Scene Bust Triggered Historic Drop In 'Pirate' Releases (torrentfreak.com) 85
An anonymous reader quotes a report from TorrentFreak: Every day, millions of people download or stream pirated content including movies, TV-shows, games, MP3s, and books. Many of these files originate from a small and tightly organized 'community' commonly known as The Scene, which is made up of dozens of smaller 'release groups.' These groups tend to operate in the shadows with little or no public profile. At least, that's what the unwritten rules dictate. That's for good reason as the people involved risk high prison sentences when caught. It's very rare for Scene group members to get busted but last week the US Government claimed a major victory. With help from international law enforcement partners, several raids and arrests were carried out, with the SPARKS group at the center of it all.
As soon as the first rumors about the raids started spreading on Tuesday, the number of Scene releases started to drop. A day later, when confirmation came in, it became even quieter. With data provided by Predb.org we take a closer look at these dropoffs, showing that some categories are affected more than others. Before delving into detailed groups, it's worth pointing out the overall impact, which can be summarized in two numbers. On Wednesday, August 19, there were 1944 new releases. A week later, a day after the first raids, this number was down to 168 releases. The drop in new releases happened across all categories.
As soon as the first rumors about the raids started spreading on Tuesday, the number of Scene releases started to drop. A day later, when confirmation came in, it became even quieter. With data provided by Predb.org we take a closer look at these dropoffs, showing that some categories are affected more than others. Before delving into detailed groups, it's worth pointing out the overall impact, which can be summarized in two numbers. On Wednesday, August 19, there were 1944 new releases. A week later, a day after the first raids, this number was down to 168 releases. The drop in new releases happened across all categories.
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user@host movies]$ l | grep -i sparks
drwxr-xr-x. 2 user user 4.0K 2015-06-28 17:50 A.Most.Wanted.Man.2014.720p.BluRay.x264-SPARKS
drwxrwxr-x. 2 user user 4.0K 2017-02-18 20:53 Arrival.2016.1080p.BluRay.x264-SPARKS
drwxr-xr-x. 2 user user 4.0K 2013-02-13 01:11 Atlas.Shrugged.2.2012.BDRip.XviD-SPARKS
drwxr-xr-x. 2 user user 4.0K 2012-08-04 04:23 Battleship.2012.PROPER.720p.BluRay.x264-SPARKS
drwxr-xr-x. 2 user user 4.0K 2015-06-28 17:58 Birdman.2014.720p.BluRay.x264-SPARKS
drwxrwxr-x. 2 user
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They've been around for a long time but I don't think they've really mattered to the extent the feds are pretending. I honestly forgot about them and I'm pretty sure the last time I downloaded one of their releases was in like 2010. And even then it always seemed like a loose affiliation of people looking for a common brand rather than a full-fledged scene group. Individual members would always tag the releases with SPARKS and then their own handle. Seemed just a way for individuals to get into the pre
Re:Never Heard Of SPARKS (Score:5, Insightful)
So I will just assume members of the 'old' or 'real' scene just offered these guys up for not 'scene'ing properly and protecting the real scene.
I am also sure there are less movies being released as well as other media since the pandemic and this is just some of the results.
Fake news..
One: just because you haven't heard of a team doesn't mean they didn't exist. They did.
Two: assuming the multiple teams indicted are just patsies is just... random. There's no actual evidence that's the case, and plenty against it... if you read the stories about this.
Three: blaming this in any significant way on COVID-19 is ignore the summary itself. There was a 90% drop in one week. The pandemic had been in effect for nearly six months. Why was week 25 somehow so dramatically special?
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So I will just assume members of the 'old' or 'real' scene just offered these guys up for not 'scene'ing properly and protecting the real scene.
This has to be the dumbest no true Scotsman fallacy combined with senseless conspiracy garbage I've ever heard.
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Awwww, things better now (Score:3, Informative)
those poor entertainment cartel millionaires weren't getting all their shekels.
Re:Awwww, things better now (Score:5, Interesting)
those poor entertainment cartel millionaires weren't getting all their shekels.
And the number of additional shekels they will be getting for the next few weeks will be indistinguishable from seasonal or even random fluctuations. There's essentially no money being freed up by the lack of availability of the unauthorized versions because nobody was paying for them. So economically/financially, nothing changes. For more obscure works, a.k.a. not blockbuster movies, long term aggregate revenues will go down some small amount, for lack of exposure.
Re: Awwww, things better now (Score:4, Insightful)
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This is it, exactly. The copyright-holding industry has always, always been about control.
Re:Its dumb to pirate today (Score:4, Insightful)
But, dang guys, times have changes. Today, you can have access to an ultra high quality stream basically every media product ever produced in the last century on-demand for less than you were paying for a basic cable subscription in 2000. .
I don't know what alternate universe you are living in, but here in the real world none of what you said is true. Not even close.
I want media that I can own and control. I would gladly pay a fair price for a movie, 1080p resolution or higher, high quality (not some shitty low bitrate stream), that I can download to my hard drive and watch whenever I want. But such an animal does not exist, legally.
I am not defending piracy, but the RIAA/MPAA Mafia steadfastly refuses to give consumers what they want-- good product at a fair price -- and then they complain when people obtain it through other means.
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Do you think you have the right to watch a movie? Somebody has to make and show you a movie at a price you think it should be at, or free? You believe in slavery? You don't have the right to watch a movie someone makes unless you pay the price they want. DO I have the right to make you do things for me, for free? Why don't YOU make me a movie then? I demand it.
Re: Its dumb to pirate today (Score:1)
Do you think you have the right to watch a movie?
I think I have the right to do whatever I want as long as I'm not hurting anyone. I've yet to see someone demonstrate how me watching a movie is hurting anyone. If you can somehow show that me watching movies is harming people, then yeah, I'll agree that I do not have a right to watch movies.
Somebody has to make and show you a movie at a price you think it should be at, or free?
They don't have to do anything. They choose to make movies. They choose what prices to sell them at. And I choose whether or not to accept their offer.
You believe in slavery?
Well, yes, slavery exists. Not believing in it would be pretty
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Re:Its dumb to pirate today (Score:4, Insightful)
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I pay for 3 streaming services and I STILL have to pirate some shit. This is just like any other problem. 10% effort (the cost of streaming services to me) gets you 80-90% of the way there. 90% effort is needed to get that last 10-20%.
I left cable because there was nothing I wanted to watch on there. Subscribing to three on-demand services, there's still stuff that's completely missing. Some of this shit is even hard to pirate because demand for it is very, very low.
Re:Its dumb to pirate today (Score:4, Insightful)
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I get it - you have a thing for rare movies. I don't know if TCM is still around, but if you could buy their service ala carte, that would be better than pirating.
Why would I pirate movies, of all things? Why would I download a movie I'm likely going to watch at most once? Streaming services mean that I don't need to maintain and backup the entire selection of movies that i might want to watch on a random weekend.
Now that streaming has gone mainstream, it's just easier to find a movie on the service
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OK
I have a copy of the following movie, and have watched it.
Go ahead - tell me where I can stream it.
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0... [imdb.com]
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I don't get it. Is this supposed to be a trick question? You don't even need to look past Youtube for that video since you don't need to get illegal to watch something made in 1919 (although the soundtrack of silent films can pose problems as they are be more recent).
There is a version with low picture quality and piano soundtrack [youtube.com] or one with better picture and original synth music score by Ray Lowe [youtube.com] that was made for a Friends of Hart Park fundraising screening.
If you are into old films, you can get lost fo
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Re:Its dumb to pirate today (Score:4, Insightful)
Not everyone can throw money around every day, especially signing up to a service so that you can watch the 1 or 2 shows / movies that you are interested in. Yes you can subscribe, watch what you wanted to and then quit, but it's a PITA, and then you forget for 3 months and eventually remember to cancel etc.
BUT one of the big reasons that piracy is so popular is that outside of the USA the selection of movies on all these lovely streaming services is SEVERELY restricted. Yes you can use VPN's to get around this restriction, but that's just another cost. I've given up all my subscriptions and gone back to pirating everything. When 90% of what I wanted to watch was on one streaming service I didn't mind paying for the added convenience. But there was still the odd buffering issue, or the video just stopping for no reason and a refresh required etc. that it was mildly annoying. Then corporate greed kicked in and the subscriptions required to watch 90% of what I wanted to watch ballooned. As for waiting for a download, I live in a country with bad internet and downloading a blue ray movie takes ~10 minutes. Time to make the popcorn. As for quality, if you know where to go there is nothing wrong with the quality, besides the movies with *coughs* in background are usually from movies that have been released in cinema's but are not available on ANY streaming service yet, so without pirating you wouldn't be able to watch it AT ALL! There are also certain movies / series that you just cannot find legally, for whatever reason (licensing or whatever) they are not available on any legal streaming service.
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As you said, given how cheap disk space is these days one could build a private library that doesn't contain any bad movies at all, and entire runs of tv shows no longer aired anywhere. I tend to watch foreign stuff that isn't even advertised in NA, and may be region-locked at any rate. Library maintenance is easy, most software I've tried keeps up pretty well. I settled on minidlna on a raspi. Not very feature-rich but rock solid for myself. Most of what I download doesn't end up
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You would have to subscribe to every streaming service in the world to get access to everything. Even if you were just interested in major Hollywood and USA TV releases you would be looking at hundreds a month.
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Re: Its dumb to pirate today (Score:3)
Re:Its dumb to pirate today (Score:4, Informative)
Not even remotely true...
The streaming services are fragmented, you end up having to subscribe to multiple services and even then often won't get access to everything you might want to see.
The services are only available in certain countries, and have different content depending what country you're in.
Some countries have no services, and are artificially restricted from accessing foreign services.
Having to stream is a problem for some, being able to download and watch later is beneficial. Some people have poor connectivity at home so they download at work or some other place, or share movies on portable media with friends. Some connections are metered, or metered at peak times (ie the time you actually want to watch)... Some connections are significantly slower at peak times.
Streaming services restrict what devices you can use, they may arbitrarily decide not to support your tv, or to drop support for it etc.
In some countries there is no legal risk.
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Re:Its dumb to pirate today (Score:4, Informative)
Give your wife a hug from all of us whose native language isn't English. I -can- watch movies and TV shows without subtitles, but it's way more relaxing to have the subs so I can just look down quickly if I missed a word or two. Watching TV without subs feels more like a chore than a relaxing way to spend the evening.
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Today, you can have access to an ultra high quality stream basically every media product ever produced in the last century on-demand for less than you were paying for a basic cable subscription in 2000.
Must be nice to live somewhere where your broadband always works properly. Bonus points if you actually have a choice of broadband providers.
Call me old fashioned, but I like my movies stored on spinning rust connected to my own local network. Don't have to worry about seeing a "buffering" animation because it's happy porno time* for the neighbors.
* I don't actually know what my neighbors do that sucks up all the bandwidth, but it's probably porn [youtube.com].
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Oops. Please excuse my poorly formatted post and its lack of paragraphs, I forgot that I'm not posting in plaintext/markdown.
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This was a decade ago:
https://theoatmeal.com/comics/... [theoatmeal.com]
Not much has changed.
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You got some kids, morons (Score:3)
Nothing has changed, nothing will ever change.
Re:You got some kids, morons (Score:5, Insightful)
Nothing has changed, nothing will ever change.
Complacency is not a good attitude for this. Every year electronic surveillance gets more intrusive and privacy becomes more difficult. In 20 years I can't see wide-scale piracy being possible, just like I don't see casual speeding in cars being possible. Cars will require always-on wireless nannies and your GPS will rat you out, just like your mandatory OS telemetry will. Sure, you can roll your own Linux box today, but it will be harder and harder as time goes by, until it's impractical.
I'm not advocating piracy per se, but saying that the assumption it's always going to be available as it is today is likely incorrect.
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Nah, it'll just go back to being harder. Did you try pirating anything in the early 90s? Stuff launched on German war3z BBSes and crap like that?
People got spoiled by easy warez. Government stooges jumped at the command of their masters and finally figured out how to start cracking down. What's funny is that the studios probably won't make any extra money from knocking out SPARKS.
My guess is you'll have to be pretty 'elite' in the future to even pirate anything, much less contribute to the scene.
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Some of these guys were in their 50s. They have been doing this stuff since the 80s, cracking copy protection on games that came on audio cassette.
The piracy scene will recover in a few months. It will be interesting to see what they charge these people with since in many countries copyright infringement is only a civil matter unless it's done commercially, and they were giving the stuff away for free without even any ad revenue.
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Pretty sure this is satire but these days who knows.
Re:Anything that reduces movie industry mindshare (Score:4, Insightful)
I'm hoping for a different outcome: for Hollywood to finally accept that most people prefer watching movies in the comfort of their homes. If it's not on Netflix or Amazon Prime, then I'll check the 99 cents rentals on iTunes. If it's not in these three options, I'll wait. No way I'm paying more than that to watch a movie, I have plenty of other options to entertain myself for less.
If you're asking me to spend five or ten dollars to rent a movie, you're forgetting that it's enough to purchase at least one PC game that will keep me busy for far more than the length of your movie.
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If you're asking me to spend five or ten dollars to rent a movie, you're forgetting that it's enough to purchase at least one PC game that will keep me busy for far more than the length of your movie.
And it will likely be a DRM-free release from GOG, too, so you actually do own it, and will be able to squirrel away the installer on your NAS, to pull out and have your kids play in a decade or two.
As opposed to buying the Blu-Ray version for up to three times that, only to have it not be playable in a few years when some vendor's server goes offline. Yeah, I'm not seeing the value proposition here either.
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It's more the theatre chains doing this...
They are relying on being the only place to watch movies for several months, rather than providing a compelling experience that people would choose even if other options are available.
Food/drinks are overpriced, poor quality and poor selection.
Cinemas are often dirty or smelly.
Unless you get lucky, you won't be sitting at an optimal viewing angle or optimal location for the sound system.
Cannot pause the movie to use the toilet or get more food/drinks etc.
Other custo
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Not to mention the trouble of getting ready, driving there, watching the movie in sub-optimal conditions*, rushing to get out so you get drive out of there before the parking gridlock due to everyone leaving at the same exact time and then finally getting home. This adds at least 30 minutes to over an hour of time needed to dedicate to the evening in addition to the length of the movie itself.
* if the directors really wanted us the appreciate their movies, they'd force us to watch it at home.
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For a similar comparison, because movie directors seem to be stupid these days: where would you rather read a book: at home where it is quiet, or in a subway full of people that keeps talking and moving. Why would watching movies be any different?
And let's add release dates on top of this idiocy. How insane would it be to release books, that can only be rented and read in subways, weeks or months before putting the books up for sale to the general public so they can read them wherever they like?
I understand
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Reading a book in a subway has a purpose - there's not much else you can do to keep your mind occupied while riding a subway. Although ideally you'd not be on the subway at all.
It's the big theatre chains getting their obsolete business models propped up by artificially staggered movie releases. Many people go to the movie theatre not because they want to, but because they have no other way to watch a given movie without waiting months.
At one point a movie theatre was the only place you could see a movie, j
Fuck you, Content Mafia criminals! (Score:2)
You are nothing but coke-loaded leeches, sucking all alert and beauty of this planet dry and dead until nothing but "i.p." remakes remain.
I hope you overdose on research chemicals and die like a dog in a gutter.
Re: Fuck you, Content Mafia criminals! (Score:1)
*all art
Wow! who knew, burn the card files (Score:2)
OK bad analogy
It is harder to find stuff on the internet without a good search engine.
Holy shitty graphing display batman (Score:4, Interesting)
This story needs to be published on the graphing hall of shame. It's very rare to find a graph that isn't some fancy new marketing nonsense, actually has axis labelled correctly, displays data correctly, and yet somehow still makes people wish the creator just dumped raw numbers on the screen.
Re: Very nice. (Score:1, Troll)
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Rand Paul has been assaulted several times over the years. Maybe he should investigate why that keeps happening.
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Lack of new movies alone explains "historic drop" (Score:1)
Drop in uploads? (Score:2)
Has there been a drop in TV uploads?
Yes. But it may have nothing to do with this, this time of the year is a regular 'dead zone' in scheduled programming - no late night shows right now for example, and relatively little new programming otherwise that typically gets shared. Check again next week..
Music and Movies (Score:2)
Ignoring movies for the moment, I'm going to talk about playing music in my car. Similar principles apply to movies.
My car is a Tesla. It comes with a Spotify client. This is included in the price of the car, so it doesn't cost me anything to use it.
So I find something I feel like listening to and start playing it. ... and drive through an area with poor connectivity so it buffers. ... and get out of the car, and cannot continue to listen on my phone.
So before too long, I buy a double-ended USB stick and pi
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How do you pirate music these days?
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Did you know you can cache Netflix videos locally and explicitly, then replay them in dead zones?
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I like torrentfreak, but... (Score:1)