US Seeks to Steal Putin's Top Scientists by Loosening Their Visa Requirements (msn.com) 170
"The Biden administration has a plan to rob Vladimir Putin of some of his best innovators," reports Bloomberg, "by waiving some visa requirements for highly educated Russians who want to come to the U.S., according to people familiar with the strategy."
One proposal, which the White House included in its latest supplemental request to Congress, is to drop the rule that Russian professionals applying for an employment-based visa must have a current employer. It would apply to Russian citizens who have earned master's or doctoral degrees in science, technology, engineering or mathematics in the U.S. or abroad, the proposal states.
A spokesman for the National Security Council confirmed that the effort is meant to weaken Putin's high-tech resources in the near term and undercut Russia's innovation base over the long run — as well as benefit the U.S. economy and national security. Specifically, the Biden administration wants to make it easier for top-tier Russians with experience with semiconductors, space technology, cybersecurity, advanced manufacturing, advanced computing, nuclear engineering, artificial intelligence, missile propulsion technologies and other specialized scientific areas to move to the U.S.
Biden administration officials have said they've seen significant numbers of high-skilled technology workers flee Russia because of limited financial opportunities from the sanctions the U.S. and allies have imposed after Putin's invasion on Ukraine.
The provision would expire in four years.
A spokesman for the National Security Council confirmed that the effort is meant to weaken Putin's high-tech resources in the near term and undercut Russia's innovation base over the long run — as well as benefit the U.S. economy and national security. Specifically, the Biden administration wants to make it easier for top-tier Russians with experience with semiconductors, space technology, cybersecurity, advanced manufacturing, advanced computing, nuclear engineering, artificial intelligence, missile propulsion technologies and other specialized scientific areas to move to the U.S.
Biden administration officials have said they've seen significant numbers of high-skilled technology workers flee Russia because of limited financial opportunities from the sanctions the U.S. and allies have imposed after Putin's invasion on Ukraine.
The provision would expire in four years.
Let see if Putins reciprocates (Score:2)
Re:Let see if Putins reciprocates (Score:5, Funny)
You know it is already easier for a random person to immigrate to Russia than to the US, right? Russia has one of the world's most liberal immigration policies.
Re:Let see if Putins reciprocates (Score:4, Insightful)
Ya, well that's easy for them seeing as no one wants to emigrate there.
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well that's easy for them seeing as no one wants to emigrate there.
That's not really true, they have a ton of immigrants from surrounding countries, notably Ukraine. Also from China, Kazakhstan, etc
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That's not really true, they have a ton of immigrants from surrounding countries, notably Ukraine.
Forced "immigration" doesn't count.
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Forced "immigration" doesn't count.
They are not forced. Life in Russia is way better than the rural poverty of Kyrgystan or Tajikistan.
Russia is also better than Ukraine in many ways, including double the median household income.
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Some of them are forced to leave now https://www.opendemocracy.net/... [opendemocracy.net]
Before the war they weren't forced to leave.
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WTF? Guess you think the war is just and proper - fuck the fuck off you fuck!
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That's not really true, they have a ton of immigrants from surrounding countries, notably Ukraine.
Should it really count as immigration when guys with guns show up and tell you that your home is now part of Russia?
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When the USSR broke up a significant number of people were left in other countries who were pro-Russia. I don't think it's a majority anywhere, especially Ukraine as some people have claimed, but it surely has to be a factor.
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But America is full of bigotry; racism, transphobia, homophobia... according to liberals it is the worst place to live.
Russia is a poster child for white nationalism, and they are way the fuck more *phobic over there as well. Most liberals have that figured out.
Re: Let see if Putins reciprocates (Score:2)
The murder rate in Russia is 3 times the USA. Look it up.
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A significant proportion of its population denies scientific theories based on their religious and political ideologies., Sounds like a place where morons wield enormous power.
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That's because in Russia they use baseball bats instead of guns
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Bullets are expensive. Knives and clubs can be re-used, and are less likely to hit someone on your side when attacking as a gang.
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Also in Russia you need a permit for a gun.
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It's more complicated than that. Shotguns are very popular in Russia since smoothbores are easier to get. As a consequence, you see a lot of ammunition manufacturers in Russia experimenting with different shell configurations to maximize the effectiveness of shotguns in different roles.
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Re: Let see if Putins reciprocates (Score:3)
Wow, what a huge lie! Oh and how come you did not mention that the murder rate in Russia is a lot worse than the US.
Reference: https://www.nationmaster.com/c... [nationmaster.com]
Re: Let see if Putins reciprocates (Score:2)
You just made up that, hoping people will buy it. Russia is a lot more violent than the USA. The murder rate is 3x the USA.
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Well then obviously more people must want to go there . . . except they don't.
Despite whatever statistics you might want to throw out, most people still prefer to live her in the US than anywhere else. Its a good balance. Yes there are places with stronger GDP per capita. Yes there are places with less crime. Yes there are places with universal healthcare. But while the US might not be the best at anything we're pretty high up on the list in just about everything.
And honestly - focusing too much energ
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He lied about the murder rate in Russia. The murder rate is 3 times higher in Russia than the US. I bet the rape statistic is false too, though I didn't bother to check it after seeing he lied about the first stat.
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You forgot to include the word "reported" in that claim. Or perhaps "reported and published". If you really think that Russia is such a safe place to live, I have a nice bridge to sell you.
Re:Let see if Putins reciprocates (Score:5, Interesting)
Russia's murder and violent crime rate is much higher than the US rate. Look it up. Also, btw, Republican run states are the worst for crime. Here are the 10 states with the highest murder rate (70% of which are Republican run):
Louisiana (12.4 per 100k) - Republican run
Missouri (9.8 per 100k) - Republican run
Nevada (9.1 per 100k)
Maryland (9 per 100k)
Arkansas (8.6 per 100k) - Republican run
Alaska (8.4 per 100k) - Republican run
Alabama (8.3 per 100k) - Republican run
Mississippi (8.2 per 100k) - Republican run
Illinois (7.8 per 100k)
South Carolina (7.8 per 100k) - Republican run
By the way, even Florida, which is run by Republican hero DeSantis has a higher murder rate than California.
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Ok.. explain how Georgia is not on that list. Louisiana should rank below Mississippi. Alaska shouldn't be anywhere on that list. Clearly it is a Republican policy thing. We know they treat black people like shit which ensures they end up in criminal activity. I mean, look at Russia .. living under oppression and forced wealth disparity increases the propensity for crime. Clearly even non-blacks in certain situations commit crime. Heck, the Nazis stuffed 6 million people in ovens without any empathy. How ar
Re:Let see if Putins reciprocates (Score:5, Informative)
Also, btw, Republican run states are the worst for crime.
He said Democrat cities not states:
Only if you combine the high rates in the Democrat-controlled cities with the low crime rates in the Republican-controlled areas.
And he is right. Most of the major population centres of the states you listed are run by Democrats. And those Democrat run cities have usually have a significantly higher crime rate than the Republican run state as a whole:
Louisiana (12.4 per 100k) - Republican run, New Orleans (39.50) - LaToya Cantrell (D)
Missouri (9.8 per 100k) - Republican run, Kansas City (30.93) - Quinton Lucas (D)
Nevada (9.1 per 100k), Las Vegas (12.60) - Carolyn Goodman (I)
Maryland (9 per 100k), Baltimore (55.77) - Brandon Scott (D)
Arkansas (8.6 per 100k) - Republican run, Little Rock(24.8) - Frank Scott Jr. (D)
Alaska (8.4 per 100k) - Republican run, Anchorage (9.12) - Dave Bronson (R)
Alabama (8.3 per 100k) - Republican run, Huntsville (3.3) - Tommy Battle (R)
Mississippi (8.2 per 100k) - Republican run, Jackson (71.6) - Chokwe Antar Lumumba (D)
Illinois (7.8 per 100k), Chicago (24.13) - Lori Lightfoot (D)
South Carolina (7.8 per 100k) - Republican run, Charleston (11.3) - John Tecklenburg (D)
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And those Democrat run cities have usually have a significantly higher crime rate than the Republican run state as a whole:
Republican-run cities have a significantly higher crime rate than the states they are in as well. This is not a surprise, nor a differentiator. A lot of crime occurs in cities because there are more potential victims. It's a target-rich environment.
Let's also not forget that these crime statistics are frequently misleading. Since you didn't provide any citations, we can't find out if you're making useful comparisons. For example, in this country wage theft exceeds all other theft combined. But is it account
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Republican-run cities have a significantly higher crime rate than the states they are in as well. This is not a surprise, nor a differentiator. A lot of crime occurs in cities because there are more potential victims. It's a target-rich environment.
That doesn't change the fact most of the crime happens in the cities, and cities are far far more likely to be run by democrats. Which was the original point.
Let's also not forget that these crime statistics are frequently misleading. Since you didn't provide any citations, we can't find out if you're making useful comparisons. For example, in this country wage theft exceeds all other theft combined. But is it accounted for in your statistics, or are you looking at a subset of crimes? We don't know, because you didn't provide cites.
The person I replied to specified murder rate, those stats are not misleading. And the person I was replying to didn't provide citations either, so it's interesting that you objected to my post instead of his. But in any case the murder rate stats were not cited by either of us because they are easy to find and those numbers are not in dispute. After a
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Uh, how many black people are in Russia?
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Ok.. explain how Georgia is not on that list. Louisiana should rank below Mississippi. Alaska shouldn't be anywhere on that list. Clearly it is a Republican policy thing. We know they treat black people like shit which ensures they end up in criminal activity. I mean, look at Russia .. living under oppression and forced wealth disparity increases the propensity for crime. Clearly even non-blacks in certain situations commit crime. Heck, the Nazis stuffed 6 million people in ovens without any empathy. How ar
Re:Let see if Putins reciprocates (Score:4, Insightful)
You know it is already easier for a random person to immigrate to Russia than to the US, right?
You’re that guy who informs everyone that falling trees do, in fact, make a sound when they fall in the woods, even if no one is around to hear them, aren’t you?
You’re missing the point if you think those policies are in any way relevant.
Re:Let see if Putins reciprocates (Score:4, Informative)
Sometimes it's so easy the immigrants themselves are not even consulted first.
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You know it is already easier for a random person to immigrate to Russia than to the US, right? Russia has one of the world's most liberal immigration policies.
So does North Korea. In fact it's so liberal that people even immigrate there without really wanting to. Many of them get government-provided jobs and accommodation in Kwalliso.
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You can check-out any time you like (mentally),
But you can never leave! (Russia).
I think many of you will know which song the lyrics are from.
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Seriously? When have I ever said capitalism is bad? In fact, when have I said American style anything is bad? I criticize nationalists though. I hate nationalism, I love capitalism. You realize the two things are different, right?
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You laugh, but Putin has had people assassinated before.
His way of "reciprocating" might be more direct.
Re: Let see if Putins reciprocates (Score:2)
They are so stupid that they fall out of windows all the time. They are mentally unstable and commit suicide, sometimes taking their family with them. They do not wash their hands when eating and get poisoned,
It is a sad bunch of people.
Re: Let see if Putins reciprocates (Score:2)
Western Employees (Score:5, Insightful)
I work for Dell, and we have a development team in St. Petersburg (it's been there probably twenty years). It may become increasingly difficult to keep them working there, and it would be great if we could relocate the whole group, families and all, to western Europe or the USA. I don't know how many of the people there would want to make such a move, but it should be an option.
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I work for Dell, and we have a development team in St. Petersburg (it's been there probably twenty years)
You probably have less than a week to move them out of there. You should be acting now because on 9 May (victory day) there's expected to be a form general mobilization which will close down routes of escape from Russia. From that point on we are likely in a new cold war with fully closed borders and people being shot trying to escape to the West. Beware that they likely won't fully understand the situation and in any case will be afraid to say much so you have to give them an opportunity to get out of coun
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That's certainly a possibility. I'm not in a position to influence any actions concerning that team, or I would have been working on getting them out for months.
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Yeah, well, please ensure that the person who is responsible has at least had the suggestion in writing so they can't later claim that it was a complete surprise. Plenty of other companies have done that already.
Great (Score:5, Insightful)
Now make it permanent and make it apply to Chinese and Iranian scientists too. There is no better way to strengthen our economy while weakening our potential enemies at the same time.
Due something about our educational system (Score:2)
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The goal is to prevent them from being able to build weapons.
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How do you make him go?
Re:Due something about our educational system (Score:4, Interesting)
Same for China. Whatever individual qualities people have, when you put together millions of people raised in Chinese culture, for whatever reason, they absolutely must have an emperor. We should welcome the Chinese people who DONT want to live under the thumb of the emperor of China.
To be clear: this is about CULTURE, not RACE. Americans have a type as well. It doesnt matter who the leader is, the Americans want to kick the bum out and install the next shiny new object. They want CHANGE, no matter what. They want it so bad they built it into their system. Look! A squirrel! ADHD is a fundamental feature of our government. And we complain about and criticize everything. Oh my god the complaining.
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Yet this strong man hasn't managed to curb the power of the people who took control over formerly state-run enterprises in the power vacuum ...
Yet more of the myth. Putin has never been trying to stop the oligarchs except in so far as they compete with him. He actually took money from a hospital project to pay for his palace. He's the centre of the corruption, though even without him there would be plenty left.
give free visa to Putin (Score:2)
So simple, just give a visa to Putin, he'll immigrate into the US. Problem solved. Genius.
It worked before (Score:2)
Personally, I wouldn't trust them... (Score:3)
as far as I can spit cherry stones.
Great idea to get them out of the employ of the Putin creature, just give them rent free coastal apartments somewhere quiet, pensions to live on the beach and a bullet if they go within 10 miles of any research/development establishment.
Why? I recently read a book about the life of one Ursula Kuczynski.
I hear Nome and Deadhorse are lovely this time of the year.
Yeah...about that (Score:2)
So far be it for me to bite the hand that fed me, with my family being a beneficiary of a similar policy at the end of the cold war, but....
Is it wise to lobotomize the enemy before you have defanged him?
30 years ago, the people who left the former Soviet Union were generally the ones with the most marketable skills *and* the most liberty-minded dispositions.
As we have seen, that left Russia's citizenry less economically dynamic (ie poorer) and less liberty-minded (ie belligerent).
Did that turn out well?
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If the answer to this problem was easy, politicians would have figured it out by now.
They did figure it out. They use their understanding to manipulate The People into voting against their own interests, to wit, electing them.
You can't make a stubborn people do what's good for themselves
Of course you can. People will believe any lie if you sell it to them, you can sell them the truth as easily as a lie using the same tactics. However, your efforts may be stymied by other people doing their best to make a stubborn people do what's good for someone else. Further, you can't use lies to sell the truth while someone else is standing there pointing out your
What happens after it expires? (Score:2)
This could work (Score:3)
Wrong focus (Score:2)
This isn't already a thing? (Score:2)
It seems like the most basic and completely acceptable form of warfare is luring valuable people away with a promise of better things.
It's not always amnesty for Nazis to build rockets.
You've got a lot of nerve (Score:2)
You've got a lot of nerve, to say you are my friend... you just want to be on the side that's winning.
--Bob Dylan.
US is not "stealing" anybody from Russia (Score:4, Insightful)
The implication is that there is a policy of pinching top talent from Russia, as a form of economic warfare. That is not proven. I think it quite understandable that talented and enterprising Russians would want to leave their home country, where the economy has been going down the tubes for years, and the political regime is increasingly oppressive. Before World War 2, with the rise of the Nazis, quite a number of people fled Germany for more a more friendly new home. I met a couple of people like that in the course of business. One chap ended up running five major electronic component factories in Wales. I have no idea if these people were Jews, but they sure were intelligent and enterprising.
The point is, there is plenty of proof that immigration comprising mostly talented and highly motivated people benefits the economy they move to, so it is something to be encouraged. The right wing moan that "they come over here, and take our jobs" is really an admission that the locals have got lazy, and expect to be given a nice life without working for it.
The idea, then, is to remove pointless bureaucratic barriers to immigration, while there is significant pressure on educated Russians wishing to leave their country. The fact that such an emigration might further harm the Russian economy is not really a consideration. I think the corrupt oligarch system has already done far more harm to the Russian economy than any US open-door immigration policy could do.
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I think we have to remember the type of immigrants that this topic is talking about, which is specifically highly qualified people, rather than ignorant drudges prepared to work for minimum wages. It may well be that such people are a bit more desperate for employment than the locals, and so are prepared to accept lower salaries. It should be noted, though, that locals have considerable advantages over immigrants, such as fluency in English, and familiarity with local customs. And if an employer is really b
Good idea (Score:2)
This is a good idea. Now let's make it permanent and permanently expand it to all countries. I'd be fine saying anyone with a college degree can move to the US any time they want.
Of course, I'm actually with Bryan Caplan and think we should just open the US borders and be done with it. Turns out that's better for virtually everyone except the autocrats like Putin.
Re:Why? (Score:5, Insightful)
Enough drama, I don't recall anybody saying Russian people were bad. It was always the leaders/government.
Re: Why? (Score:2, Insightful)
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Many examples of Russians being formally discriminated against in the US during the events of the last weeks, perhaps as a nod to the new cultural ethos that institutions should take pro-active political stances instead of remaining neutral. Dont believe it? Explain this
Russians are not being prevented from competing. Only those living in Russia.
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It's called sanctions. Don't reward Putin by ignoring his war and celebrating his athletes. This is not discrimination based on ethnicity.
Re: Why? (Score:2)
Re:Why? (Score:4, Interesting)
Enough drama, I don't recall anybody saying Russian people were bad. It was always the leaders/government.
I don't believe Russian people are bad, but it seems clear that they have some very bad beliefs and ideas, embedded very deeply in their culture. In particular, they fundamentally believe that might makes right. Not in a moral sense, but in a cynical realpolitik way that makes moral opinions irrelevant.
For a people to have a successful government, by which I mean one that mostly serves the people, has relatively low levels of corruption, and generally does more good than harm for its citizenry, a certain amount of idealism and high expectations seem to be required. If everyone expects nothing but abuse and corruption, they'll get abuse and corruption. If they expect that government will be able to suppress dissent, they'll shut their mouths and the government to suppress dissent.
Until the Russian people demand and expect something better, they're going to continue being a net harm to the world. Yes, it's the government, not the people... but it's the government the people allow because they don't believe that better is possible.
Re:Many, many people act like all Russians are bad (Score:5, Informative)
Oh really, then why do all of the sanction directly hurt the Russian people far more than the government?
War always hurts the people. It is unfortunate they are mostly out of range of Ukrainian counter attacks. If they could rain munitions down on Russia instead the economic measures might not be necessary.
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We won't even actually sanction the only thing that would actually diminish Russia the nation, gas and oil sales, with half of the West still buying from Russia.
Fortunately Russia recently helped us with that, by cutting off gas exports to Poland.
Re: Not going to last though. (Score:2)
Didnt I just read that the Poles, with their deep distrust of Russia, had already largely diversified off Russian gas? I think the contention was that poland was going to be Russian gas free this fall anyway. The impression I got was the Germans and Italians are really screwed, but this cutting off gas to poland was really a low stakes move to indicate the Russians are willing to call germanys bluff in not paying in roubles
Re:Many, many people act like all Russians are bad (Score:4, Insightful)
They have not stopped the Russian government, or even slowed them down.
Nobody said they would work overnight, we are in this for the long haul. Every destroyed tank or plane that Russia cannot easily replace is a small contribution to a safer world in the long term. Every degradation of their domestic infrastructure makes them weaker and less of a threat to others going forward. The country needs to be neutered, like a dog. That is what the sanctions are for. If it takes years, and it may, so be it.
We won't even actually sanction the only thing that would actually diminish Russia the nation, gas and oil sales, with half of the West still buying from Russia.
Some gullible people in the West thought Putin was a rational person they could allow to be part of the civilized world's economy. They were wrong, now it is bluntly obvious, and they will have to rectify their mistake under duress. Russia's days as an energy supplier to the West are coming to an end, and they won't be coming back. Putin's legacy from this war is going to be permanent, and very, very bad for Russia, at least so long as he or someone like him is in power.
Indeed as we can see even short term, the sanctions have screwed over not just the little guy on the streets of Russia, but also the little guy all over the west.
And everyone I talk to in the west is happy to assume some additional hardship if it gives Putin the finger. Few begrudge the billions of taxpayer dollars going to the Ukrainian military and as aid for the refugees. Many even donate money of their own on top of that. Thankfully those like you were not common during real global wars of the past when common people endured great hardship and made extraordinary sacrifices in the name of defending freedom. .
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When are they supposed to work? Shouldn't there be an indicator they are working
There are many indicators they are working. They will get worse, not better with time.
Like - is Russia starting to pull troops from Ukraine? Hasn't happen wins sanctions started.
So long as Russian troops are in Ukraine, Russia is persona non grata in the free world economy. It does not matter if that has a cost to the west, it is a matter of principle, and the longer we do without them, the better the alternatives that will replace them. If this indeed goes on for years, the negative effect on Western economies will get smaller and smaller as we find alternatives for everything from Russia. Con
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There are many indicators they are working. They will get worse, not better with time.
Apparently there are not so many you can name even one... I listed several concrete examples, but the exchange rate of the Rouble says it all and throws shade on any possible counter argument.
Good day sir, I shall leave you to your fantasies.
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I listed several concrete examples, but the exchange rate of the Ruble says it all and throws shade on any possible counter argument.
Does the exchange rate for the ruble say it all? How about the Central Bank of Russia increasing interest rates to 20%. The government requirement that all Russian businesses earning money overseas swap 80% for rubles? Russian bankers are also banned from selling securities owned by foreigners. Oh, and Russian citizens are banned from sending money abroad. I'm sure we all also know about Russia trying to force foreign countries to pay for fossil fuels in rubles. Also, while new and more severe sanctions kee
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Don't you agree we should look for some measurable metric for success, rather that faith based sanctions alone?
Massive double digit contraction of the Russian economy is good enough for me.
Like - is Russia starting to pull troops from Ukraine? Hasn't happen wins sanctions started.
Sanctions are sticks not panaceas.
Yes they are but what happens when they realize the only people getting screwed are themselves, not Putin?
Dead oligarchs and hundreds of billions of dollars of frozen assets is a step in the right direction.
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They have not stopped the Russian government, or even slowed them down.
Are you only reading Fox News and are you completely unaware of what's going on in Russia right now economically?
You are the most dense person here on Slashdot.
Re:Many, many people act like all Russians are bad (Score:5, Insightful)
Oh really, then why do all of the sanction directly hurt the Russian people far more than the government?
Because they vote for Putin. You could argue that there's no real opposition to Putin, but the war has actually significantly boosted Putin's popularity. Most Russians are happy with their leader and subsequently share the responsibility for the war.
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but the war has actually significantly boosted Putin's popularity. Most Russians are happy with their leader
Note that while it is clear support for Putin has been boosted by the war, it is not clear that most Russians are happy with their leader. Mainly because people are less willing to be honest when talking to pollsters.
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And yet when Ukrainians phone up their relatives in Russia, they are argued with about why they stay in the Russia hating Ukraine with all the nazis blowing up the apartments. They cannot make their Russian relatives believe anything other than what Putin's propaganda states.
Re:Many, many people act like all Russians are bad (Score:4, Insightful)
Yeah. Have you ever tried to argue with someone who watches Fox News? It's the same thing.
Re:Many, many people act like all Russians are bad (Score:5, Informative)
And yet when Ukrainians phone up their relatives in Russia, they are argued with about why they stay in the Russia hating Ukraine with all the nazis blowing up the apartments. They cannot make their Russian relatives believe anything other than what Putin's propaganda states.
Reminds me of Iraq /w 3/4's of the country believing Saddam was in on 9/11 prior to US invasion. See also "stop the steal". While nothing quite compares to the 1934 referendum it's all part of the same coin.
Humans are inherently malleable suckers. You can make them believe anything if you take up enough of their time. The only exception of course is the person reading this. You are special and certainly not a malleable sucker.
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As wars do. Look at how the Afghanistan and Iraq debacles boosted President Bush's popularity, in the short term.
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Most Russians support that war. And at what point do we call the enablers of Putin to be just as guilty as he. That point arrived several weeks ago.
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Most Russians support that war.
Any evidence?
There have been a number of polls run in various ways, some of which should compensate for people lying. It's very difficult to be sure though because all Russians should be afraid to answer truthfully if they oppose the war. Even if the poll taker is honest, someone can be listening on the line.
As long as Russia isn't a proper democracy with proper freedom of expression you can't be sure.
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Oh really, then why do all of the sanction directly hurt the Russian people far more than the government?
Because the government was setup to funnel money away from the people.
Go read the actual sanctions. No where at all does it say you can't work with Russian people.
Frankly the fact that you label them as a human shield in this fight is disgusting.
Re: Many, many people act like all Russians are ba (Score:2)
Oh really, then why do all of the sanction directly hurt the Russian people far more than the government?
1. Russian people are responsible for the government they have : either they elect pieces of it, allow it to spread propaganda, limit media freedom; or at the very least by not starting a revolution against their government.
2. I don't see you suggest any other way, of punishing just the government and sparing the people.
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Well my Orchestra just performed Scheherazade, went really well thank-you.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... [wikipedia.org]
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So confusing. We have always been at war with Eastasia.
No. It was & always has been East Anglia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... [wikipedia.org]
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Chelsea Manning was able to download 750,000 intel documents(pages?) in less than a year. Our security systems were so poor that accessing multiple pages per minute every single work day was not flagged
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"For another, the sanctions have made gas and oil even more expensive in the West"
Wrong for the USA, which only gets about 1% of its actual sources from Russia.
The reason for gas price raises is greedy oil companies and the Gov't allowing them to price gouge while charging others for selling water for too much money.
Wake the fuck up.
Re:Where is the ruin? (Score:4, Informative)
200,000 job losses in Moscow alone. $500billion lost immediately from the national treasury. 17% inflation rate. The national tank factory had to shut down production because it can't get parts. https://journalrecord.com/2022... [journalrecord.com]
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17% inflation rate.
Just wait till the shortages of almost everything really start to kick in.
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Yeah. I saw one guy who said he tried to buy a refrigerator, but all they had available was old refurbished soviet stuff. He said, you can go without buying a new refrigerator for a while, but eventually it's going to be a problem. And that is true for a lot of things.
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I just have been studying the world of commodities for several years now and like I said, there are so many clear points you can look up today about how Russia is actually benefiting from the sanctions way more than they are being hurt
As a "student of commodities" you should know a few months is nothing. The entire civilized world is in the process of finding alternatives to anything and everything that Russia produces. It will take time, but their markets which have taken decades to build are now going to be shrinking on a permanent, ongoing basis.
Today is as good as it gets for them. The future is far worse.
On the surface, moreover, the Russian economy has appeared to stabilize since the initial salvo of sanctions, buoyed by e
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"Why on earth would an actual scientist in a rational country move to the west."
Because the rest of their country is absolute ass in comparison?
Are you that fucking obtuse as to the actual political situation in Russia?
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Liberals believe biology dictates that too. Just not the biology you are able to comprehend. I've explained it like 100 times how, biologically, gender is a spectrum. The genes that control the features of gender have variations. Even gender's biggest master switch, the SRY gene (normally, but not always, found on the Y-chromosome) .. has variants that affect its binding energy -- which in turn means a lot of gender identity genes are not always expressed in the "average" way. YOU don't understand biology -
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Russia is first world? What makes them first world? They have high crime and a bad economy. I mean, if Russia is first world .. so is China.