NYT on RFID 389
The New York Times has a piece on RFID tags. It's basic, but worth reading as a milestone - the technology is starting to enter the public eye. These RFID tags will have unique serial numbers - every RFID-tagged item you purchase will be uniquely different from every other nearly-identical item, enabling it to be identified and associated with you long after the purchase. And no, microwaving will generally not destroy the tags, and no, most items won't be microwaveable anyway. Try to microwave your couch.
Microwave the couch (Score:3, Funny)
That goes next on the list to a lime pit for all mad scientists.
Re:Microwave the couch (Score:3, Funny)
I like the sound of this... *evil grin*
Re:Microwave the couch (Score:2)
No responsibility whatsoever taken for the smell of kidneys frying (yours)
Re:Microwave the couch (Score:3, Funny)
If you do have a microwave gun, please make damn sure you get the cat off the couch before you use it.
Re:Microwave the couch (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:Microwave the couch (Score:2)
Re:Microwave the couch (Score:2)
Yes, I've actaully asked someone who would know.
Big Brother (Score:3, Interesting)
Not good. (Score:5, Interesting)
I have three opinions about them.
1) Everything you buy that contains an RFID tag must be properly labeled. The consumer should know what they are buying.
2) There should be a way to easily disable them after taking the product home. Ideally, they should be deactivated on your way out the door, but there are complications(non-technical) hindering the store's choices.
3) Any product that has a unique characteristic or property shouldn't have an RFID tag. For instance, if I go to the local Sears, Home Depot, Lowes, whatever and buy a personal fire safe(w/o the changeable combinations), I wouldn't want the safe to have it's combination somewhere indexed to the RFID chip's serial number. There is a greater security risk here, this is but one example.
Re:Not good. (Score:2)
I know there are some of the readers that will think I'm paranoid or a conspiracy nut. I want you to keep in mind the abuses of infor
Re:Not good. (Score:3, Interesting)
What we need is an open source RFID reader so we can identify the id tags we buy.
Since the details of the tech is coming out we as a community need to respond make readers to read the tags. And then we can a isolate them by finding them and removing them from items or b create dummy tranmitters duplicating the id of items and place them in sill
Re:Not good. (Score:2)
Come ON folks. it generates a tiny amount of broadcast power by electromagnetic induction, right? just overload the damn thing. or arc it.
Also: I can think of a couple of ways to read these in the hypothetical house I'm casing to rob;
of course I don't have any actual hard data to work with, so its just a possibility...The first way involves setting up some reltively sensit
You don't need a totally unique ID for that (Score:3, Informative)
For that all you need is an ID thats unique PER PRODUCT, not PER INSTANCE OF THE PRODUCT.
Its the individually unique ID thats the problem here, if it was like barcodes (identifying the product) it wouldn't be such a problem.
Re:Big Brother (Score:3, Insightful)
At least you won't have to register your couch with the DMV. You can always withdraw/use cash to remain anonymous,
Article - no reg. (Score:3, Informative)
By BARNABY J. FEDER
ew product tags equipped with microchips and tiny antennas could one day make it easy to scan all the groceries in a bag simultaneously, allow businesses to locate any item in a warehouse instantly and enable the Defense Department to better manage inventories of mundane necessities like meals and spare boots. Hitachi announced this month that it has developed tags so small that they can be embedded in bank notes to foil money launderers and counterfeiters.
Tags with the technology known as radio frequency identification, or R.F.I.D., transmit a digital response when contacted by radio signals from scanning devices. Older versions of the technology have been around for decades, but now major manufacturers and retailers and the Defense Department are pushing to speed the development of a new version that could be read by scanners anywhere in the world, making it cheaper and more efficient to track the flow of goods from global suppliers to consumers.
The Defense Department expects to issue a statement in the next few days calling on suppliers to adopt the new version of the technology by 2005. Wal-Mart Stores Inc. made a similar announcement in July when it said it was requiring its top 100 suppliers to place tags with the new technology on cartons and pallets shipped to its stores by the end of 2004.
Radio frequency tags are currently used in products like wireless auto keys, toll collection systems and livestock and military armament tracking devices. A radio tagging system at Prada's store in SoHo in Manhattan identifies the clothes a shopper takes into a dressing room and allows the shopper to call up on an electronic screen images of the items being modeled and information about other colors and sizes.
But as business's interest in the technology grows, so do efforts by privacy advocates to place strict limits on its use.
"Very few people grasp the enormity of this," said Katherine Albrecht, director of Citizens Against Supermarket Privacy Invasion and Numbering, a group that was founded in 1999 to protest the use of frequent shopper cards and credit cards to collect data on individual consumers' purchasing habits.
Ms. Albrecht and other critics say that companies and government agencies will be able to monitor what people read or where they assemble from radio tags embedded in their books or woven into clothing. Unlike bar codes, which cannot be scanned unless a laser has a direct line of sight to them, the radio tags can be read through walls, and multiple tags can be read in an instant.
"R.F.I.D. certainly has value in the supply chain and in inventory management," said Beth Given, director of the Privacy Rights Clearinghouse in San Diego. But she added that "there are so many potential issues once it gets beyond the point of sale that consumer protections need to be written into law."
Privacy advocates have suggested, among other things, that the tags be designed so that they cannot be reactivated once they are turned off, that all goods with a tag carry a consumer warning and that the tag must be removed when a product is sold unless the buyer agrees to leave it on.
In theory, there may be benefits from keeping the tags active once a product is sold. Washing machines, for example, might identify the clothes in a load and automatically select the appropriate cleaning cycle. And a smart medicine cabinet could tract the expiration on drugs.
Ms. Albrecht, however, has called for a one-year moratorium on using radio frequency tags on individual items while discussions about the implications of the technology take place.
The privacy concerns have already caused some technology managers to play down their interest in using the tags. The Benetton Group, the clothing retailer, for example, announced in response to consumer protests that it had not attached the tags to any individual clothing items. And Wal-Mart halted plans for a widely publici
Re:Article - no reg. (Score:4, Insightful)
Either:
How many will choose to leave it on.
And if you have something to hide, then that is just the excuse that the police/... need to come sniffing.
Either way, the pressures will be such that most people won't bother/want to have them removed.
Re:Article - no reg. (Score:2)
1. We will remove it for you sir, but that will cost you 50c
Forget about it, I'll shop somewhere else.
2. Why do you want to remove it sir, what have you got to hide?
See answer to question 1
Wand. (Score:2)
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Search and destroy (Score:2, Interesting)
"Cleaning behind the couch" will get a whole new meaning.
Re:Search and destroy (Score:3, Interesting)
For RFIDs to be exploitable in the way many seem to think they will be, and for them to be at all useful in a similar manner to bar codes for taking product inventory and the like, they're going to have to have a very generic way of checking the code. Otherwise the store is going to need several readers to check their stock, and the whole usefulness of the scheme will be lost.
If they can read it easily, you can read it easily. It's just a matter of g
Google link *yawn* (Score:2, Informative)
Power Source (Score:2, Interesting)
Re:Power Source (Score:2, Insightful)
Remeber folks (Score:4, Funny)
Remember folks -- when you buy tinfoil, remember to remove the RFID tag from it before you make your hat.
Re:Remeber folks (Score:2)
Mark of the Beast, U.N. Black Helicopters etc. (Score:5, Insightful)
They'll just call that WARE Driving (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Mark of the Beast, U.N. Black Helicopters etc. (Score:2)
active - has batteries, broadcasts it's signal 24/7 for quite a range
passive - no batteries, draws power from the reader, doesnt broadcast 24/7, cant be read from far away.
there are so many positive uses for this, i agree it's one of the m
Re:Mark of the Beast, U.N. Black Helicopters etc. (Score:2)
Hey, theres a potential new product, a faraday cage wallet.
Airports (Score:2, Interesting)
RFIDs should make this much easier...
RFID detector (Score:4, Interesting)
How difficult would it be to build your own RFID detector? If it is too difficult for Joe and Jane Average, how much might one cost at WalMart/Target/Walgreens/geektoys.com?
Somebody want to start a business making these? I have a manufacturing background...
Re:RFID detector (Score:2)
Re:RFID detector (Score:2)
I suspect that detecting and removing most company RFID tags would be fairly straightforward, unless the company is being anno
Boycott RFID products (Score:2)
"This product does not contain any RFID tags"
RFID can be harmless - for instance, helping supermarkets judge thier stock better, tallying up popular products etc.
However, they are almost certainly going to be abused !
Re:Boycott RFID products (Score:2, Insightful)
Personally I'm looking forward to the day I can just wheel my trolley through a scanner and have a bill printed out automatically in front of the teller s
Re:Boycott RFID products (Score:2)
The general public will be blissfully unaware and non-caring about RFID, that is unless someone points out how it can get out of control.
I suppose so long as there's strict legislation, for instance your 'tear off' tag idea, it won't be a privacy threat.
The supermarket trolley idea is one that as far as I can remember has been through trial runs with different technologoy and indeed it's a good idea - except of course, it will mean millions of lost jobs worldwide
What would be cool
Oh no! (Score:2, Funny)
Re:Oh no! (Score:2)
Well, it will now be able to to use the clothes that you wear as an additional clue. So don't ever wear anyone else's clothes again otherwise it will report you to the morality police.
Bank notes (Score:4, Insightful)
Would microwaving (whatsoever) the tag in a bank note render the note unusable? Will shops also have machines for automatically alerting the local police if I try paying with one of the forged ones?
What if I, without knowing it, carry such a note?
Guantanamo calls.
How about read distances? (Score:5, Interesting)
In an unrelated subject, if someone has any clue about RF and DSPs and pulling several cruddy analog low powered alalog signals out of the either, I know someone that would like to talk to you.
Blocking (Score:4, Informative)
Re:Blocking (Score:2)
RFID-embedded money - talk about a mugger's dream come true...
Re:Blocking (Score:3, Funny)
For one thing you have to wait forever for the plant sorry, checkout girl to find enough printer paper to print out every item for sale in the world.
Re:Blocking (Score:2)
RSA makes some really cool stuff, but their licensing schemes for their intellectual property is heavily weighted against t
Try to microwave your couch. (Score:2)
Imagine RFID type tags in bullets (Score:2)
It would be a lot easier to tell who originally bought the ammunition for homicides, even if they didn't do any killing.
Of course, right now the government has a guilty-til-proven-innocent attitude towards speeders they catch with unattended photo-radar traps. Will they take a similar stance if they know the owner of materials used in a crime?
Re:Imagine RFID type tags in bullets (Score:2)
But if you remember those stun-gun type personal protection thingers, if you fire one it releases thousands of tiny balls with a unique number on them that can be traced back to your weapon. Unfortunately, it's dodgy, because the ones I have heard about require that accurate records be kept at the point of sale, and the makers discovered that no such thing was going on, making the added security pointless. Maybe it
Not if you reload your own... (Score:2)
I used to do this as a kid with my father. He still does it.
Ask slashdot... (Score:3, Funny)
Following some advice that I read on a popular website, I attempted to microwave my couch. In the subsequent house fire, I lost many of my prized possessions, and my microwave oven was damaged beyond repair.
Do I have recourse to legal action in this matter?
Saving lives (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:Saving lives (Score:2)
So what?
Sometimes when I give money to the poor it gets embezzled. I once saw a television story about a corrupt cop. Sometimes, parents beat their children.
What conclusions should I draw about these anecdotes, including your own?
Re:Saving lives (Score:2)
Double charging... (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:Double charging... (Score:2, Insightful)
Let's enforce a no-resale clause (Score:3, Interesting)
Then it goes round the car boot sales and picks up the items (doesn't even need to buy/touch them - scan as they walk by), tie back to the original sale (you did pay by credit card didn't you ?) and hit you with a court case.
Result: more profit
It's late at night on slashdot and the nightmare (Score:5, Interesting)
They are going to put these in tires. When you buy your tires the seller is going to be required to enter your information in a database.
One day when you are going a little too fast in a school zone or run a yellow that switches to red too fast an underground computer is going to sense the rfid in your tire, immediately reporting the number via rf link to police headquarters.
You would think that this would be for the purpose of giving you a ticket. You're right, you will get a ticket. But that is not the end the trail for your rfid number.
It immediately gets sent to the state government where it checks to make sure you are not a deadbeat dad that the wherabouts of are unknown. Simultaneously sending it to the FBI to see if you are a name on the "patriot" act watchlist and indexes your location. If you drive on the same street on a regular basis they will know where to find you.
You're not a deadbeatdad, lawbreaker, or terrorist you say??? Well the trail that your rfid number takes does not end there. Your rfid number is sold by cashed-strapped states to a commercial database under the auspices of "risk mitigation" that insurance companies subscribe to. Because you were speeding, you are at an increased risk and your car insurance rates are subsquently raised. Because you drive dangerously, your health insurance rates are also raised. Maybe they cancel your policy outright.
You're thinking I'll just remove the rfid. No you won't. Driving with unregistered tires is against the law, and if the police can't scan you as you drive past his cruiser he pulls you over and immediately suspends your license and impounds your car. But you won't be able to remove it anyway, without destroying the tire, as it is purposefully integrated with the "steel belt".
Does the trail end for your rfid tire number now? No, it most certainly doesn't. To see where it leads further, you are going to have to talk to my patent attorney.
Fake RFIDs (Score:2)
Fun with RFID tags (Score:5, Funny)
This would be much more fun than filling our frequent shopper cards with bogus information or completing surveys with ridiculous answers.
Re:Fun with RFID tags (Score:2)
And here I am cursed with a life full of outdoor thrills, wine with good friends, excellent movies and various degrees of romantic entanglement.
I really have been missing out on the good things. Thank you for opening my eyes.
You know they'll make it illegal (Score:2)
Re:Fun with RFID tags (Score:3, Funny)
Privacy advocates are going overboard... (Score:2)
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"Barcode Scamming" -- How RFID could save us all
The problem with barcodes is how easy they are to create, or more importantly how easy they are to forge. All one must do is download a standard UPC barcode font from the internet and install it on their home computer.
An individual could walk into a store and write down the UPC code off of - lets say a 15" flat screen monitor that costs $245. This would-be criminal then goes home and prints up a UPC code o
Contrived argument, doesn't stand up to analysis. (Score:2)
The product name flashes up on the till, thats how the cashier knows you bought a flat screen TV and not a normal one.
As for the detergent, the barcode IS PART OF THE BOX not stuck on afterwards. So as soon as they reach for the box they know you stuck your own barcode on it.
"Consumer privacy advocates are concerned that the technology could be abus
Re:Contrived argument, doesn't stand up to analysi (Score:2)
In Utah, there was an individual that was taking barcodes from 15" flatscreen monitors - printing them out on labels then returning and purchasing 19" screens.
On the first go-around, the criminal bought 7 monitors without raising suspicion. The second time, he bought 8.
The second time, the cashier was a bit computer savvy. The cashier stated "WOW, thats a really good price on flat panel screens." and later that day went to purchase one of those screens for himself. It rang up for $99
Re:Privacy advocates are going overboard... (Score:2)
You gloss over one of the major problems with the privacy debate here. How do you propose customers do this? No "privacy market" like you imply can develop in the current environment, because none of the prerequisites for a market has developed. People don't know what is being done with their data, don't realize how much value is being stolen from them (privacy-sensitive data is economicall
OK, here's how they work (Score:5, Informative)
The transmitter feeds an RF power amp with a sensitive ammeter in one of its power supply leads.
Now, when the tuned circuit is brought within range of the transmitter, it will pick up the signal. But that is all. A voltage will be induced across the system, and a current will flow, but they will be out of phase. When the voltage is at a peak, the current is nil, and vice versa. Recall that power = voltage * current, so there is no power. Bringing the tuned circuit into range of the transmitter will not affect the ammeter reading.
However, if you connect a resistance across the two ends of the tuned circuit, then the current across this resistance will be in phase with the voltage. Energy is now being changed from electromagnetic waves to heat. And, strictly in accordance with the first law of thermodynamics, the reading on the ammeter will go up. Reduce the resistance and it will go up more. Of course, the imperfect coupling from transmitter to receiver itself behaves like a big resistance, which effectively limits the power available for the receiver {and therefore the ammeter swing}.
Anyway, if we switch this resistance in and out of circuit, we can watch the ammeter moving in sympathy with the switching.
The RFID tag gets its power by rectifying the AC induced in the tuned circuit, and using this to charge a capacitor. This capacitor stores enough energy to allow the tag to miss a few cycles, because it unavoidably will as a consequence of how it works. The tag then switches on and off a transistor which sits across the bridge rectifier {a transistor only conducts in one direction} in accordance with a predefined pattern. When the transistor turns on, more power is drawn from the transmitter. {As a side effect, the voltage is pulled down and the RFID tag has to rely on the capacitor contents to keep in this state, remember how far through the sequence it is, and so forth; so this state lasts only a few cycles}. The transmitter can see, by measuring the supply current to the RF power amp, whether the transistor in the RFID tag is on or off.
The external RF field also provides a stable timing reference to the tag, because it can count cycles accurately and dead-reckon a few cycles when it has to.
So, we have a one-way communication from the RFID tag to the transmitter, even though the RFID tag has no power supply of its own. If the RFID tag is absent or high resistance, this is a zero. When the RFID tag goes low-resistance, the transmitter can see this as a one. This allows us to send a binary number from the RFID tag.
All the RFID tag does, once it comes into range of the transmitter, is continuously send out a series of zeros and ones by going low and high resistance. It is up to the transmitter to spot the resistance of the remote end.
It is also possible to send data to the RFID tag, by switching the RF field on and off. While this could be used for programming of tags with serial numbers {instead of laser etching as is currently done}, it would require the tag to have some sort of EEPROM or Flash memory. These devices currently have a high power demand making them unsuitable for operation on RF power alone, but recall Clarke's first law: When a scientist says something is possible they are usually right; when a scientist says something is impossible they are usually wrong. So it is almost certain that future RFID tags could be reprogrammable.
The canonical method for deactivating
Re:OK, here's how they work (Score:3, Informative)
It is also possible to send data to the RFID tag, by switching the RF field on and off. While this could be used for programming of tags with serial numbers {instead of laser etching as is currently done}, it would require the tag to have some sort of EEPROM or Flash memory. These devices currently have a high power demand making them unsuitable for operation on RF power alone
Actually, there are read/write RFID tags on the market now. They're more expensive than read-only tags, obviously.
Contactless s
Excellent for insurance (Score:2)
Not to mention tracing stolen couches.
I got burglared a month or two back, and ripped off by the insurance last week, and this is one application I could go for.
Presumably there will be a market in removing RFIDs from objects, but it's like serial numbers on cars and computers and mobile phones: do you really object that someone, somewhere, knows your taste in cars? For
thanks but no thanks (Score:2)
My Couch? (Score:3, Insightful)
Ooo... Couch... (Score:2)
Defense Department? (Score:2)
The Defense Department?? What did I miss?
long range rfid (Score:3, Informative)
The longest range I know of on RFID (I write code for a company that implements wireless solutions, mostly in warehouses) is almost 20 ft. And that's at very high frequencies (14MHz, with active tags (they're quite a bit more expensive) and using lots of power (up to 60w). Texas Instruments [ti.com] makes a decent one, but so do the likes of Brady, Symbol, etc... This is nothing new...
Besides, they're just tags. Removable. If you think someone is going to be watching your purchased items, throw the tag away. Fairly simple really.
But if you have no cell phone, wear aluminum hats, etc... you could always make your own furniture...
You know what I'm sick of? (Score:2)
Try to microwave your couch. (Score:2)
Bad idea: the metal springs overheat, and scorch the stuffing. Always use a conventional oven when cooking your couch!
Modest Propsal 2.0 (Score:2)
My new (patent pending) solution is the drive through RFID wash. Take your ordinary car wash, remove the hoses brush and crap. Install lead shielding and an EMP generator [army.mil]. Put your tires, sofa and clothing on the cart and when it emerges from the other end no more peskey RFIDs.
I can see a market for a Home EMP Kit [laboratory.ru] as well. (The warning label reads, "Do not use near TVs, Computers, Pets, or Reproductive Organs".
SD
Good out weighs the bad but... (Score:2)
I think this means th
C&C: Zero Hour (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:Who cares? (Score:5, Funny)
That's because you don't understand the dangers. The knee jerk reaction to this type of story is to worry about "big brother", government spooks, or whatever. But that's not where the danger lies...
What you do is becoming more and more traceable. Every telephone call you make on a mobile phone, for instance, is logged and traceable back to you. Don't need to worry about this because you're not paranoid? Think again. You see, it's not the government you need to worry about. It's your wife or girlfriend!
Sometime in the near future...
Wifie: Hey, I brought one of those personal stuff locators today, you know, the ones that locate stuff by RFID tags?
Nervous husband: Oh, erm. That will be useful...
Wifie: Yes, very useful. I found a large heap of pornographic magazines on top of the wardrobe...
Nervous husband: Oh! Erm... That's...
Wifie: And why do you keep condoms hidden in the back of your washbag? I'm on the pill. The machine says they were purchased only last week.
Nervous husband: Ah! Now then... I. Erm...
I'm guessing you're not paranoid because you're not married or you don't have a long term girlfriend. You will be...
Re:Who cares? (Score:5, Insightful)
But what is worrying is when information about you is used in ways to control your behaviour. For instance, if you are thinking about quitting smoking and purchase the patches to help with the cravings. Those interested will track your movements along with the movements of other "quitters" to place smoking triggers along your path to make it that much hard for you to shake the habit.
Perhaps you're a person who has bought a lottery ticket or two. Suddenly you're flooded with all kinds of gambling offers. Sure, you can say no to their offers, but what will others think when they see you getting that barage of junk mail to visit all those cassinos? What will your boss think when they start sending those offers to your office?
Most of us live lives of moderation. We like to take in occasional vices, but we mostly try to keep things pretty mundane. But this isn't allowed in the corperate world. They have to seek out potentially new exploits to justify getting an MBA. Any information that they can get will allow them to find a wedge between you and your better judgement.
I know, I know... You're too smart for their tactics. You're in control of your own destiny. It doesn't bother you when they mercilessly pick away at you. You're just content to sit back in your recliner watching "Matlock" re-runs on cable.
The sad part is, people don't see any value in privacy, because they don't realize the benefits it allows. Being anonymous allows you to have your turn next in line, and receive the same amount of respect as a person who is twice as affluent as your are. Once your personal worth is on the table with everyone else's, your value in society has just been broadcasted, and you will wait until those more worthy have been served no matter how long you've been waiting. You may never be served at that rate...
Oh, but you'll just head on to their competitors, right? Think again. They bought the same list. They also know that you'll be more desperate than before since they knew where you were coming from... Now they can really ream your wallet *IF* they decide you're worth having as a customer.
Privacy also allows you to be forgiven for your past mistakes more easily. Who hasn't made a mistake or exercised poor judgement when they were more youthful? It's the foundation of experience, but if your subordinates know every detail, they aren't as likely to be as subordinate. How can you credibly jump on them for making the same mistakes you used to?
Privacy has a very real value for people in society. It's not just about dirty magazines or illicite affairs. It's about not having to worry what the score is every moment of your life. It about not having to be publicly humiliated at unexpected moments. It's about maintaining person dignity and self-respect.
If you don't have any respect for yourself to keep private things private, how can you expect anyone else to respect you as well?
MOD PARENT UP! (Score:2)
Re:Who cares? (Score:2)
Re:Who cares? (Score:2)
Mostly. If you care enough about your privacy, you buy a 'drug-dealer phone'. Cash payment, no contract.
Re:Higher Data Rates? (Score:4, Informative)
surely it'd be better if the washing machine could read the appropriate temperature etc. for the clothes rather than have to connect to some database? as well as being simpler and having less privacy concerns it would be more reliable as you aren't dependent on an external database being maintained just to look up a few properties of the product.
Why Higher Data Rates? (Score:2)
Becuase the tags are passive and dumb, the
kind of like (Score:2)
Yep... the mattress police... fear them.
Long-range scanning (Score:2)
And if the RFID go to higher frequencies, then proportionally smaller directional antennas would do the trick.
Re:Not portable? (Score:2)
As far as good uses for RFID after you bought something with a tag:
- Imagine your refridgerator knowing what you had in it, and how old it was. The same for your pantry.. and then applications where this data is used with a database to pull up recipes you can make with what you've got on hand.
- On the other side, trash cans that know what
Re:Forget destroying them, I'm more worried about. (Score:2)
1. they don't generate radiation except when scanned. and that's radio waves - hence Radio Frequency ID. how do you keep out all the "cancer-causing radiation" from radio stations at the moment? I'm sure the same method will work.
2. I'd be more worried about solar flares knocking out electricity grids and communication satellites than maybe breaking an RFID.
3. the usual way.
4. if you RTFA, they can put the tags in paper money so you're already screwed.
5. did som
Re:Forget destroying them, I'm more worried about. (Score:2)
I don't know what the situation is in the US, but definitely in some countries (such as New Zealand, where I am), it would at least take an act of legislation for that to happen.
One of the legal requirements here, as I understand it, is that if you're running a business and you place a monetary price on an item or service, you're legally required to accept paper cas
Re:Forget destroying them, I'm more worried about. (Score:2)
Re:RFIDs hidden in new cars. US federal initiative (Score:2)
Re:RFIDs hidden in new cars. US federal initiative (Score:2)
It's not necessary to record your license plate when you have new tires installed. However, Customs can read the tags in the tires, and associate them with the plate on a particular car. If you change the plate on the car (so it looks like a different car is coming back over the border and not as if the same car is coming back from making a drug pickup), Customs will note now that the plate on the car does not match what they recorded earlier r
Re:RFIDs hidden in new cars. US federal initiative (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:RFIDs hidden in new cars. US federal initiative (Score:2)
I don't think they FBI would even need to use secrecy. I think the technology will become so mundane that people will ignore it to the point that it becomes commonplace and done for patriot act like "security reasons".
I wouldn't put anything past Ashcroft, who has access to anybody's library records through the p
Re:RFIDs hidden in new cars. US federal initiative (Score:2)
Re:Knee-jerk Alarmists (Score:2)
A co-worker of mine, on AZT for AIDS, had this fact sold to marketers by his Pharmacist...about 2 weeks after he had his first perscription filled, he
Re:Knee-jerk Alarmists (Score:2)
If I stuck a tracking device on your car and sold the information to anyone who asked would you accept that? But its the same thing.
There's simply no reason the consumer should tolerate the down side of this thing, since there's no upside for them.
No it won't let you go through the checkout faster, because not everything in your basket will have a tag (Lettuce?, how many
Re:Cut them up. Beat them with a hammer (Score:2)