Election Officials And Crackers Challenge Diebold 219
Rick Zeman writes "The Washington Post is reporting that election officials in Florida have manipulated election results in controlled tests. From the article: 'Four times over the past year Sancho told computer specialists to break in to his voting system. And on all four occasions they did, changing results with what the specialists described as relatively unsophisticated hacking techniques. To Sancho, the results showed the vulnerability of voting equipment manufactured by Ohio-based Diebold Election Systems, which is used by Leon County and many other jurisdictions around the country.'"
As they say (Score:5, Funny)
After all - people have been trying to rig results for a long time. But this just makes it so easy for one person to potentially change the outcome of an election....
Michael
Re:As they say (Score:2)
What do you mean "potentially"?
Surprise, Surprise, Surprise!....NOT! (Score:3, Informative)
North Carolina had the same problem with their voting machines (http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20051130/112120
The only new thing here is the current state finding Diebold non-compliant.
Insanely poor program architecture (Score:5, Informative)
If I prepared work like that for a client, I'd expect to get chucked out by security.
I'll also note the following:
a) Diabold say that a paper trail is not needed for security, but provide one on their own ATMs. Apparently independent verification of election results is less important then $$$ transactions.
b) Both local and remote vulns have been demonstrated on their voting machines, but the ATMs have not been pwned.
c) Diabold refuses to let the source code be reviewed, and chose to run on Windows XP so neither the program or the OS of the box can be verified safe.
d) Diabold machines can have the vote totals rewritten on their memory sticks as they do not cryptographically sign or encrypt the totals. That's plain text on a card that can be removed from the machine and has a standard file format.
e) Diabold security is fucked whether or not they put the same code they have tested on the box. With tested, verfied boxes they cannot add XP security patches for known flaws after te verification date (and if there is one thing worth keeping an 0-day for...). If they do add security patches etc then we are trusting closed source biaries to be added to election counting machines without the possibility of review. One bad actor and the elecetion is up for grabs.
No thanks. I'm not usually a conspiracy theorist but is is as if they were designed to be broken into.
Would a BSD box with one simple program, output to the framebuffer, a results paper trail and a constant SSH tunnel to the FEC be that hard? *sighs*
Fuck Diabold.
Why not do something about it? (Score:4, Insightful)
Steps to stopping the stupidity:
1) Put down (favorite game) when you're off work.
2) Write plan, put something together.
3) Get in touch [senate.gov] with someone with the power to make the (smart) decision.
4) Show off.
Re:Why not do something about it? (Score:3, Insightful)
1) Put down (favorite game) when you're off work.
2) Write plan, put something together.
3) Get in touch with someone with the power to make the (smart) decision.
4) Go to jail because now they can prove you tried to find a way to subvert the system.
Re:Why not do something about it? (Score:3, Interesting)
It may actually only be a few weeks worth of coding, and I can think of only a dew things that need to be covered.
1: Graphic selection via a touch screen.
2: Voice reading of the candiate names for the blind.
3: A safe, intepreted language to provide a sandbox.
4: An aim for the minimum number of LOC to make it easy to verify.
5: No open ports, but constant transmission of votes as they are made on an SSH, public-key encrypted tunnel (so it will be noticed if the tota
Re:Why not do something about it? (Score:2)
Re:Why not do something about it? (Score:2)
Re:Why not do something about it? (Score:2)
So you'd have to pee to make your vote count?!
Someone already is. (Score:5, Informative)
There's an organization called the Open Voting Consortium [openvotingconsortium.org] whose mission is "the development, maintenance, and delivery of open voting systems for use in public elections." They are directly opposed to the shenanigans that Diebold has engaged in.
Problem is, they spend their donations on actually developing the system, not in paying off Congressmen to give them lucrative exclusive contracts. Still, one can hope that it changes someday. (And donate to support the effort...)
Re:Someone already is. (Score:2)
Why should government listen to an organization that is not part of the government (assuming OVC isn't)? They have their own non-partisan government organization which has been formed using our own rules of democracy and tax money.
I would feel uneasy about _any_ non-government organization being adopted by the government as your wishes expressed, for fear of pol
Re:Insanely poor program architecture (Score:3, Interesting)
And do you really think that vote anonymity--an essential feature of our process--would last if people walked out of their polling place with some sort of receipt? If you can connect an identity to a vote, you can directly coerce or otherwise influence that voter with
Not that sort of paper trail (Score:5, Informative)
The election officials keep the paper ballots, machine printed recepts that is, so that in the event of a dispute they can be hand counted. Since, theoretically, every voter looked at their recept and verified that it recorded what they truly intended to vote for, if someone hacks the machines and falsifies the votes recorded there, the paper ballots get the final say in the event of a dispute.
It also gives you a good indication of where the falsification of the electronic votes got started since you can say: hmmm, district 123 shows 4000 votes for candidate X on the computer, but the paper ballots only show 1000 votes for candidate X, who messed with the machines in district 123?
Essentially we're keeping the old paper method of vote recording as a backup in the event that its suspected that someone hacks the machines.
Re:Not that sort of paper trail (Score:2)
Have the paper drop into a box after verification - otherwise it goes in a trash box. Do a random audit of x% of the results, and a systematic audit any time there is cause to do so...
Re:Not that sort of paper trail (Score:2)
I'm assuming current counter-measures against ballot box stuffing are sufficient from someone printing up a couple of thousand fake votes and putting them in the box.
Re:Not that sort of paper trail (Score:2)
Re:Not that sort of paper trail (Score:2)
The election officials keep the paper ballots, machine printed recepts that is, so that in the event of a dispute they can be hand counted...the paper ballots get the final say in the event of a dispute.
Sorry to be argumentative, because I'd like there to be an elegant solution to this problem, but doesn't this essentially turn the electronic vot
Re:Paper trail is a red herring. (Score:3, Informative)
A standard should be set for the ballot and the voting software's capabilities, and then several companies' equipment set up at every station. In fact, if these all generate a standardized paper ballot, then the counting process could (and should) be completely divorced from the voting process, perhaps even an additional vendor could deal with t
Re:Paper trail is a red herring. (Score:3, Insightful)
It doesn't. But the original posters' point was that if there is any suspicion of discrepancies/errors/hacking, the "system" (meaning the whole election process) can fall back on a more traditional/reliable method (paper votes).
Paper ballots have their own problems, but in general it's a different set of problems than the ones in electronic systems.
Re:Paper trail is a red herring. (Score:2)
No it's not, yes that's right, but no it can't.
I think you're reacting to a misreading of the term "paper trail". The official ballot has to remain tangible, because it makes a chain of custody possible. That means paper (or punched metal, or whatever). Electronic ballots are subject to a range of tomfoolery that make the proc
Re:Paper trail is a red herring. (Score:2)
I also don't understand why it was not in place from the beggining, other than not having coughing up enough money to fund it 100%. If that was the case then why not wait a few years longer until we have a proper system in place (e-voting + paper backup)?
Re:Paper trail is a red herring. (Score:2)
By itself, nothing.
As part of a spot-check quality control process, however, it is pretty damn foolproof.
You make it a requirement to, on the day after the election or whenever, go back through say 1-5% of the total machines in any county or city, plus any machines with exceptional results, and read all the paper vote results off the internal record, a
Re:Paper trail is a red herring. (Score:2)
And made even more powerful by focusing on the states where votes are close.
Re:Insanely poor program architecture (Score:2, Interesting)
The only thing stopping wholesale cheating is the use of exit polls, and even they weren't enough in the last presidential election. If the exit polls and actual poll results differ by 30%, people will get upset. In reality, even a small de
Re:Insanely poor program architecture (Score:2, Interesting)
Why in the heck would exit polls stop wholesale cheating? You are assuming:
a) people are telling the truth about whom they voted for
b) either all the people are polled or a good sampling
c) and the most important, the
Re:Insanely poor program architecture (Score:2)
Re:Insanely poor program architecture (Score:2)
http://www.onlinejournal.com/evoting/111704DeHart/ 111704dehart.html [onlinejournal.com]
Re:Insanely poor program architecture (Score:2)
A party could gain massive votes by canvasing their opponents as a guilt-ridden choice or 'immoral' choice, causing unbalance in the way votes are made and the way they are told to exit poll officials. eg. A person may (rightly so) feel uneasy about saying they voted for Democrats because the local community is very pro-war.
Worse still, and this has happened in many countries, people could be scared of violent reprisal for revealing their vote choi
Re:Insanely poor program architecture (Score:2)
Do you have the source code for Unix?
Also, do you have the source code for the compiler that compiled that version of Unix?
And finally, do you have the source code for the compiler that compiled the compiler [acm.org]?
Granted, all of this requires a level of sophistication not yet achieved. However, unless you are capable of manually examining the entire sys
Re:Insanely poor program architecture (Score:2)
You do not understand. But you will: http://www.ece.cmu.edu/~ganger/712.fall02/papers/p 761-thompson.pdf [cmu.edu]
Re:Insanely poor program architecture (Score:2)
I'm sorry, this just shows you really don't understand the 'attack vectors'.
Closed source vendors compile once and send out binaries which you can checksum. Open source users recompile for many good reasons and many bad reasons BUT they still use the compiler provided by the distro for their initial compilation.
There is nothing to suggest that the binary compiler provided by your distro of ch
Re:Insanely poor program architecture (Score:2)
Re:Insanely poor program architecture (Score:2)
Absolutely nothing, as I said in my previous post I was not saying that closed source was any more secure in this (admittedly unlikely) scenarion. I was just rebutting your suggestion that open source was resistant to it.
You wouldn't need to poison every binary distr
You can always use paper ballots! (Score:5, Insightful)
"All votes are made on the same standard heavy paper ballot which is inserted in a standard cardboard box, furnished by Elections Canada. The ballot and the box are devised to ensure that no one except the elector knows the individual choice that was made. Counting the ballots is done by hand in full view of the representatives of each candidate. There are no mechanical, electrical or electronic systems involved in this process."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_electoral_s
Scandalous!
Cheers,
-b
Why paper ballots don't work in the US (Score:3, Informative)
In 2004, here in Columbus (Franklin County, Ohio) we voted for 57 different offices, judgeships, city/county/state initiatives and referenda. If you multiply that out by the 590,000 votes cast, then you see why electronic balloting is a necessity.
Re:Insanely poor program architecture (Score:2)
What honest and experienced company would chose anything but that easy and elegant solution that is currently implemented on every ATM and all cash registers if not because they want to open the possibility to election fraud? Hell, they might even had to pay to remove that standard feature from the hardware. No amount of electron
Re:Insanely poor program architecture (Score:2)
Obviously. That's why Diebold was hired in the first place. Being capable of ensuring the "right" President is elected is worth big money. Not to you and me, but to corporations and powerbrokers and such. You scratch their back, they scratch yours. Damn straight there isn't going to be verification!
Re:Insanely poor program architecture (Score:4, Funny)
if (machine_type == VOTING_MACHINE)
{
put_republican_candidate();
}
else
{
do_transaction();
print_receipt();
}
return();
In light of recent disclosures both in the USA (Abramof) and here in Australia (the Wheat Board) I don't trust conservatives to behave honestly. (Not that I ever did, it's just that it's nice to have your prejudices confirmed.)
Re:Insanely poor program architecture (Score:2)
Re:Insanely poor program architecture (Score:2, Insightful)
And yes, he was a supremely corrupt fucker. What's your point?
Re:Insanely poor program architecture (Score:5, Interesting)
The US doesn't have a monopoly on bribery. After visiting Hong Kong my brother told me that 20% of the money spent on commercial projects like apartment complexes or office buildings goes towards bribes and kickbacks. They actually budget for bribes over there.
America isn't perfect...especially over the last 5 years...but maybe the next revolution will end political corruption in the same way organized crime was curtailed in the 60s and 70s. Two of America's greatest senators...John McCain and Russ Feingold, nearly managed to push a campaign finance reform bill through congress in 2001. They failed, but it shows that some people at the top do care about making America a better place, and that they are working towards making it happen.
Re:Insanely poor program architecture (Score:2)
Re:Insanely poor program architecture (Score:2)
You imply that you believe the non-conservative polititions are less corrupt. Do you think if I went and created a table of Liberal vs Labour public corruption charges (for their members), that it would look horribly lop sided against Libs? Because if you follow through with your assertion, I don't mind doing one.
Re:Insanely poor program architecture (Score:2)
This condition will be usually false. It is a bad idea to compare floating point numbers unless you are very, very sure what they are. And if your rand() returns a FP number instead of the usual [0..RAND_MAX-1], then it's unwise to expect that all 32 or 64 or 80 bits of two floating point numbers will exactly match each other.
The guys in power don't care. (Score:3, Informative)
Fact is, CEO's and friends of voting machine companies get into power. Why? Guess. It isn't the 20% of the vote they need to swing; it's the 6% after they've divided everyone on the issues. Voting laws and policys are consistantly broken, and is anything done about it? The answer lies in the question; Has anyone been taken out of power yet? Dictatorship only works if people are divided; if they stand for something and stand by it for hell or high water.
And I might, just might give credit to the guys who said "well, it's stil the will of the people" if it weren't for that they can't prove their position since there's nothing for them to count. The election board can't even tell them who voted for who so they can go around asking people.
Of course, the best way you can tell the government you don't like what you're doing is to decide you stand for something and stand for it tall. I personally chose the constitution; it ain't perfect, but it's something everyone can agree on. Of course, ever since the civil war and reconstruction the constitution's layed dormant. To make a long story short, if you want to get rid of the current government, the best way is to simply stop working for them; stop giving them your money. How do you do that? Well, basically the 14th amendment set you up to be a federal citizen by the name of a "U.S. citizen" and social security turned you into a corporate legal fiction so that income tax, which worked only on corporations, now works on you. How do you get out? You rescind your federal citizenship, declare your citizenship of your state as it was before reconstruction, rescind your birth certificate (to remove proof of being under the 14th), rescind your social security (to correct your status as a soverign instead of a corporation), then begin rescinding everything else; drivers lisence, fishing lisences, gun lisence, any contract with the federal government and it's munincipal corporations (read; the states are corporations). You can get a non-binding play-ID from the SS office if you want to get a bank account, for example. Then you simply stop paying income and social security taxes, atwhich point you stop giving the government 30% of your income and begin working to reinstate lawful government in your state via holding elections and office and organizing locally. More to the point, if enough people do it quickly enough, the federal government will have about 10 trillion in debt to pay off, and no way repay it back which means a massive collapse.
The price? Reading a few books; learning how history, governments, and legal documents work. Mabye $500 in books total. A good place to start is here:
http://www.usa-the-republic.com/revenue/true_hist
Do a find for john ainsworth and ed wahler on this page
http://mp3.rbnlive.com/Stadt06.html [rbnlive.com]
They've been preparing a book and an organization to do this on a massive scale. The book comes out in march-ish along with the publicisation of the startup and they hope to do it state-by-state.
Re:The guys in power don't care. (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:The guys in power don't care. (Score:2)
This reminds me of the crackpot theory [straightdope.com] that you don't have to pay income tax because the 16th amendment wasn't properly ratified.
Fer sure... (Score:2)
I worked with a guy a few years ago that got wrapped up in this, um, er, philosophy. He actually got the HR department for a fortune-500 company to stop witholding social security from his paycheck on the basis of a poor reproduction of a letter on congressional letterhead from a Congressman with these unique ideas. About 9 months later, he gets word from HR that not only are they resuming witholding, but com
The Bush family is the most corrupt ever. (Score:4, Interesting)
It does not surprise me that Jeb Bush's state is involved in voting machine vulnerabilities. Quote from the story "... vendors such as Diebold have too much influence in the administration of elections, a view that resonated with Lida Rodriguez-Taseff, the founder of the Miami-Dade Election Reform Coalition."
The president of Diebold said he would deliver the votes to Bush [commondreams.org]. And he did [whatreallyhappened.com].
I wrote short reviews of books and movies about the corruption, but I only barely touched the surface: Unprecedented Corruption: A guide to conflict of interest in the U.S. government [futurepower.org]. Note that, although Michael Moore's manner of expression is sloppy, other authors supported his main points in the movie Fahrenheit 9/11. For example, George W. Bush does hold hands with Saudi leaders, his father was at a meeting with a brother of Osama bin Laden on the day before 9/11, and so on.
Re:The Bush family is the most corrupt ever. (Score:3, Insightful)
I think you overestimate the influence of morality. The interest of this family (and their party) has little to do with right and wrong. Despite our president's delusions that the voices in his head are Jesus Christ telling him what to do, that's really not the point.
At some point (hint R
There's one flaw in your argument (Score:3, Insightful)
Note that by "initial cost", I mean the initial 80-100 billion that Bush requested for the war. What's the price tag up to now? 200b? 300b? It's a hell of a lot more. Plus there's
Re:There's one flaw in your argument (Score:3, Insightful)
Yep, fucked the country over good and half of the voting public willingly bent over for another reaming too.
It wasn't about oil - it was about oil infrastructure. Most of the oilfields in Texas are dry (or too expensive to extract from, even at $70/barrell) but what Texas has a lot of are the companies that build rigs, build pipelines, do geo-petrol exploration, etc. Those companies have made a killing since the Iraqi invasion.
Re: There's one flaw in your argument (Score:5, Insightful)
Ah, but you neglect the distinction between who is going to pay for it and who was supposed to profit from it.
The oil companies were supposed to supposed to benefit from it (by means of the distribution contracts rather than by pwning the oilfields per se), but you and your descendents will be paying for the war, yea unto the seventh generation.
(Saw a news story somewhere this month about a new estimate of the war's total costs to the USA running to the amount of two trillion dollars. Cheney and his cronies won't be picking up the tab; they're already getting tax breaks on their record profits, while the national debt goes ballistic.)
Re: There's one flaw in your argument (Score:2)
Exactly right. Hussein overthrown, friendly government installed, Haliburton cleans up mess, US military keeps the peace, total cost to US taxpayers astronomical.
Once the dust clears, friendly government sells drilling rights to US oil companies (you think the Bushes have a piece of one?), who patiently wait for the dust to clear to jump in and make astronomical profits.
For that kind of money
Re:There's one flaw in your argument (Score:2)
They however, will get all the profits.
Re:There's one flaw in your argument (Score:2)
Re:There's one flaw in your argument (Score:2)
Not if you're a Saudi oil barron (oh, and who is the Bush family friends with?). You've seen your product more than double in price for no real increase in the cost of actually getting it out of the ground.
The UAE has so much oil and natural gas money they're building an underwater hotel [dubaicityguide.com].
Re:The Bush family is the most corrupt ever. (Score:2)
Argumentum ad hominem [infidels.org].
The people running things, both Rep and Dem, are very wealthy and in many instances, particularly in the White House, are ex-CEOs. They are making national decisions based on profit margin, not for us, but for themselves.
A nicely demonstrative example of Argumentum ad Lazarum [infidels.org] there.
I'll leave the rest to the viewers at home.
Weak. (Score:2, Informative)
Diebold is a fine example of how the small-mindedness of some people manifests itself. Particularly, it shows that proprietary softare and oafish business practices are next of kin.
But it has nothing to do with President Bush.
You defend Moore's dishonesty, but tout Diebold's ineptitude as evidence of President Bush's alleged corruption because his brother is governor of Florida?
That's some strained reasoning.
Re:Weak. (Score:2, Insightful)
Volusia county, enough said. Maybe not because of Jeb Bush, but someone there is pulling a little too hard for the Republicans. Of course, the same thing can be said about Democrats in Ohio, but what do you expect when the two major parties in our country are basically scraping the bottom of the barrel in order to look for candidates? Somebody's gotta make it look like people actually want to vote for these guys.
Diebold's ineptitude
See, here's the problem: their secure and successful ATM venture
Re:Weak. (Score:2)
ATM mistakes happen all the time, you are arguing out of ignorance of the history of ATM failures (where a transaction was incorrect, not just the thing going into breakdown mode).
"Never ascribe to malice that which is adequately explained by incompetence" rings hollow when the company has created and deployed a system that has not been brok
Re:The Bush family is the most corrupt ever. (Score:4, Insightful)
Bush family? Sad to say, Abraham Lincoln was more corrupt than all the Bushes combined. With GW, it isn't considered treason to say that the Gulf War II was wrong. In Abraham Lincoln's regime, it would have been. As unconstitutional as W's wiretapping efforts were, Lincoln wiped his arse with the constitution by suspending it completely.
Re:The Bush family is the most corrupt ever. (Score:2)
Re:The Bush family is the most corrupt ever. (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:The Bush family is the most corrupt ever. (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:The Bush family is the most corrupt ever. (Score:3, Interesting)
So, Bush hangs out with the Saudis, and they influence our policy, eh? THEN WHY THE FUCK DID WE GO TO WAR WITH IRAQ!? Hello, the Saudis were against the war! They were doing diplomacy up until the
Re:The Bush family is the most corrupt ever. (Score:2)
Does a 'stop-loss' force people who were never in the military to join or go to jail? If not then the difference to a "real" draft is quite obvious.
Re:The Bush family is the most corrupt ever. (Score:2)
I think, basically, that the hundreds of thousands of people tortured for their political beliefs in Iraq pre-invasion would disagree. But feel free to ignore documented evidence for your own political gain. I think it's sick frankly. cue 'yeh well
Re:The "Bush" family is the most corrupt ever. (Score:3, Funny)
Then there's the way that John F. "Bush," after a Senate career buillt upon the tacit support of Joe McCarthy, was elected--without a majority of the popular vote--President in 1960, despite allegations of voter fraud in Texas and Richard Daley's
Re:The "Bush" family is the most corrupt ever. (Score:2)
Re:The "Bush" family is the most corrupt ever. (Score:3, Funny)
How many Iraqis did Joe Kennedy torture? (Score:2)
Re:How many Iraqis did Joe Kennedy torture? (Score:2)
Considering Joe Kennedy's complicity in the appeasement at
Re:How many Iraqis did Joe Kennedy torture? (Score:2)
Re:The Bush - Osama link (Score:3, Informative)
That's funny, it was strong enough of a point for the Bush administration, they had a citizen of Canada "renditioned" to Syria for more than a year [www.cbc.ca] for working with the brother of a known terrorist.
My personal experiences with Saudis (Score:2, Redundant)
I have personal experiences that influence my opinions concerning this. For several years I would go to a gym at night and work out, perhaps 2 or 3 times a week, for at least an hour and a half and often 3 hours.
I met sons of very wealthy Saudi families at the gym. Working out is very boring, and people sometimes take a break and talk. Often we would hav
Re:The Bush family is the most corrupt ever. (Score:2)
Re:The Bush family is the most corrupt ever. (Score:2)
Perhaps if you did a simple google search of the opening paragraph text you'd find the document duplicated across the web. This for example [politicalwire.com].
Easy Voting Machine (Score:4, Funny)
The voting booth unit {VBU} has a large rotary switch, a pushbutton and a meter with a green zone. The Presiding Officer's unit {POU} contains a power supply, and a column of non-resettable electromechanical counters, all but one of which are covered by a metal plate. This plate is fastened in place with a wire with an aluminium seal bearing the Returning Officer's mark. The counter readings before the start of the election are recorded on a paper label affixed to the underside of the cover plate. There is also a switch labelled "CHARGE" and "VOTE".
Each voter is issued with a unique, identifiable token -- a postcard with their name and address on it. The voter shows the token {Token One} to the Presiding Officer, who first spoils Token One and then moves the switch on the POU to "CHARGE" as the voter steps into the booth. The Presiding Officer then moves the switch to "VOTE". The voter has now traded Token One for a second token, all of which are absolutely anonymous, identical and indistinguible from one another: Token Two is an electrical charge stored in a capacitor contained within the VBU.
The voter spins the rotary switch to their preferred candidate, checks that the meter is in the green zone and depresses the voting button. The VBU capacitor is discharged through the coil of one of the concealed counters in the POU. One terminal of each of these counters is commonned together; the current through any one of the candidate counters also flows through the master counter, and returns to the other plate of the capacitor. The charge in the capacitor is soon exhausted, and cannot be replenished unless the Presiding Officer moves the POU switch to CHARGE. The voter then has the option to move the rotary switch to a different position so as to conceal their preference -- or to leave it there to advertise their preference.
Every voter has a receipt to show that they have voted {the spoiled Token One} but once a vote has been cast, the only record of that vote is the fact that the master counter and one of the candidate counters have advanced by one place. There is thus no way to link a voter with their vote. The master counter is in view of {and the counting mechanism is within earshot of} the PO, who can thus confirm visually and aurally that a vote has been cast {or separately, manually record a "no vote" if the voter leaves the booth without voting for any candidate}. All the candidate counters are concealed until the close of polling, when a few minutes' worth of mental arithmetic will reveal the true count. By virtue of its simplicity, and the fact that it has been subjected to public scrutiny, we can take for granted that the mechanism is behaving as it is supposed to; the Returning Officer need only inspect the tamper-evident seals to determine whether the result is valid or compromised.
{In case the above constitutes a patent claim, I hereby licence it for use royalty-free in all applicable jurisdictions, in the hope that it will be of service to Humankind}.
Re:Easy Voting Machine (Score:3, Insightful)
You'll have to wait until the morning after the election to get results, but it's a fair bit more reliable and secure than any electronic system in use today.
"Crackers Challenge Diebold" (Score:4, Funny)
Re:"Crackers Challenge Diebold" (Score:2)
"5a) usually disparaging : a poor usually Southern white"
Re:"Crackers Challenge Diebold" (Score:2)
"5a) usually disparaging : a poor usually Southern white"
No, the poster wasn't making that joke, but rather the definition of "one who breaks into computer systems."
Re:"Crackers Challenge Diebold" (Score:2)
It's the news that isn't. (Score:2)
Re:It's the news that isn't. (Score:4, Interesting)
Mark Crispin Miller's Blog [blogspot.com]
The story [blogspot.com] on his blog noting Joe Bageant's recent essay on his inability to get airtime on WHYY's "Fresh Air"
Joe Bageant [joebageant.com] is a journalist and recently a very popular blogger of the plight of the 'redneck' culture in the neo-con political machine. His most recent essay is specifically about the refusal of WHYY to allow Mark Crispin Miller to appear on Fresh Air or otherwise promote his book [joebageant.com] -- Fooled Again: How the Right Stole the 2004 Election and Why They'll Steal the Next One, Too (Unless We Stop Them) [amazon.com] He hits tha nail on the head:
It is safe to say that WHYY and the rest of the public media gang are simply scared to death of uttering the book's title on the airwaves. They know that the neocons will jump up all over their asses claiming liberal bias. Maybe even launch one of their infamous letter writing campaigns. The Republican game plan of unrelenting bullshit, that steady grinding away day in day out -- it works. They have managed to wear down those media they don't already control from the top, make them either doubt themselves or make them damned afraid of repercussions. We can well imagine what the GOP assault on public radio and television has created around places like WHYY. Hell, if they can get Bill Moyers they can get anybody. Right?
It's censorship by intimidation. Large numbers of people are never going to hear about htis book because they don't search Amazon.com for new books about election fraud or by Mark Crispin Miller on a regular basis. They rely on the mass media to keep them informed, and it isn't working anymore. I also agree with his suggestion to contact WHYY directly and let them know that their fear of 'conservatives' reactions will attract the wrath of lots of 'liberals' whom they depend on for their funding at least as much as corporations or the government:
By the way, if you wanna give WHYY hell personally, the phone number is (215) 351-1200. Email is talkback@whyy.org
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--Paul
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So, they're saying that a hacker without physical access would never have been able to get in and that it was only because they were allowed to touch the physical unit that they could make it do such
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I'm not sure what the grey ones are - possibly articles in other sections that wouldn't otherwise make the front page (as someone else suggested).
Have a look at your preferences - there's a new part in the front page section that lets you choose whether or not to display the grey bars, or whether to show the full stories for all, grey bars for all, etc.
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I like it, there's often stories in those '1 More' links that are very interesting, and they are hidden from view until you actually go and look for them.
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I thought it might be a way of displaying "active" topics from subjects you hadn't subscribed to in your preferences. Certainly they all seemed to be articles worth skimming to decide if they're worth reading in detail.
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Now going and looking for an option tou switch them off...
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My subscription had lapsed, and I saw the funny title, so I used it as an excuse to get another subscription
However, the small title area probably ex
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Well, I *am* a paying customer (witness the star by my ID, though it's more of a token of support than an insatiable desire not to see ads), and I haven't seen them before. I'm guessing they're a new feature.
Although, it's weird, because I don't see how this story relates to the one it's "attached" to in any way.
Oh well, guess we'll find out at some point.