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FTC Judge Decides Intuit's 'Free' TurboTax Ads Did Mislead Consumers (theverge.com) 30

The FTC's chief administrative law judge (ALJ) ruled that Intuit, the parent company of TurboTax, "deceived consumers" and "engaged in deceptive advertising" by advertising its "Free Edition" tax filing service as free when users ultimately had to pay. The Verge reports: The ruling (PDF) includes several pages of commercials and online ads where Intuit advertised its "Free Edition" software. While the name implies that the service is, well, free, people wound up having to pay to use it -- sparking a lawsuit from the FTC and a $141 million payout to affected users. Meanwhile, Intuit's actually no-cost Free File version, which it launched in partnership with the IRS, remained exceedingly difficult to find. In 2021, Intuit exited the program after the IRS stopped letting companies hide their free filing services from search engines.

The FTC's ALJ determined that there is a "cognizant danger of a recurring violation" by Intuit and issued a cease-and-desist order that prohibits the company from "engaging in deceptive practices in the future." The ruling prevents Intuit from representing a product as free unless it actually is free for everyone to use and "clearly and conspicuously discloses any terms that would limit the offer." In a statement, Intuit called the FTC's investigation process "flawed and highly questionable," noting "Intuit already adheres to most of the advertising practices in the FTC's erroneous decision." The company adds that it has "been clear, fair, and transparent" with customers and remains "committed to free tax preparation."

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FTC Judge Decides Intuit's 'Free' TurboTax Ads Did Mislead Consumers

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  • Ha!! (Score:4, Interesting)

    by timeOday ( 582209 ) on Friday September 08, 2023 @06:52PM (#63833710)
    This is well-deserved.

    Instead of just imposing a new rule on TurboTax, how about just solving the problem with an actual, free, official IRS website?

    My po-dunk state managed to make one for state taxes. Sure it's not slick but it works perfectly fine. And it's not bait and switch.

    • by Shakrai ( 717556 )

      My po-dunk state managed to make one for state taxes. Sure it's not slick but it works perfectly fine. And it's not bait and switch.

      Your po-dunk state is further along than most. I've called five different States home, have filed income taxes in seven, and none of them had anything like this. My current State, Oregon, we have our own version of Free Fillable Forms, but for some asinine reason it excludes the part-year and non-resident forms. I'm not sure why, it ain't doing any computations or logic flow for you, it's just data entry with a means to electronically submit what you input to the State. Given that I was a part-year resi

    • by Burdell ( 228580 )

      My otherwise-backwards state (Alabama) manages this just fine, and the IRS is finally looking at doing the same. But the reason the IRS hasn't done it in the past is that Congress, at the behest of lobbyists from Intuit and H&R Block and such, explicitly banned the IRS from doing so. That blockade has finally been removed (although said lobbyists are still trying to get it reinstated).

  • I Got Caught by This (Score:5, Informative)

    by NoMoreACs ( 6161580 ) on Friday September 08, 2023 @07:02PM (#63833726)

    I used to use a Free File Service accessed through Credit Karma. Now that same path ends up funneling you into TurboTax.

    "Free!", it screamed.

    A few Clicks later, it was $41. Ok, I can deal...

    Then, near the end, it was suddenly $140+ (!!!)

    I partially blame Credit Karma for the smarmy relationship; but TT will never get anything from me, again. . .

    • There is no Credit Karma to blame, it was bought by Intuit.
    • CreditKarma was bought by Intuit a year or two ago, but their free filing service (formerly CreditKarma Tax) was spun off and sold to Cash App. It’s still around today as Cash App Taxes [cash.app], and even has your old records to import for future use.

      • The one drawback I've found with Cash App Taxes after the transition from Credit Karma is that the service requires a Cash App installation to sign in, and Cash App is exclusive to iPhone and Google Play phones. Users of a feature phone, AOSP phone, Librem 5, PinePhone, or Fire tablet need not apply. They say it's for 2FA but don't allow standard TOTP apps for 2FA.

      • CreditKarma was bought by Intuit a year or two ago, but their free filing service (formerly CreditKarma Tax) was spun off and sold to Cash App. It’s still around today as Cash App Taxes [cash.app], and even has your old records to import for future use.

        Thanks for the tip!

  • Gotta plug my boys (Score:4, Informative)

    by jacks smirking reven ( 909048 ) on Friday September 08, 2023 @07:14PM (#63833744)

    At FreeTaxUSA.com. [freetaxusa.com] An actual free filing site (if only doing basic Federal) and the paid for state and upgraded plans are clearly marked with what you get and what it costs. I usually throw them the $8 even though I don't need it because it just works, the site layout is nice, the way it walks you through the whole process is well thought out.

    I am surprised Intuit hasn't purchased them yet and ruined it.

  • by Bruce66423 ( 1678196 ) on Friday September 08, 2023 @07:20PM (#63833758)

    This is one of those occasions when it is totally obvious who really runs the USA - and it's not the people. TurboTax needs to be charged punitive and exemplary damages - at least 3 times what they gained by deceit, and preferably 10 times.

    Meanwhile the people who really run the USA will be a touch embarrassed at being outed. Sadly it won't last.

  • But they did ads telling people they had a free product and then charged for the product and then had the nerve to tell a judge that those ads were somehow not misleading.
  • Intuit is garbage, wrapped in slime.

    Maybe I'm only saying that because I have to support quickbooks...but...I have to support quickbooks, and it's a huge pile of shit.

    • Re:Intuit is garbage (Score:4, Interesting)

      by echo123 ( 1266692 ) on Friday September 08, 2023 @10:06PM (#63834014)

      Intuit is garbage, wrapped in slime.

      Yes it is! I still have scars from using Intuit Quicken, before I switched to free, open-source GnuCash. Intuit made it impossible to upload bank transactions unless the bank pays Intuit a fee, so banks in a country I am involved in aren't supported. Plus Intuit wants customers like I used to be, to purchase regular software upgrades. GnuCash allows me to upload transactions in MT940 format, supported by my bank, freeing me from the tyranny of manually entering all those stupid little transactions and trying to balance the books on a regular basis. Oh how I hate Intuit so!

      • by Shakrai ( 717556 )

        How difficult was the transition from Quicken to GnuCash? Both in terms of data migration, if any, and learning curve for day to day operation.

        My last experience with GnuCash is 15+ years old and calling it unfriendly to use back in those days would be an understatement. I settled on Moneydance [moneydance.com] after I fired Quicken (who I only gave a chance after Microsoft discontinued 'Money', which was and still is, IMHO, better than Quicken). It ain't free, or open source, but it is independently developed with a pr

        • I had to think about this, because the process wasn't something I wanted to remember. It wasn't a walk in the park, but with planning and effort it wasn't terrible either, and it was absolutely worth it once achieved. It's also also been a satisfying feeling to use it over the years, given the difference between GnuCash and Quicken, and how miserable manually entering foreign transactions was. GnuCash handles foreign currency transactions with ease compared to Quicken, at least back in the day.

          And this is t

  • $141M (Score:4, Insightful)

    by StormReaver ( 59959 ) on Friday September 08, 2023 @08:13PM (#63833836)

    $141 million is all they were fined?! It would have been more appropriate if that were the fine for each year they scammed the public.

    • by jonadab ( 583620 )
      > It would have been more appropriate if that were the fine for each year they scammed the public.

      Well, they couldn't be fined for the usual scam ("taxes are hard, let us do them for you" [even though in practice you'll actually spend more time providing us with all the documentation we ask for, than it would take to just file the dang taxes yourself]), because that's not technically illegal, and other companies (notably H&R Block) have been doing it since Joe Biden was a little boy.

      So the fine only
  • by Bob_Who ( 926234 ) on Friday September 08, 2023 @10:37PM (#63834060) Journal

    Intuit called the FTC's investigation process "flawed and highly questionable,"

    Intuit is right. If the FTC had any real impact on reality it would make Intuit refund everybody for false advertising.

  • And no state income tax == free.
  • Purchasing Quickbooks magically transforms "consumers" into "businesses", and shields Intuit from the FTC's consumer protection realm. Legally lying to millions of consumers each year for nearly a half century funded dozens of acquisitions including Turbotax. Intuit’s incredulity that lying isn't legal stems from breach of contract between Intuit and the IRS to provide free tax filings to low-income taxpayers and government employees. The initial $40mlilion fine for the initial contract breach was p

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