Kim Jong-Un Bans All Weddings, Funerals And Freedom Of Movement In North Korea (independent.co.uk) 204
An anonymous reader quotes a report from The Independent: Weddings and funerals have been banned and Pyongyang is in lockdown as preparations for a once-in-a-generation party congress get underway in North Korea. The ruling Worker's Party of Korea, headed by the country's leader, Kim Jong-un, is due to stage the first gathering of its kind for 36 years on Friday. Free movement in and out of the capital has also been forbidden and there has been an increase in inspections and property searches, according to Daily NK, which claims to have sources in the country. The temporary measures are said to be an attempt to minimize the risk of "mishaps" at the event, according to Cheong Joon-hee, a spokesman at South Korea's Unification Ministry. Meanwhile, North Korea has been conducting missile tests left and right, many of which have failed miserably.
Great opportunity (Score:5, Interesting)
Let's nuke them while their entire leadership is all in one place.
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Re:Great opportunity (Score:5, Funny)
It's going to be a great mushroom cloud. We've had mushroom clouds in the past and they were great and we're going to have them again. And..And..they are going to pay for the mushroom cloud. It's going to be a huge mushroom cloud and America is going to be great again.
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Well if you have nothing to hide... (Score:2)
I guess you shouldn't mind being searched. You know, for Security!
Naturally, the headline is misleading. (Score:5, Interesting)
Not news for nerds, stuff that really doesn't matter outside North Korea. By the way, this is only for a week, during the North Korean Party Congress. Move along, nothing to see other than a bunch of North Korean nut bars.
Actually, here's an interesting story: The North Koreans have restaurants and other businesses in China and other "friendly" countries, primarily to generate cash for Un's emmenthaler cheese addiction (look it up), and increasingly, the staff of these businesses are defecting.
Re:Naturally, the headline is misleading. (Score:4, Insightful)
"I don't believe in facts." -- Colbert
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I don't "believe" in facts. -- Stephen Colbert
FTFY
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Swiss cheese really? I'm surprised he didn't pick something more extravagant.
Well yeah they made the mistake of letting them out of the country of course they don't want to go back.
I'm just a bit suprised china allows that. But I'm not sure what they are thinking anymore I heard they refused a us warship port access a few days ago.
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But I'm not sure what they are thinking anymore I heard they refused a us warship port access a few days ago.
Didn't want their prostitutes getting spoiled.
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News for nerds (Score:2)
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I'm intrigued as to what that device actually is, and what it's supposed to be. I like the aerial attached to the cabinet too - I wonder if it actually connected to anything.
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Actually a nut bar would be a huge social advance in North Korea. One cashew is a week's rations for the average family.
Impressive. (Score:4, Funny)
I was not aware you could keep people from dying by outlawing funerals.
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I believe they provide a service [youtube.com]. (Had to be the first to trot that out today)
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I was not aware you could keep people from dying by outlawing funerals.
Maybe it's to stop people from finding out who's died, so they can't dig them up and eat them. Seem to remember that N.Korea has a rather interesting cannibalism problem due to the lack of food in general.
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Your signature makes your post even more disturbing!
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I was not aware you could keep people from dying by outlawing funerals.
Does the US really want to piss off a guy with that kind of power?
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Not in Pyongyang. Dying in ditches is strictly prohibited. You must crawl into a cemetery, dig a hole, throw yourself in then bury yourself. Anything less than full obedience will mean your family are shipping off to a forced labor camp.
And please remember, have a nice day!
Signed, Kim Jong Un, the Guy that owns your ass
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So hitching and ditching are both illegal? Seriously, WTF NK!?
A Drone strike solution (Score:2, Interesting)
I keep thinking how the US will drone strike wedding receptions on flimsy evidence, even assassinating our own citizens and their children for even *meeting* with an alleged terrorist
Take one of the Chinese ambassadors aside, have a quiet word, get a secret "OK" from the leadership, and *BANG!*. No more fear, uncertainty, and doubt in South Korea or Japan.
We could even disavow all knowledge. Classify the relevant documents for 50 y
Re: A Drone strike solution (Score:3, Funny)
> ...and a single drone strike in NK could solve much of the world's conflict.
That might actually and forever solve all of the worlds conflicts.
I wonder if starting a war between the US and China really is really such a promising perspective from your mothers basement, Mr. Warrior.
If you are old enough I suggest you enlist in the army and fight and fall for some made up convincing reason in some desert instead of starting a career in politics cause further world wars.
I got one! (Score:3)
> ...and a single drone strike in NK could solve much of the world's conflict.
That might actually and forever solve all of the worlds conflicts.
I wonder if starting a war between the US and China really is really such a promising perspective from your mothers basement, Mr. Warrior.
If you are old enough I suggest you enlist in the army and fight and fall for some made up convincing reason in some desert instead of starting a career in politics cause further world wars.
Woot! I got one!
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"I wonder if starting a war between the US and China really is really such a promising perspective"
What makes you think that China still cares about North Korea?
A unified, prosperous Korea would represent an expanded market for Chinese stuff. Rotting corpses do not buy many iPhones.
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It reminds me of ten years ago when Alexander Litvinenko died of polonium-210 poisoning after having tea with some KGB agents in London. Hmmm, who could have been behind that one?
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And the risk of retaliation is great.
Uh... really? (Score:5, Interesting)
It sets a bad precedent. And the risk of retaliation is great.
Um... retaliation from whom?
And wasn't the precedent set when we tracked down and killed Saddam Hussein? (And his "most wanted [wikipedia.org]" cronies, conveniently passed out to our soldiers as a deck of playing cards?)
Or how about Manuel Noriega [wikipedia.org], who was the head of a foreign nation, and we sent in a seal team to capture him, kidnap him, and bring him to the US to stand trial?
Or how about (with help from the UK) overthrowing the democratically elected leader of Iran [wikipedia.org] in order to install the Shah, who was a brutal dictator who tortured people for the next 38 years?
Or overthrowing the democratically-elected leader of Guatemala [wikipedia.org]?
And that's only in the last 50-ish years, and ones that I can remember on the spot.
Bad precedent?
The US does whatever the hell it wants, and doesn't care overly much about world opinion.
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Um... retaliation from whom?
From North Korea.
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From North Korea.
The evidence suggests that they can't even get a missile to their neighbors, and we're not trading with them so they can't hide a nuke in a shipment of plastic toys. How do you propose that they would retaliate?
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They've gotten missiles to their neighbors before [wikipedia.org], and don't seem to have any trouble. In one case, they launched two missiles, one that landed on the north side of Japan and one that landed of the south side of Japan, presumably as a demonstration of their capabilities. The recent tests that have been failures have either been submarine based launches, or other experiments. It would not be surprising if they had ICBM + true submarine launch capabilities by the end of the decade.
As for right now, they have enough artillery to pulverize Seoul, so that's millions of people dead almost immediately.
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Bomb Soul into the ground?
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Your choice of words in "clean it .. up" is strange, as each and every example given was of the US doing completely the opposite. Don't pretend the US is the world police - police are there to maintain peace and stability. The US is more like the world's mafia, doing what they want to maximize profits, regardless of the fallout, or the hypocrisy involved.
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Thank you. Wish I had mod points.
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China have a big vested interest in North Korea not collapsing. If that happens, then they'll be facing 10s to 100s of thousands of refugees flooding into their already unstable border regions.
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In what possible way? How would killing the NK leadership affect conflict in Africa, Eastern Europe, Ukraine and any other place there is actual conflict. Apart from the Korean peninsula where all the conflict of the last 60 odd years has been bluster and rhetoric of the losing side locking down and pretending to themselves they won?
You have a point but it's a bit more complicated (Score:3)
I keep thinking how the US will drone strike wedding receptions on flimsy evidence, even assassinating our own citizens and their children for even *meeting* with an alleged terrorist
Take one of the Chinese ambassadors aside, have a quiet word, get a secret "OK" from the leadership, and *BANG!*. No more fear, uncertainty, and doubt in South Korea or Japan.
You are right, that this could be done. But the situation is a bit more complex.
1) China is sincere when they say they want a nuclear free Korean peninsula, but they view all NK regime changes as bad for them with no possible good outcomes. They fear that once the peninsula is unified under a South Korean government that the US won't leave Korea and will, in fact, station US troops on China's borders. China also benefits from the current situation by, among other things, getting cut rate prices on Nort
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It is seductive to think that you can assassinate a few "bad men" to solve the world's problems, but if you don't think about the fallout of your action you're more likely to make the situation worse. You transform an unfriendly country wi
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Don't break his little mind! If you make him realise the only reason he's upset is his misogyny/racism - and not some feigned appreciation for tradition - he'll have to spend a few more minutes coming up with an excuse why he's not misogynistic/racist, and time is money!
Awww, honey.... (Score:5, Funny)
"Awww, baby, you know I'd love to marry you, but Dear Leader says we can't."
Best. Excuse. EVER.
Minimize 'mishaps' (Score:2)
And they are still testing missiles. Some NORK Air Force general is due to step into Kim Jong-Un's position when one of these goes seriously off course. Nudge, nudge. Wink, wink.
You know what's ironic (Score:5, Insightful)
It makes me wonder who put together my Samsung!
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Sources (Score:3)
How do you ban all weddings, exactly? (Score:2)
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How it that so hard to understand: 1) declare that weddings aren't permitted 2) enforce the ban 3) profit
This is about limiting groups of people and having control of movements of people. Nothing strange about it, just compare the people control used during e.g. a presidential visit.
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No you do not.... all you need is a preacher.
And preachers who have been willing to break what they perceive to be a bad law is not a new thing.
Considering the small actual number of genuinely required people to be in attendance at a wedding, it is improbable to the extreme that they would even necessarily get caught. Official documents can be post-dated.
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No you do not.... all you need is a preacher.
I was curious about this, but you would be hard-pressed to find a "preacher" in North Korea, apparently. Weddings there are usually based on traditions that aren't like Western marriage rituals. There would be a lot of people around, and it would be difficult for it to be hidden away from someone who might turn you in.
I'm not saying impossible, but difficult.
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Surprise? (Score:2)
News for Nerds? (Score:2)
When you wanna hang out, you gotta take her out (Score:2)
cocaine.....
Seriously, what's to stop this fruitcake nation-state autocrat from becoming hopelessly addicted to substances which
1) make him feel poweful in the face of overwhleming odds, i.e. going up against the U.S.
2) seriously and permanently shift his reasoning and perception facilities deep into the megalomaniac-omnipotent spectrum ?
Answer- nothing and no one.
Hopefully the people around him have an Easy button under their desks they can push before he waddles them into nuclear oblivion.
once-in-a-generation party (Score:2)
I read this in a much too positive way... biggest one in 36 years?
Sounds like a blast, way better than those missile tests! (pun intended :)
Re:This is the future that Republicans... (Score:4, Insightful)
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I'm not 100% sure your example is right: There may be a habitable planet with something resembling wheat somewhere in the andromeda galaxy - so there may be at least some risk for a fellow traveler with coeliac disease.
At least a higher risk than finding left wing extremism like universal health care or clean drinking water in North Korea.
Re: This is the future that Republicans... (Score:4, Interesting)
And there is a risk that everything you have heard about North Korea is wrong, that all information you have about it just is propaganda so that you won't see what real freedom is like. If you go to North Korea as a tourist, how do you know that you aren't led into a fake city setup in South Korea to make North Korea look like a dictatorship?
The analogy still holds, Andromeda is gluten free enough.
If North Korea was even remotely free there would be more than one way in on a tourist trip that still makes the place look like shit. There would probably be North Koreans all over the place going on about how good it is back home. Also they wouldn't have a dead man as eternal president for ever.
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He's not dead, he's immortal, that's part of the conspiracy. The powers that be in the rest of the world just want you to think that the Dear Leader being immortal is impossible, but in reality they invented immortality many years ago, just like they invented the Internet and computers.
(/s)
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North Korea is leftist in much the same way that the Andromeda Galaxy is gluten free.
North Korea is absolutely the end result of extreme leftism. I'm guessing you think Cuba is right-wing also?
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Not at all, NK is not even communist, it's called Juche - military leadership with focus on self-reliance and the individual. In other words, another way of justifying a military dictatorship.
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Not at all, NK is not even communist, it's called Juche - military leadership with focus on self-reliance and the individual. In other words, another way of justifying a military dictatorship.
Oh, give me a break. The state owns all means of production - it's communism. Like Cuba.
Re:This is the future that Republicans... (Score:4, Insightful)
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Nope. You're thinking of authoritarian. Left wing, by actual definition, refers to political groups favouring liberal, progressive or radical views or political reform. North Korea doesn't allow for "wings" per se, but it is firmly opposed to all those principles.
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Nope. You're thinking of authoritarian. Left wing, by actual definition, refers to political groups favouring liberal, progressive or radical views or political reform. North Korea doesn't allow for "wings" per se, but it is firmly opposed to all those principles.
On what fucking planet can you have leftist policies without imposing them via authoritarian means? Or do you really think it's NOT authoritarian in any way to FORCE a devout Christian baker to make a cake for a gay marriage? How is it NOT authoritarian to FORCE 9-year-old girls to share a bathroom with a 35-year-old self-styled "trans" MAN WITH A PENIS
Oh, no. That's not AUTHORITARIAN at all.
Oh, right. Your planet is in the Andromeda galaxy.
Re:This is the future that Republicans... (Score:4, Insightful)
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I'm so tired of hearing such nonsense. Read some Rawls or at least some Wikipedia articles about political theories and traditions, instead of inventing your own Humpty-Dumpty language.
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So I can only choose between being unfree "for my own good" and unfree "for profit"?
Well, then I choose those that at least PRETEND they give a fuck about me. Not to mention that if you're dealing with an oppressive regime, you sure want the one that is less efficient at it.
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What, the No True Scotsman fallacy again? Seriously, when is the Left going to start owning their ideology's problems, instead of every single time using No True Scotsman to dodge responsibility again and again?
It isn't a True Scotsman if you can single out which ones are true before one points out the flaws.
You can whine all you want about the horrors of socialism and parent can just point at the Nordic countries and claim "This is socialism done right, here is the True Scotsman"
What country are you going to point at to show capitalism done right? Do you know one that haven't turned into cronyism where the rich are above the law? One where the free market actually exists and haven't been put out of order by oligo
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It's not really No True Scotsman. The Andromeda Galaxy *is* gluten free. That's not really the relevant part of North Korea though.
North Korea is:
- Totalitarian
- Isolationist
- Cult of personality for dear leader
- Essentially a monarchy
These are not left wing ideals. They aren't right wing ideals either. They show the limitations of the one-dimensional political axis.
These things come to mind much more readily than stuff like their taxation system (I looked it up; officially they have 0 taxes but obvious
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Stop making such ridiculous generalizations. I'm sure they sound all right and dandy to you, but to anyone with more than a passing grasp of critical thinking you are raising "I AM AN IDIOT" flags left, right and center.
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There needs to be another fallacy added to the list of fallacies that everybody repeats like vomit. Like.. I don't know, the "Rebuttal using tired trope fallacy fallacy" . It makes no fucking sense, but we might have a chance of seeing some original thought on display. Or would people just end up re-gurgitating "ah, I see you used the rebuttal using tired trope fallacy fallacy fallacy to support your rebuttal" ad infinitum. Ah fuck you slashdot, see you never again you smug fucking fuckfaces.
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(As for gluten... I don't think they have that in NK.)
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When you go far enough to the left or right you end up meeting the other side coming your way.
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Re:This is the future that Republicans... (Score:5, Informative)
No they aren't leftists, they aren't rightists, they are a single party.
Left-right originated in the French revolution and referred to where deputies preferred to sit in the assembly. Conservatives tended to group on the right side whereas revolutionaries grouped the left side, moderates were the center. Having a left-right distinction implies an assembly, or at least some diversity of opinion.
There is no such thing in North Korea.
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Re:This is the future that Republicans... (Score:5, Funny)
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In the same vein, the Republicans want to take your stuff, remove worker's protections, tell you who you can have sex with and how, while dictating which deity you're allowed to pray to.
In short - both parties want to take your stuff and control how you live. We are mice voting between black and white cats.
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Both parties want control. Of you and as much else as they can. They only give you the illusion of choice in the matters that draw in the right voters for their goals.
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Re:Double Standard (Score:4, Funny)
When North Korea cracks down on freedom, Slashdot rushes to their defense to try to debunk the story.
That's because every story out of North Korea sounds like it was made up by someone on LSD.
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You misunderstand that cracking down on freedoms in NK is FUNNY as fuck. Think of it as the difference between your dad sending you to bed early and your little cousin crying "respect mah otoriteeeee!"
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I'm tired of the political B.S. in this country. It's getting so annoying I can't even laugh at the b.s. in NK now.
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