Elizabeth Holmes Breaks Her Silence In First Interview From Prison (people.com) 81
Convicted Theranos founder, Elizabeth Holmes, had her first interview since being reported to prison in 2023, telling People magazine that she is still working on "research and inventions" in the healthcare space. Here's an excerpt from the article: Scheduled for release on April 3, 2032, Holmes says she hopes to travel with her family and to fight for reform of criminal justice system. She recently drafted an American Freedom Act bill -- a seven-page handwritten document -- to bolster the presumption of innocence and change criminal procedure. "This will be my life's work," says Holmes, adding that she is speaking out now as part of her mission to advocate on behalf of incarcerated persons and those ripped away from their children.
And, despite her global reputation as a biotech con artist who put lives at risk, she says she's continuing to write patents for new inventions and plans to resume her career in healthcare technology after her release. "There is not a day I have not continued to work on my research and inventions," she says. "I remain completely committed to my dream of making affordable healthcare solutions available to everyone."
For now, however, she is sustained by weekend visits from her family, when she can cuddle Invicta, watch William gather acorns in the prison yard and hold Evans's hand and briefly hug and kiss. (Conjugal visits are not allowed.) "It kills me to put my family through pain the way I do," she says. "But when I look back on my life, and these angels that have come into it, I can get through anything. It makes me want to fight for all of it."
And, despite her global reputation as a biotech con artist who put lives at risk, she says she's continuing to write patents for new inventions and plans to resume her career in healthcare technology after her release. "There is not a day I have not continued to work on my research and inventions," she says. "I remain completely committed to my dream of making affordable healthcare solutions available to everyone."
For now, however, she is sustained by weekend visits from her family, when she can cuddle Invicta, watch William gather acorns in the prison yard and hold Evans's hand and briefly hug and kiss. (Conjugal visits are not allowed.) "It kills me to put my family through pain the way I do," she says. "But when I look back on my life, and these angels that have come into it, I can get through anything. It makes me want to fight for all of it."
"continued to work on my research and inventions" (Score:1)
Re: "continued to work on my research and inventio (Score:5, Insightful)
All the 'I'm the victim here' attitude from her is too much. Even the phrase "since being reported to prison" fits that narrative. You were thrown in jail for defrauding people, risking lives, and quite possibly leading to death or poorer health outcomes by anyone unfortunate enough to rely on your 'tests' for their decisions.
Clearly she has not learned her lesson, and there should be no opportunity for early release until she does.
Re: "continued to work on my research and inventio (Score:4, Insightful)
But she IS a victim. The poor lass is being ripped away from her children. Children she decided to conceive during her fraud trial. Now what kind of a person would choose to have children under those circumstances? A victim!
She's just another victim of an Elizabeth Holmes fraud attempt.
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Women are clearly insane.
This woman is clearly insane.
Both are correct.
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Humans are clearly insane. No need to be a fucking piece of shit misogynist asshat.
You proved your point. But in other news, my post was about grammar, not people.
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Now he is out and has a gene editing pharma company [npr.org].
It creates an interesting conundrum; these people are serving their time, but when they get out they go back to waht they're doing because they're passionate and cut corners, but should we be banning them from doing this?
Ah, the old 'double down' (Score:4, Insightful)
It's best, though, to STFU until after you've met with a parole board and been released. Maybe until your sentence is up and they can't get you for parole violation and have to start up a whole new legal process from scratch.
Even better, would be to actually reform.
Re:Ah, the old 'double down' (Score:5, Informative)
There is no parole in the Federal prison system for anyone sentenced after November 1987 so there is no way for her to violate parole.
Re:Ah, the old 'double down' (Score:4, Insightful)
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If she is at all smart, she'll know what to say to get attention from the manbaby.
I can't tolerate to listen to another con artist... or I'd go evaluate her PR statement (I wonder if she had it workshopped? or did they actually get all her money? )
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She has some name recognition - she'll probably be pardoned
By whom? Her biggest crime was defrauding rich investors. It's not like she killed people, sold drugs, or attempted to overthrow the capital. She's done things to *important people*.
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She has some name recognition - she'll probably be pardoned
By whom? Her biggest crime was defrauding rich investors. It's not like she killed people, sold drugs, or attempted to overthrow the capital. She's done things to *important people*.
All she has to do is get Elon Musk to feel sorry for her, or maybe just get the hots for her, he'll talk to his Buddy In Chief and it will be a done deal with The Donald telling us about how unfair the Biden administration was to go after her for political reasons and how she's the real victim here.
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More realistically, she has to find a way to grease Trump's palm and it'll happen. A Mar-a-Lago membership or book a whole floor of a Trump hotel for a while. Whatever the threshold is for buying a pardon.
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Every so often, I learn a new fact that gives a little bit more colour to the fact that the US justice system is wildly unjust compared to any other western country. Especially as this fact led me to the First Step Act.
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Well lets add some relevant facts.
You can still get out early / have your sentence reduced for good behavior - which amounts to an unconditional parole.
So it isn't widly unjust at all. It is in reality far more just than most systems that include parole. Unless you consider justice to be about retribution and not reform.
Good behavior means reforms have succeeded and there is no value to society in further imprisoning the convict. So we actual restore their freedom rather than letting them out with a bunch
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Ah facts. Tricky, aren’t they? Let’s have a little look.
You said that the First Steps Act early release scheme “amounts to an unconditional parole” and that “We actually restore their freedom rather than letting them out with a bunch of conditions and a nanny”. Except that the early release involves exactly what you say it doesn’t: you’re only let out with “a bunch of conditions and a nanny”. Early release inmates serve the remaining portion of the
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I have an alternative solution to crowded prisons, unfair justice system, early parole release plans, and so,on.
Anyone who doesn't want to deal with the justice system should stop committing crimes. It isn't fool,proof but works in most cases.
I know it's a weird idea but let's give it a shot and see how it goes.
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That's no way to get a pardon from the felon-in-chief.
Leon spawn (Score:3)
Before any fanbois get woodies, remember he offered a horse to a flight attendant for a rub 'n tug.
An idea is not a patentable invention (Score:4, Informative)
A lot of people seem to conflate the two. Ideas are a dime a dozen as they say. Coming up with something workable is a lot more than just an idea.
Re:An idea is not a patentable invention (Score:4)
Yes, but the patent office has done all it can to muddle the line. Patents used to require a working model or prototype. These days, you can just sit down, write up some shit, and get a patent for it.
Aside from software patents, there's a number of technical patents that violate the laws of physics and/or describe purely theoretical machines.
So sadly, an idea written up in the correct application form with the right words the inspectors want to see is very likely to result in a patent.
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Let's assume you[re right that the patent office allows patents on impossible devices.
So what?
Other than a minor waste of administrative effort, what real world harm does that cause? Those fools are paying thousands of dollars to get a patent on a thing that literally can not exist. So what? More power to em. They now have the legal backing the United States federal government patent office to exclude other people from building impossible to create devices for a period of 20 years.
What do you think a p
Re: An idea is not a patentable invention (Score:2)
Well 1 it wastes court time and resources and 2 the courts tend to defer to the patent office so it is a poor check on bad patents.
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Actually an idea very much is patentable. There is a long history of patents filed and issued for things that flat out don't work. Remember something is considered patentable when the patent office grants the patent. The fact that the patent office is too staffed full of clueless people to identify obviously unworkable inventions is the reason these things are patentable. An idea alone is not patentable only in a legal context. But that context requires smart people to review something, and often challenge
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Try something different (Score:3)
telling People magazine that she is still working on "research and inventions" in the healthcare space.
If you're in the financial industry or healthcare, you need to be extra careful as a startup because you actually have to follow the law.
She should switch to a normal internet startup, where it's ok to lie and you won't get arrested even if your code has bad bugs.
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Isn't it crazy now that CVS has the ability to diagnose certain conditions with a simple blood test? Also found was that a simple blood test can predetect certain specific cancers. Crazy how crazy Elizabeth Holmes was making these same crazy statements. Ofc what she did was what everyone in tech does, fake it until you make it.. that doesn't really play well in Biotech, but it's hard to ignore the impact she actually did to make preventative care just a bit simpler.
Also how is she getting interviewed in p
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Isn't it crazy now that CVS has the ability to diagnose certain conditions with a simple blood test?
CVS did that before Holmes.
Ofc what she did was what everyone in tech does, fake it until you make it.. that doesn't really play well in Biotech
If you decide to do that, don't do biotech, and don't do banking.
Also how is she getting interviewed in prison?
Most people can be interviewed.
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don't do biotech
ignored the little bit about blood tests detecting cancers eh?
here is an FDA approved company [shieldcancerscreen.com] that offers detection by blood test. started in 2022 after Elizabeth Holmes' crazy claims. Not so crazy was it? She harmed people, lets not forget this. I am going to drill in everyones head that she hurt people by releasing fake tests. But hard to ignore the fact that technology exists immediately after she was sent to jail. Things that make you go hmmmm.
most people can be interviewed
My guy, have you been to prison? An "interview" with my co
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Your first post makes it look like you are crediting Holmes with advancing Healthcare technology though. It also doesn't emphasize that she hurt people well.
I disagree that she helped make healthcare simpler, she actually slowed development by diverting money to her fraud and making people have to be just a bit more wary of fraud.
The tests for things like cancer were already in the works.
Holmes promise was more being able to do a couple dozen tests using a single drop of blood.
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So? Are you suggesting that Elizabeth Holmes invented blood tests? Or just blood tests for cancer?
Holmes made specific claims involving testing for a large number of things with a very small amount of blood quickly and accurately in a small on-site device. It didn't work, and she's in jail for lying and otherwise covering up that specific fact.
The specific colon cancer test you linked to is based on detection of tumor dna in the cell free blood fraction. The first serious papers on that technique date at le
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Also how is she getting interviewed in prison?
The same way this story made it to slashdot. They figured there was a high chance that people would read it. It's junkfood for the brain. The western societies LOVE the shit.
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I'm really tired of the "fake it til you make it" defense of her and her supporters. There's a difference between failing to deliver on a promise of the future and lying about your current progress. Most people would agree that failing to deliver for investors should not be a crime as it would disincentivize startups since failure to meet your goals could get you a prison sentence. However, most people would also agree that lying
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Her only real mistake (Score:2, Informative)
She really made a fool of the guy that runs Walgreens. He went all in on her nonsense even though it was obvious nonsense.
The Real danger with scam artists like her is that they show us that the people at the top are just as incompetent as we are and just as easily fooled. If we ever figure that out we're going to start questioning why they get all the
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So you knew back then she was a scammer?
Really?
Okey dokey.
Lobbying for a pardon (Score:1, Insightful)
"Hey Donald, I'm a big enough fraud to join your team!" - Elizabeth Holmes
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Yeah but Trump stole from common folk. Holmes stole from rich people. There's a difference.
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I'm surprised Holmes and SBF haven't been pardoned yet.
They must have not put a safety pot away to buy their pardons.
Big Lunatic Energy (Score:3)
Re:Big Lunatic Energy (Score:5, Funny)
Am I the only one turned on by her level of crazy? No way that does not transfer to the bedroom.
The sex is awesome, but getting stabbed at 3 in the morning kinda messes with your day.
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Typical /. sexism. (Score:4, Funny)
That's so sexist.
Reducing a privileged blonde psychopath to the mind blowing mentally ill sex we all know she hasn't had in ages.... penned up with all those other women in that poorly heated prison. It must be hell for her, who knows what she might do to find comfort and attention behind those oppressive steel bars.
Re: Typical /. sexism. (Score:2)
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Tara Reade has entered the building.
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Orange is the new black.
Sure... (Score:4, Funny)
"those ripped away from their children."
Don't commit felony fraud and you won't be.
What a dumb b*tch!
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"those ripped away from their children."
Don't commit felony fraud and you won't be.
What a dumb b*tch!
I would have gone with "don't conceive children while being on trial for felony fraud".
But calling her a dumb bitch is a bit much. She's a victim. ... A victim of a Elizabeth Holmes fraud scheme, in this case a scheme to avoid prison.
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"those ripped away from their children."
Don't commit felony fraud and you won't be.
What a dumb b*tch!
Remember the times. The narrative around Holmes was that she was "The first female self made billionaire". So there were people lined up to get in on all the hoopla. Her Board of directors was more like a Democrat political appointment group that knowledgable people guiding a tech heavy company. Only person on it that had any relationship with biotech was a former head of the CDC - but still an appointee.
She altered her voice, tried to emulate Steve Jobs.
It was easy to see how the checkbox people reac
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Her Board of directors was more like a Democrat political appointment group that knowledgable people guiding a tech heavy company.
This is totally disingenuous. There was a mix of Democrats and Republicans on the board along with a lot of CEOs who lean heavily conservative (even though they sometimes go along with performative progressive stuff if they think that is the way the wind is blowing).
Henry Kissinger, William Perry, Bill Frist, James Mattis, and Gary Roughhead? That's a Democrat political appointment group to you?
Some of her biggest investors were Rupert Murdoch, Betty De Vos, and Larry Ellison.
This was corruption and fraud.
How can we miss you... (Score:4, Insightful)
so much breaking (Score:2)
A good rule of thumb is to ignore anything posted with emotion baiting, drama-manufacturing headlines.
I'm sure she had a principled stance she was mum as a monk, and something big and important changed for her to finally break that silence.
Maybe soon she'll "clap back" about something.
I can hate the game also. (Score:5, Insightful)
Yes, self-preservation, her life's work. (Score:2)
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Because the Board represents the investors. These are money guys. They know as much about the science as the typical dog walker.
They're actually victims here as they put in zillions of dollars and it went to zero.
She will be pardoned (Score:2)
I am sure she is gathering the money needed to get a pardon from Trump.
My spies tell me it is a sliding scale, but for someone of her stature the bidding starts at 10million usd.
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She should ask Hunter how much a pardon costs.
"Working on research and inventions" (Score:2)
If she really wants to work on "research and inventions", there's an established pathway for doing that. She could finish her college degree, apply for a PhD program, and spend several years working long hours under the tutelage of experienced scientists. Then, *maybe*, if she's smart and hard-working, she'll come up with some useful "research and inventions".
Nothing stopping her from doing any of that; PhD programs aren't that hard to get into, and more than half of the candidates (in the medical researc
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You don't need to do all that stuff, although it's not a bad idea. Plenty of people with little education invent stuff in their garage in their spare time. What you need to do is not lie about how well it works.
Holmes' story is well known. She was an undergrad, thought she had a wonderful world changing idea and, despite being told by her professors that it wouldn't work took the risk to drop out and work on it. There's nothing wrong with any of that, although it is pretty risky. But then, when it didn't wo
Treat her like just another perp (Score:2)
Maybe we shouldn't give unrepentant celebrity criminals attention and publicity.
Scam Scam Scam (Score:1)
That's pretty much all she knows. She dropped out of college to start her big scam. I don't think her patents will be worth much. But hey, it's good to have hobbies. In prison.
In other news (Score:1)
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The hot ones were very publicly crazy af. The secret psychos were shit because you thought you were getting quality and instead had to wrestle the knife away from them.
No one believes the public psycho when she starts screaming crazy shit about you. The secret psychos can ruin your life because she's such a nice girl, what did you do to her you evil bastard?
Hmmm (Score:2)
Has she stopped using... (Score:2)
Summary: she's a victim, didna do nuffin wrong! (Score:1)
Boo hoo, she lied and stole and got caught and convicted so she's a victim.
She also fucked over countless people along the way. But, she's the victim.
Remember, we need legal and prison reform because she's the victim.
Which Voice (Score:1)
Dear Parole Board: (Score:2)
Please note the complete lack of contrition.
Such a double standard (Score:2)
It's all about (Score:2)
It all seems to be about her. Poor little thing. Reform is a word not in this woman's vocabulary. If she does somehow enter the health care system again expect fraud and deceit, which I suppose is par for the industry in the first place sadly.