US Security Agencies Halt Coordinated Effort to Counter Russian Sabotage and Cyberattacks (yahoo.com) 146
Reuters reported this week that several U.S. national security agencies "have halted work on a coordinated effort to counter Russian sabotage, disinformation and cyberattacks..."
The plan was led by the president's National Security Council (NSC) and involved at least seven national security agencies working with European allies to disrupt plots targeting Europe and the United States, seven former officials who participated in the working groups told Reuters... [S]ince Trump took office on January 20 much of the work has come to a standstill, according to eleven current and former officials, all of whom requested anonymity to discuss classified matters... Regular meetings between the National Security Council and European national security officials have gone unscheduled, and the NSC has also stopped formally coordinating efforts across U.S. agencies...
The FBI last month ended an effort to counter interference in U.S. elections by foreign adversaries including Russia and put on leave staff working on the issue at the Department of Homeland Security. The Department of Justice also disbanded a team that seized the assets of Russian oligarchs... Department of Homeland Security Assistant Secretary Tricia McLaughlin told Reuters the agency had placed on administrative leave personnel working on misinformation and disinformation on its election security team, without elaborating further.
The FBI last month ended an effort to counter interference in U.S. elections by foreign adversaries including Russia and put on leave staff working on the issue at the Department of Homeland Security. The Department of Justice also disbanded a team that seized the assets of Russian oligarchs... Department of Homeland Security Assistant Secretary Tricia McLaughlin told Reuters the agency had placed on administrative leave personnel working on misinformation and disinformation on its election security team, without elaborating further.
MAGA? (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:MAGA? (Score:5, Insightful)
Narrator: "But the purpose wasn't to serve American greatness â" that wasn't the reason at all."
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Not really because I’m not in a cult.
Re: MAGA? (Score:3)
Were you brainwashed by maga or putin?
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That's a distinction without a difference at this point.
Re:MA [Clone] A? (Score:2)
Rather vacuous Subject, but the story feels pretty vacuous, too, so maybe it was a better match than my attempted joke?
It isn't about "greatness". That's just a sales pitch for the suckers. It's mostly about the money, but it's hard to tell because the YOB is such a terrible puppet and there are too many puppeteers plucking at various strings. A good puppet is easy to control, but no one knows which way the YOB will flop next. Yes, some of the puppeteers are after more money, but others are pulling strings
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Is anyone else as puzzled as I am about how this is supposed to be serving American greatness?
He's just trying to show Putin and Russia some well-deserved compassion, because, as Trump has said many times, Putin, like him, has been treated very unfairly. He even noted in his meeting [theatlantic.com] with Zelenskyy:
Let me tell you, Putin went through a hell of a lot with me. He went through a phony witch hunt, where they used him and Russia. Russia, Russia, Russia, you ever hear of that deal?
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It isn't going to serve anyones greatness, it's just going to make the future world look like an autocracy.
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And Trump and Putin are very similar.
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Is anyone else as puzzled as I am about how this is supposed to be serving American greatness?
No, because if it actually becomes a thing people care about, the Trumpers will just lie about it and the MAGAheads will believe the lies. You would not believe the crap I see constantly on Facebook from MAGAheads. One college fraternity brother seems to have completely lost his mind and among other things believes that Ukrainian president Zelenskyy was "put into place by the CIA under Obama" despite being elected president in 2019 during Trump's first term. Another guy I konw retweeted some crap RFK
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Re:MAGA? (Score:5, Insightful)
The claim that Zelenskyy is some sort of CIA puppet is, of course, false; but even if it were true that would essentially just make the situation in Ukraine a proxy war of the sort that the guys sneaking stinger missiles into Afghanistan back during the Soviet era would have given a kidney for: Massive Russian losses in men and materiel, a more or less complete humiliation for claims that post-soviet Russian military hardware is anywhere near as credible as advertised; and Europe goes from losing interest in NATO to forming an eager line and banging on the door. All that for a relative pittance in military aid, including a lot of stuff we were just waiting to age out in storage.
From a 'MAGA' perspective that seems like an absurdly good deal.
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'Cause that's the only answer to "what would traitors do differently if the trumpists aren't all traitors:" do a better job hiding it.
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you mean MRGA
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You're equating "American" with "American Citizens". Trump's "America" is "Billionaires and himself"
It's always been about making Trump and his cronies great again. If Putin gives Trump money and other stuff, then stuff that hurts Putin has got to go.
If you can't afford the Platinum Card, you're not American.
Serious question here (Score:4, Interesting)
How successful were they?
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How would we know?
Unless there are independent press reports we either have to take US/Allied Intelligence ("Works Great!") or Russian ("Works bad!")
What would a Russian asset do different? (Score:5, Insightful)
Seriously, what would a literal Russian asset do that's different from what Trump is doing?
It doesn't matter whether he's on their payroll, just an enthusiastic supporter, or a convenient idiot, tell me what he would be doing differently? Cozying up to Russia and parroting their propaganda, talking about removing sanctions, blaming Ukraine for a war Russia started, standing down our offensive AND defensive cybersecurity programs- it's like a bad joke. And for some reason half the country is still cheering him on- it boggles the mind.
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Cause he's going to make Murica great again. What's there to understand, no more gays, no more immigrants, great jobs for everyone and we're gonna really stick it to the rest of the world. Plus we'll own Greenland.
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Also- he has a bridge for sale...
Re:What would a Russian asset do different? (Score:5, Insightful)
Also- he has a bridge for sale...
Wait. Let's back up to the 2024 pre-election times. DJ Trump was primarily motivated by keeping his ass out of jail until he died, not to mention all the power, greed, and retribution against those that dared to oppose him. DJ Trump happened to win his freedom by us electing him from his many, many serious crimes and now we're all paying the price.
Re: What would a Russian asset do different? (Score:2)
And, a fighter jet named after him
Re:What would a Russian asset do different? (Score:4, Funny)
It's in Gaza
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Also- he has a bridge for sale...
Infrastructure? That sounds like some liberal woke plot to indoctrinate our kids.
Re:What would a Russian asset do different? (Score:5, Insightful)
This is what I keep saying. He's giving aid and comfort to the nation's enemy, which is the constitutional definition of treason. If it were "just" a matter of siding with Russia against Ukraine, or even of giving classified intelligence to Putin, you could argue it might somehow be justified as conducting foreign policy. But ordering the government to stop defending against Russian cyberattacks goes several steps too far. There is no possible universe in which ordering the government to stop defending against ongoing attacks is not treason.
It's as if Benedict Arnold had not just given military secrets to the British, but had actually ordered the soldiers under him to stop defending against British attacks or even telling anyone when they happened.
Re: What would a Russian asset do different? (Score:5, Interesting)
The only conclusion I can draw that makes any of this make any sense (besides trump and maga simply being too stupid/insane to even realize what they're doing, which is definitely a possibility) is that trump wants to turn the US into the axis, to actually become the enemy. What if he allied the US with Russia and against NATO and EU? Is it treason if you stop defending against allies?
He's attacking allies and defending enemies so it sure seems like he wants to be what the US typically considers the enemy.
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This is what I keep saying. He's giving aid and comfort to the nation's enemy, which is the constitutional definition of treason.
An enemy is a nation or other actor you're at war with. The USA has a complicated relationship with Russia (to put it mildly) but currently the two nations are not at war. In fact, the USA is not at war with any nation currently. Therefore, nobody can be charged or convicted of treason.
I was more curious whether this suspension of defense against Russian cyberattacks is a violation of Trump's presidential oath. To my surprise, I learned there's no mention in the presidential oath about defending the constit
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An enemy is a nation or other actor you're at war with. The USA has a complicated relationship with Russia (to put it mildly) but currently the two nations are not at war. In fact, the USA is not at war with any nation currently. Therefore, nobody can be charged or convicted of treason.
Hundreds of people were just sent to a prison camp in El Salvador without any due process using a law that required the US to be either at war with Venezuela or having been invaded by Venezuela.
Given precedent set by the Trump administration there is no need for anyone to sweat little details and split hairs about inconvenient technicalities.
One solution is to retroactively declare the Jamaica Hospital where Trump was born to be Jamaican territory and claim Jamaica is invading the US then use the Alien Enem
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Hundreds of people were just sent to a prison camp in El Salvador without any due process using a law that required the US to be either at war with Venezuela or having been invaded by Venezuela.
Given precedent set by the Trump administration there is no need for anyone to sweat little details and split hairs about inconvenient technicalities.
Trump cannot declare war unilaterally. Congress needs to do that. Has Congress declared war on El Salvador or Venezuela? (They're two separate countries BTW.)
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Trump cannot declare war unilaterally.
Requirement for declared war is not required in either treason or alien enemies contexts. In terms of constitutions treason definition "enemy" is by no means limited to a formal declarations of war. In terms of alien enemies - invasion or predatory incursion works just as well as a declaration of war.
Has Congress declared war on El Salvador or Venezuela? (They're two separate countries BTW.)
Venezuela is the "invading" country and El Salvador is the country where the prison unencumbered by due process is located.
Re:What would a Russian asset do different? (Score:5, Informative)
You and I can go back and forth on this. IANAL and I don't think you are either.
But a federal judge disagreed with the President's use of the Alien Enemies Act to deport the Venezuelans, and ordered the plane carrying them to be turned around. [npr.org] Of course, it wasn't.
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Enemy is not defined exclusively by a war. Cold war lasted decades, was not declared. Leadership and institutions of the sides were well in the know of the enemy. Now, somehow, one side touts friendship and praise, while other proceeds with the brutal aggression against ally of the first. Enough of this bending.
Re: What would a Russian asset do different? (Score:2)
The US didn't charge anyone with treason for activities that took place during the Cold War. Even Aldrich Ames and Robert Hanssen didn't get treason charges despite inflicting catastrophic damage to US intelligence efforts.
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Re: What would a Russian asset do different? (Score:3)
Almost no one anywhere declares war anymore because declared wars trigger webs of complicated responses. Since the end of WW2, there have been only eight declared wars:
- The Arab-Israeli War in 1948
- Mauritania declared war on Israel during the Six-Day War as a show of support for the Arab League
- The Ogaden War between Somalia and Ethiopia in 1977-1978
- The Uganda-Tanzania War in 1978-1979
- The Iran-Iraq War from 1980-1988
- The Anglophone Crisis in Cameroon against a breakaway state in 2017
- The Second Wes
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An enemy is a nation or other actor you're at war with. The USA has a complicated relationship with Russia (to put it mildly) but currently the two nations are not at war. In fact, the USA is not at war with any nation currently. Therefore, nobody can be charged or convicted of treason.
Legally, you're correct. Politically, the US was (until very recently) engaged in a de-facto proxy war with Russia in the Ukraine.
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Sovereignty and integrity of Ukraine do not foresee participation of ruZZia in any other manner, than respecting them. Signed by the parties of Budapest Memorandum. One having turned to be brutal aggressor instead, as of today. Core problem.
Now, if multitude of countries, given lessons of the past, seek to be members of some defensive organization, this does not immediately place them into some proxy war scheme - unless they would have been active to intrude integrity and sovereignty of some other party. No
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Are we discussing right here ceasing to resist ruZZian activities against USA? You don't see them as neutral or friendly, right?
Given, that for centuries ruZZia was the main actor interfering with the USA in policies and activities, there is no actual ground to even expect future friendliness, unless USA is ruined, and deprived of its former self. Relations can be approaching neutral at the very best. OTOH, there are parties of Budapest Memorandum, obliged to politically respect and serve integrity of the U
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This is what I keep saying. He's giving aid and comfort to the nation's enemy, which is the constitutional definition of treason. If it were "just" a matter of siding with Russia against Ukraine, or even of giving classified intelligence to Putin, you could argue it might somehow be justified as conducting foreign policy. But ordering the government to stop defending against Russian cyberattacks goes several steps too far. There is no possible universe in which ordering the government to stop defending against ongoing attacks is not treason.
It's as if Benedict Arnold had not just given military secrets to the British, but had actually ordered the soldiers under him to stop defending against British attacks or even telling anyone when they happened.
A literal Russian asset would be more discreet.
That's how the actual Russian assets got confirmed to be the heads of the various agencies that no longer want to do their jobs.
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Only a couple of those agency heads are actual Russian assets. The rest are maggot assets, chosen by the Lepre-Con Man because they were the worst people for the job.
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The Orange Traitor is too dumb to even try, and what's absolutely terrifying is that the entirety of the Republican Crime Party and the "mainstream" media bends over backward to normalize [gesticulates] all this.
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Seriously, what would a literal Russian asset do that's different from what Trump is doing?
Surely a literal Russian asset wouldn't be so obvious about it.
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It would be completely different: he would have a beard.
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The DHS had all of their advisory boards gutted earlier this year, including the CSRB. Without the private industry contacts in the CSRB, the people working to fight russian hackers can't effectively do their jobs, possibly to a level where they can't do anything at all. This story itself is an information / disinformation / misinformation campaign to influence us and the government to re-instate in some form the public / private cybersecurity partnerships that were formerly at DHS.
Re: will you obey? (Score:2)
The courts have started pushing back, and the administration is complying where they're unable to string out or play with the decisions. And they're quickly running out of room to do that, as the judges are catching on to their methods and closing any real or perceived loopholes in their decisions. One judge wrote a 137-page decision for a temporary restraining order, not only ripping apart the government's position but taking pains to close out every opening she could find for the government to slip past i
yuri bezmenov was right (Score:5, Informative)
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Thank you for that video - I hadn't seen it before - yes he was!!
I recommend all to watch this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?... [youtube.com]
The Russian asset is earning his bribes (Score:5, Insightful)
There is no legitimate reason for this to take place OTHER than the Russian asset in the White House appeasing his Russian master. None. This allows Russia to conduct unhindered attacks on our country and allies.
This is in conunction with the administration stopping any further investigation of Russian war crimes [bbc.com], no longer seizing assets of Russian oligarchs [apnews.com] who are under sanctions, and stopped funding a program to track down Ukrainian children who were kidnapped by Russia [npr.org].
Anyone who doesn't believe Trump is a Russian asset and is doing the bidding of Putin is willfully blind.
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Is it really down to bribes? My theory is that he visited Russia many years ago and that a video exists of him fucking a goat, it may not have been a goat but the "video" part is looking more and more likely by the week.
Re:The Russian asset is earning his bribes (Score:5, Interesting)
I think a big part of it is simply Trump is an old (very old) school great powers guy.
Russia took Ukrainian territory and they are a great power, great powers use force to expand borders therefore Russia de facto gets to keep what they took, because they took it. He starts with assumption that already taken territory is settled business, all his negotiations start from that idea he really just won't say it super explicitly because that's his method to dance around uncomfortable topics and is hoping to rush a peace agreement before it settles in what is actually happening.
He doesn't actually believe in a rules based international order. Like has been mentioned here Russian asset or not doesn't matter, the actions are indistinguishable.
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Personally, I think it's not bribes but threats. Possibly along the lines of "Live up to the deal we made or else!", but possibly there wasn't any deal.
Re:The Russian asset is earning his bribes (Score:5, Interesting)
I'd think an 'Epstein Special' is far more likely. Miss Teen USA contestants (by definition, under 18) complained that Trump, after buying the pageant, would come into their changing room and stare at them. This has gotten lost against things like pictures of him arm in arm with Epstein and all the other shit he's pulled. Maybe that's the point?
Re: The Russian asset is earning his bribes (Score:5, Interesting)
He also contended in the same interview that Trump and Melania first had sex on Epstein's "Lolita Express" plane.
Yet just a few weeks ago, I heard contentions from multiple people that Pam Bondi's eventual nothingburger of a release of "the Epstein files" at the behest of a supposedly heroic "everyman" Trump was going to blow the lid off of annimagined cabal of liberal pedophiles who who made up Epstein's circle, as if he based his social relationships on something as quotidian and meaningless to the hyper-rich as political party membership.
Epstein was filthy stinkin' rich and powerful, and he liked to hang out with other people who were filthy stinkin' rich and powerful, regardless of their avowed politics.
The filthy stinkin' rich and powerful are the real enemies of the vast majority of Americans, and for that matter, of most people, Russians, too. That's because in order to become and stay as rich and powerful as they do, it's more or less a prerequisite that they have to be sociopaths willing to mercilessly exploit those outside their little club, be it financially or sexually, and they are smart enough to know that associating with others like themselves is the most effective and efficient way to pull off their outrages.
Birds of a feather and all.
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Donald was a high-profile American businessman staying in a Moscow hotel. One hundred percent the KGB (or GRU, same diff) have a tape of it.
The only question is whether it's him falling asleep watching the golf channel, him demanding a bunch of escorts pee on the bed the Obamas slept in, or him violently raping a twelve year old the way he raped Maria.
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Considering that nothing seems to stick to him, it would have to be some very very very bad to get him to comply. I doubt a video of him have sex with someone underage would be bad enough to worry him. Perhaps if it were a trans person maybe but his base forgives (or justifies) anything he does...
Re: The Russian asset is earning his bribes (Score:2)
It is a fact. After the video was made, the goat became head of a powerful secret society that installs leaders worldwide. They have been holding the Trump video over his head ever since.
Re:The Russian asset is earning his bribes (Score:5, Informative)
Why don't you start with actually "debunking" something. OP has provided claimed supporting documentation. It's your turn to make an offer of proof. This is how things work outside the Trump bubble.
Re:The Russian asset is earning his bribes (Score:5, Insightful)
This is how things work outside the Trump bubble.
Well, see, there's your first problem...
Re: The Russian asset is earning his bribes (Score:2)
There is lots and lots of evidence that Trump is a Russian asset and you are ignoring it, then accusing others of ignoring reality. That's gaslighting.
Re: The Russian asset is earning his bribes (Score:2)
Trump isn't a Russian agent, but he is very likely a Russian asset. An agent is one who acts on behalf of another at their direction, and Trump isn't quite that. An asset is one who provides information, services, or influence for another, whether controlled directly through payments or other tangible benefits or indirectly through manipulation, and Trump is very much in the latter camp. Those controlled through manipulation are often preferred because they may not even know it's happening. Trump is convinc
Treason trials (Score:3, Interesting)
So looking forward to the treason trials once sane people are voted back in charge.
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Unfortunately not treason according to the constitution. The Rosenbergs weren’t even charged with treason.
Re:Treason trials (Score:5, Informative)
Unfortunately not treason according to the constitution
"Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States."
I mean, telling our law enforcement to ignore Russian attempts to interfere with US elections sure seems like aiding the enemy.
The Rosenbergs weren’t even charged with treason.
No they were charged, convicted, and executed for spying.
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We aren't officially at war with Russia. They aren't officially the enemy. You really need to get 2/3 of the Senate to declare that we're at war with Russia for Trump to be committing treason.
Malfeasance, though. That should be a slam-dunk.
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I was just about to say that we weren't at war with the USSR in the 50's and the Rosenbergs were executed. But that's why they were charged with spying and not treason.
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Well then you yourself concede that nobody can be charged with treason at the moment. There goes the premise you started with in your OP.
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Plenty of other crimes to prosecute.
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So looking forward to the treason trials once sane people are voted back in charge.
Sadly, U.S. Presidents are now immune from criminal prosecution for any official acts done in office. Thanks SCOTUS for inventing that - for him. /s
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That's not technically true. The conservatives in SCOTUS took the power upon themselves to determine what an "official act" is.
Re:Treason trials (Score:5, Insightful)
That is technically true but Roberts kinda invented the whole concept of what is official and unofficial and the courts role in it from wholecloth, the whole concept was never codified before that case.
So far nobody I have run across has given a satisfactory answer to the "Navy Seal Question" brought up in dissent; if the President is CoC of the military and he horders his political opponent taken out by Seal Team 6 since he consider them a national security threat, is that an official act subject to review and why? Military command is under "core" powers.
Under Roberts rules we (the press, the people, the courts) aren't even allowed to investigate whether it is or not, it's assumed.
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That's the funny thing about our laws and our government. The entire reason President Turd can just ignore court orders right now is because there is no one who wants to check that power he has grabbed for himself. If we can elected the Democrats back into power in 2026, then they have full authority to investigate him....and impeach/convict him if there were sufficient support in the Senate. SCOTUS can't do shit about that.
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Yup the Trump admin's view on separation of powers is "we are separate so nobody can check our power" and with not just a minority in Congress but the current crop of Senators are just mostly spineless we are relying on the courts who are imo doing a surprising job of it. I really really support the courts start issuing bench warrants through the US Marshals for the defiance of orders.
And SCOTUS did say the remedy here ultimately is impeachment so I do want the Democrats, if they can get some power back, t
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Preach
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As I'm sure you know, impeachment is only the start of the process. You still need to get a conviction in the senate with a 2/3 majority. Unfortunately I don't see such a supermajority now or in the future.
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Sorry, when I say impeachment in my brain I mean both portions of it including the trial, i should clarify that. I consider them linked since it's not a "trial" like when we think of trial casually.
I guess it's also becasue if you just get impeached in the House it seems like it doesn't really matter anymore unless you get that 2/3. Trump got "impeached" twice and all he got was a winning re-election.
I agree we won't see a 61 Senate majority in our lives again much less 67 and I think we both know it'll be
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IMHO, right now support for Trump from Republicans is driven by careerism. And that support could disappear if polls show Trump is leading them to losses at the ballot box.
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And remember - this was explicitly pointed out to the treasonous clowns in the majority and they still declared the President to be King, because conservatives in America have straight up turned
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Re: Treason trials (Score:2)
He won't live that long anyway
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He won't live that long anyway
Fingers crossed, except then there's Vance - and then, at least until 2026, Johnson.
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On the flip side, because the Supreme Court says the president can not be charged for doing things in an official capacity, the next president could just go to Trump and execute him as an official act.
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So looking forward to the treason trials once sane people are voted back in charge.
Don't hold your breath for trials, or voting. Dictatorship is a one-way process.
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So I'm curious how you think this plays out. How exactly does this administration stop elections? What legal framework do you think allows them to do this? And if you are just going to say that they don't care about the laws, OK so how are they pulling this off without pretty much throwing the US into a civil war? Or how do they stop the military from intervening in an obvious insurrection? They are all sworn to uphold the Constitution.
U.S.S.A. (Score:2)
United Soviet States of America.
Suck that Russian cock, Trump. Suck it well.
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Suck that dick
You Russian bootlick
Now that Trump is back
He worships Putin's crack
Danish solution (Score:3)
I'm old enough to remember a candidate for Danish government running on a platform of replacing the Danish military with a tape recording saying, "we surrender" in Russian.
But who woulda thought the USAs President would be surrenduring to the Russians straight off.
He is, but we don't.
Trump is owned by Russia (Score:5, Informative)
Poor old America
Re:Trump is owned by Russia (Score:5, Insightful)
Every day, every outrage, every speech, makes it clearer that Putin has something on Trump.
I think the reality is far stupider than that. I think Trump is a fanboi.
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I think the reality is far stupider than that. I think Trump is a fanboi.
I think it's both. Trump loves raw power, and if Putin has found a way to gain power over Trump, that is what Trump admires most about Putin. It's a fetish.
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Total disaster (Score:5, Insightful)
If you ever needed more proof (Score:3)
And cockbites on Slashdot will continue to insist (Score:2)
that Trump isn't a Russian asset.
Not a surrender (Score:3)
Trump to the security folks, "I'm not ordering you to surrender. I'm just ordering gross incompetence." I guess Trump patriotism is different from Reagan patriotism.
Re:Not a surrender (Score:4, Informative)
For sure, I've got a laundry list of problems with Reagan but he did believe in Pax Americana.
Trumpism as the Republican platform is a rejection of those GOP ideals they told us from the 70s-00's
CYBERATTACKS ARE THE GOAL (Score:2)
Attacks on the power grid and internet access will be the excuse for martial law, rumps 'reichstag fire'.
"Reuters reported" and (Score:2)