'The Broad, Vague RESTRICT Act Is a Dangerous Substitute For Comprehensive Data Privacy Legislation' (eff.org) 76
The recently introduced RESTRICT Act, otherwise known as the "TikTok ban," is a dangerous substitute for comprehensive data privacy legislation, writes the Electronic Frontier Foundation in a blog post. From the post: As we wrote in our initial review of the bill, the RESTRICT Act would authorize the executive branch to block 'transactions' and 'holdings' of 'foreign adversaries' that involve 'information and communication technology' and create 'undue or unacceptable risk' to national security and more. We've explained our opposition to the RESTRICT Act and urged everyone who agrees to take action against it. But we've also been asked to address some of the concerns raised by others. We do that here in this post. At its core, RESTRICT would exempt certain information services from the federal statute, known as the Berman Amendments, which protects the free flow of information in and out of the United States and supports the fundamental freedom of expression and human rights concerns. RESTRICT would give more power to the executive branch and remove many of the commonsense restrictions that exist under the Foreign Intelligence Services Act (FISA) and the aforementioned Berman Amendments. But S. 686 also would do a lot more.
EFF opposes the bill, and encourages you to reach out to your representatives to ask them not to pass it. Our reasons for opposition are primarily that this bill is being used as a cudgel to protect data from foreign adversaries, but under our current data privacy laws, there are many domestic adversaries engaged in manipulative and invasive data collection as well. Separately, handing relatively unchecked power over to the executive branch to make determinations about what sort of information technologies and technology services are allowed to enter the U.S. is dangerous. If Congress is concerned about foreign powers collecting our data, it should focus on comprehensive consumer data privacy legislation that will have a real impact, and protect our data no matter what platform it's on -- TikTok, Facebook, Twitter, or anywhere else that profits from our private information. That's why EFF supports such consumer data privacy legislation. Foreign adversaries won't be able to get our data from social media companies if the social media companies aren't allowed to collect, retain, and sell it in the first place. EFF says it's not clear if the RESTRICT Act will even result in a "ban" on TikTok. It does, however, have potential to punish people for using a VPN to access TikTok if it is restricted. In conclusion, the group says the bill is similar to a surveillance bill and is "far too broad in the power it gives to investigate potential user data."
EFF opposes the bill, and encourages you to reach out to your representatives to ask them not to pass it. Our reasons for opposition are primarily that this bill is being used as a cudgel to protect data from foreign adversaries, but under our current data privacy laws, there are many domestic adversaries engaged in manipulative and invasive data collection as well. Separately, handing relatively unchecked power over to the executive branch to make determinations about what sort of information technologies and technology services are allowed to enter the U.S. is dangerous. If Congress is concerned about foreign powers collecting our data, it should focus on comprehensive consumer data privacy legislation that will have a real impact, and protect our data no matter what platform it's on -- TikTok, Facebook, Twitter, or anywhere else that profits from our private information. That's why EFF supports such consumer data privacy legislation. Foreign adversaries won't be able to get our data from social media companies if the social media companies aren't allowed to collect, retain, and sell it in the first place. EFF says it's not clear if the RESTRICT Act will even result in a "ban" on TikTok. It does, however, have potential to punish people for using a VPN to access TikTok if it is restricted. In conclusion, the group says the bill is similar to a surveillance bill and is "far too broad in the power it gives to investigate potential user data."
Comprehensive Data Privacy Legislation lol Right! (Score:1, Flamebait)
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Teaching children anal and oral sex would probably have a very positive outcome on the teen pregnancy rates. Isn't that something you red wave folks love to babble about?
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oh, limiting freedom of expression is perfectly acceptable as long as it aligns with your morals then?
In that case, my morals leads me to hate right wing pundits. so you're cool with me campaigning to have Tucker Carlson silenced by law? You conservative nutjobs are equally as deranged as left wing nutjobs, but at least left wing nutjobs don't pretend to be libertarian.
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If Fascism offends you so much, feel free to seek asylum in North Korea, or pick any of the failed states in Africa if you feel the North Korea is too fascist. I note you didn't really respond to the As usualy its only the illiberal left that is really trying to silence anyone is it your supposition that b/c lefties don't claim to be libertarians that makes it ok? After all the lefties absolute
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Glad to know conservatives finally admit they have no issue with the overbearing hand of the state coming from top down and regulating what happens at what is designed to be a very local system. The local school board administrations staff and PTA groups, they cannot be trusted to run their schools, high time the state comes in and dictates what should happen.
These are the same people who want to eliminate the DOE becuase "schools should be local". What a joke.
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Don’t forget Kansas voting to inspect children’s genitals. https://www.newsweek.com/kansa... [newsweek.com]
Patriot Act part 2 on steroids. (Score:4, Interesting)
"Section 6: Patriot Act 2.0: Gag orders, secret FISA court proceedings, public information blackouts and special administrative exemptions? If that all sounds familiar from the post-9/11 era, you'll get where this is going. If you happen to know a first-year law student, have them read this and watch how wide their eyes get"
https://www.salon.com/2023/04/... [salon.com]
Not to use a VPN (Score:4, Insightful)
have potential to punish people for using a VPN to access TikTok if it is restricted
This bill seem to have a VPN ban built into it. As it contains criminal provisions against circumvention.
This bill also seem to have Bi-Partisan supported and will Probably sweep through both houses and get an easy signature within months; compared to much more beneficial legislation having to wait years before even being discussed.. I'm afraid that any lobbying efforts against it will ultimately be in vain, As one thing the powers that be can agree upon is they want the government to have more power over digital communications and communications technology to curtail information or services they see as a threat.
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This is a frontal assault on competition to FedNow by way of the necessary supporting technologies.
VPNs are collateral damage. TikTok was an afterthought.
Re:Not to use a VPN (Score:4, Interesting)
have potential to punish people for using a VPN to access TikTok if it is restricted
This bill seem to have a VPN ban built into it. As it contains criminal provisions against circumvention.
This bill also seem to have Bi-Partisan supported and will Probably sweep through both houses and get an easy signature within months; compared to much more beneficial legislation having to wait years before even being discussed.. I'm afraid that any lobbying efforts against it will ultimately be in vain, As one thing the powers that be can agree upon is they want the government to have more power over digital communications and communications technology to curtail information or services they see as a threat.
You may be right that the bipartisan support means this has a lot of inertia to overcome, but there is one clear solution to stop this tide, contact the campaign donors to your local congressional supporters and complain to them about the actions of "their" candidate. Boycott the donor's products, and raise question of their subversion of our freedom to assemble on the Internet. Raise the questions publicly and loudly. When the money changes it's mind, so to will their government puppets.
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Do our congress critters have a list of sponsors we can contact? That'd be massively helpful.
Re:Not to use a VPN (Score:4, Informative)
Open Secrets for Congress [opensecrets.org]
Be surprised how much is actually public record. Not everything but quite a bit
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That's interesting, but doesn't really get you to an individual business level unless I'm missing something in my clicking around. It seems more broken out by categories. Like "Oil & Gas." OK? Who do I contact at Oil & Gas?
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Yeah the business categories are a grouping since businesses are restricted from donating directly to campaigns (businesses can donate to PACs) so its a grouping of where individual donors work.
Heres a more discreet example of the Republican Majority Official PAC individual donors:
https://www.opensecrets.org/po... [opensecrets.org]
The FEC also catalogs all individual donors.
https://fec.gov/data/receipts/... [fec.gov]
Now as I understand certain PAC's don't have to report donors due to the Citizens United ruling (which created what we c
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but there is one clear solution to stop this tide, contact the campaign donors to your local congressional supporters and complain to them about the actions of "their" candidate.
You should realize this is about control. The people who want control will not be swayed from their goal through money. 1984 is inevitable(?)... and it will destroy civilization and may even wipe out the human race entirely (unlikely).
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For one, OF COURSE this bill will pass with flying colors in record time. Any bill that gives the government yet more creepy-ass control over our lives will be shoved through as fast as possible by those that want more power.
And who would lobby against this? More control means the big business actually running our government get more control too. More control over the internet keeps the small players either so microscopic in scale they're no threat, or they get shoved out through regulations they can't jump
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Dunno.
It seems we have a moral panic ever decade or so with corresponding legislation attempting to be rammed through (thus far with limited success).
Think they might have overplayed their hand and now is an ideal time for policy wonks to present a comprehensive privacy protection plan in lieu of the RESTRICT Act. Make the hypocrisy glaring enough and something good might actually come of this.
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Dunno.
It seems we have a moral panic ever decade or so with corresponding legislation attempting to be rammed through (thus far with limited success).
Think they might have overplayed their hand and now is an ideal time for policy wonks to present a comprehensive privacy protection plan in lieu of the RESTRICT Act. Make the hypocrisy glaring enough and something good might actually come of this.
Only every decade? Hell, I tripped over six moral panics on my way through the parking lot this morning. What utopia you living in?
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have potential to punish people for using a VPN to access TikTok if it is restricted
This bill seem to have a VPN ban built into it. As it contains criminal provisions against circumvention.
I currently have no social media of any kind, however, if this passes I will install the scourge that is TikTok and make sure it is KNOWN that I am using a VPN to access it.
This is a hill I will die on. They will NOT get away with telling me what I can and can not access. FUCK THAT!
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if this passes I will install the scourge that is TikTok and make sure it is KNOWN that I am using a VPN to access it.
Sure.. I mean good luck. Not that this would put the VPN users on the government's radar; Instead they will likely pursue their criminal actions against whatever hosting companies are providing people in the US the software and services.
It doesn't happen immediately that all VPNs get turned off, but it gives the government tools which will be used to get all VPN services shut down, mod
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Essentially... the Act lets the government build the "Great Firewall of USA"
Yes it does, and that is why I will become ungovernable. If this passes, everyone needs to protest this by ignoring it. If the majority of the populace ignores a law, what are they going to do?
This is a blatant violation of the first amendment. I can post speech on TikTok, this takes that freedom away -- there is literally no other way to interpret it.
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This bill also seem to have Bi-Partisan supported and will Probably sweep through both houses and get an easy signature within months [...] one thing the powers that be can agree upon is they want the government to have more power[...]
I for one am SHOCKED, shocked I say! Imagine those in power voting to give themselves more power! And in the name of security no less. Who could imagine our brave leaders trading our freedom for their security?
/sarcasm
Re:Oh I am going to get modded to hell (Score:5, Informative)
I think that your post just highlights your own ignorance of how things work these days.
We are a small, regional business, but yet our web site is hosted, in part, on EU servers because that's where it was developed by an international company.
We have contract workers who work remotely in India.
We have people who travel abroad regularly.
All of these things require secure communications. And we are just a little company. Imagine the interconnections that a large, multinational corporation has.
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Oh I get it. However all of those entities are business, they should be incorporated somewhere - it should be a simple enough thing for you be able to go on a some site a register that you are going to build a VPN between most of those endpoints; what they are and what the intended use is, and you have some road warriors who will access your corporate VPN.
Then you go ahead and do it. The rules automatically get added to the great-firewall-of-America after things like tax-id numbers for the entities and nob
Re:Oh I am going to get modded to hell (Score:4, Insightful)
it should be a simple enough thing for you be able to go on a some site a register that you are going to build a VPN between most of those endpoints
Oh fuck you, delete your computer and get the fuck off the internet. Nobody should have to register to build a VPN, the entire point is to avoid monitoring and observation of your communications.
The rules automatically get added to the great-firewall-of-America after things like tax-id numbers for the entities and nobody is on any watch lists are verified and off you go!
So you want to turn America into a dictatorship with no true freedom of speech like China? Please never reproduce. Not that there's much chance of that given your social deficiencies.
Even your signature trying to give states the right to just appoint senators without a vote is fucked in the head. You and yours are detrimental to a productive, reasonable, working society, and the entire world would be better off if you weren't able to speak to anyone ever again.
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Such a clearly rational and considered response. I know its difficult to find to think and write while you have some Big Tech executives dick in your mouth but try..
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Also, nice ad-hominem attack with no substance or actual point. Guessing you're a trumptard based on that. Choke on a fucking dick and die.
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"Even your signature trying to give states the right to just appoint senators without a vote is fucked in the head. "
States simply appointing Senators without a vote was never the case even before the 17th Amendment passed. Under the Constitution, State Legislators voted on who would be their state's Senators. After the 17th passed, they were voted into office by majority vote of the people of the state, exactly the way Congressional Representatives have always been. Obviously there were arguments made for
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You HACTUALLY neckbeard libertarian rejects can suck my fat white cock and choke on it.
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Wow! What an amazingly childish tantrum you've just thrown! Merely pointing out a mistake you made and giving you a link so you could educate yourself is cause for you to post other crap and call me names. You must have realized that what you originally said was *bullshit* and had to change the subject, toss in other things you shit yourself over to cover it up. Oh, no, *you're* a special child! You can never be wrong! LOL
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This alone proves you're a fucking reject neckbeard basement dweller trump ball gargler. You're an ignorant, evil piece of shit and you should fuck off and die before you contaminate the gene pool any further.
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Oh, that's impressive! I mean, considering that you have the reputation of not being able to form complete sentences. Ooo! And more name calling! I'm soooo impressed!
OK, OK, OK... Just so we're clear, is this your personal contribution to the "Trans Day of Vengeance" or is it more of an ANTIFA/BLM sort of thing? If not, then how much yuan do you get paid for your on-line shit-posting? If it's enough maybe I'll do that too when I retire. LOL!
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The best thing you can do for the planet at this point is to no longer be alive.
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Now, now, now... You never called me out. After I pointed out that you were wrong you threw a conniption fit and started calling me names. A reasonable adult would have admitted they were wrong, had misspoke, or something similar. Your reaction, however, was to return to calling me names. And you continue along that line. Now, who's the "sad teenager"?
Does mommy and daddy know you're back on the internet again?
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It's pretty clear there's far worse "enemies of the state" than foreign actors. Idiots like DarkOx's proposals would just be another further step that would ensure there's absolutely no difference between so called "authoritarian" governments and the US. But apparently jingoism and xenophobia is going to win the day, just like what happened with the Weimar Republic.
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Sure whatever; just realize by both opposing this and resisting solving what is a very real problem you will condemn us to something much much worse.
I am sorry you are so unimaginative that you can only see the 20th centuries implementation of facism as threat; and are completely blind to a far more secretive far more insidious version being actively implemented right under your nose!
The choice is not do this or the nation/world stays as it was in 1999 - its do this or at least constructively fix it; becaus
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See thought AC that is exactly what you are doing while being to stupid to see it.
Let me explain - In China the CCP enacts some very law implemented by offical that were appointed not elected that gives them legal cover to do whatever they like. You do something they don't like, you literally disappear, even when you are high enough profile Western media will take note and write article s about your conspicuous disappearance, The CCP actually likes being embarrassed that way the fact they are not cowed by
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You're barking up the wrong tree. The real answer is to actually support real education for our students. Then you're not worried about what messages China is sending out via random app.
VPNs and encrypted communications are absolute necessities for just about any company with more than 1 employee. Our economy would not survive and many companies would get breached as they try to remain in compliance with an absurdly draconian law.
Teach kids to think better which means actually paying teachers better while
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> Is there really any question TikTok is being used for information gathering, possibly intentionally harming the development of youth, and likely being used to manipulate public perceptions and national conversation, all at the hands of quasi-hostile foreign power?
This question is dumb and you're dumb for asking it.
The problem isn't foreign social media companies, the problem is domestic social media companies. Foreign governments don't have jurisdiction over you, the American government does. Yet you n
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Fuck you, you fascist pig
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VPNs and encrypted traffic (YES even HTTPS) SHOULD NOT be allowed over national borders except to registered endpoints within specifically sanctioned nations. International business can host sites domestically and move information on the backend using REGISTERED VPNs, and they can be held to account for the traffic that comes over them. Media like international news can be made available by plain http
In other words, you believe that...
1) People are guilty until proven innocent. Because your suggestion amounts to a digital "papers, please" and if you believed in innocence until proven guilty you wouldn't be putting the onus where you did.
2) Tyrannical rule is right. Because if you believed a citizen had an inherent human right to circumvent the amoral rules of a tyrannical government you wouldn't take away their most fundamental tools to do so.
3) Privacy is a privilege. Because if you believed people and
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A well intentioned tyranny is the worst sort of tyranny.
“Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.”
-C.S. Lewis
VPNs and encrypted traffic (Score:1)
in reality I can see this administration going all in and using it domestically on their political opponents and those they disagree with. The DOJ and FBI are already doing it. FISA was not even a speed bump to them they just ignored it. And the closer the election comes the more vicious the the man will get.
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You don't have to have a solution to the problem before saying "this is a problem". That's a pretty pointless gate to keep as well.
Modest Proposal IF you want govt to fix this (Score:2)
I guess people don't bother, because it's so obvious. Anyway, the easiest rebuttal solution is to do nothing; keep the status quo. Surely that's better than this.
But I know that's unsatisfying, so I'll give a second answer. If one is sufficiently concerned about malware that they think government should forcefully impose policies to prevent users from unwittingly choosing to run ma
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Okay great but why go after VPNs? Like who in their right mind would try to use TikTok over a VPN when most non-VPN-using Americans would be forced to drop the platform?
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Interesting (Score:2)
Lots and lots (and lots) of relatively-conservative streamers/radio personalities have services like NordVPN as a sponsor. Kiss your sponsorship dollars goodbye if this bill passes.
Looking at you, Ben Shapiro [expressvpn.com].
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He is also against gun restriction laws. Until a trans person did a mass shooting anyway, then suddenly he supported red flag laws. Don't fool yourself into thinking these people actually have principles.
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Money talks. Bullshit walks.
Restrict Act is over the top on purpose (Score:2)
Congress doesn't want an on-the-record vote to ban TikTok. The Restrict Act is Congress' attempt to deflect calls for this vote.
The Restrict Act will fail to get a vote because it's Orwellian. Then they'll point fingers elsewhere and claim they tried.
$1 million fine for using TikTok?!?! (Score:3)
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Like TFA says, it is not even clear the bill bans TikTok. The bill is more about the government banning any means for you to hide from them what you are doing in your life. Which might sound all nice and dandy, if you are afraid of the criminals, but will sound something else if you are afraid of the government or the thought police. And seeing where the US is going, it is becoming more and more obvious where you should put your worries.
About the meaning of freedom. There really ever has been three kinds of
Foreign actors (Score:5, Interesting)
I don't know if provisions of this act are good or terrible, but everyone seems to forget that for the past over 90 years, foreign ownership of broadcasters in the US has been severely limited -- Communications Act of I think it was 1931. The idea that foreigners must not be in control of information is nothing new.
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CDA act anyone? (Score:2)
To me, this act is as much about blocking Tik-Tok as the CDA was about "protecting children online". At best, it sort of works, but at worst, it can wind up with a lot of people facing hefty criminal charges for almost nothing.
I almost wonder if the anti-VPN provisions are more of to keep people from hitting their favorite torrents than it is about blocking foreign propaganda sites.
Read section 2 (8) (Score:2)
Just starting to read this. Toward the beginning, it gives a vague description the kinds of governments the author doesn't like, then states a specific list of countries and individuals:
8) FOREIGN ADVERSARY.—The term “foreign adversary”—
(A) means any foreign government or regime, determined by the Secretary, pursuant to sections 3 and 5, to have engaged in a long-term pattern or serious instances of conduct significantly adverse to the national security of the United States or the security and safety of United States persons; and
That could be whoever the current administration doesn't like. There's no specific set of actions or requirements. Is there a way to be removed from the list?
(B) includes, unless removed by the Secretary pursuant to section 6—
(i) the People’s Republic of China, including the Hong Kong Special Administrative Region and Macao Special Administrative Region;
(ii) the Republic of Cuba;
(iii) the Islamic Republic of Iran;
(iv) the Democratic People’s Republic of Korea;
(v) the Russian Federation; and
(vi) the Bolivarian Republic of Venezuela under the regime of Nicolás Maduro Moros.
Naming Nicolas Maduro specifically violates Article 1, Section 9, Clause 3 of the United States Constitution AKA "No Bills of Attainder." (Although realistically, i
Are we trying to outdo China? (Score:1)