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Homeland Security Records Show 'Shocking' Use of Phone Data, ACLU Says (politico.com) 47

An anonymous reader quotes a report from Politico: The Trump administration's immigration enforcers used mobile location data to track people's movements on a larger scale than previously known, according to documents that raise new questions about federal agencies' efforts to get around restrictions on warrantless searches. The data, harvested from apps on hundreds of millions of phones, allowed the Department of Homeland Security to obtain data on more than 336,000 location data points across North America, the documents show. Those data points may reference only a small portion of the information that CBP has obtained.

These data points came from all over the continent, including in major cities like Los Angeles, New York, Chicago, Denver, Toronto and Mexico City. This location data use has continued into the Biden administration, as Customs and Border Protection renewed a contract for $20,000 into September 2021, and Immigration and Customs Enforcement signed another contract in November 2021 that lasts until June 2023. The American Civil Liberties Union obtained the records from DHS through a lawsuit it filed in 2020. It provided the documents to POLITICO and separately released them to the public on Monday.

The documents highlight conversations and contracts between federal agencies and the surveillance companies Babel Street and Venntel. Venntel alone boasts that its database includes location information from more than 250 million devices. The documents also show agency staff having internal conversations about privacy concerns on using phone location data. In just three days in 2018, the documents show that the CBP collected data from more than 113,000 locations from phones in the Southwestern United States -- equivalent to more than 26 data points per minute -- without obtaining a warrant. The documents highlight the massive scale of location data that government agencies including CBP and ICE received, and how the agencies sought to take advantage of the mobile advertising industry's treasure trove of data.
"It was definitely a shocking amount," said Shreya Tewari, the Brennan fellow for the ACLU's Speech, Privacy and Technology Project. "It was a really detailed picture of how they can zero in on not only a specific geographic area, but also a time period, and how much they're collecting and how quickly."
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Homeland Security Records Show 'Shocking' Use of Phone Data, ACLU Says

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  • Solution? (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Archangel_Azazel ( 707030 ) on Monday July 18, 2022 @05:06PM (#62714064) Homepage Journal

    Start. Tracking. Them.

    No, not stalking them. We should just collectively start assembling data points on every member on Congress. After all, if it's freely available...
    (I am simply wondering how complete a picture one could paint using nothing but publicly available data...)

    • It's inspirational that Orwell didn't realize the cameras could point both ways.
      • by fgouget ( 925644 )

        It's inspirational that Orwell didn't realize the cameras could point both ways.

        It's frightening to see that, unlike Orwell, people don't realize the government has more cameras and resources and can use them to make sure people don't point their cameras at them.

    • by EvilSS ( 557649 )
      You can. Pay Venntel $20K and the data can be yours too. Got to love data brokers!
    • by mm4902 ( 3612009 )
      Well the best solution to changing someone's mind is to give them a taste of their own medicine. John Oliver did this perfectly; He got detailed enough to shame Congressional Republicans without directly identifying anyone individually. We've opened Pandora's box with "Big Data" and I think the only solution is to put regulations in place rather than try to shut it down, I just want to see an honest conversation about how you regulate data collection, how do you expand FINRA, HIPPA, and other narrow privacy
  • It's almost as if (Score:5, Insightful)

    by rsilvergun ( 571051 ) on Monday July 18, 2022 @05:35PM (#62714124)
    Setting up a de facto secret police with virtually unlimited powers in the wake of a modest terrorist attack that could have easily been prevented had law enforcement not been playing games letting fish swim was a bad idea.

    You know if you'd stop voting for people who support coal barrons and the fossil fuel industry and start voting for people who want real energy Independence in the form of wind and solar we could stop screwing with the Middle East and then they'd stop screwing with us. It's not that they hate our way of life or some bullshit it's that we keep sending in the CIA to overthrow their governments. And if that doesn't work we just send the whole blasted military.

    Of course that does mean you're going to have to vote for really boring candidates whose rallies or dull as fuck. Competent administrators don't put on a good show.
  • An administration is something that administers laws. Nothing was a lower priority to Donald Trump than that. There was only a Trump regime: Something that does whatever it pleases, ignoring all laws, ethics, and facts that it finds inconvenient.

    If you can't even get this distinction right after literally watching the psychopath try to ignore an election and violently overthrow the Constitution, what are you even doing pretending to criticize him?
  • by Anonymous Coward

    EFF won a case against spying on Americans, Proof it did not stop it from happening.

  • So if I buy an iPhone from Fruit, no extra apps from service provider or elsewhere, is that enough for tracking from the 3rd parties? I.e. they buy the data from Fruit or Tmobile too?

    • by cusco ( 717999 )

      Of course they do, in fact they may not even have to pay for it if a radio spectrum auction is pending and they want some brownie points.

    • by EvilSS ( 557649 )
      Apple and most likely Google don't sell that data to third parties. It's more valuable to them if they keep it exclusive to themselves. The phone companies promised to stop selling the data after it was exposed how easy the data was to buy and stalk people or buy and use by the police without a warrant. Take that promise for what you will. Companies like Venntel buy data from third party apps you install. So in theory, no, if you just buy the phone and install not apps, they could not use this method to tra
  • by biggaijin ( 126513 ) on Monday July 18, 2022 @06:47PM (#62714300)

    When a capability exists, it will be exercised, especially if it can be used surreptitiously with virtually no risk of discovery. As long as all of us are willing to carry around phones that function as government monitoring devices we will be vulnerable to this sort of abuse.

    • by gweihir ( 88907 )

      And that is the sad truth. The only way around this is making the tracking a criminal act with anybody (especially government employees) doing it going to prison. Of course, with the love for secret agencies that the US (and other states on the way into totalitarianism or already arrived there) have, there is zero chance for that. And as long as there is no personal risk, the usual assholes will keep trying to establish whatever capabilities they can.

    • by EvilSS ( 557649 )

      phones that function as government monitoring devices

      It's worse than that. The data being used in this case is compiled by a private data broker, from data sold to it by 3rd party apps you install on your phone. It's not just available to the government, it's available to anyone who can afford to pay for it. Not only that, it's being used to allow the government to bypass the need for a warrant since they can just buy it from a public source.

      The collection, much less selling, of location data by these apps should be made illegal. It won't be, but it shoul

  • Yet somehow crime has only gone up.

  • by nospam007 ( 722110 ) * on Tuesday July 19, 2022 @04:37AM (#62715194)

    People wearing a camera with a microphone and GPS wherever they go and it still 'shocks' people if that gets used to spy on them?

  • Illegal aliens are not supposed to be here. And I would be surprised if DHS did not tell these illegals that the phone is used to contact and track them.

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