Epic Games Sues Google and Samsung Over App Store Restrictions 22
Epic Games filed a new antitrust lawsuit against Google and Samsung, alleging they conspired to undermine third-party app stores. The suit focuses on Samsung's "Auto Blocker" feature, now enabled by default on new phones, which restricts app installations to "authorized sources" - primarily Google and Samsung's stores.
Epic claims Auto Blocker creates significant barriers for rival stores, requiring users to navigate a complex process to install third-party apps. The company argues this feature does not actually assess app safety, but is designed to stifle competition. Epic CEO Tim Sweeney stated the lawsuit aims to benefit all developers, not secure special privileges for Epic. The company seeks either default deactivation of Auto Blocker or creation of a fair whitelisting process for legitimate apps. This legal action follows Epic's December victory against Google in a separate antitrust case. Epic recently launched its own mobile app store, which it claims faces unfair obstacles due to Auto Blocker.
Epic claims Auto Blocker creates significant barriers for rival stores, requiring users to navigate a complex process to install third-party apps. The company argues this feature does not actually assess app safety, but is designed to stifle competition. Epic CEO Tim Sweeney stated the lawsuit aims to benefit all developers, not secure special privileges for Epic. The company seeks either default deactivation of Auto Blocker or creation of a fair whitelisting process for legitimate apps. This legal action follows Epic's December victory against Google in a separate antitrust case. Epic recently launched its own mobile app store, which it claims faces unfair obstacles due to Auto Blocker.
App stores should not be a thing. (Score:3, Insightful)
Other than people have "gotten used to it" - I can't think of a single reason for an app store to exist. In fact I use the browser for almost everything on my phone (I almost never download an "app" or even think about apps).
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apple forcing webkit makes web apps suck and no app store can lead to browsers with no ad block.
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Cheating shouldn't either yet Fortnite is overrun by cheaters and Epic does nothing. Funny that they should complain when they can't even manage their own. Hey Epic, your game is abusive and unfair and bullies are using it to abuse honest players while you get rich.
Another example of corruption and classism in our corporatocracy..
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You seem to be arguing that both app stores and apps are unnecessary. What world do you live in?
There are loads of apps that should remain as apps, from messaging apps to simple flashlight apps. Maybe you're fine with the apps that have shipped with your phone, and/or with what you have installed since getting it, and everything else you can just use the browser for. Even if we reduce your argument to ONLY the browser, I'd still want the option of installing other browsers. So where do we get those other ap
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Other than people have "gotten used to it" - I can't think of a single reason for an app store to exist. In fact I use the browser for almost everything on my phone (I almost never download an "app" or even think about apps).
There is value to have a curator that ensures a minimum quality bar. There might be 1000 picture editing apps, but I appreciate having someone narrow my choice down to the 10 that don't crash every 5 minutes, won't harvest my credit card credentials and social security number, and won't drain my battery in 5 minutes while sending my location and browsing history to 5 different ad networks.
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Other than people have "gotten used to it" - I can't think of a single reason for an app store to exist. In fact I use the browser for almost everything on my phone (I almost never download an "app" or even think about apps).
How about the fact that websites are primarily designed for large monitors and interaction with mouse and keyboard. Apps are designed for smaller screens and touch interfaces. While users on smartphones can interact with websites, it is often less than ideal.
google stopped one plus from pre loading the epic (Score:2)
google stopped one plus from pre loading the epic store on there phones.
No one wants the Epic store (Score:4, Interesting)
People are forced to install the Epic store to install and play Epic games even if they actually purchased those games elsewhere. This is more of an issue than the store phone manufacturers to have on their devices by default.
Personally I choose to just not play any games from Epic.
Maybe Epic should just sell their games on the widely used stores instead of trying to maintain their self delusion that given a choice people would use their store.
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This is not about which store is used. It is about giving Google/Samsung/Apple 30 percent of the revenues of purchases made in the games. Epic wouldn't care where you downloaded the game if it didn't cost 30 percent of the sales.
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This is not about which store is used. It is about giving Google/Samsung/Apple 30 percent of the revenues of purchases made in the games. Epic wouldn't care where you downloaded the game if it didn't cost 30 percent of the sales.
That might be true if the games cost 30 per cent less on the Epic store. I don't have their store, and don't play their games, so I can't say for sure. But something tells me buying on the Epic store does NOT give you a 30% discount. Instead Epic likely takes that 30% themselves.
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Epic doesn't care about the customer. This is about the profits at Epic games. Nowhere did I suggest that the savings go to the consumer.
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So, if they want to be everything they accuse Google/Samsung/Apple of, don't count on any sympathy. Not even from a judge.
AFAICT, they're not rent seeking; They're providing their own services. They plan to eventually offer their services to others. What they're not planning is to restrict all users to using ONLY their app store, or making it difficult for others to do the same, which is what they're accusing Google/Samsung of. More competition in the market is something a judge is likely to side with.
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That might be true if the games cost 30 per cent less on the Epic store. I don't have their store, and don't play their games, so I can't say for sure.
The games are free to play.
The purchases are in game purchases for cosmetic items (character skins and such).
Why should Google or Samsung profit off of those in game purchases? And at 30%!
Why shouldn't Epic get the full purchase amount?
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Bilbo, staring at the ring.
Oh no! (Score:2)
One setting that can be easily turned off is creating significant barriers? No. No one wants your shitty store. Barely anyone wants Epic's shitty games to begin with.
Tim Sweeney is just a whiney little bitch who hasn't done anything useful or interesting in over a decade.