Italy Blocks DeepSeek Over Data Privacy Concerns (reuters.com) 30
Italy's data protection agency has blocked the Chinese AI chatbot DeekSeek after its developers failed to disclose how it collects user data or whether it is stored on Chinese servers. Reuters reports: DeepSeek could not be accessed on Wednesday in Apple or Google app stores in Italy, the day after the authority, known also as the Garante, requested information on its use of personal data. In particular, it wanted to know what personal data is collected, from which sources, for what purposes, on what legal basis and whether it is stored in China. The authority's decision -- aimed at protecting Italian users' data -- came after the Chinese companies that supply chatbot service to DeepSeek provided information that "was considered to totally insufficient," the authority said in a note on its website. The Garante added that the decision had "immediate effect" and that it had also opened an investigation. Thanks to new submitter axettone for sharing the news.
Re: The U.S. will also block it for "privacy conce (Score:2)
Never mind that Openai stole/steals consumer data to train their modelâ¦no privacy concerns here because reasons.
Re: The U.S. will also block it for "privacy conce (Score:2)
What if I already downloaded it and plan on redistributing to anyone who wants it?
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Quite simple, really, in the case that people are doing with something that you distribute, the compliance to the data protection requirements, at least in the EU, will be on you.
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There goes that idea (Score:3)
I was just about to put in my email addresses and passwords and ask DeepSeek if it thought they were good ones or not.
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Don't worry. It already has them.
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When I went to their website they offered me to register using my Google credentials.
So the trick of this 21st century cold war then is to give your private details to both neo-colonial superpowers. :)
data collection (Score:3)
All of the mobile apps I use try to acquire data from my phone and send it off to data brokers. I see it in the report of the blocker.
Its very likely that all the shopping sites sell your purchase history and even your patterns of website use to anyone that will pay enough. Not at all surprising that the AI companies will make maximum use of your interactions and your personal info. Eventually they will want to rent you an agent that learns enough to serve in your place in many situations. Your entire life will be on autopilot.
Re: data collection (Score:2)
I would like to know the mobile device and application which blocks and reports on what it has blocked.
Letâ(TM)s face it, the open source operating systems donâ(TM)t match the maturity of iOS or even android. So Iâ(TM)m hard pressed to believe this is a viable solution. That said, I am interested as I do have the ability to execute privacy centric tasks. To extend this to mobile is highly intriguing to me
Re: data collection (Score:5, Informative)
On an Android phone, install the duckduckgo app. Then go to settings and enable app tracking protection.
It installs a VPN local to your phone which filters all outgoing traffic and blocks anything to known data brokers. Gives a nice report too.
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One of the reasons DuckDuckGo is my browser.
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Turn on Private Relay.
It appears that this is legit (Score:5, Informative)
Here's how deeply DeepSeek cares about user privacy:
https://www.theregister.com/20... [theregister.com]
a New York-based infosec house, says that shortly after the DeepSeek R1 model gained widespread attention, it began investigating the machine-learning outfit's security posture. What Wiz found is that DeepSeek – which not only develops and distributes trained openly available models but also provides online access to those neural networks in the cloud – did not secure the database infrastructure of those services.
That means conversations with the online DeepSeek chatbot, and more data besides, were accessible from the public internet with no password required.
So, it appears to be the case of a government agency actually doing their job for a change.
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Why everybody should be caring about somebody's else privacy, always?
Is it wrong, if I say, here is some service, it is free for you, but whatever you do there will be public? Why would this be wrong?
You go to the movies, you do not expect the theater to ban photo cameras for everybody due to your privacy concerns?
It is a chineese company, of course it is not private. It does not mean that it is not useful, though.
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It is a chineese company, of course it is not private. It does not mean that it is not useful, though.
Useful or not, they have a privacy policy, here:
https://chat.deepseek.com/down... [deepseek.com]
Among other things it says this:
The Security of Your Information
Security of your information is important to us. We maintain commercially reasonable technical, administrative, and physical security measures that are designed to protect your information from unauthorized access, theft, disclosure, modification, or loss. We regularly review our security measures to consider available new technology and methods. However, no Internet or email transmission is ever fully secure or error free. In particular, email sent to or from us may not be secure. Therefore, you should take special care in deciding what information you send to us via the Service or email. In addition, we are not responsible for circumvention of any privacy settings or security measures contained on the Service, or third-party websites.
Obviously, they are doing less than they've promised themselves.
You go to the movies, you do not expect the theater to ban photo cameras for everybody due to your privacy concerns?
This is a rather poor analogy which doesn't at all relate to the situation under discussion.
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Useful or not, they have a privacy policy, here:
https://chat.deepseek.com/down... [deepseek.com]
Among other things it says this:
The Security of Your Information
Security of your information is important to us. We maintain commercially reasonable technical, administrative, and physical security measures that are designed to protect your information from unauthorized access, theft, disclosure, modification, or loss. We regularly review our security measures to consider available new technology and methods. However, no Internet or email transmission is ever fully secure or error free. In particular, email sent to or from us may not be secure. Therefore, you should take special care in deciding what information you send to us via the Service or email. In addition, we are not responsible for circumvention of any privacy settings or security measures contained on the Service, or third-party websites.
Obviously, they are doing less than they've promised themselves.
What makes you think that they are doing less than promised?
It says "..designed to protect your information from unauthorized access...", so it they authorize it, it will be perfectly within the conditions.
And, "...you should take special care in deciding what information you send to us ...", that is, the responsibility is on you.
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Pretty weak trolling, 3/10.
Leaving a database of chat histories widely open is hardly evidence of "commercially reasonable technical security measure to protect information" and most of the consumer traffic is hardly email.
True, mostly irrelevant. (Score:2)
Sure, that's not helpful to the lost and the damned whose shiny little herme
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The 1.5b model that is offered separately from R1 (although also represented within R1) does run on a phone, so this is even going to trickle down to the people who only compute on a phone.
you can't protest on an iPhone (Score:1)
Sureley the BEST ... (Score:1)
... spyware attempt ever.
Great for them. (Score:1)
Time to read (Score:3)
If you haven't done so , just read what they publish publically as to whaat data they collect and how they do it.
You give them free access to your computer and aall your data.
It's written in plain laanguage easy to understand.
Use it and they scrape everything emphasis EVERYTHING on your computer.
There's no privacy or pick and choosing .. they will scrape yout machine from top to bottom.
That's why i backed off when going , by curiosity i admit , to see what the noise was about.
It's data theft of level 15 on a scale of 10.
Ask? (Score:2)
If you don't trust them what's the point in asking about if and where they store the data? Can't they just lie about it?
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