FTX Founder Sam Bankman-Fried Arrested (coindesk.com) 171
The Royal Bahamas Police Force arrested FTX founder Sam Bankman-Fried, a press statement said. CoinDesk reports: The arrest came after the U.S. filed criminal charges against Bankman-Fried, the statement said, and the nation expects the U.S. to request The Bahamas extradite Bankman-Fried in short order. "As a result of the notification received and the material provided therewith, it was deemed appropriate for the Attorney General to seek SBF's arrest and hold him in custody pursuant to our nation's Extradition Act," the statement, attributed to Attorney General Ryan Pinder, said. "At such time as a formal request for extradition is made, The Bahamas intends to process it promptly, pursuant to Bahamian law and its treaty obligations with the United States."
A tweet from the U.S. Attorney's Office for the Southern District of New York confirmed that prosecutors in the U.S. indicted Bankman-Fried, though the indictment remains under seal. In the Bahamas' statement, Bahamas Prime Minister Philip Davis said the country would continue pursuing its own investigation into FTX's collapse, alongside the U.S.'s criminal charges. Bankman-Fried was set to testify virtually before the House Financial Services Committee about the exchange's collapse on Tuesday.
A tweet from the U.S. Attorney's Office for the Southern District of New York confirmed that prosecutors in the U.S. indicted Bankman-Fried, though the indictment remains under seal. In the Bahamas' statement, Bahamas Prime Minister Philip Davis said the country would continue pursuing its own investigation into FTX's collapse, alongside the U.S.'s criminal charges. Bankman-Fried was set to testify virtually before the House Financial Services Committee about the exchange's collapse on Tuesday.
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You forgot to ask us to click the bell icon too.
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I heard he had flown to South America at some point after the crash so I was kind of surprised he was still in the Bahamas. Maybe that flight to South America was just a rumor. I didn't investigate the case that much.
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The podcast Behind the bastards [behindthebastards.com] had an episode [iheart.com] about him recently. An inportant factor to his downfall was that he pissed of a wealthy neighbour.
And the FTX "organisation" was run with so little control and oversight that one of the guys working in the business of finacial damage control, having worked on the Enron case among other cases earlier, said he had never seen anything as bad as this before. I highly recommend listening to the episode (and the whole podcast).
Re:Vote plz (Score:5, Informative)
He wasn't hiding. He's been at his party mansion giving interviews since the scam collapsed.
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Because no one knows where Anonymous Coward lives.
His cute nerd GF, Caroline Ellison (Score:2)
She ran Alameda who had an open Credit line with FTX. She needs to go visit Liz Theranos in the slammer. Look up an interview with her where shes acts like a kindergarten teacher sctualky claiming that you only need grade school math to run her business. A financial institution with billions of client assets under management.
What freaks me out wad that all the in-the-know types in the financial world were pretty clear abou the Fried setup. The two firms were supposed to be firewalled but the CEOs if both fi
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I am honestly surprised. Obviously he should have been arrested, but I was starting to think he was going to be untouchable, possibly with some leverage over powerful people.
What leverage over powerful people? The decision to extradite would be made a few levels away from the top. It isn't Biden's, Pelosi's, five more names that I don't know, job to get an arrest warrant for some scammer.
So if that person making the decision is approached by some "powerful people", they either tell the next person above them who isn't bought, and in the end they'd tell Biden, and if that didn't help they'd tell diSantis (probably not Trump at this point).
Works out just fine (Score:2)
Bankman-Fried was set to testify virtually before the House Financial Services Committee about the exchange's collapse on Tuesday.
Maybe he can now testify in person?
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Apparently they already told him to shut up a long time ago. He obviously didn't, though.
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His lawyers will beg and beg for him to take the fifth. Eventually they'll give up and ask "your honor, we'd like permission to gag our client with a dirty sock."
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I have this hunch they'll ask for the permission to use superglue and the prosecution will only accept if they also do the nose.
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Not just his lawyers. A former prosecutor I follow on social media was pleading with him to stop talking himself into prison. SBF rejected the advice.
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His lawyers will undoubtedly tell him to plead the fifth.
He undoubtedly knows better than his lawyers.
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It may never have crossed his mind that he could ever actually skin his knee if he fell over, because why would it? People like him don't go to jail.
It seems a bit like that Theranos lady.
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He has the right to remain silent now that he has been arrested.
He had that right before. Everyone does, except if they've been granted immunity in exchange for testimony, in which case they can't invoke the 5th.
My question is, how's he going to pay his lawyers? Crypto coin?
He claims he's worth "close to nothing" now, but there's assets that have been acquired in the Bahamas that, if he tries to convert them to cash, you can be sure they'll be seized as proceeds of crime. They're probably in the process of being seized now anyway.
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This guy is not exactly a sympathetic figure. Defending him pro bono is probably a stain that won't come out in the laundry. And what's the defense? "I was stupid, but not so stupid to shift over a quarter billion of assets to the Bahamas?"
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His family is pretty well connected bunch of professors and not exactly poor, I'm sure they'll find representation without issues.
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He himself has stated ...
This isn't a person who's words you should believe.
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Nah, don't believe conspiracy retards either. Sometimes you just have to say, "We don't have enough evidence to draw a conclusion."
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As I've heard it, even Trump won't give money to the GOP. Still accepting donations though.
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Why would Trump give money to the GOP? He's taking their money for his legal defense.
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But Ol' Musky assured me that he's untouchable because he paid off the dems!
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"Personally" - that's nice, how about corporate donations, anyone other than SBF. That he personally did one thing doesn't mean the organization as a whole did likewise. They might have, they might not have, but the assertion is FTX, not SBF "personally."
The corporate "shield" doesn't protect against personal liability for criminal behavior. So it has no bearing as to whether he personally goes to jail.
Re: Works out just fine (Score:2)
Ugh, keep reading this as Small Block Ford.
Sometimes being a car geek makes acronyms harder to read.
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Why so complicated? It can be summed up as "Official position: Believe whatever bullshit peddler supports your preconceived opinion and consider it a fact".
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True, SBF paid out to Dem causes much more than he did to GOP ones and it didn't do him a damn bit of good. If he had given money only to the Republicans rather than both, he could have counted on the 'team Trump' advantage in the courts like many of their career criminals.
If giving money to politicians did you any good, then some politicians would need to get arrested.
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Well, we already have the money, do you expect him to be able to cough up more? Then why the hell do we still need him?
Protective Custody (Score:3)
I wonder how many folks want him dead. Guess we will see who has the real power.
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Or he could just work on a stadium construction crew.
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Weird. Many people would have lost far more than tens of thousands of dollars. (Even if you didn't hold any money at FTX, this made the entire market take a giant dump.) Is one human life worth tens of thousands of dollars? Depends on what country you're from I guess. Death might be too easy of an escape for SBF. Rotting in the worst prison in the world might be a step better. Maybe send him to the Russian Gulag slave camps?
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No, Putin would give him a medal. Unless of course some of the oligarchs were dumb enough to use FTX in which case he'd accidentally fall out a window (there's an epidemic of that in Russia, they really should put up signs).
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Thereis even a Wikipedia article about falling-from-window syndrome which has strangely been compounded by a wave of suicides and other mysterious ills.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... [wikipedia.org]
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Anecdotally, convicted financial/white collar criminals generally have an easy time in prison, to the extent that it's ever easy. The criminal culture behind bars actually admired Bernie Madoff allegedly. They probably wanted to learn from him--prison can be like a college for cons.
Madoff died in prison. Hope that was one of the lessons.
Damn, Sorry CryptoBro, (Score:2)
Forgot [wsfa.com] to hit send.
They took their sweet time (Score:3)
Only good thing that can be said about him is that he did not run. Maybe he _is_ a true believer and just has, in the time-honored tradition of true believers, done all that massive damage with only the best intentions.
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Oh he was untouchable till the high ups managed to hide their involvement. Once that happened it was easy to throw him under the bus.
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Oh he was untouchable till the high ups managed to hide their involvement. Once that happened it was easy to throw him under the bus.
He was the founder and CEO. There is no higher up.
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Sorry, but I was thinking of politicians.
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Sorry, but I was thinking of politicians.
Based on what?
That me made some political donations and played the philanthropist / public intellectual?
Whose going to turn down the money? Where's the evidence that someone was inappropriately influenced much less "involved".
And who would trust Brinkman to take a bullet for these unnamed politicians?
You're just creating random conspiracy theories.
Re: They took their sweet time (Score:2)
He gave money to the people that were supposed to oversee him which instead focused their efforts on Binance and other smaller operations which is what triggered this whole thing in the first place, the question from Binance CEO was why he wasnâ(TM)t being investigated for anything.
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He gave money to the people that were supposed to oversee him which instead focused their efforts on Binance and other smaller operations which is what triggered this whole thing in the first place,
Who? The FTC? I'm pretty sure you can't donate to them.
Some random Democratic candidates? Did any of them have sway with the FTC?
I'm sure there are folks who donate to the right candidates, hire the right lobbyists, and make the right friends, and get inappropriately favourable regulatory treatment as a result.
But this guy seems too much of a putz for that. I'm thinking he was just new enough that no one had got around to it yet. The Binance probe in another story started in 2018 and they're still deciding
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If Epstein couldn't keep himself from getting arrested (considering Epstein had actual blackmail material), then this little crypto bro isn't going to be able to.
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If Epstein couldn't keep himself from getting arrested (considering Epstein had actual blackmail material), then this little crypto bro isn't going to be able to.
Oh, Epstein totally avoided jail based influence/blackmail [wikipedia.org]. The only reason he eventually ended up in prison is it hit the national papers and it was impossible to not prosecute him at that point.
Furthermore, if his Rolodex only involved one party I suspect his partners would have been exposed at some point since the scandal would be too juicy. The fact that the beans never got spilled tells me that both US parties found it in their interest to keep him quiet. I still suspect he killed himself (though I'm s
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Epstein's defense lawyers included Roy Black, Gerald Lefcourt, Harvard Law School professor Alan Dershowitz, and former U.S. Solicitor General Ken Starr.
That's a high profile defense team.
Epstein straight up getting offed in prison is the one conspiracy theory I wouldn't be surprised to find out was true.
This guy died the same way. [wikipedia.org] It would be interesting to do some kind of investigation into the hanging suicide of high profile prisoners, to see if that's a preferred method of some organization.
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but Epstein straight up getting offed in prison is the one conspiracy theory I wouldn't be surprised to find out was true.
Might have looked a bit like the raid on the Romans in "Life of Brian" with the different attackers stumbling over each other....
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It's pretty clear that the ignorance is strong with this one.
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Indeed. Disconnect on an impressively advanced level.
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Only good thing that can be said about him is that he did not run. Maybe he _is_ a true believer and just has, in the time-honored tradition of true believers, done all that massive damage with only the best intentions.
He was hiding in Brazil, where apparently he bought lots of stuff using money scammed from "the business."
Ho only agreed to testify virtually. He definitely didn't want to go back to the USA, where he knew he would be arrested.
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He did run. He left the US and went to the Bahamas.
Maybe he just didn't bribe the Bahamas authorities enough money.
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He did run. He left the US and went to the Bahamas.
No he didn't. He moved to the Bahamas in 2021. It's his primary residence. In order to "run" from something you need to have something to run from. Did he know a year in advance he was going to blow up his business in such a spectacular fashion?
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Judging from how much he knows about the rest of the world and in general, I could even imagine that he thought he couldn't get arrested there.
He knows so little that it's hard to gauge just how little.
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Only good thing that can be said about him is that he did not run. Maybe he _is_ a true believer and just has, in the time-honored tradition of true believers, done all that massive damage with only the best intentions.
I'm always a little surprised when these folks don't take off.
Though part of it might be that no-extradition countries are generally not places you want to live [offshore-protection.com]. Not to mention in most situations most people simply go with the flow (into jail).
He might have also lacked the funds to go on the lam, I expect he must have kept some crypto around but maybe he stored it all in FTX?
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The Vatican has no extradition treaty, though that have strict requirements to be living there.
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The Vatican has no extradition treaty, though that have strict requirements to be living there.
Wouldn't help anyways, the Vatican non-extradition doesn't protect people who screw investors, only children.
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Possibly, but he only screwed his investors, maybe children is where he draws the line.
No more Interviews? (Score:2)
I guess that means no more interviews where he tries to put an innocence spin on the coverage to get ahead of the story and control the narrative.
Plus no more making âoepromisesâ he will pay everrrrrryone back if only they give him some more sweet, sweet monies!
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Just SBF? (Score:2)
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I think Sweet Caroline cut a deal. It was obvious that SBF was trying to throw her under the bus, but she got to the prosecutor first. Prisoner's Dilemma, first one to rat out the other wins unless both can keep their mouths shut.
She probably put a whole millisecond of thought into it before she realized that SBF was not going to keep his mouth shut. Then it was off to the airport for the trip home. She'll put every knife in the collection into his back. And she should, turning on the waterworks did no good
Hopefully no bail. He has the $$$ to run (Score:2)
SBF did not commit suicide.
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If he were going to run he'd have done so by now. Heck there was even rumours that he did which he then denied straight away denying it and tweeting exactly where he was. That's like anti-running.
Coffeezilla (Score:2)
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Journalists of all stripes know who signs their paychecks. You think all the propagandists who work for KCNA really believe what they're saying.
As they used to say in the old country, we know how to read Pravda...do *you* know how to read the New York Times?
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Well here's where there's a genuine dilemma.
On the one hand, separate news outlets like NYT and WSJ etc are usually independent companies and so one would assume they wouldn't all be fed propaganda from top down the way they do on the other side of the planet.
On the other hand, individual journalists sometimes move between these independent organizations and as such, just from a purely mercenary perspective need to stay on good terms with the rest of the industry. Some of these people are high profile indiv
Once again he made the same mistake (Score:2)
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John Corzine is the poster boy for swindling the "right" people. No jail time for him.
Bernie Madoff swindled the wrong people and got to die in prison. But he still lived longer than Epstein.
Not the smartest tool in the shed (Score:2)
A quick google search brings up Afghanistan, Algeria, Andorra, Angola, Armenia, Bahrain, Bangladesh, Belarus, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Brunei, Burkina Faso, Burma, Burundi, Cambodia, Cameroon, Cape Verde, the Central African Republic, Chad, Mainland China, Comoros, Congo (Kinshasa), Congo (Brazzaville), Djibouti, Equatorial Guinea, Eritrea, Ethiopia, Gabon, Guinea, Guinea-Bissau, Indonesia, Ivory Coast
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United States, Canada, Mexico, Panama Haiti, Jamaica, Peru, Republic Dominican, Cuba, Carribean Greenland, El Salvador too. ...
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What kind of idiot "escapes" to a Caribbean island that has an extradition treaty with the United States?
He didn't "escape". He has been living in the Bahamas since 2021, long before there was any indication that there was any problem at FTX what so ever, much less one that would put him on law enforcement's radar.
There was a rumour that he "escaped" to Argentina but he denied that straight away tweeting he's still at home in the Bahamas, and the Bahaman authorities said they were watching him as a person of interest (so presumably he may have had difficulty leaving anyway).
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You can live pretty damn well in Cambodia or Vietnam if you have a little money.
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Look out! (Score:3)
SBF didn't kill himself.
Good next FINRA Ari (Score:2)
Caroline sang? (Score:2)
From the NYT article referenced in the link:
"Several people familiar with the investigation said the speed with which the authorities moved in filing criminal and civil charges was an indication that prosecutors and regulators had received information from cooperating witnesses."
Remember that Caroline was seen in New York recently...
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I wonder if an Epstein will occur (Score:2)
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Yeah...guys like you is why I keep a gun in the house...
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Fomenting armed insurrection. However the ringleadet is a sad sack of aveannabe Nazi prince with s fancy name pouting about the fact that his family property was impounded 100 years ago after WWI when the royal pricks got shown the door
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Wow... you live in a far more interesting world than me.
1) no one was armed, not a single weapons charge for anyone. Parading and disturbing the peace and interfering with an election are the most common charges. You seem very dramatic.
2) trump was still speaking far away while others not at his speech had already started fucking shit up. This is _easily_ confirmed by checking his speech end time vs the capitol building event start time, both are well documented public information.
3) I have no idea what