New Report Says American Government Agencies Are Using Malware Similar To Banned Pegasus Spyware (digitalinformationworld.com) 77
A new report has revealed that a government agency in the US, namely the Drug Enforcement Agency (DEA), is allegedly using a spyware called Paragon Graphite that shares similarities with the notorious Pegasus spyware. From a report: Pegasus was sold off to the government and other law firms. Moreover, we saw the firm making plenty of purchases through the likes of hackers. The software tends to give in to exploitation that can be achieved through zero clicks, all thanks to the great skill of hackers. Moreover, such software can produce its target without any interaction. [...] New reports by the Financial Times stated how the American Government makes use of this technology as it can pierce all sorts of protections linked to modern-day smart devices. Similarly, it can evade various forms of encryption for messaging applications such as WhatsApp and harvest data thanks to the likes of cloud backups. And yes, it's very similar to its counterpart Pegasus in this ordeal.
For now, the DEA is awfully hushed on the matter and not releasing any more comments on this situation. But it did reveal how its agency ended up purchasing Graphite to be used by agencies in Mexico so they could curb the drug cartel situation. "According to four [industry figures], the US Drug Enforcement and Administration Agency is among the top customers for Paragon's signature product nicknamed Graphite," reports the Financial Times. "The malware surreptitiously pierces the protections of modern smartphones and evades the encryption of messaging apps like Signal or WhatsApp, sometimes harvesting the data from cloud backups -- much like Pegasus does."
The report adds: "Congressman Adam Schiff, the chair of the House Intelligence Committee, wrote to the DEA in December asking for more details on the purchase. Mexico is among the worst abusers of NO's Pegasus which it bought nearly a decade ago.
Schiff wrote: "such use [of spyware] could have potential implications for US national security, as well as run contrary to efforts to deter the broad proliferation of powerful surveillance capabilities to autocratic regimes and others who may misuse them."
For now, the DEA is awfully hushed on the matter and not releasing any more comments on this situation. But it did reveal how its agency ended up purchasing Graphite to be used by agencies in Mexico so they could curb the drug cartel situation. "According to four [industry figures], the US Drug Enforcement and Administration Agency is among the top customers for Paragon's signature product nicknamed Graphite," reports the Financial Times. "The malware surreptitiously pierces the protections of modern smartphones and evades the encryption of messaging apps like Signal or WhatsApp, sometimes harvesting the data from cloud backups -- much like Pegasus does."
The report adds: "Congressman Adam Schiff, the chair of the House Intelligence Committee, wrote to the DEA in December asking for more details on the purchase. Mexico is among the worst abusers of NO's Pegasus which it bought nearly a decade ago.
Schiff wrote: "such use [of spyware] could have potential implications for US national security, as well as run contrary to efforts to deter the broad proliferation of powerful surveillance capabilities to autocratic regimes and others who may misuse them."
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Update - it's also been largely confirmed that... water is wet.
Why is this a surprise? (Score:4)
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The laws and regulations don't apply to them, they only apply to the peasants.
And yet throughout history, heads end up on pikes when the peasants have had enough. Seems the corrupt haven't learned a damn thing.
Read about the peasant wars, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... [wikipedia.org] 100,000-300,000 peasants slaughtered, like most times the peasants arose to kill the aristocracy. Here's a list, mostly failures, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... [wikipedia.org]
"New report" by "experts" (Score:2)
This is extremely vague sourcing. I don't doubt that American spooks have no regards for civil rights or privacy, and are using every trick in the book whether it's legal or not. But this article has a strong odor of clickbait.
Re:"New report" by "experts" (Score:5, Informative)
Here's a similar article with more detail;
https://arstechnica.com/tech-p... [arstechnica.com]
Alternate Source [Re:"New report" by "experts"] (Score:4, Informative)
Here's a similar article with more detail;
https://arstechnica.com/tech-p... [arstechnica.com]
and, if you can get through the paywall, the original New York Times article is here: https://www.nytimes.com/2022/1... [nytimes.com]
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Is it just as blatant a Chinese translation as what is quoted TFS above?
From TFS,
"And yes, it's very similar to its counterpart Pegasus in this ordeal" What ordeal?
"Moreover, such software can produce its target without any interaction" It produces its target? Fascinating. It is spawning things to exploit then?
And it claims Adam Schiff who had relations with a Chinese spy is Chair of the Intelligence committee. While Schiff ultimately was not censored because they couldn't PROVE wrongdoing after having been
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It wasn't Schiff, it was Eric Swa [thepostmillennial.com]
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There's plenty of evidence that trump was and is a Russian stooge.
https://www.cnn.com/2019/11/17... [cnn.com]
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There is no evidence of anything in that article, just a bunch of spin. As for Schiff I'd mixed him and Swalwell up but Schiff was a party to entirely fake Steele Dossier and the drive to investigate the Trump campaign without evidence.
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It is loads of evidence. And then there is the Mueller report and the Senate Intelligence Committee reports which also outline the extensive collusion.
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Mueller didn't find any evidence of collusion and the other was nothing but propaganda. Buddy, it was FAKE. Even Clinton's campaign manager admitted they were pushing it out knowing it was probably fake. The sources have admitted it was fake.
The Durham report showed it was fake and provides enough evidence of people who knew it was fake breaking policy to push it through to only be consistent with an intent of deliberate election interference and obstruction of the Presidency.
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Mueller's report has a whole section on collusion. The report from the Senate Intelligence Committee was issued at a time when Mark Rubio was chairman. They name names, describe all the actions. Try reading them. Heck, trump practically falls on his knees whenever he's around Putin. He met with Putin privately for hours with no staff present and no transcript of the meeting.
The Durham report was an absolute nothing. Millions of dollars completely wasted.
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Mueller's report has a whole section on collusion.
...and how it found zero evidence of it.
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It is loads of evidence.
Tell us, specifically, one piece of evidence saying Trump colluded with Russia.
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Glad to help. Here's a summary, a long list of actions taken in close cooperation with Russia;
https://www.lawfareblog.com/fu... [lawfareblog.com]
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OK I read it. I specifically asked for "evidence the Trump campaign colluded with Russia." You only showed instances of Russia trying to help the Trump campaign and contacting people who were not in the Trump campaign. Russia does what it's going to do. Trump and his campaign did not, otherwise he'd be in jail, wouldn't he?
From your link:
"the investigation did not establish that members of the Trump Campaign conspired or coordinated with the Russian government in its election interference activities."
Ho
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The reports document many instances where Trump and his people specifically worked with Russia. Mueller stated that the sitting President couldn't be indicted, that's why he wasn't charged. Even now Trump is making it clear that he would give Ukraine over to Russia. He's a Russian stooge, and you like him.
But hey, what about Hillary's emails? Hilarious!
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No, it does not. It has one instance where someone in the campaign (or was it two guys?) started taking pro-Russian stances and they were very quickly fired. It also cites a few instances of Russians trying to contact people or talking to Russians not in the government, or people unsuccessfully trying to set up a meeting.
It all points an image of the Russians actively trying to gain a foothold in the Trump campaign, and failing miserably due to the campaign's diligence.
I find it hilarious you didn't even
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"failing miserably due to the campaign's diligence", hilarious! Trump is totally in the tank for the Russians, and you like him.
Now the convicted sex predator is up to his eyeballs in legal trouble related to his attempted subversion of the election, his theft of classified documents, and his hush money payments to a porn star. All of which everyone knows he really did do.
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It's sad that this is what passes for debate on /.
And BTW, I don't like Trump at all, would never vote for him.
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Just replying to repair an accidental mod. You are correct.
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Yup, I cross wires on it. They were dumped at the same time.
All governments want/have these types of things... (Score:1)
It isn't a surprise here. I'm sure all governments have some way into a phone for remote spying, either some expensive zero days, an app everyone uses that exfiltrates data that it shouldn't, or maybe a maker back door that was "suggested".
iOS at least has a little bit of a defense with Lockdown Mode, but Android desperately needs something similar where the device will not act on incoming text or other items, and will block third party programs from doing so without having to resort to root and Linux tier
Re:All governments want/have these types of things (Score:4)
Got news for you, friend: iOS is no better in this regard. Numerous examples over the years have shown that iOS can do things it's not supposed to do when it gets sent SMS and iMessage messages that use niche languages or Unicode composed characters that it wants to put a line break in the middle of.
I particularly like the way that if someone sees your PIN code and steals the phone, within minutes you can be locked out of your account and all data lost to you. They can change the Apple ID password and set a recovery key. At that point, not even Apple can help you get your data back.
Not sure if theres anything equivalent on Android, not to that extent anyway.
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What happens when a bunch of people who have been hacking phones for the government move into the private sector? What happens when that government agency gets hacked? What happens when the device manufacturer has to give the backdoor to a government on the opposite side of a trade war?
Apple, Microsoft and the NSA have destroyed American cyber infrastructure in a bi
File under "No Shit" (Score:2)
Not only are they using it, they're probably using worse.
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But you have to ban TikTok! (Score:3)
Because the Chinese might spy on you!!!!!
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They already banned Meta VR for children, but they won't ban TikTok for children? Our government works for China, not us.
You live in the USA and you think that your government should work for you? What? Are you a one percenter or something?
LOL
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Are you a one percenter or something?
Naw, he's just a dirty censor who wants to use the government to silence people he doesn't agree with or like, just like a Lefty CV19 censor but he's the far-Right version (you know, censoring for Jesus and the children rather than to protect our weak minds from disinformation). He cannot embrace the FACT that parents are responsible for their kids and if they are being harmed by social media or TikTok that is THEIR problem to deal with. Censors and authoritarian never see a problem that could use less gove
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And you're an ignorant moron who equates pernicious CCP propaganda with free speech.
I'll say again, "parents" and "users" cannot control what propaganda videos TikTok feeds them, or what the lies the CCP tells them via censorship, much less what information TikTok is collecting on users (it's been proved to be collecting a lot more info than they claim and either not providing safeguards or directly sending it to the CCP).
And they're called paragraph breaks.
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And you're an ignorant moron who equates pernicious CCP propaganda with free speech.
Little clue: propaganda is speech, you fearful genius, you. It's particularly shallow and easy to dismantle and ridicule, too. One just needs the freedom to do so.
I'll say again, "parents" and "users" cannot control what propaganda videos TikTok feeds them
Complete bullshit. Don't watch it; that's your control. It's voluntary just like watching propaganda from the Uniparty on CNN or Fox News. Take your kids phone. "Hey, you have Tiktok on your phone. I told you not to load this app. I'm deleting this app. You lose phone privileges for a week and I'm changing your Apple ID password so you cannot relo
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This. Just this.
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I'll say again, "parents" and "users" cannot control what propaganda videos TikTok feeds them, or what the lies the CCP tells them via censorship, much less what information TikTok is collecting on users (it's been proved to be collecting a lot more info than they claim and either not providing safeguards or directly sending it to the CCP).
Ohhhh so the propaganda video's that Facebook, Instagram, Youtube feed them, the "parents" and "users" can control those?
Can you explain how? I've been looking for the "No propaganda from the Right or Left" option in the settings on these apps, and you seem remarkably well informed.
Also, I'd like to subscribe to your newsletter.
TYSM
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I won't argue every point, you clearly are influenced or paid by China.
TikTok is run by an extremely hostile, fascist foreign government, not citizens of the U.S., and China has no rights here. Foreign espionage is an entirely legitimate target of U.S. law.
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I won't argue every point, you clearly are influenced or paid by China.
TikTok is run by an extremely hostile, fascist foreign government, not citizens of the U.S., and China has no rights here. Foreign espionage is an entirely legitimate target of U.S. law.
So... only US citizens, US government and US corporations are allowed to spy on Americans?
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Oversimplified, but yeah.
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Oversimplified, but yeah.
You are just SO trusting.
The perfect citizen.
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Wow, aren't you cool.
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Wow, aren't you cool.
And I'm sure China would be proud to have citizens like you, who happily believe what they are supposed to believe and do what they are supposed to do.
You don't see the world in colors nor even shades of grey, do you? You see the world in blacks and whites. Absolutes, binary. Either they are for us or they are against us. Politics is just left and right. Etc.
Nothing can save you from this but yourself. Not even Jesus. Just you. I dread to think how many more there are like you in the USA, or the world at la
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Part of the security threat from TikTok is that they can push any propaganda or censor any content they like. And users have no control over that.
In any case, if someone can prove the malware is specifically being used to spy on Americans illegally, you can try to put a stop to it. But don't ignore the very real threat from China. If they're just using it to protect plants or other infrastructure, or for defense reasons, this is not news.
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Part of the security threat from TikTok is that they can push any propaganda or censor any content they like. And users have no control over that.
Uh huh.
Tell me more about American social media platforms...
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Part of the security threat from TikTok is that they can push any propaganda or censor any content they like. And users have no control over that.
Uh huh.
Tell me more about American social media platforms...
They're American and not directly working for a foreign government intent on destroying us? They're subject to American regulation and warrants in ways a Chinese owned and run company isn't? How can you possibly not know this?
I'm pretty sure they mean law enforcement (Score:2)
When folks talk about right wing bias and media this is what we're talking about. We get a nebulous term like government agencies instead of the more specific term law enforcement. That's not an accident.
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Don't be paranoid. Saying 'government' is not a conspiracy.
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Don't be paranoid. Saying 'government' is not a conspiracy.
Conspiracies are the norm, not the exception. You've been brainwashed into thinking that conspiracies are rare.
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Don't be paranoid. Saying 'government' is not a conspiracy.
Conspiracies are the norm, not the exception. You've been brainwashed into thinking that conspiracies are rare.
There is a very strong, very well orchestrated push to shove out conspiracy theories that are the most outlandishly stupid contrivances. You hear them everywhere now. These crazier conspiracy theories are carefully constructed in a way where just enough people hear them and start to believe before they make it to a semi-sane person with a knack for fact-finding, and by the time the fact-finders challenge the conspiracy, it's already become "defacto truth" to a large enough segment of society that there's re
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No, they're not. Fuck it, I'm not arguing with moonbats and flat earthers again.
So... (Score:2)
It's the hypocrisy that bothers you? If they're using it against our enemies (states or international criminals) or to protect us against infrastructure attacks, not us, then I say no shit, keep doing your job!
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If they're using it against our enemies...not us...
This is where Government power ALWAYS falls apart. Our governments (at all levels) are largely incapable of drawing that distinction. Any power granted to a government to protect "us" against "them" will invariably be redirected from "them" towards "us", even if only occasionally. Then that power corrupts, and the difference between "us" and "them" turns into little more than an academic exercise.
Any other agency tasked with oversight will eventually forego its oversight responsibility, and become absorbed
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It's the hypocrisy that bothers you? If they're using it against our enemies (states or international criminals) or to protect us against infrastructure attacks, not us, then I say no shit, keep doing your job!
Exactly. The challenge is to have guardrails in place to prevent abuses, and take action when abuse happens. The notion that we shouldn't be using tools in the manner you describe is simplistic and wrong.
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Yep. Give them the tools they need, then watch them like hawks. Ignore the libertarians and the woketards.
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It's the hypocrisy that bothers you? If they're using it against our enemies (states or international criminals) or to protect us against infrastructure attacks, not us, then I say no shit, keep doing your job!
(On the bolded bit.) Oh my. My, my, my. You really believe any government in the world would have these tools and *NOT* use them against their own people? Have you noticed human nature and what happens to those with a little power and no oversight?
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Well, lots of them have guns and even heavy military equipment and yet don't go on regular rampages. Some even have nuclear weapons! So yeah, I don't think they can have those tools and use them properly, if there's oversight.
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*I think they CAN have and use those weapons...
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Well, lots of them have guns and even heavy military equipment and yet don't go on regular rampages. Some even have nuclear weapons! So yeah, I don't think they can have those tools and use them properly, if there's oversight.
We've seen a lot of tear gassing and rubber bullets. The way things have been going, you'll probably get to see the rest soon enough.
MICROS~1 strikes again (Score:2)
Probably but... (Score:2)
This is a blatant Chinese translation.
From TFS,
"And yes, it's very similar to its counterpart Pegasus in this ordeal" What ordeal?
"Moreover, such software can produce its target without any interaction" It produces its target? Fascinating. It is spawning things to exploit then?
And it claims Adam Schiff is Chair of the intelligence committee. Schiff was booted from the intelligence committee because of his involvement with the fabricated Steele Dossier used to start the Russiagate probe and his inaction with
How to Check - A DIY (Score:2)
The world must be changing. (Score:2)
If I had read TFA a couple years ago I would have assumed based on word usage and paragraph structure that it had been translated from another language by a non native English speaking translator. Now I assume that this was actually written by an AI text generator. This feels like a 3rd grade book report, which would be commendable if it were done by a third grader as a journalism project.
At least no human has claimed credit for generating this, or at least there is no authorship information on TFA.
Maybe
If it's illegal for us (Score:2)
It should be illegal for the government.