An Open Database Leaked Submissions To Utah's 'Bathroom Bill' Snitch Form (404media.co) 251
samleecole writes: Utah set up an online form for people to accuse other citizens and public establishments of violating the state's recently-enacted transphobic "bathroom bill." The submission form is being flooded with memes and troll comments, and the auditor also left the submissions database open to the public -- without a password, authentication, or any other protections that would keep anyone from viewing other people's submissions.
After 404 Media contacted the auditor's office for comment, they changed the permissions to require authentication. The form link has been posted to Twitter, and people have repeatedly posted screenshots of themselves uploading memes. In the database, those included photos of Barry Wood, characters from Bee Movie, and Shutterstock images of bull testicles. Twitter users have also found a link to the database that the form is connected to, which is hosted on a public Google cloud console bucket that as of Thursday, required no authentication to view. I tested the form, and found that my submission -- a photo of the yelling table cat meme -- appeared instantly in the Google Console bucket. The submission form offers anonymity with the option for the state auditor to contact submitters for more details. I haven't seen names and contact information shared in the database, but comments and image attachments were easily viewable.
After 404 Media contacted the auditor's office for comment, they changed the permissions to require authentication. The form link has been posted to Twitter, and people have repeatedly posted screenshots of themselves uploading memes. In the database, those included photos of Barry Wood, characters from Bee Movie, and Shutterstock images of bull testicles. Twitter users have also found a link to the database that the form is connected to, which is hosted on a public Google cloud console bucket that as of Thursday, required no authentication to view. I tested the form, and found that my submission -- a photo of the yelling table cat meme -- appeared instantly in the Google Console bucket. The submission form offers anonymity with the option for the state auditor to contact submitters for more details. I haven't seen names and contact information shared in the database, but comments and image attachments were easily viewable.
Transphobic (Score:5, Insightful)
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On a previous job, I had a colleague who was openly gay, One day, I'm in the bathroom taking a piss. He walks in and starts doing his business in the urinal next to me. I thought nothing of it. Why? Because he's not there to hit on other men or sneak peeks at guys' wieners. He was there same as me, to take a piss, and that's it. Ever since then, I realized all the talk about being the bathroom police to be utterly stupid.
NEWS FLASH! If someone is going into the "wrong" bathroom for illicit purposes, no law is going to stop that.
Re:Transphobic (Score:4, Insightful)
Actually, as a gay guy, I've always found the concept of sharing a restroom with the sex you find yourself attracted to, to be rather unsettling. It's just really odd that we treat going to the bathroom while out and about as some weird communal experience in the first place. I'd much prefer the privacy of individual rooms, and then no one has to give a fuck about the gender or sexual orientation of the person using it.
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I don't like having to deal with a seat that some shit head has pissed all over. So, I'm really not bothered by urinals and always use them even when the stalls are free.
Also WTF is with the massive gaps under the walls in American toilets?
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The worst part is that this is getting cis women attacked. Bathroom police see someone who doesn't fit their idea of what a women should look like, say because they have cancer, or just don't choose to dress a certain, and they accuse them of being trans.
Just like they used to accuse women of being gay if they didn't dress to please straight men.
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If "men are strong" is the rational, what about the cases of children, the elderly, or mental disabilities? Who doesn't get to use the bathroom in those cases?
Shouldn't everyone have the right to use the restroom in peace? And the laws be directed towards ensuring that restrooms are designed for safety?
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Oddly enough, no one ever talks about women going into men's restrooms. The same with lesbian sex. People such as those in Utah will whine about gay sex, but they will always men sex between two (or more) men. Never between women.
Funny that.
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Double standard, one of the many.
With women...they can "experiment"...and come back to the home team.
But as a guy..you suck one dick........
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This sounds a lot like "black people statistically commit more crimes, so laws targeting them aren't racist."
Re:Transphobic (Score:4, Informative)
That's just data on prisons. If you want examples from the general population you don't have to look far. Voyeurism [wikipedia.org] is a thing, the prevalence is high, it's higher in males, and women are far more likely to be repulsed by it. "Subsequent research showed that 65% of men had engaged in peeping, which suggests that this behaviour is widely spread throughout the population." "Research shows that, like almost all paraphilias, voyeurism is more common in men than in women." "A 2021 study found that 36.4% of men and 63.8% of women were strongly repulsed by the idea of voyeurism." Example of a peeping tom using the excuse of being a transgender woman to video a woman in a change room at Target [time.com].
Women have a reason not to want men in their bathrooms and change rooms. This was all common knowledge when I was growing up. How do people not know this now?
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Are you a member of the party of small government and personal responsibility?
Re:Transphobic (Score:5, Informative)
Well I know where the editor stands on this topic. The problem is, I shouldn't.
Slashdot got its start as a pet project by Rob Malda, where he'd post random things he found interesting. Impartiality isn't something you usually find on what is essentially still just a blog.
It's a statement of fact (Score:4, Insightful)
And that's the point. It's supposed to put trans people at risk in public spaces so they're forced to detransition for safety. A kind of genocide. This dispite the fact that trans healthcare has a 98% success rate with most of the remaining 2% detransitioning because of social pressure, not because they felt they shouldn't transition.
I've got a bad back. Surgery was offered. It has a 60% success rate. I skipped it because it was difficult and painful and 60% was a low success rate. I'm doing physical therapy. But you can bet your *ass* if my doctor said "98% and by the way most of that remaining 2% is because people with back surgery have to use the wrong bathroom" I'd have done it.
Facts don't care about your feelings. I get it. Trans people weird you out. Uncanny valley effect kicks in. But that's a you problem, not a them problem.
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And having multiple individual private bathrooms is a net benefit for women. Ever seen a line outside of the men's bathroom? Why do men have the same number of toilets with most sitting idle? Or just better private stalls and a completely shared bathroom.
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It's supposed to put trans people at risk in public spaces so they're forced to detransition for safety.
The risk to sufficiently nonconformist cis women is also a happy accident as far as the proponents are concerned.
Bad vs Good Journalism (Score:3)
Is there any other way to look at this law other than it's transphobic?
Well I doubt whoever passed the law regard it that way so just because you might be unable to see another way to describe it does not mean that others can't. That's the great thing about talking to people you may strongly disagree with: you learn how others see things and have someone challenge your own thinking, helping to make your own opinions far more informed.
Good journalism requires that the jouirnalist report on the facts in an unbiased manner as possible. What would have been far more helpful he
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Well I doubt whoever passed the law regard it that way
Why?
What would have been far more helpful here is a factual description of what Utah's bathroom bill actually says for all of us who do not follow the laws that Utah passes and so have never heard of it.
Or get out from under the rock you've been living under. I don't even live on the same continent and I've heard of it. And it has come up on slashdot many, many times before.
That way I can form my own opinion
It will neither help nor hinder you in forming
Re:Don't say don't say don't say don't say gay (Score:5, Insightful)
Agreed. Religious people being alone with children is truly scary.
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the problem's actually pretty basic and fucked up. Because of mistranslations in 1946 the church has gone whole hog against the LGBTQ community. And they weren't exactly pro-LGBTQ before then.
So let's say you're raised during the "4 to 14" in a religious context. So you genuinely believe the church's teachings. But you're
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Did you just say gay people are pedophiles?
Sorry but those a very different attractions and the vast majority of gay people (just like straight people) have zero sexual attraction to children. I find your claim to be incredibly offensive,
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Did you just say gay people are pedophiles?
No.
Next question?
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But you're also Gay. So you're forever cut off from fulfilling romantic involvement, a basic human drive. What do you do?
There are lots of Christian churches that welcome trans and homosexual people. It's pretty rare to treat bible text literally. The bible is God's words interpreted by men. Of course the text is going to reflect the narrow thinking of the time it was written.
The entire thing comes down to the Church shitting all over Gay people and breaking their brains, then covering up the damage they're doing.
It's a mistake to reason from the few to the many. There are bad people. If you lump everyone that looks the same, has the same profession, goes the same church, etc. into the same bad category... that's where we get -isms. You're never going to eliminat
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Say what? The Bible IS the word of god. Those words are literally, in the truest sense of the word, in that little book. Those exact words, the word of god, are quoted by a multitude of Christians. A simple search shows site after site from Christians adamantly stating the Bible is god's literal words.
As for rarity, again, a multitude of Christians will tell you the text of the bible must be taken liter
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Those words are literally, in the truest sense of the word, in that little book.
Here you go.
A record-low 20% of Americans now say the Bible is the literal word of God, down from 24% the last time the question was asked in 2017, and half of what it was at its high points in 1980 and 1984. Meanwhile, a new high of 29% say the Bible is a collection of "fables, legends, history and moral precepts recorded by man."
https://news.gallup.com/poll/3... [gallup.com]
As for rarity, again, a multitude of Christians will tell you the text of the bible must be taken literally.
Words like "multitude" don't really help here. If you're homosexual or trans, there are many churches, at least in western countries that welcome you. Yes, there are also some that don't.
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Nobody is afraid to say Islam is also quite shitty in many ways, that's not edgy or new or controversial so stop acting like it is.
Fact is Islam is not the dominant cultural religion in the United States and fact of the matter is people who do practice in the US are probably the most moderate in the world (USA cultural integration powers) so no I can't say laws like this are really coming from the American Islam community.
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(USA cultural integration powers)
Youre completely on point but I'd like to add that a lot of Muslims that come to this country are actively fleeing the crazy conservatives in their countries of origin so many are moderate even before integration into US society starts.
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Fuck Muhammad.
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Nope. Catholics, Christians, and Jews to be more specific. Not that any other religions don't have child rape and molestation, only that these are the predominant ones in the U.S. who do so.
If you meant in Spain [bbc.com], then yes, Roman Catholic Church [reuters.com].
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No they don't. I know several married Episcopal priests, and woman Episcopal priests. Where are you getting your information?
Re: Don't say don't say don't say don't say gay (Score:4, Insightful)
How does gender dysphoria pose a threat to children or anyone really?
Re: Don't say don't say don't say don't say gay (Score:5, Insightful)
Re: Don't say don't say don't say don't say gay (Score:5, Insightful)
It's the same old think of the children! argument when in reality most children are molested or abused by people they know, not random strangers. Take the Boy Scouts for example, they had to declare bankruptcy from paying out settlements for molesters. https://www.reuters.com/legal/... [reuters.com]
But hey let's peek over those bathroom doors to see if that person has an innie or and outie.
Re: Don't say don't say don't say don't say gay (Score:4, Insightful)
Because of all the creepy men who are just claiming to be trans, to gain access to dressing rooms, restrooms, showers...etc.
I'm not sure how you missed out on one of the stories (not the one from Alaska) of a supposed trans in a Planet Fitness dressing room...showering walking around fully erect and was asking a young, underage girl if she wanted to shower with him, etc.
I think they finally did get the cops to bust that guy....
But these poor women that don't want to be changing or showering in a room with a biological man, with his dick hanging out or even some stage of being erect....and yet when they complain of being uncomfortable, THEY are the ones that have memberships terminated, or other penalties.
I'm seriously trying to pinpoint in very recent history when common sense in the world (especially the US) left the room and the crazies took over....
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Because of all the creepy men who are just claiming to be trans, to gain access to dressing rooms, restrooms, showers...etc.
That's pretty much a non-issue. Creepy men will be creepy
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Because of all the creepy men who are just claiming to be trans, to gain access to dressing rooms, restrooms, showers...etc.
If that were true then the news should be full of reports of this epidemic.
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Because of all the creepy men who are just claiming to be trans, to gain access to dressing rooms, restrooms, showers...etc.
I'm not sure how you missed out on one of the stories (not the one from Alaska) of a supposed trans in a Planet Fitness dressing room...showering walking around fully erect and was asking a young, underage girl if she wanted to shower with him, etc.
Indeed, yes we all know that if it were illegal for one sick fuck to be in a bathroom everyone is safe. In the meantime there are over 1 million people forced into the wrong gender bathroom because you're afraid of one sick fuck in a country of 333 million people.
But these poor women that don't want to be changing or showering in a room with a biological man
You don't speak for women. In fact the only people you ever seem to speak for on Slashdot are racists and transphobes.
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Do you have a link to that story about Planet Fitness?
It has a weird "letters to penthouse" energy about it, frankly. If he had a link it would not be to anywhere legitimate and you sure as heck wouldn't want to follow it.
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If republicans really cared about children they wouldn’t be doing things like refusing funds for school lunches. https://www.businessinsider.co... [businessinsider.com]
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Stats show that trans people suffer higher rates of sexual violence than others, but I'm not aware of any cis men pretending to be trans to get into women's spaces.
There are some examples of men who claimed it after getting arrested, but at the time it the incident hadn't made any effort to transition. That ended up just making things worse for them.
I'm just reminded that we had all this with gay men.
Always on the wrong side of history (Score:2)
I'm just reminded that we had all this with gay men.
Ha, I often think this nowadays about this issue.
Before it was gays it was racial minorities too. It really makes me wonder if conservatives will ever get tired of being on the wrong side of history when it comes to cultural issues like this.
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There always has to be someone to blame, otherwise they might have to change themselves.
Re: Don't say don't say don't say don't say gay (Score:5, Informative)
A sexual predator however, will also enter this places. They will use the loopholes you created, they have been actually doing it, a young girl in a school was sexually assaulted, it IS happening, as was anticipated. How do you tell the difference between a sexual predator identifying as a woman to get into woman spaces and someone who just has a different mental illness who identifies as a woman to enter woman places? Figure that out.
You tell the difference based on whether they are keeping to themselves and just using the restroom or walking around with their genitalia out or peeping on women in the next stall over — same as if those things happened in an alley somewhere.
Flashing or raping or molesting or peeping is a crime, and those people should be arrested, and will be arrested even without laws to close the "loophole" as you put it. In cases where such behavior isn't happening, then your only reason for making their bathroom use illegal is that it makes you feel icky, and that's just not a good enough reason to put someone in jail or subject people to harassment or other mistreatment.
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When people open loopholes to accommodate their mental illness with no regard to society or the implications, they put children and woman in danger.
Yep, we all know making sure the correct label on a bathroom door solves rape, assault and paedophilia. We did it guys. On to the next issue! /s
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There's many ways to describe it. Pro-reality, pro-woman, pro-sanity, pro-mental illness treatment, pro therapy not surgery, etc.
pro-I wonder if that person has a penis and it makes me feel funny inside.
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Men in female attire are infiltrating women's spaces and the supporters of these men are incensed that anyone would call it out.
Where is your proof for this absurd statement... That's what I thought.
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Oh noes... the sportsball game on channel 2 might become less entertaining than the movie of the week on channel 7. That's *totes* a valid reason to do away with civil rights, nondiscrimination, and equal treatment under the law for LGBT people.
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Is that your medical opinion? Because most doctors and all the major medical orgs disagree with you.
Presumably your peer reviewed research of in pre print because I can't find it.
Re:Don't say don't say don't say don't say gay (Score:5, Insightful)
Men in female attire are infiltrating women's spaces and the supporters of these men are incensed that anyone would call it out.
The other way around, I can understand being worried about, because men's rooms have urinals, but worrying about men in a women's restroom just sounds like people are looking for a reason to "other" people and using that as an excuse.
I mean, think about it. In many parts of the world, bathrooms are unisex. You're in a stall surrounded by walls by yourself. Why should you care if there are people of a different gender/sex at the sink next to you when you're washing your hands? Are you hand-washing-shy? Does it just make you uncomfortable to know that you're touching a towel dispenser that might have been touched by someone with cooties?
From my perspective, the entire reason for these laws comes down to a bizarre American fetish with keeping men and women apart, a fetish that causes substantial psychological harm for a lot of people (and not just trans people, but also people who simply like doing things that society has declared are "boy things" or "girl things", not to mention the subset of young people who, because they happened to attend a gender-segregated school, have little or no experience interacting with the opposite sex until college, and end up interacting in self-destructive ways as a result).
These sorts of laws are actively harmful to society because they promote distrust of others to an irrational degree. If someone truly is "infiltrating women's spaces", which I would interpret to mean "breaking into bathroom stalls and peeping on or molesting women", then they're already committing a crime, and you don't need a new law to throw them in jail. If they're just in the next stall doing their business, then you don't need to throw them in jail. Either way, these laws are just plain dumb.
Besides, there are a decent number of people who are not trans, but who get frequently mistaken for the opposite sex. These laws quite literally encourage people to harass people who aren't trans, all to fix something that is only a problem in the minds of people who spend way too much time worrying about how other people behave. How can anyone think that this is okay?
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> ...but worrying about men in a women's restroom just sounds like people are looking for a reason to "other" people and using that as an excuse
> From my perspective, the entire reason for these laws comes down to a bizarre American fetish with keeping men and women apart, a fetish that causes substantial psychological harm for a lot of people
A bizarre American fetish. Wow.
https://publichealth.wustl.edu... [wustl.edu].
"Also, gender segregated toilets that are located in convenient, safe locations at school can pr
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Men in female attire are infiltrating women's spaces and the supporters of these men are incensed that anyone would call it out.
This comment brought to you by Saudi Arabia and it's supporters. Meanwhile developed modern societies have stopped giving a shit.
Women cannot be men, and men cannot be women.
Objectively incorrect. Women and Men are genders not sex. You're thinking of the term "male" and "female". Or more accurately you haven't thought about it at all.
Re: Don't say don't say don't say don't say gay (Score:4, Insightful)
"This comment reflects what many people have been too afraid to voice."
Uh, no.
They are not afraid to voice it at all. We know this because they won't shut the fuck up about it. They're worse than vegans.
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Re:Don't say don't say don't say don't say gay (Score:4, Informative)
Why aren't any "transmasculine" (i.e. women) insisting on competing against men in male sports? Why is this dominated in one direction?
Transmen do compete against biological men in sports. In general, nobody cares about this; it's only transwomen competing against biological women that makes the news. See the snopes article: https://www.snopes.com/fact-ch... [snopes.com]
or several individuals in the news: https://www.them.us/story/chri... [www.them.us]
https://wsuathletics.com/news/... [wsuathletics.com]
Re: Don't say don't say don't say don't say gay (Score:4, Insightful)
Just basic Quora: "Snopes is trustworthy because it sources its work and gives readers the resources to check the very same facts themselves, at the bottom of every article, just before the very short biography about the author of the article. Most of the contributors to Snopes are journalists, experts, and professionals who cite their sources right in the article."
There's lots more, but it involves quite a bit of reading, which you probably aren't up to.
I understand that objective reality is the enemy of hard right ideologues and their drooling, slack-jawed acolytes. Nevertheless, it is a thing. Sorry about your luck
Re: Don't say don't say don't say don't say gay (Score:3)
Please get out of your bubble every day and read someone you dislike. It is the only way you will grow.
Re: Don't say don't say don't say don't say gay (Score:3)
Why do I have a hard time believing that? Especially in light of this happening only four years ago:
https://www.them.us/story/chri... [www.them.us]
Re:Don't say don't say don't say don't say gay (Score:4)
Yeah! We won't be "controlled" and "manipulated" by women, either! They only represent a little over half the population. Or by black people! They only represent--what--30%? Or by the elderly! My "% of population" goalpost is easily moved, and those below that % aren't allowed to "control" or "manipulate".
Oil companies? Sure. They represent a lot more by lobbyist dollars. Car companies? Ditto. Meat packers' unions? Not as much, but they aren't allowed because "meat packing".
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And when ANY of those groups start insisting they need to “teach” my children or others about how “awesome” their mental illness is, I’ll be glad to call that bullshit out too.
Great! Please let us know how often this has happened. Details or it didn't happen, cutie.
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Actually, society is better off being inclusive with this even if it's 100% just mental illness.
This is like arguing that you should be telling your Alzheimer's grandmother several times every day that her husband died 10 years ago. It's the truth! But it also does nothing to help them.
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The Alzheimer's analogy implies that being inclusive is necessary because the people affected have such a badly damaged brain that you need to humor them to spare their feelings from one moment to the next.
If there is a schizophrenic that is convinced they are hearing voices, is it better to go along with that delusion, or offer them some help? What if the voices are terrifying them? What if the person is thinking about taking drugs and committing self harm, or signing up for life changing surgery to cope w
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The thing is, just like with gay folks (which plenty were calling mentally ill even just a decade ago) there is no reversing or "treating" gender dysphoria. Just like with gay folks, this is just who these people are.
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I'm any case, being trans is not a mental disorder. They said the same thing about being gay, even long after all the major medical organisations of the world had said it wasn't.
Re:Don't say don't say don't say don't say gay (Score:4)
I see this is less transphobic, and more pro-normal, pro-hetero
How the fuck is it "pro hetero"? Are you going to stop gay men and women using the appropriate gendered bathroom too? How the ever living fuck are you going to enforce that?
And "pro normal" means "pro repressive big government enforcing narrow gender roles". There's now risk women who consider themselves women and were born that way who are considered "insufficiently feminine".
Why aren't you worried about womens' rights anymore?
You sure as hell ain't. You want by law to force this bearded, burly dude into women's bathrooms, you perv.
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/... [bbci.co.uk]
And no...just "saying" you feel like a woman today does not make you one...we're talking biological women
You don't know enough about biology for that to even make sense. What the fuck do you even consider a biological woman anyway. I can guarantee you I can shoot holes in whatever definition you find.
And your excuse will be as always, that's rare, so it's OK if the government is cracking down on a small number of completely innocent people for the greater good.
Re:Don't say don't say don't say don't say gay (Score:4, Insightful)
Let's be honest that's what this comes down to really. It's a law that says "you have to be able to pass as that gender" because if someone does then nobody notices and it's been happening for decades already with no problems.
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J.K. Rowling doesn't care about men's fears, her and the other TERFs are merely upset that a group of men have found the shortcut to easy mode in life, become a trans woman. But feel free to join the misandrists and blame men for getting upset by trans women using the "ladies room".
The TSD-485 titanium-alloy submarine screen door (Score:2)
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Well, we know thousands of submissions were made. Without looking at the data, we don't know how many people, or how many actual complaints were made.
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Or how many of the complaints are vaild.
I'll bet that a huge number of complaints have been made about women who do not look sufficiently feminine from the point of view of the idiot making the complaint.
And of course, one might to see scenes like this since that person in that bathroom category is mandated by law:
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/... [bbci.co.uk]
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And of course, one might to see scenes like this since that person in that bathroom category is mandated by law:
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/... [bbci.co.uk]
Your example raises a point: What happens when someone uses the bathroom mandated by law, women freak out that a man is in the women's bathroom and someone decides to confront them? In Idaho, it could easily devolve into a shooting. Of course, then the politicians and religious nutters will just blame the trans person, because well...
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In Idaho, it could easily devolve into a shooting. Of course, then the politicians and religious nutters will just blame the trans person, because well...
That's a feature not a bug I suspect.
Oh noes! (Score:5, Funny)
It'd be an awful shame if the form [web.app] were to be flooded with jokes, memes, salacious images or other such tomfoolery that prevented the good leaders of Utah from addressing the most pressing problem in the state and stopped them from efficiently policing hallowed state potties.
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Our laws guarantee certain things, but they certainly do not guarantee freedom from discomfort.
If some women are uncomfortable with the thought of a transgender woman using the washroom at the same time as they do, well then... that's what single-occupant washrooms are for. You can accommodate those women by given them single-user spaces.
You know what? (Score:5, Insightful)
I can go an entire day without daydreaming about who has a penis and who doesn't. That seems incredibly difficult for certain people.
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Public places without private, "family" restrooms should build them for people who don't align perfectly with either gender. Utah is very pro-family, right?
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Try being a father of a young girl who needs help in the bathroom - which bathroom does she use? And then men's bathroom's don't even have baby changing stations.
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Re:You know what? (Score:5, Insightful)
Complete the thought. Women need female-only spaces because they don't feel safe around men. Why do you think Japan has women-only trains? It's the same reason that over half of women say they'd rather encounter a bear in the woods than a man [yourtango.com].
This nonsense about "overriding" rights of one group by another is a non sequitor. There is no "right" being overriden. Someone needs to take a piss or shit. That's it. It's the same pathetic argument about gay marriage. The mentally ill religous folks will claim gays and lesbians are getting special rights if they're allowed marry. How? In what way is allowing two people to marry any different just because they're the same sex?
If you're that worried that someone different might use the same restroom as you, there is a simple solution. Don't use a public restroom. As an aside, bills such as this are the exact same type used to prevent blacks from using the same restrooms as whites. Won't someone think of the children!
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Where did I deny that some women might feel uncomfortable pulling up her skit with some creepy guy in the next stall? Everything I pointed to says that very thing. With all the rapes and assaults that men do against women, it's no wonder many women don't want to be alone with an unfamiliar man. As I said, that's why Japan has women only trains. Because women were, and still are, perennially assaulted because men can't control themselves, so the only solution is not have men around.
Of course what would be
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Where did I deny that some women might feel uncomfortable pulling up her skit with some creepy guy in the next stall? Everything I pointed to says that very thing. With all the rapes and assaults that men do against women, it's no wonder many women don't want to be alone with an unfamiliar man.
... and when personal safety counts, even progressive women see little difference between biological men.
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The submission form offers anonymity? (Score:3)
Try designing a meaningful form that is private, anonymous, trackable, and can collect meaningful information. It's not impossible, but doing so is extremely difficult.
I suspect this was deliberate ... (Score:3)
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When you're baptising non-Mormons after they die [theguardian.com], and penalizing those who speak up against the practice, you better believe their database needs to be secure.
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You mean baptizing Mormons standing in proxy for the dead. They can do whatever they want in that regard. They're not digging up bodies.
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What right to they have to do anything to anyone else? Would they like it if Satanists started doing something similar? It's none of their business who a person is if that person wasn't part of their cult.*
This is one of many problems with mentally ill religious people. They stick their noses in everyone else's business when they have no right to do so.
By definition, all religions are cults but not all cults are religions.
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Who are they doing something to? They're just exercising a right to speech and association. We don't have to like it but we don't get to say they didn't have the rights.
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Given that knowledge isn't passed along genetically, it's silly to assume that everyone in Utah is equally adept at securing databases. Doubly so because this was a government driven project and likely done on the cheap.
We've seen plenty of stupidly-unprotected databases before. You don't have to look any further than "incompetence" to find the reason.
Fuckups will fuck up (Score:2)
What else is new? There is no reason to believe these people will have better control of technology than they do of their lives.
Simple Solution, re-design bathrooms (Score:2)
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In my town, a restaurant did exactly that. Private toilets, for any gender, and a common area to wash up. I thought "perfect!"
But, guess what, there was a big commotion from local conservative, religious people and politicians, including a boycott to the place and trying to prohibit the solution through legislation.
Because, it turns out, the problem wasn't really the one they always claimed (transgender men using women's bathroom). The problem to them was, obviously, acknowledging and accomodating transgend
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Americans, as a whole, are pansies (Score:4, Interesting)
In Europe, people don't get freaked out by penises and vaginas and breasts. Kids are exposed to them on beaches and in the media and they are not traumatized. Spas and saunas are naked friendly and cross-gender. Even some changing rooms are basically separated by empty space.
Americans are just afraid. Afraid of what they'll do, afraid of what others will do, afraid of what they won't. They're afraid of the body, they're afraid of foreigners, afraid of religion, afraid of people who don't have religion. Afraid of God, afraid of women, afraid of men. Afraid of strangers, afraid of the person who lives next door. Americans are drenched in fear.
Stop being a bunch of frady cat pussies, Americans. Stop telling everyone what to do. Live your own fucking life and stop getting into everyone else's business. And stop trying to stop people from living their own lives. Live and let fucking live.