China Will Drop the Great Firewall For Some Users To Boost Free-Trade Port Ambitions (scmp.com) 48
China's southernmost province of Hainan is piloting a programme to grant select corporate users broad access to the global internet, a rare move in a country known for having some of the world's most restrictive online censorship, as the island seeks to transform itself into a global free-trade port. From a report: Employees of companies registered and operating in Hainan can apply for the "Global Connect" mobile service through the Hainan International Data Comprehensive Service Centre (HIDCSC), according to the agency, which is overseen by the state-run Hainan Big Data Development Centre.
The programme allows eligible users to bypass the so-called Great Firewall, which blocks access to many of the world's most-visited websites, such as Google and Wikipedia. Applicants must be on a 5G plan with one of the country's three major state-backed carriers -- China Mobile, China Unicom or China Telecom -- and submit their employer's information, including the company's Unified Social Credit Code, for approval. The process can take up to five months, HIDCSC staff said.
The programme allows eligible users to bypass the so-called Great Firewall, which blocks access to many of the world's most-visited websites, such as Google and Wikipedia. Applicants must be on a 5G plan with one of the country's three major state-backed carriers -- China Mobile, China Unicom or China Telecom -- and submit their employer's information, including the company's Unified Social Credit Code, for approval. The process can take up to five months, HIDCSC staff said.
Rules for thee, but not for me. (Score:1)
n/t
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That is way too complicated a sentence for most voters let alone the average American.
It happens to all empires. They all amass huge gains from hard and soft power allowing for extremely cheap imports which in turn result in immense quality of life gains for it citizens, but as things settle and the decades go by, newer governmental generations don't understand what, exactly, those expenses are for, and start seeing them as just that, expenses, nothing more. So they cut back on what they see as useless fat, and next thing you know, they're falling and someone else is grabbing all that power
Seize the currency? [Re:It's Trump] (Score:2)
...Meanwhile at the rate we are going the American dollar is going to seize being the world's reserve currency
Cease.
"Seize" gives a completely different meaning!
Did you post this with voice recognition?
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There's isolationism and there's economic independence. I'm seeing Trump trying to gain economic independence because that puts the USA in a better position should China, Russia, and a handful of other smaller and similarly minded nations gang up on the USA and its allies.
When the USA was buying a lot of foreign oil in the 1970s this opened up the USA to economic warfare from OPEC. In 1978 the USA was getting 16.5% of its electricity from petroleum, five years later in 1983 it was 5%. The difference was
Re: It's Trump (Score:2)
>I guess it really is too much to expect for folks to understand that we leverage the national debt and our military in order to prop up the US dollar so that we can have trillions of dollars of imports for a fraction of their actual real world value thereby increasing the standard of living of the average American by leaps and bounds.
Fuck you that's a stupid way to do things. It's completely unsustainable.
Dude everything about everything (Score:2)
After November and the complete clusterfuk that followed I don't have any faith left in humanity. We made a pedophile president of America twice. Twice.
Honestly I just want the dipshits that I know are on this forum that made all this misery happen to understand that they are well and truly fucked.
I don't expect us to do anything sane or intelligent anymore. That ship sailed when I woke up and checked the election results.
What I expect is a
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In our world is completely unsustainable and a mess.
Nah, that's just you.
Honestly I just want the dipshits that I know are on this forum that made all this misery happen to understand that they are well and truly fucked.
Nah, that's just you.
I don't expect us to do anything sane or intelligent anymore. That ship sailed when I woke up and checked the election results.
When have you ever done anything sane or intelligent?
What I expect is a whole bunch of dipshits panicking
Instead, you're the only dipshit panicking right now.
I could explain how we need to start moving towards a socialist civilization because ai and automation have already devastated the middle class job market.
If you really believe that, then why aren't you in Cuba already? They guarantee you a right to a job, so go take the job that's over there waiting for you.
And I lost. We all did. It's over it's finished it's done we screwed up and there is absolutely no recovering from this mess.
Nah, that's just you.
And so I'm going to ride it out until eventually I get replaced by an AI and run out of savings and then probably check out. Because as an American the one and only thing I get to decide is when I get to leave this wretched Rock.
It sounds like you're already in the despair phase. The next step is to commit sudoku. Don't forget your free palestine sticker.
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China is moving to take over America's place in the world thanks to Trump
That effort began waaaay before Trump had even the slightest notion of running for POTUS. You were born 20 years before I was, how the fuck did you go so long without knowing that by now?
Another idea (Score:3)
If they drop the whole CCP thing and murder their ruling class in the streets, we'd all probably do business with them again. Maybe even to the point where we flee our oligarch hell-holes in pursuit of a better life.
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The sanctions and all other stuff relating to China from "the west" are not because of the CCP or human rights. In geopolitics and geoeconomics these are just the excuses to keep the uninformed masses happy.
The sanctions are there because China is becoming a threat to the power of "the west"; nothing more, nothing less.
Whenever some politician starts talking about "human rights violations", "it's for the children", "corruption", or "to combat terrorism", THAT's when you should be starting scratching your he
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That is a half-truth. China is 100% guilty of everything they are accused of, and more. That's not proaganda.
But yes, we've given them too much money and allowed their fetid mass of government to be a threat. There is propaganda sold to the west by our own oligarchs, with the notion that by allowing them to exploit the cheap labor market of China, we would all be uplifted into the intellectual and cultural elite. Obviously that doesn't work, toilets need cleaning too. However by our having invested so much
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China's economy grew by 5.2% last year. Not as much as some other years, but still way ahead of what European and North American nations managed.
The people aren't going to rebel, or even feel particularly unhappy about their government, as long things keep improving economically for them.
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Glass houses, stones and the act of throwing?
Don't they already do this? (Score:2)
Don't they already do this? I worked for an American Fortune 10 company in China, and we had complete access to the corporate network, which included access to everything except sites that were corporately blocked, such as newly registered personal domain names. Everyone had access to Google, Youtube, Tiananmen information, and everything.
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I imagine they look the other way when foreign companies operate VPNs that wormhole to the open internet at the other end. American companies' presence greatly benefits them. I imagine the workers in those buildings are, if not Americans, frequently traveling to America and being exposed to the normal internet there. And so, already lost causes.
Surely they recognize that you can't completely block information from the outside world. They just need to block enough of it, for enough people, enough of the time
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They didn't crack down on VPN use among businesses until like two years ago.
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Yes, it's been going on since the very start of the Great Firewall.
Firstly it has different rules in different places. Shenzhen is much more permissive than most places, for example, because tech companies there need to interact with Western customers and need to develop products for those markets, meaning products that support banned services like Google and Facebook.
Multinational corporations are allowed to have VPN access outside of China too, which opens everything up.
People misunderstand what the goal
No free access to the internet, no TikTok in here (Score:4)
Ban TENU and Alibaba from Western consumers etc etc.
Yesterday was the anniversary of the Tiananmen Square massacre when unnumbered thousands were killed. It is very sad that it gets zero attention in the wider world; one might almost suspect that Western elites prefer to make money. Funny that.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... [wikipedia.org]
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Don't you think they would have printed photographs (at the time, obviously such purported photos today would be worthless) if they had on-the-ground intelligence?
You mean, like this one? https://img.nzz.ch/2022/10/26/... [img.nzz.ch] ?
Or this one? https://hips.hearstapps.com/hm... [hearstapps.com]
Getty Images has a file: https://www.gettyimages.com/ph... [gettyimages.com]
Don't stop at the first page, go down to the bottom and click next; there are 46 pages of images.
Great post (Score:2)
Thank you
Does the MSS pay well? (Score:2)
Sad to think of any other excuse for your appalling post. My thanks to XXongo for the total demolition below.
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There have been releases of cables of western diplomats who were in Beijing that day and while the army did crush the protests and some people died, it's not as if they reported there had been a wholesale massacre.
You mean like this?
https://www.independent.co.uk/... [independent.co.uk]
Put it another way, how do you know what happened that day?
Well, a lot of western journalists were there watching it unfold. Including the guy who smuggled the tank man video out of the country by hiding it in the toilet when the CCP came searching his hotel room after they saw him filming it.
Because the CIA said so? What makes you think they are telling the truth?
Well....the CCP did admit to killing at least 300.
Don't you think they would have printed photographs (at the time, obviously such purported photos today would be worthless) if they had on-the-ground intelligence?
You mean like this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?... [youtube.com]
Yes there was a column of tanks. Yes there was a brave man who stood in the way of the tanks. That doesn't equate to a mass slaughter. Do you recognize the anniversary of the Kent State shootings?
Whatever helps you sleep at night, Winnie boy. Just remember, Mr. The Pooh really doesn't give a shit about you.
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It is very sad that it gets zero attention in the wider world; one might almost suspect that Western elites prefer to make money. Funny that.
What is the point? And why do you focus on this one in particular? Massacres throughout history have been dime a dozen. Do you call them all out on their anniversary days while calling for the banning of specific companies? I'm just genuinely curious as to what you are trying to achieve. The world is loaded up with oppressed people and yet the primary atrocities called
Holding successors accountable (Score:2)
A great question, thank you for making me think.
The answer lies in the degree to which the present government continues to hide the truth or endorse the action. To that extent they continue to be guilty of crime to some extent. The contrast lies in the persistent guilt generation of US liberals over the evils of slavery; it's over, almost noone still endorses it and certainly not in public. The scary thing about Russia is that it seems to be working to rehabilitate Stalin
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/vid... [bbc.co.uk]
whi
Not sure how new this is (Score:2)
Five months (Score:2)
The process can take up to five months, HIDCSC staff said.
How long to hook up a Starlink dish?
how does it go? (Score:2)
Rules for thee but not for me?