ZeniMax Files Injunction To Stop Oculus From Selling VR Headsets (gamespot.com) 77
ZeniMax, the parent company of Fallout and Skyrim developer Bethesda, has filed for an injunction against virtual-reality company Oculus over the recent stolen technology case. The company had accused Oculus of stealing VR-related code, and was subsequently awarded $500 million by a Dallas court earlier this month. ZeniMax has now filed additional papers against Oculus, requesting that Oculus' products using the stolen code be removed from sale. GameSpot reports: Specifically, ZeniMax is seeking to block sales of its mobile and PC developer kits, as well as technology allowing the integration of Oculus Rift with development engines Unreal and Unity, reports Law360. If the injunction isn't granted, ZeniMax wants a share of "revenues derived from products incorporating its intellectual properties," suggesting a 20 percent cut for at least 10 years. ZeniMax argues the previous settlement of $500 million is "insufficient incentive for [Oculus] to cease infringing." Oculus, meanwhile, says that "ZeniMax's motion does not change the fact that the [original] verdict was legally flawed and factually unwarranted. We look forward to filing our own motion to set aside the jury's verdict and, if necessary, filing an appeal that will allow us to put this litigation behind us," the virtual reality company stated.
Don't support Bethseda or id (Score:5, Interesting)
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Right, which is why I won't buy anything from Oculus given Palmer Luckey (their illustrious founder) bankrolling a pro-Trump shitposting group during the election cycle. https://arstechnica.co.uk/tech... [arstechnica.co.uk]
"The stream of racist, sexist, and economically illiterate memes appearing in support of Donald Trump during this years' interminable American presidential election is being bankrolled in part by the 24-year-old inventor of Oculus Rift."
Oculus and Luckey can go fuck themselves.
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Right, which is why I won't buy anything from Oculus given Palmer Luckey (their illustrious founder) bankrolling a pro-Trump shitposting group during the election cycle.
Do you litmus test every product you buy to make sure its execs agree with your political views before you buy from them? Because I don't. But, then again, I'm not some 3-year-old child throwing a temper tantrum because his candidate lost.
Re:Don't support Bethseda or id (Score:4, Insightful)
Alt-righters crying about citizens exercising their free market rights? It's political correctness gone mad, but you're hardly the first alt-right snowflake who flips out when people refuse to give Drumpf and his merry band of white supremacists any money.
Thank god the free market allows us to avoid buying products sold by racists, neo-Nazis, fundie Christians/Islamists and any other deplorables, eh?
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If you're fighting against a cartoon frog, you've already lost. Just a FYI. Meme magic is superior anyway.
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He didn't say he was an alt-righter. I don't see anywhere you can infer it from either.
Writing "political correctness" and "snowflake" as a stab back to the right is too obvious - I don't know why people keep trying it. On top of that, you're not using either term correctly (since it has nothing to do with political correctness and you have no evidence of him being a snowflake).
Can you answer his question? Do you litmus test every product? I get the feeling you don't. As others have pointed out, you probabl
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Right, which is why I won't buy anything from Oculus given Palmer Luckey (their illustrious founder) bankrolling a pro-Trump shitposting group during the election cycle. https://arstechnica.co.uk/tech [arstechnica.co.uk]...
Palmer is a libertarian who didn't even vote for Trump.
"The stream of racist, sexist, and economically illiterate memes appearing in support of Donald Trump during this years' interminable American presidential election is being bankrolled in part by the 24-year-old inventor of Oculus Rift."
Exactly I couldn't have said it better myself. Talking shit about Obummer makes you racist. Talking Shit about Shillary makes you sexist. Talking shit about Netinyahooooo makes you anti-Semitic and voting for Donald Drumpf means you heart Hitler.
The only one I'm confused about is Billy boy C... when people bring up his murders and rapes and shit. What are they? Billy is white, male and not Jewish. Totally stumped.
Oculus and Luckey can go fuck themselves.
Absolutely. Fuck Palmer for sellin
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Are you suffering from Trump Acceptance Resistance Disorder?
Will the protesters eventually come to accept reality? Not just the reality of President Trump (HE WON) but the reality that you can't hold a job and be a full time protester at the same time (unless George Soros hooks you up with that sweet daily protest payout cheese that is.)
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That's actually complete bullshit which mainstream left media pushed and hammered around as usual.
I've done some reading into this and there's several leaps to conclusions made as part of this story.
Firstly, we don't know that Palmer had any knowledge of the activities of this group other than "meme magic" and general internet trollery and sillyness, a far far fucking cry from genuine Nazi / racist posts that the group is accused of.
Secondly, upon doing some reading, I can't find any evidence that this grou
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I like what they're doing a lot. Fuck Palmer Lucky and fuck Oculus.
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Be careful when you sign employment contracts. Some stipulate that as long as you are employed your creations belong to the company.
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How can Oculus know which code to remove? (Score:4, Interesting)
Carmack posted something pretty long saying he was not only extremely disappointed in Zenimax's expert witness, but was essentially barred from seeing the evidence he used. How can you remove stolen code if you don't know what to remove?
While it appears that Zenimax is going for the jugular here, it is almost certainly a negotiating tactic to get a large stake in Oculus. They're not interested in VR, but it would be a safe way for them to keep a foot planted in the market should it become big enough.
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right after receiving the lawsuit notice, Carmack used google search on how to wipe his hard drive and then did so on a bunch of computers and usb drives.
Got a source for that?
Re: How can Oculus know which code to remove? (Score:3)
Re: How can Oculus know which code to remove? (Score:4, Informative)
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But what does this really mean. (Score:1)
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which is exactly what anybody with extensive hentai pr0n collection would do /a friend told me, yes
Sensible legal move. (Score:5, Interesting)
Regardless of how I feel about each of the parties, in the long run I believe that Facebook/Occulus have the resources to drag this case for years by which point either VR will be dead or the lawyer's fees will outweigh any potential wins either party would make. Zenimax should know this, so filing for an injunction is really a sensible legal move here.
On one hand this will allow Zenimax to effectively re-argue the IP portion section of their case to a Judge instead of to a Jury, especially since it was determined that there was an NDA breach and misappropriation of source code. There is a chance (albeit a very slim one), that this could even go in their favour.
But, on the other hand (and what I believe this is really about), is Zenimax showing Occulus that they won't back down in the face of Occulus's public claims to appeal the original case. This is about forcing Occulus to negotiate a settlement and bring and end the case now.
Of course it could be that Zenimax want to win this case at all costs, in which their chances if getting a quick and easy win are slim-to-none.
Holding Back Progress (Score:2)
Re:Holding Back Progress (Score:4, Informative)
What Oculus is doing is not the entirety of VR. HTC Vive is far superior technologically and in the overall user experience.
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No, that was figured out by companies which had worked with VR/3D headsets LONG ago. Guess you never played a mech battle game in the arcade where you had to pull down a helmet over your head (and hold onto the control sticks attached to it) back in the 90s.
High-res dual LCD screens, high refresh rate. Too bad the game itself was low resolution.
This shit isn't new, at all.
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It's nice to have competition in the marketplace; I don't think things would be nearly as good with just HTC or Oculus.
However the Rift and Vive are not perfect substitutes. The Vive Lighthouse system is fantastic for room-scale, but (relatively speaking) a pain in the ass to install if all you want to do is sit in a chair. And the lenses HTC uses induce a lot of chromatic aberration, which really does a number on text. So having either the Rift or the Vive pulled off the market would be a notable loss.
Re:Holding Back Progress (Score:4, Informative)
The Vive is not "far superior". In fact most testers seem to prefer the Oculus headset. The Vive wins because of its room-scale tracking and better controllers. It means the ideal system would be a mix of the two.
The point is that they should work together. The technological challenges of VR are too great to waste resources fighting each other. If they overdo it they may kill off VR for everyone.
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AMD should stop making processors. The more they fight Intel, the more resources are wasted by both companies that could be spent on making better processors.
A little bit of a bad analogy, but I'm glad there's competition. I'd hate to only have once choice and have that choice be a monopoly.
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All I really need for VR (Score:1)
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Unfortunately a phone doesn't really have the power for high end gaming and currently lacks the ability to do positional tracking. This pretty much leaves you with 360 degree video which is really the worst aspect of VR right now.
If we can get positional tracking and the ability to stream from a PC source (ie Riftcat’s VRidge) then mobile VR has a fighting chance.
Robert Altman is a cunt (Score:3)
Zenimax games are so bad they are not even worth pirating. Robert Altman is a cunt. Once he took over the company from Chris Weaver it all went to shit. Arena and Daggerfall were good games, but the rest were just a race to the bottom LCD-fest whose only purpose was to make money.
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I expect I should not feed the troll. However, Daggerfall was never a good game. Its largely computer-generated dungeons were insanely repetitive, and the game exploded every time you sneezed. You'd probably die trying to take the elevators, you'd fall through the world in any number of ways, and you'd get arrested by magical police for taking a nap in an entirely empty building... although there was a way to pass loot through the dungeon wall to your horse.
Morrowind, Oblivion, and Skyrim have various issue
Violent Buyout Incoming (Score:2)
What might happen, sometime soon: Zuckerberg buys ZeniMax, then proceeds to fire them all and liquidate their assets. It's kinda like taking your cash from your left pocket, to the right pocket, except you eliminated your enemy in the process.
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Facebook would need to work out a deal with Mehrunes Dagon before being able to sue Zenimax into Oblivion.
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