China Created AI 'Prosecutor' That Can Charge People With Crimes (futurism.com) 79
In a scenario that's part "Robocop" and part "Minority Report," researchers in China have created an AI that can reportedly identify crimes and file charges against criminals. Futurism reports: The AI was developed and tested by the Shanghai Pudong People's Procratorate, the country's largest district public prosecution office, South China Morning Post reports. It can file a charge with more than 97 percent accuracy based on a description of a suspected criminal case. "The system can replace prosecutors in the decision-making process to a certain extent," the researchers said in a paper published in Management Review seen by SCMP.
The team built the machine off of an existing AI tool ominously called System 206. Prosecutors in China were already using the system to help assess evidence and determine whether or not a suspected criminal was dangerous to the public at large. However, it was fairly limited as it could not "participate in the decision-making process of filing charges and [suggesting] sentences," the team said in the paper. That would require the AI to be able to identify and remove irrelevant information in a case, and process human language in its neural network. The new AI developed in Shanghai is able to assess case files in such a manner. In fact, the machine can identify and charge criminals with the district's eight most common crimes: credit card fraud, gambling, reckless driving, intentional assault, obstructing an officer, theft, fraud, and even political dissent.
The team built the machine off of an existing AI tool ominously called System 206. Prosecutors in China were already using the system to help assess evidence and determine whether or not a suspected criminal was dangerous to the public at large. However, it was fairly limited as it could not "participate in the decision-making process of filing charges and [suggesting] sentences," the team said in the paper. That would require the AI to be able to identify and remove irrelevant information in a case, and process human language in its neural network. The new AI developed in Shanghai is able to assess case files in such a manner. In fact, the machine can identify and charge criminals with the district's eight most common crimes: credit card fraud, gambling, reckless driving, intentional assault, obstructing an officer, theft, fraud, and even political dissent.
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black guy = guilty!
Antifa are like 99% liberal white people. Check out any video.
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"black guy = guilty!"
They have a different system in China and Japan.
If you are brought before a judge, you are automatically guilty, their system wouldn't accuse innocent people would they, they just have to find the fitting crime and its punishment.
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Yow. Didn't see that in our news about marches last year in Canada. Could you provide links to stories about Antifa Rioters, for whom there was clear evidence of crime, but the charges were dismissed despite the evidence?
I did some googling, but all I could find were about a third of the cases in Portland dismissed, after months, because they concluded they couldn't get a conviction. And a NY Times article that said most cases across the country that were dismissed, were dismissed because they were 'exe
still need an grand jury (Score:2)
still need an grand jury
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For what? You don't need a grand jury for anything but to issue subpoenas.
They're a convenience for prosecutors, so they can do various things with less evidence, or without creating an accessible paper trail.
Re: still need an grand jury (Score:2)
Re:This would save a lot of time in the U.S. (Score:4, Informative)
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What I'm talking about - our topic - is a reply to an original post, "This would save a lot of time in the U.S." about how this would be useful in the US because Antifa Rioters were being routinely let go, charges dismissed, so that job could be done by AI and save US courts a lot of time.
I replied that we didn't see that happen in Canada, could he supply links to the American story, I tried to google, etc. Still there.
Oddly, the original post seems to have disappeared, making it look like the reply before
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Oddly, the original post seems to have disappeared,,
It's still there, it just got modded down to -1. Might not be visible on mobile.
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You mean the video in which Trudeau specifically criticized the "notwithstanding clause" [apnews.com] that allows the provincial governments to override the Charter?
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I'm no fan of Trudeau. I'm merely pointing out that you're spreading outright misinformation. "He's a bad guy anyway" is not a valid excuse for that. If you want to criticize him, cite data that actually supports that argument, don't fudge it.
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Allow me to demonstrate, then.
Two days ago, you wrote - and I quote directly from your comment: "regardless of the fact that we are attacking your fundamental rights or limiting your fundamental rights, and the charter says that is wrong, we're still going to go ahead and do it".
Sounds like you hate freedom. Should you hang?
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Yow. Didn't see that in our news about marches last year in Canada.
Canadian Antifa are less hands-on as you'd expect from Candadians being generally less violent, but they still act like assholes [nypost.com] and metaphorically punch down all the same.
A very small shell script (Score:4)
I could write an AI to charge the top levels of the PRC with crimes, by just scraping the morning news looking for a few keywords relating to summary executions, genocide, corrupt influence-selling. And it would be the proverbial very small shell script.
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Pooh Bear would totally go Judge Dread on your ass, though.
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For those science fiction buffs out there: Do you remember the short story that follows this very same line?
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Shuold I be worried if I am late returning a library book?
You should be very worried. Either the book was Selected Poems by Emperor Pooh, and you'll be scrutinized for depriving your entire community of His wisdom, or else it was some other book, which you were apparently so attached to that you didn't want to return it, and you might be in need of re-education.
SCMP is CCP state media now. (Score:5, Informative)
especially now that Alibaba is being pressured to sell to Chinese billionaires, you know, the ones that are still in favor. [wikipedia.org]
Also the Chinese court conviction rate for everything is just under 100%. [chinajusticeobserver.com]
In China, the conviction rate was 99.965% in 2019 and 99.969% in 2018.
The number of indicted criminal suspects and acquitted defendants in China in the last two years and the conviction rates we calculate are as follows:
In 2019, 1,818,808 people are indicted by the Peopleâ(TM)s Procuratorate of China, among which 637 defendants are acquitted in the public prosecution, with a conviction rate of 99.965%.
In 2018, 1,692,846 people are indicted by the Peopleâ(TM)s Procuratorate of China, among which 517 defendants are acquitted in the public prosecution, with a conviction rate of 99.969%.
Who the fuck needs "AI" for that? Can we see BeauHD's tax returns? A fuck of a lot of PRO-CCP shit getting posted by them all of a sudden.
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That doesn't mean what you think it means.
In the UK the conviction rate could be similar (it's not, the 99% is BS) because here the CPS (crown prosecution service) decide whether or not something goes to court. Where-in the difference lies is that in Japan everything goes to court and yet they still get a 99% rate but in the UK the CPS don't just take the police's word for it and they will only prosecute crimes when they think they have a very high chance of winning.
The 99% conviction rate only looks at pro
Re:SCMP is CCP state media now. (Score:5, Insightful)
All Chinese media is CCP state media.
China made it illegal for sites not funded by the CCP to report on Chinese news within China.
I.e., if you're not being paid by the state, you can't report on news in China.
So every news article from China is CCP propaganda. There are third party news organizations still gathering news, but they have to do their reports outside of China, and those people are basically being hunted down and expelled because they won't speak the party line.
In other words, don't trust any positive Chinese news you read, it's probably propaganda.
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Even the negative news is propaganda. If too many people are talking about it, they want people to hear the "truth" which will be less bad than the rumor/truth.
If 1000 people die, check the news, oh, terrible news, big disaster, everybody so sad, 10 people died!
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I agree, but the SCMP used to be HK based and was, at least considered to be, independent. But, that was pre-invasion by the PLA.
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Going to go out on a limb here... (Score:5, Informative)
But I imagine Party Members won't have to deal with this wonderful AI judge. Fuck China.
Re:Going to go out on a limb here... (Score:4, Funny)
It was inevitable (Score:5, Insightful)
The more they can automate the process of exerting power, the fewer people the one(s) at the top have to share it with. The ultimate goal is for the police, the courts and the prisons at all to be 100% automated with robots so that the dictator is unaccountable to anyone, ever. No more palace coups, ever again. Only slaves.
And don't think that people in charge in other countries aren't taking notes.
IBM may help them just like how they killed jews (Score:4, Informative)
IBM may help them just like how they helped the Nazis kill jews
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Or intel might help them given that they are a 'cherished' partner for whom they have 'deep respect'. Deep respect for people committing genocide, not a good look to me.
Re:It was inevitable (Score:4, Interesting)
The more they can automate the process of exerting power, the fewer people the one(s) at the top have to share it with. The ultimate goal is for the police, the courts and the prisons at all to be 100% automated with robots so that the dictator is unaccountable to anyone, ever. No more palace coups, ever again. Only slaves.
And don't think that people in charge in other countries aren't taking notes.
I hope they take good notes, because the process does not end with an unaccountable human dictator. It ends with an unaccountable automated dictator.
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At which point, Arnold Schwarzenegger could actually be President! [imdb.com]
AI Judge: "What are the charges, officer?" (Score:1)
Officer: "The suspect is said to have raped Indiana Jones."
Steven Spielberg: "This is just a figure of speech and I reject it thoroughly!"
AI Judge: "20 years of soap-picking for you!"
Officer: "Did I mention the AI stands for Analogy-Induced?"
If (!=CCP member) { Citizen=guilty;} (Score:2)
I guess you need to add some complex Xitler relationship logic as well - maybe that is what requires the AI algo.
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Why bother? (Score:3)
The CCP doesn't need an excuse to do anything to anyone in the country. Why bother with the sham "charging with a crime/trial/incarceration" process at all?
Ask Peng Shuai, Jack Ma, Zhao Wei, Tiananmen (Score:3)
The cultural revolution, the great leap forward, and all the various people that have been disappeared and rehabilitated in China would like to speak to you.
Sorry, the US has never been as bad as China, much as you want to believe it (unless you're african-american).
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The one lifting the US on the same level as China is you. I merely pointed out that similar principles apply in the US, I never quantified relative levels. Of course, the US is not on the level of China, but that may be a "not yet" if the US population continues to ignore what is going on.
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Why does the US keep up the pretense that it actually has courts dealing with criminals, when most of the time the process is just scaring the defendant into accepting a plea-bargain (or rather a plea-rip-off)? Exactly. It allows pretending that there is a functioning justice system when nothing like that is the case.
You were modded down - obviously, somebody here is either in denial or very uncomfortable acknowledging an obvious truth. Or a shill... no, that can't be the case - the US authorities would never resort to tactics like manipulating social media in order to shape public perception.
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You were modded down - obviously, somebody here is either in denial or very uncomfortable acknowledging an obvious truth. Or a shill... no, that can't be the case - the US authorities would never resort to tactics like manipulating social media in order to shape public perception.
Probably just some butthurt "patriots" that are blind to what is going on.
Here's a test case for you (Score:5, Interesting)
To test the system out, feed it the circumstances of the disappearance of Peng Shuai, the disappeared women's tennis star.
Will it indict the former CCP high-ranking official? Or not.
(think think think) .. didn't think so.
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Robo this! (Score:1)
Robocop,
Robojudge,
Robojail,
What's missing? ("Profit" is there already.)
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They're called Daleks.
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the point is political dissent. the CPP will living forever !
One thing I love about Slashdot is the inclusion of UID numbers with user posts. The combination of a really high UID and a post that's obviously trolling or shilling strongly suggests an organized propaganda effort.
Are you just a troll, or are you a clever shill? That "will living forever" is classic Chinglish - are you really Chinese, or just pretending? Putting "CPP" instead of "CCP" might have been clever; on the other hand, perhaps it was just a typo.
Ahh... I just looked at your posting history - that'
The moon is indeed a harsh mistress... (Score:1)
Maybe Mike will eventually turn against his creators?!
Excellent (Score:2)
Excellent. Mankind evolves to the point where it reinvents Satan (seriously, a tireless prosecutor whose only purpose is to charge people with crimes...what idiot thought this one up?). 'Little horn' better watch out, he has serious competition.
Name the AI 'Berea' (Score:2)
“Show me the man and I'll show you the crime”
Here's the AI code (Score:2)
post.author.setGuilty(true);
}
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if (post.Contains("Winnie") || post.Contains("Pooh")) {
post.author.sentence.years += 10;
}
Has no one in China seen minority report? (Score:2)
Because if they haven't they should.
Prison state (Score:3)
Testing the system is super easy! (Score:2)
Run the profiles of the past few decades worth of U.S. Presidents and members of Congress through the system. And then pick a bunch of random shmucks from society that haven't committed any serious crimes. There's your training data.
Yes, but can it follow through? (Score:1)
Robots prosecuting robots (Score:2)
I know the algorithm of this "AI" (Score:2)
FOR ALL citizen "c":
if is_suspicious(c) then
arrest(c);
charge(c);
convict(c);
punish(c);
endif
endfor