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US Aims To Turn Middle-American Cities Into New Tech Hubs With $500 Million Investment (cnbc.com) 56

An anonymous reader quotes a report from CNBC: The U.S. government is seeking to turn metro areas in middle America into the next hot spots of tech innovation with an initial $500 million investment. The Department of Commerce announced Friday its first notice of funding opportunity, or NOFO, for the Regional Technology and Innovation Hub program, known as Tech Hubs. It kicks off the process for eligible groups around the country to apply to be designated as Tech Hubs. That designation gives them the chance to take advantage of the funds to make their regions attractive places for entrepreneurs and technologists to live and work.

Congress authorized $10 billion for the program between fiscal years 2023 and 2027, of which $500 million is available to be distributed this year. Under the current funding opportunity, a total of $15 million in planning grants will be made available to applicants designated as Tech Hubs. Later this year, the Department will seek to award five to 10 designated Tech Hubs grants of $50 million to $75 million each to help build out capacity in their region, according to a Department of Commerce official. President Joe Biden requested $4 billion be made available for Tech Hubs in next year's budget.

Eligible applicants are groups made up of at least one entity from each of the following categories: a higher education institution, subdivision of local or state government, industry or firm in relevant tech or manufacturing field, economic development group, and labor organization or workforce training group. Under the statute, Tech Hubs should focus on a specific set of key areas of technology, which include artificial intelligence, robotics, natural disaster prevention, biotechnology, cybersecurity, energy efficiency and more. The department must designate at least 20 Tech Hubs under the law. The hope is that the infusion of funds will help regions across the country become essential centers of innovation and create more well-paying jobs across a greater swath of the nation.
"America leads the world in technological innovation. But the sad reality is that our tech ecosystem is extremely concentrated," Commerce Secretary Gina Raimondo told reporters on a briefing call Thursday, noting that 80% of U.S. venture capital money is invested in the San Francisco Bay Area, the Northeast and Southern California. "There's so much more potential for tech innovation all across the country. In the U.S. we have the best research institutions in the world. That's indisputable. And frankly, many of them are in America's heartland, far from the coast."

"President Biden is so clear on one point, which is that everyone in America deserves a fair shot at economic opportunity, no matter where they live, and they shouldn't have to move in order to get a good job," Raimondo said. "Nobody should have to leave their family or support system or network to move to New York or San Francisco just to get a good job."
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US Aims To Turn Middle-American Cities Into New Tech Hubs With $500 Million Investment

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  • Andrew Yang answered this. He said it doesn't work because if a talented entrepreneur emerges, a VC investor in Silicon Valley calls that person and says, "Leave your flunky loser employees in (middle american city) and fly out to San Jose and we'll do something BIG! So the concentration remains in NorCal because that's where the "synergy" is.
    • by TWX ( 665546 )

      And yet much of the actual work that goes into producing the physical stuff of technology, like semiconductor fabrication, takes place far away from the actual Silicon Valley these days.

      If this initiative is run smartly then they'll publicly talk about startups, but in the background they'll work with semiconductor-industry and electronics-industry manufacturers to bring production lines back from China to the United States as even Chinese manufacturing costs continue to increase, setting them up where they

      • by jmccue ( 834797 )

        One thing not mentioned, since it is clear nothing real will be done for Climate Change, this is a smart move. Get people to slowly move away from the coasts. This way there would be no Mass Migrations in the US.

        There are plenty such places in the Mississippi-Missouri Watershed or the Great Lakes Basin where the shipping of products from these factories would be fairly easy using the navigable waterways

        The only thing with the Mississippi River, based upon the weather last year (2022), the river will not be able to handle the traffic. But there is always the St Lawrence River. That should be stable for much longer.

        • At the rate the progressive socialists are destroying SF, LA, Seattle, Portland, Oakland, etc it soon won't be hard to get people moved away from the coast. Many will relocate to the midwestern cities where law and order is still enforced.

          • See the actual numbers [wikipedia.org]. It lists the 100 largest cities in the US and you can sort by different types of crime. Going by total violent crime, SF is number 37, LA is 32, Seattle is 51, and Portland is 62. Of all the ones you mentioned, Oakland is the only one with an actual high crime rate, though at number 11 it's still a ways down the list.

            Which cities have the highest rates of violent crime? The top five are St. Louis, Detroit, Baltimore, Memphis, and Kansas City. The South is by far the most violent

            • Nobody actually believes those numbers. It only takes a casual visit to thr cities to see they could not possibly be true.

              Crime statistics of course remain low when your police do nothing to respond to reported crimes.

    • Andrew Yang answered this. He said it doesn't work because if a talented entrepreneur emerges, a VC investor in Silicon Valley calls that person and says, "Leave your flunky loser employees in (middle american city) and fly out to San Jose and we'll do something BIG! So the concentration remains in NorCal because that's where the "synergy" is.

      EVERY big tech company has offices all over the place. If a big tech company can have offices in SV, Seattle, Austin, Boston, Tel Aviv, London, etc....why not another one in WI, IL, MO, MI, etc? I've long thought rather than expand to Austin, why not Detroit or St Louis? There's a ton of urban infrastructure, public transportation, huge roads, fed by giant highways, reliable power/water/etc. I remember after the 2008 subprime crash, they were selling houses in Detroit for less than 20k...the auctioneer

  • How about first connecting them with proper high speed rail, before we start throwing expensive empty words like 'tech hub' around?
    • Re: (Score:3, Informative)

      High speed rail is not even close to a reasonable transportation solution for the US. It's way more expensive than flying, takes way longer, construction is way more expensive and time consuming, and doesn't make any sense for the size of this country. We have an extensive airport network that works far better.

      The cheapest one week round trip high speed rail from Barcelona to Paris leaving today is $421 and takes over 5 hours. The same trip leaving today is $331 on Air France and takes less than 2 hours. I'

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        by account_deleted ( 4530225 ) on Saturday May 13, 2023 @12:42PM (#63518983)
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        • That is exactly the site I used for pricing, and the 5 dates between today and mid July I used all came up with the same price. Please actually post a $43 fare for the high speed train if you can find it.

          You're still wasting 2 hours on the train by your own numbers. Your preference, fine, but not the preference of the vast majority of people.

          Again, how are you going to pay for the construction? $125 billion needs to be paid back, what volume of passengers at what ticket price would actually make money? The

      • by BetterSense ( 1398915 ) on Saturday May 13, 2023 @03:17PM (#63519233)
        Your argument reads like a person trapped in the 1920s insisting color films will never catch on. It's OK and I understand. It's difficult to grasp just how backwards North American transportation policy is, and tempting to make up stories to convince yourself there's a legitimate reason for it rather than just dysfunction and corruption.

        You ignore that the supposed 2 hour flight requires two hours of security and commuting too/from the airport as well, whereas high speed rail usually runs on 15 minute intervals and you can just walk on. If you believe the TSA, and get to the airport 2 hours before your flight, you'd spend 4 hours of your theoretical commute stuck in airports or security.

        Your argument ignores that planes get delayed and cancelled frequently, especially in bad weather, while trains are much more reliable.

        Your argument ignores that airplane interiors are inhumane sardine cans, while trains can have bars in them.

        Your argument pretends those supposed 600 airports were free to build, are free to travel to, and that trains can't also connect to other trains and the same airports for that matter.

        Your argument ignores that trains are electric whereas planes drink oil and belch CO2. Even if you don't care about the CO2, planes still absolutely require a stable petro-economy to function.

        Your argument ignores that the US had a comprehensive and successful passenger train network already for 100+ years before it was dismantled as a very direct result of misguided federal transportation policy, disproving the supposed "vastness of the US" fable.

        Your argument ignores that high speed rail already functions worldwide in corridors with lower population density, higher land area, and lower GDP than equivalent corridors in the US, again disproving the "vastness of the US" argument.

        No, the US absolutely needs trains. The real reason we don't have them is the federal government decided to go all-in spending billions on a "cars only" transportation policy and ignore passenger rail. That's the reason.
      • Very high speed rail average (not top) speed is 124 mph.

        Who fed you that one? Name and shame, please!

        The most expensive airport built in the US, Denver, cost about $5 billion. For the same cost as that one rail corridor, you could have 25 massive airports which you can travel anywhere in the world

        They built that airport out in the middle of nowhere in order to save money. So yes, if you want to transport people from nowhere to nowhere, airports are one way to do it.

        Now let's compare the cost of building a

        • There is a train line downtown to the airport now. They have been talking about a line to Colorado Springs for a couple years now but I think they are stalled on money and locations for it

          Of course none of it is HSR, but at least the options are growing, if slowly.

  • by argStyopa ( 232550 ) on Saturday May 13, 2023 @08:22AM (#63518519) Journal

    Since Beyonce's latest tour will cost $2 bn, I assert we can usefully communicate the actual value of this government investment by calling it "1/4 Beyonce" showing simultaneously the triviality of this investment and absurdity of what our society values.

  • The first $5 million will be spent studying the problem of what to do to spur tech innovation. Then, they will study the problem again when they don't like the answer. Then the design phase begins, which eats up the rest of the grant. Finally, when it comes time to build, three years later, the federal program has ended.
    • Don't worry. The only thing this is supposed to actually accomplish is another method of diverting money to Democratic party allies and organizers. It's a slush fund for well-connected Democratic city politicians and their buddies, just like "green jobs" is a way to pay off some of their business allies.

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  • ...the land that gave us Napoleon Dynamite: https://www.youtube.com/watch?... [youtube.com]

    It'd make a great tech-hub, right? Imagine all that synergy!
    • by fermion ( 181285 )
      Sorry, I do t want to be brutally murdered
      • Neither do we, stay in CA or NY or where ever.

        • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

          by fermion ( 181285 )
          Idaho. 18 people killed with guns per hundred thousand. California 8. New York 5.
          • What a weird statistic to cherry pick. Why don't you just use homicide excluding non-negligent manslaughter? What are you trying to obfuscate? Why include suicides, or are you at risk?

            Are you ok?

            • by fermion ( 181285 )
              First, I am always willing to stipulate that a great number of gun deaths in hell hole white states like Vermont or Idaho are suicides. I suppose if I had to live in such desolation without culture or educated friends I might kill myself.

              Second, a large number of the other deaths are accidents or justified. Killing a spouse or daughters date while cleaning the gun. Killing a delivery driver that trespasses. Killing a black person walking through a white space. All acceptable.

              But a dead person is a dead

              • You said "sorry, I dont want to be brutally murdered" Then you quoted statistics about "suicides... accidents or justified" And of course the racism to take it over the top. You made a claim, didn't find the evidence to back up your claim then used an attempt to muddy the water with anecdotes that are not germane to the claim you made.

                On a hunch I took a quick look at your post history, I see you are neuro-atypical, seek help brother, there are many resources available, it is never too late, you dont have

  • What is the purpose of this program? Why does the govt care where "hubs" are located? The only purpose of this program is simply graft: give money to your buddies, probably in this case based on some identity politics nonsense.

    • Re:Why? (Score:4, Insightful)

      by lenski ( 96498 ) on Saturday May 13, 2023 @12:21PM (#63518959)

      What is the purpose of this program? Why does the govt care where "hubs" are located? The only purpose of this program is simply graft: give money to your buddies, probably in this case based on some identity politics nonsense.

      Oh no! we are so triggered! Identity politics nonsense!

      I'm guessing you don't have a clue who invented identity politics. It was written into our constitution, ratified in 1787. It took 3/4 of a century to get to the 13th and 14th amendments to weaken the original "identity politics" structure of this nation, and an additional near 3/4 of a century beyond that to grant the franchise to women.

      The bottom line is that many of us know exactly where "identity politics" came from, and we know that was not libruls who invented that nonsense.

  • That's nothing. Jay Inslee had to promise a $4 billion budget item to even attract more homeless people to our state.

  • by mdvx ( 4169463 )
    lol
  • Why? (Score:3, Insightful)

    by thedarb ( 181754 ) on Saturday May 13, 2023 @08:05PM (#63519591)

    I don't want to live in racist wastelands where my wife would be forced to have a baby she doesn't want, and there is no medical care available because all the gynecologists left. I don't want to work with the products of their underfunded education system, or products of religious schools who don't understand a lick of science. I don't want to be the only fuel efficient or electric car on the road, and only to be choked by trucks wanting to blow black diesel smoke at me. Sure... the houses are cheaper... for a reason. Those places are not hospitable to intelligent life.

    • Fortunately, the people who live there don't want people like you to live there either. So you can both get what you want!

    • Rest assured that people who mischaracterize as women hating racists also would like it if closed minded and noninclusive folks remain in their urban enclaves.

  • Talk about out of touch.

    Did we not just go through a workplace revolution over the past 3 years where there was a massive exodus from tech hubs, to rural areas, because literally everyone found out they could work remotely from their location of choice - more efficiently, and more happily?

    The only thing this will do is make middle America towns and cities popular destinations for tourism.

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