TikTok Inching Toward US Security Deal To Avoid Sale (reuters.com) 31
U.S. lawmakers and TikTok are hammering out a plan, under which the short-form video app would make changes to its data security and governance without requiring its parent firm, China's ByteDance to sell it, the New York Times reported on Monday. Reuters reports: TikTok and the Biden administration have drafted a preliminary agreement to resolve national security concerns but are still deciding on a potential agreement, the Times reported, citing people familiar with the matter. A TikTok spokesperson declined to comment on the report but said the app was confident about being able to "fully satisfy all reasonable U.S. national security concerns." TikTok's parent company ByteDance was ordered to divest the company more than two years ago over fears that U.S. user data could be passed on to China's communist government.
tik, tik, tik, BOOM! (Score:1)
Why can't the authorities (government, homeland security, ICANN, whoever) just implement a complete clone of the service? With local servers, changes to the relevant DNS records, totally wipe Cheyna out of the picture. The lusers don't even have to notice.
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Option 1: You right wing conspiracy theorists just want to shut it down because they embarrassed Drumpf.
Option 2: You right wing conspiracy theorists just want to keep TikTok because it's outside the American governments control.
Option 3: You ARE racist for wanting TikTok or NOT wanting TikTok (depending on how the conversation is going).
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These guys are playing the game (Score:2)
since 1950. and Schumer isn't the orange one (Score:5, Informative)
The relevant law has been law since 1950.
Bytedance knew the law when they bought Music.ly in 2017, and filed paperwork saying they would comply with the law. They didn't comply.
Also, I think you're confusing two American politicians. Chuck Schumer, who initiated the action against Tik Tok, is the lead Democrat in the Senate. He was never president. He's not the orange guy.
Schumer demanded the CFIUS launch investigate and take enforcement action. CFIUS did so. CFIUS found they were in violation and recommended it be shut down if they didn't comply immediately.
By law, the president has 15 days to accept or reject the recommendation from CFIUS, to either sign it or not. The president was the orange guy. As required by law, he responded within the 15 day period. Normally presidents sign off on whatever CFIUS recommends - the president is busy and doesn't have time to investigate more thoroughly than CFIUS did. The president (orange guy) decided to cut Bytedance a bit of a break by giving them 45 days to get into compliance, otherwise the CFIUS order would go into effect.
So yeah mostly you're confusing Chuck Schumer (the guy who launched the action against Tik Tok, head of the Senate) with Donald Trump, a one term president.
Also confusing a 70 year old law that every other company complies with and you're somehow thinking its a new idea.
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Thanks for the education. It's hard to know what you don't know, and I thought this all started a few orange years ago. I now know better.
Thank you again,
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Re: since 1950. and Schumer isn't the orange one (Score:2)
What a wonderful, gracious reply.
Thank you.
Just sell to TrumpTok, aka Truth Social (Score:1)
Problem solved, plus Trump, the Second Coming of Christ, gets another platform to spread his message.
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Plus you won't have to worry about national security. Everything running through the system will be telepathically declassified and safely stored in Florida
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What the heck (Score:2)
Didn't Trump ban this already? Or was that just a threat?
China management is directing how companyy run. (Score:2)
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Won't work. (Score:4, Informative)
So long as this is a child company of a Chinese company then the CCP will be able to subvert every agreement. This isn't even a question, it's a reality.
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That is simply inaccurate. It is the same nonsense spouted about 5G hardware that ignores the technical realities.
It is quite technically feasible to audit the information flows in and out of TikTok to prove whether or not any of it leaves the US - just like it is technically feasible to audit and isolate 5G equipment from China.
When armchair architects sit back and proclaim "it is technically impossible for any US company to isolate and secure that 5G device", I wonder how it makes these folks feel about t
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you're basically claiming that the Chinese are way, way smarter than westerners
No, I'm claiming that they are just as smart and technically proficient as the US without any the moral or ethical restraints. The CCP regularly threatens it's own people living abroad in order to get them to commit industrial espionage. How hard do you think it would be to get one of them to give the CCP their login/SSH key? Seriously, that's all it would take for them to setup a cron job that finds and reports back all the information they are looking for.
Re: Won't work. (Score:2)
An SSH key won't allow them to mystically bypass traffic inspection. They would show up clear as day.
Yes a sophisticated adversary could implant a rogue agent to manually egress information via sneakernet but that's also ALWAYS the case, who owns the company is not relevant.
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An SSH key won't allow them to mystically bypass traffic inspection.
Were you planning on using deep packet inspection on every connection? What you are proposing is technically feasible but at extreme cost. If it's a cron job then it could report back in weekly or even monthly reports.
who owns the company is not relevant.
You are wrong about that. Obtaining access is the hardest part setting up an implant and being owned by a Chinese company guarantees them access.
Re: Won't work. (Score:2)
You don't need DPI to know where traffic is going.
And you also don't need to be sophisticated to implant a rogue agent... it's extremely trivial and any nation state can do it at almost any time. Owning a company is NOT relevant for this.
Done with this thread as you have a biased perspective and have bought into the idea that the Chinese are god-like adversaries.... they are not.
Easy solution for shitcock (Score:2)