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New X Court Filing Says It's Complying with Brazil's Orders to Block Accounts (techcrunch.com) 118

X's struggles in Brazil got this update from the Guardian Wednesday: In a statement tweeted from X's global government affairs account, the company said the restoration of service was an "inadvertent and temporary" side-effect of switching network providers.
But Friday "After defying court orders in Brazil for three weeks, Mr. Musk's social network, X, has capitulated," writes the New York Times. "In a court filing on Friday night, the company's lawyers said that X had complied with orders from Brazil's Supreme Court in the hopes that the court would lift a block on its site."

"The company's lawyers said X had complied with the court's orders — blocking designated accounts, paying fines, and naming a new formal representative in the country," writes TechCrunch (citing reporting by the New York Times): In a filing of its own, the Supreme Court reportedly responded by telling X it had not provided the proper paperwork and giving it five days to do so....

X came back online in Brazil earlier this week, although Cloudflare CEO Matthew Prince told TechCrunch that the timing of the company's recent switch to Cloudflare infrastructure is just a "coincidence." During the ban, Brazilian users sought out social media alternatives, leading to dramatic growth at Bluesky and Tumblr.

The New York Times believes "The moment showed how, in the yearslong power struggle between tech giants and nation-states, governments have been able to keep the upper hand."

Although I'm curious about that missing paperwork...
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New X Court Filing Says It's Complying with Brazil's Orders to Block Accounts

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  • by Talon0ne ( 10115958 ) on Saturday September 21, 2024 @03:50PM (#64806153)

    For anyone interested... Brazil is currently going through some dark times:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?... [youtube.com]

    Elon Musk is trying to enable freedom of speech and help shine a light on corruption. It's much like he's doing in the US, and also when he talks about the horrible corruption in South Africa. He's a GOOD GUY, demonized by the legacy media.

    • Re: (Score:1, Troll)

      by Talon0ne ( 10115958 )

      Marked Troll - Thanks Slashdot... No rebuttals, no denials, just marked troll. Go watch that video and look through the comment section! Then go actually see Elon musk speak on the topic. Listen to HIM, not the BBC or NBC news coverage.

      • by sinij ( 911942 )
        It isn't Slashdot, it is -1 Disagree abusers. Everyone reads at -1 anyways, so it doesn't really matter.
        • by AleRunner ( 4556245 ) on Sunday September 22, 2024 @05:16AM (#64807205)

          In this case, the view that if someone calls Elon Musk a defender of free speech they are trolling seems pretty legitimate. This is a man who seems to have a very limited idea of free speech, seems to have specifically bought twitter to get his enemies off it, seems to ban anyone that criticises him personally with examples like the account that was tracking his massive use of private jets and basically understands "free speech" as "the ability to express particular views I see as legitimate".

          I don't personally know if the grandparent was trolling, possibly just wrong and ignorant, but Elon's past censorship of his opponents is pretty well known and gratuitous so trying to claim it doesn't exist does look like trolling.

          • by shanen ( 462549 )

            I think you're referring to the FP, but anyone who cites YouTube including YouTube discussions as an example of "free speech" doesn't know what "freedom" means. Also does not understand the relationship between free thinking and freedom, but I acknowledge that part gets complicated. Also sounded remarkably ignorant of the history of Brazil, but all these real-world things are complicated and it isn't me who lacks concision, it's reality. The whole mess is connected. (The difference between reality and ficti

      • Re: (Score:2, Insightful)

        by quonset ( 4839537 )

        Marked Troll - Thanks Slashdot... No rebuttals, no denials, just marked troll. Go watch that video and look through the comment section! Then go actually see Elon musk speak on the topic. Listen to HIM, not the BBC or NBC news coverage.

        Because you are are troll. He is not for free speech and he's shown that time and again. If he was for free speech he wouldn't have sucked Erdogan's dick when told to censor posts of political opponents, AND give an excuse why he did it [imgur.com]. You will note Twitter Global Government Affairs stated, and I quote: In response to legal process and to ensure Twitter remains available to the people of Turkey, we have taken action to restrict access to some content in Turkey today.

        Kindly tell us how abiding by one leg

        • by Talon0ne ( 10115958 ) on Saturday September 21, 2024 @05:12PM (#64806293)

          Did your brain fall out of your head also? Musk has a good statement in even that first link. He also is kind of funny. The Arlington cemetery thing was beyond stupid. Trump was invited. Even Joe Biden has video of him doing stuff there: https://www.youtube.com/watch?... [youtube.com]

          You just hate Musk for reasons that are manufactured by the media. He's incredibly intelligent, hard working, and has a sense of humor... What a crime!

          • Re: (Score:2, Redundant)

            by Barsteward ( 969998 )
            Elon, is that you?
          • He's incredibly intelligent, hard working, and has a sense of humor

            You and Elon should get a room.

            • by Talon0ne ( 10115958 ) on Saturday September 21, 2024 @06:13PM (#64806433)

              If only... I'd love to have a chat with him. There's only so many completely world changing human beings every few centuries and Musk is one of them.

              • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

                If only... I'd love to have a chat with him. There's only so many completely world changing human beings every few centuries and Musk is one of them.

                (Score:5, Interesting)

                This site is such a joke.

                • Re: (Score:2, Informative)

                  by geekmux ( 1040042 )

                  If only... I'd love to have a chat with him. There's only so many completely world changing human beings every few centuries and Musk is one of them.

                  (Score:5, Interesting)

                  This site is such a joke.

                  Took the the EV industry to the next level. Took the space industry to the next level. Now exploring brain implants to take the mind to the next level.

                  Your bias, is the joke. It’s even funnier when even you know it.

                  • by GrumpySteen ( 1250194 ) on Sunday September 22, 2024 @07:06AM (#64807297)

                    In every one of those cases, it was just Musk investing in companies that were already doing those things.

                    Musk didn't do a damn thing other than throw his money around, but he loves pretending that he founded those companies so much that he took one of them to court to force them to list him as a co-founder.

                    • In every one of those cases, it was just Musk investing in companies that were already doing those things.

                      Ok ...

                      Musk didn't do a damn thing other than throw his money around, but he loves pretending that he founded those companies so much that he took one of them to court to force them to list him as a co-founder.

                      Interesting. Well, let's look at the portfolios of other vastly wealthy people and see what they did with their money. Larry Ellison is building a pervasive spying system. Bill Gates is building his wealth through drug agreements with poor countries. Jamie Dimon is *shrug* building more wealth? Ken Griffin is doing similar things as Dimon. Bezos tried to build a rocket company but failed. I dunno man... all of them have stupid amounts of wealth and yet, somehow or another, none of them are building a

                    • In every one of those cases, it was just Musk investing in companies that were already doing those things.

                      Musk didn't do a damn thing other than throw his money around, but he loves pretending that he founded those companies so much that he took one of them to court to force them to list him as a co-founder.

                      Musk created a company with his brother and sold it to Compaq last century for over $300 million. After that he created the company that became PayPal and sold it for $1.5 billion over 20 years ago. Took $100 million of that money and founded SpaceX.

                      I’d rather see a wealthy person do that with their money then piss it away on some fuck-you-peasant representation of look-at-me wealth. Prove to me a billionaire is doing better for humanity, because I have my thoughts on those building superyachts and

              • by AmiMoJo ( 196126 ) on Sunday September 22, 2024 @05:03AM (#64807189) Homepage Journal

                Most world changing human beings actually invent stuff or do stuff themselves though. Musk is just a hype and money man.

                SpaceX tech was built by engineers, not Musk. He just get investors on-board. It remains to be seen if everything they are doing turns out to be a good thing, especially putting tens of thousands of satellites in to LEO.

                Tesla seems like it has failed to really change the US, if you compare it with Europe. In Europe, where Tesla was late to the game and all the hard work was done by Nissan and Renault in the early days, we have much better update of EVs and much better charging networks. Where as in the US most people seem to be convinced that EVs will never work and say that public charging is really bad.

                Tesla used Panasonic batteries, and was quickly overtaken by Chinese and Korean manufacturers. Failure to develop it fast enough has allowed the West to fall into last place, with no cutting edge battery tech at all.

                Twitter used to be decent for political engagement. Journalists were no longer the gatekeepers who decided what the public would get to hear, politicians could communicate directly with them. Musk turned it into a shithole and if he goes ahead with plans to remove the blocking feature later this year, it's probably dead as a useful platform. It's already dying due to most advertisers leaving, not least on account of Musk himself boosting far right conspiracy theories the like.

                Musk isn't a great, world-changing man. He's a rich kid who created a cult of personality that get people to throw money at his projects.

                • by serviscope_minor ( 664417 ) on Sunday September 22, 2024 @05:09AM (#64807197) Journal

                  He's a rich kid who created a cult of personality that get people to throw money at his projects.

                  That's the thing: he is supremely good at getting money through publicity stunts. It seems Musk took over the reality distortion field from Jobs when he died. It's a skill, and one that's important for business, but as an engineer and nerd, one that's not of particular interest to me.

                  • Re: (Score:2, Troll)

                    by AmiMoJo ( 196126 )

                    At least Jobs mostly delivered on what he said. Okay, he said Internet Explorer was great, and Apple Maps was a disaster, but he wasn't getting sued years after promising some feature that never came like Musk is.

              • The tech from Space X came mostly from NASA and the tech in his cars came from public universities (and continues to). Can you list his patents? I don't mean the patents of people who worked for his companies, I mean his patents.

                EVs were already on the way, he did notice a gov't program that paid him to build them so that petrol cars didn't have to meet emissions guidelines. I'll give him that, but that's really just being smart enough to use a gov't program and lucky enough that the company he picked o
          • by ArchieBunker ( 132337 ) on Saturday September 21, 2024 @06:54PM (#64806495)

            As I've said previously, you're in a cult. Here is the military's statement on Trump pushing aside a cemetery worker and then posing for thumbs up photos. https://news.prairiepublic.org... [prairiepublic.org]

            August 30, 2024

            The Honorable Christine Wormuth
            Secretary of the Army
            United States Army
            101 Army Pentagon
            Washington, DC 20310-0101

            Dear Secretary Wormuth: Throughout the week, reports have surfaced about a verbal and physical altercation between members of Donald Trump’s campaign and Arlington National Cemetery staff on Monday, August 26.1 It appears that the Trump campaign refused to abide by Arlington National Cemetery’s absolute prohibition on “filming for partisan, political, or fundraising purposes” and “abruptly pushed aside” Cemetery staff trying to “ensure adherence” to these rules.2 Accordingly, I ask you to provide the Committee with the incident report and a briefing to Committee staff on the facts of this incident, including whether Trump campaign staff violated federal law or Cemetery rules and whether the Trump campaign informed the families of servicemembers buried at the Cemetery that their gravestones would be used in Mr. Trump’s political campaign ads.3

            Reporting indicates that Mr. Trump and members of his campaign staff visited Arlington National Cemetery on August 26, 2024, to participate in a wreath laying ceremony and visit the gravesite of a fallen servicemember.4 However, it appears that the Trump campaign—which arrived at the Cemetery with a photographer and videographer—completely flouted the laws and rules they were informed of and filmed footage in the restricted area for use in a political Tik Tok video.5 Campaign officials also allegedly engaged in a verbal and physical altercation with Cemetery staff who attempted to enforce Cemetery rules that are aimed at preserving the sanctity and nonpartisan character of the Cemetery, with the Army stating that the Cemetery staff member was “abruptly pushed aside” so the unauthorized and illegal filming could occur.6 According to a statement issued by the Army after the incident, the Trump campaign was informed about the prohibition of political activities on the Arlington National Cemetery grounds.7 Film and photography are strictly prohibited in Section 60 of the Cemetery, which is largely reserved for fallen service members and veterans who served in the Iraq and Afghanistan wars.8 Although the incident was reported to the Joint Base Myer-Henderson Hall police department, reporting indicates the employee declined to press charges for fear that Trump supporters would retaliate against her.9 Governor Cox of Utah, who joined Mr. Trump at the Cemetery, also used images from the visit in fundraising materials. Governor Cox has since apologized for making political and campaign use of a visit to Arlington National Cemetery—but neither Mr. Trump nor his campaign have joined Governor Cox in apologizing for these blatant violations.10

            I am hopeful you can provide the Committee with a full account of the incident that occurred in connection with Donald Trump’s campaign visit to Arlington National Cemetery on August 26, 2024, including the incident report. Please reach out to Committee staff at (202) 225- 5051 by September 9, 2024, to schedule a briefing. The Committee on Oversight and Accountability is the principal oversight committee of the House of Representatives and has broad authority to investigate “any matter” at “any time” under House Rule X. Thank you for your prompt attention to this request.

          • not by the families of all the other graves he used for his photo op. Nor by the staff. So no, Trump wasn't invited.

            I hate Musk because he's a union busting POS and I've read the scientific literature that says unions raise my standard of living, not to mention all the historic literature.

            I also hate him because he used his Hyperloop scam to shut down high speed rail in order to force me to drive everywhere. This is fact, we have his own words on that.

            And I hate him because he interfered in the
            • Leon's robots in action. It's going to be funny when he loses all his money and spends his last few days working at a 7-Eleven. I'm just kidding 7-Eleven's going to go out of business when the private equity firm finishes with them
        • The reason he replied to his own comment is he was trying to use his plus two moderation in order to keep the original comment visible so he could bait you into a reply which would then get up voted. That's why I didn't reply to him.

          What he's trying to do is get his ideas out. People are going to read your comment and then they're going to click the parent link and read his comment and therefore his ideas still go out the door.

          This is a common trick online trolls use to control a conversation.

          Th
        • you nailed it on the head with the examples... what some people are having a problem with is understanding that Musk can easily SAY one thing. while acting in a contradictory manner. He can say all he wants that he's pro free speech, that doesn't mean his actions aligned with that.

          Not to mention a company is not the man. In some instances, the company may not have an option.

          Wish people would finally understand he is not some champion of the people! He's just another rich guy with a soapbox.

        • From the slashdot FAQ: [slashdot.org]

          Flamebait
          Comments whose sole purpose is to insult and enrage.

          Troll
          A Troll is similar to Flamebait, but slightly more refined. This is a prank comment intended to provoke indignant (or just confused) responses.

          By this definition, TalonOne's original comment does not qualify, and you and your ilk are abusing the moderation system by labeling it "troll."

          Maybe he is completely wrong. That still doesn't make him a troll. But it does make you a toxic member of the community for throwing t

      • by ArchieBunker ( 132337 ) on Saturday September 21, 2024 @04:55PM (#64806263)

        Elon is the biggest hypocrite there is. Use the word "cisgender" and your account gets flagged and with limited visibility. https://fortune.com/2023/06/21... [fortune.com]

        Elon suspending the White Dudes For Harris account https://variety.com/2024/digit... [variety.com]

        Elon suspending journalists who write about him. https://www.pbs.org/newshour/n... [pbs.org]

        Elon complying with government censorship. https://www.forbes.com/sites/k... [forbes.com]

        Remember when Elon wanted freedom of speech? Pepperidge Farms remembers. https://www.reuters.com/techno... [reuters.com]

        • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

          Elon is the biggest hypocrite there is.

          Yes, Elon is a hypocrite and an all-around scumbag. I bought a Tesla nine years ago and will never buy another. I don't want to support him even indirectly.

          Nonetheless, Elon's hypocrisy does not justify what is happening in Brazil.

          Brazil should protect civil liberties and strengthen institutions. Instead, the government is censoring its critics and perverting the courts.

          The laws are not just directed at X. Brazil didn't just ban X from posting criticism but also made it illegal for millions of citizens to

          • All around scum bag? Why? Because the legacy media says he is? He sounds
            a. extremely intelligent
            b. pretty funny

            He is a smart ass with a sense of humor to match his IQ. That's it. I've never heard him speak and though he was a scumbag. Please point me to his scummy stuff. I'm genuinely interested.

            • Re: (Score:2, Informative)

              All around scum bag? Why? Because the legacy media says he is?

              Because of what he says and does. Calling people "pedos". Censoring his critics while claiming to champion free speech. Claiming to care about climate change while endorsing and funding the man who wants to bring back coal.

              Perhaps I resent his scumbaggery so much because I used to admire him.

              He sounds
              a. extremely intelligent
              b. pretty funny

              None of that is inconsistent with being a scumbag.

            • here's a fun one- when he f'd around with crypto ( Dogecoin) and used his position to drive the price up, and then profit before it crashed back. Would need to look into the court records how he managed to get out of that class action... but anyone looking at it saw it for what it was. A pump and dump.

              Not sure how funny this was for those that lost money following him off the cliff right as he stopped right before the edge.

            • All around scum bag? Why? Because the legacy media says he is? He sounds
              a. extremely intelligent
              b. pretty funny

              He is a smart ass with a sense of humor to match his IQ. That's it. I've never heard him speak and though he was a scumbag. Please point me to his scummy stuff. I'm genuinely interested.

              Honestly, Musk sounds like an idiot. I understand he's extraordinarily successful at running his companies, but when he opens his mouth (well keyboard) regarding speech and politics he sounds like an idiot.

              And on those grounds, I think there's good evidence he's an idiot. Everyone knew the free-speech vs moderation vs censorship issue for social networks was extraordinarily difficult, yet Musk decided it was easy to do so he was going to buy Twitter and fix it.

              Of course, he soon realized the same thing ever

              • he's also started tanking the Tesla brand as well.

                Tesla makes products for greenies.

                Musk is sucking up to the king of the roll-coal crowd.

                For my next EV, I'll look elsewhere. I've heard others say the same.

          • Thanks for giving my original point more credibility. So many people just watch the news and don't even try to dig in. Just watch news, remember a point or 2 and move on. Bad stuff is happening throughout the world and nobody seems to be noticing - or even worse, trying to enflame.

            I still think Elon is a good guy though demonized by the media. (Not saying he's Jesus or anything - but Jesus was executed, and so was Socrates.) The masses are really stupid, sometimes... Even my Slashdot friends aren't immun

      • Re: (Score:2, Insightful)

        by test321 ( 8891681 )

        You're also not elaborating. You're just posting link to some propaganda video. Then you say "Listen to HIM". You're inviting into a cult or what?

        Selection from this month from the journalist's website you're quoting (change the language on top right icon)
        * "There is now little doubt that Covid originated from a lab leak" Sept 19 https://paulofigueiredoshow.co... [paulofigueiredoshow.com]
        * "Article – Kamala Harris, Tim Walz and Barack Obama Support Brazil-Style Censorship" Sept 3 https://paulofigueiredoshow.co... [paulofigueiredoshow.com]
        * "Wake up to

        • Re: (Score:1, Flamebait)

          by Talon0ne ( 10115958 )

          The BBC is as bad a NBC and NPR. They are captured ideologically just as much as the universities and big companies. Go listen to Charlie Kirk, Jordan Peterson, JD Vance, Konstantin Kisin. Sometimes an alternate view is actually right. I remember watching all the Chinese ports shut down in early 2020 and telling my friends something 'big' is coming... Nobody believed me then either.

          • ROFLMFAO
          • ...alternate view is actually right.

            JD Vance was caught fact-checking his boss and when told his boss was wrong, promised to 'deal' with the illegal immigrants in Ohio. Obviously, he can go to Ohio, do nothing because those Haitians have visas, then claim illegal immigrants 'disappeared' because of him.

            Many times, fact-checkers at the BBC are correct.

            Nobody believed me then ...

            Fool me once, ...

            I'm sure everyone ignored the proverbial Chicken Little too, the second time around.

          • Sometimes an alternate view

            You're not citing alternative views, you're citing two high profile Trump political advisers. That's one reason to get classified troll. You're not trying to use arguments and facts, you're only redirecting people to propagandists. You complain about BBC/NBC being "ideologically captured", but your only reference are the most possibly ideologically captured people, those who are in a political campaign and have interest in exaggerating the facts to get elected. The others are apparently anti-LGBT activists.

            • Just to clarify, when I say "Everybody is against you", I mean it is what it seems to me how you feel about the world ("the universities", "the media", "the big companies" being against you). I was not stating "everybody" in the sense of slashdot readers. Sorry for the ambiguity.

              • I feel like you're assigning things to me that maybe you're misconstruing but go watch this, really watch it and maybe you'll be red-pilled.
                https://www.youtube.com/watch?... [youtube.com]

                Like I've said in other places in this forum, I'm not the most eloquent, but I've watched and read tons of stuff over the years.

                • I'm reading his biography. Once more, the author of the videos you quote (Peter Boghossian) is a known supporter of some US presidential candidate (Andrew Yang). He has a known political classification (libertarianism), he publicly criticized left ("the regressive left has overtaken academia") and the right ("denialist attitude"), and he has strong publicly known religious opinions (atheism). I don't have much interest in getting influenced by politically/religiously-biased reporters. Of course everybody ha

        • by xevioso ( 598654 )

          I uh... have been on Slashdot for a very long time. As you can see by my UID.

          I have no idea how to mark anyone as troll. I just read an comment occasionally. How would I mark someone as Troll?

      • Then go actually see Elon musk speak on the topic. Listen to HIM

        This is why you were marked troll. You get your ideas of how the world of censorship works from someone whose actions says Free speech = any speech that I agree with. A man who sides with literal nazis and terrorists, but will block you from posting gender affirming words on his free speech haven. A man who will say anything that benefits him to the point of falling afoul of laws the world over, even in free speech loving America.

        No, I will not be listening to Musk. I value my braincells too much to abuse t

        • You're going to have to educate me on his bad behavior. I've only seen reasonable, sometimes funny, and always intelligent things from Elon Musk. The man is one in a billion and is unique. A lot like Einstein, or Socrates, Elon will be remembered for thousands of years as a great man. With maybe a fine sense of humor.

          • You're going to have to educate me on his bad behavior. I've only seen reasonable, sometimes funny, and always intelligent things from Elon Musk.

            I can't educate you. If that is what you've seen then I have no way of reaching you seem to be immune to reality itself.

            A lot like Einstein, or Socrates, Elon will be remembered for thousands of years as a great man.

            The world isn't black and white, even if you are only capable of defining it as such. Elon musk will be remembered, he will be remembered for doing great things, he will be remembered for doing dumb things. He will be remembered as the guy who pushed EVs and Space travel forward, he'll be remembered as the man child who champions free speech on his platform while auto-blocking any post wit

      • I would have marked your post as troll if I could, but didn't have any mod points.

        Your video engages only in partisan us-vs-them arguments, "everybody is against us" kind of thinking. This sort of tribalism is a big problem in the US right now too, on both sides of the political spectrum.

        How about let's talk about specific issues, instead of whining about people being "against" you because they disagree with you.

        • That's a bummer Tony. But specific issues like...
          Using the law to stimy political opponents? (Come on, Trump's court cases he's been winning back to back to back to back - never reported though. And even the content when you read it is beyond stupid and petty.)
          Using the power of the media to declare someone a Nazi and a DIRECT THREAT TO DEMOCRACY over and over and over until that someone is shot once and almost shot a second time?

          And where am I even saying 'Everyone is against me!"? Or even in tribalism

          • Using the law to stimy political opponents? Yes, that describes Trump, who filed dozens of lawsuits to try to overturn the 2020 election. But in cases after case, he lost. https://www.washingtonpost.com... [washingtonpost.com] I think you need to re-examine your definition of "winning."

            Your *video* (the one you linked) complained that "everyone" was against the former head of Brazil. And it's what Trump cries over and over. He says the media is against him, that they treat him unfairly. He says the courts are against him, inclu

      • "Good guys" don't go berserk on Twitter howling about "woke mind viruses."

    • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

      by Ol Olsoc ( 1175323 )

      For anyone interested... Brazil is currently going through some dark times: https://www.youtube.com/watch?... [youtube.com]

      Elon Musk is trying to enable freedom of speech and help shine a light on corruption. It's much like he's doing in the US, and also when he talks about the horrible corruption in South Africa. He's a GOOD GUY, demonized by the legacy media.

      Perhaps Elon does not understand that outside of the USA he's just a rich dude other than that, his shit stinks like us mere mortals.

      Perhaps many of us have a credibility gap with what he says.

    • by Anonymous Coward

      I'll take signs you're in a cult for $100, Alex

    • Re: (Score:2, Insightful)

      For anyone interested... Brazil is currently going through some dark times

      Elon Musk is trying to enable freedom of speech and help shine a light on corruption.

      First, Brazil is a democracy. Second, the judge in Brazil is attempting to crack down on anti-democratic, far-right voices – on Thursday described the move as a deliberate attempt “to circumvent the court’s blocking order".
      Treason is a crime. If Musk is supporting treason, he is a criminal and an enabler. In any democracy, committing a crime is not "freedumb of speech".

      • Who applies the label "anti-democratic, far-right voices"? Hmm?

    • Someone needs to stop this trolling menace who has gamed the comment scoring system.
    • more likely he got invited to 'have a chat over tea and cakes' by his co investors.
  • I had my bets on "nominal compliance" i.e. paying the fine and complying with the court orders, followed shortly by "voluntarily" shutting down X in Brazil.

    In other words, I was expecting him to throw the businessman's equivalent of a temper tantrum and say "Okay, fine, have it your way, no X for you!" and stomp off fuming.

    • In America standing up for others' natural rights is considered courage, not a 'tantrum'. That's a European perspective of being obedient to a sovereign. This is why Assange was imprisoned there for a decade.

      Rumble has been unavailable in France and Brazil for a while for refusing to capitulate and they're putting their money where their mouth is.

      Musk's support for free speech is instrumental and performative, based on his selfish whims or needs, so this is all little surprise.

      Most centralized platforms j

      • neglecting to mention only reason he was held was american putting pressure on for it to happen as they wanted him for embrassing them
  • Brazil ordered Musk to hire some local staff. He can't afford to.

    Before Musk Twitter made $5bn/yr and still lost 500m a year. This means their expenses were around $6bn.

    Musk cut those expenses a *lot*. He claims 80%, which I'm skeptical of but let's give him that. That means Twitter's expenses are now $1.2bn a year.

    But Twitter's revenue is down 84%, e.g. it's $800m a year, so they're still losing $400m a year.

    I mean that's technically an improvement, except a) they're operating so close to t
    • Meanwhile he's promising self driving cars again because he's out of ideas, and we keep falling for it anyway.

      Mister Ketamine has a cult following. There isn't much we can do about that, other than let it self destruct.

      It's like the people who now believe that Chocolate people in Ohio are eating our pets, and that 20 million people cam into the USA, as his boss claims.

      It's like the Cybertruck is the best truck ever, and that the hyperloop is creating a revolution in transport, and that we're gonna have crew dragons landing on Mars since 2016. Just bullshit lapped up by their cultists, like God's voice to th

      • Re: (Score:2, Insightful)

        by Talon0ne ( 10115958 )

        Chocolate people? A city of 60 thousand people got 20 thousand Haitian migrants dumped on them over a few years.
        Look at this news report from 2 months ago (before the big hoopla): https://www.youtube.com/watch?... [youtube.com]

        Incredible challenges with the school system, the police and fire departments, local services! Look, you can't just expect 20 THOUSAND people, from an impoverished and under-developed civilization to just acclimate into modern life. There's videos of guys walking down the street with ducks and g

        • There's videos of guys walking down the street with ducks and geese

          What's wrong with ducks and geese?

        • There's videos of guys walking down the street with ducks and geese, just look around a little bit and stop watching BBC and you'll find it too.

          You're brainwashed and in a cult. So the story has gone from Haitians are bbq'ing your pets, to a photo of a black man carrying two geese. It turns out the photo wasn't even taken in Springfield, it was taken in Columbus. Hell the NY Post even admits that much. https://nypost.com/2024/09/14/... [nypost.com]

          It turns out he picked up the geese because they were hit by a car. https://www.tmz.com/2024/09/13... [tmz.com]

          The owner of a factory in Springfield says the immigrants are excellent workers and wishes he had 30 more. https://x [x.com]

          • Thanks for educating me. I wasn't sure about that photo either. But, there's still the quote from your article:
            "Weeks later, a Springfield resident called 911 to report spotting four Haitian migrants snatching geese near a city park."

            And there's also the city council meetings like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?... [youtube.com] you can watch, and get it right from the source.

             

        • There's videos of guys walking down the street with ducks and geese,

          Geese? And DUCKS? My god, will the horrors never end?!

    • Brazil ordered Musk to hire some local staff. He can't afford to.

      Um, no.

      Brazil is turning fascist [europeanconservative.com]. Brazil is out of control with censorship [reason.com].

  • > Although I'm curious about that missing paperwork...

    Who exactly is curious? What is this, SlashdotWeekend? Stop the lazy and attribute this stupid quote.

  • ... X, has capitulated ...

    Helping sheeple turn around and run out of the slaughterhouse, is bad business: Shareholders and VC funds are upset.

  • I fought the law, and the law won.

    They got a court order, and any adult will follow court orders. Elon Musk had to f*** around first.
  • Disappointed. Another rich target.

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