'We Spoke To a Guy Who Got His Dick Locked In a Cage By a Hacker' (vice.com) 242
An anonymous reader quotes a report from Motherboard: Sam Summers was sitting at home with his penis wrapped in an internet-connected chastity cage when he got a weird message on the app that connects to the device. Someone told him they had taken control and they wanted around $1,000 in Bitcoin to give control back to Summers. "Initially, I thought it was my partner doing that," Summers told Motherboard in a phone call. "It sounds silly, but I got a bit excited by it." But when Summers called his partner, she told him it wasn't her, even after he told her their safe word. That's when he realized he had gotten hacked. His penis was locked in the cage, and he had no way out.
Summers is one of several people who purchased a chastity cage device called Cellmate and produced by Qiui, a China-based manufacturer. Some of the device's owners got their accounts -- and thus their devices as well -- hacked at the end of last year, after security researchers warned that the manufacturer left an exposed and vulnerable API, which could allow hackers to take control of the devices.
Scared and a bit desperate, Summers realized he had some Bitcoin stashed in an old account. So he sent the hacker what they wanted, hoping that would be it. But when the hacker got the money, they asked for more, according to Summers. "That's when I felt fucking stupid and angry," Summers said. At that point, Summers and his partner started brainstorming ways to get his penis out of the cage. At home, they only had a hammer, so they went out and bought a pair of bolt cutters. His partner tried first, but she couldn't break through. So Summers had to do it himself. The way he was holding his penis put it "in a dangerous spot," he said, so it was "very scary." Nonetheless, he was able to break the cage, but the cutters still cut through him, he said. "I don't have a scar or anything but I was bleeding and it fucking hurt," Summers said.
Summers is one of several people who purchased a chastity cage device called Cellmate and produced by Qiui, a China-based manufacturer. Some of the device's owners got their accounts -- and thus their devices as well -- hacked at the end of last year, after security researchers warned that the manufacturer left an exposed and vulnerable API, which could allow hackers to take control of the devices.
Scared and a bit desperate, Summers realized he had some Bitcoin stashed in an old account. So he sent the hacker what they wanted, hoping that would be it. But when the hacker got the money, they asked for more, according to Summers. "That's when I felt fucking stupid and angry," Summers said. At that point, Summers and his partner started brainstorming ways to get his penis out of the cage. At home, they only had a hammer, so they went out and bought a pair of bolt cutters. His partner tried first, but she couldn't break through. So Summers had to do it himself. The way he was holding his penis put it "in a dangerous spot," he said, so it was "very scary." Nonetheless, he was able to break the cage, but the cutters still cut through him, he said. "I don't have a scar or anything but I was bleeding and it fucking hurt," Summers said.
The Internet of Things.... (Score:5, Funny)
Things are getting stranger all the time.
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Sam Summers was sitting at home with his penis wrapped in an internet-connected chastity cage when he got a weird message on the app that connects to the device.
There is so much wrong in that one sentence . . . . .
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tears of laughter are hitting my keyboard
Re:The Internet of Things.... (Score:5, Insightful)
We need an occasional reminder that stupidity has no upper bound.
If his dick was permanently disabled, then, technically, he could qualify for a Darwin Award.
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Some Slashdotters complain about some of the stories posted here by
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In this case it's the 'IoJ': 'Internet of (men's) Junk'.
To be certain, there are internet based chastity belts for women as well, with the same issues of being hacked.
Some Slashdotters complain about some of the stories posted here by ./ staff as not relevant to a tech site, and not 'stuff that matters'. Usually I disagree with them. For this I agree 100%; this is not something that should be posted here, and it should not 'matter' to any Slashdotter -- or at least I hope it doesn't matter -- or should I say 'concern them'?
I'm a little conflicted about that though. I would hope that Slashdotters aren't so stupid as to buy into an internet controlled device like a chastity belt. But there are a lot of people who aren't so bright or savvy on what could happen with a locking device that can be hacked. And I suppose that a man or woman locked into their chastity belt might find it "stuff that matters"
Finally, at leas
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BTW this was supposed to be funny.
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Except this story has been on Slashdot three times now at least. Strange, or just Slashdot as usual?
Re:The Internet of Things.... (Score:5, Funny)
Given that so many places describe themselves as "the buckle of the bible belt", I'm envisioning the "bible belt" as something quite fetishy and harness like.
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The bible belt is a patriarchy and not a matriarchy. Why would you remote control the stupid things in the first place, male version, female version. Although with both, reproduction could definitely still occur.
Just a reminder to everyone, if it does not need to be connected to the internet THEN DO NOT FUCKING CONNECT IT TO THE INTERNET.
Re:The Internet of Things.... (Score:5, Informative)
I don't know what kind of anti-Christian comic book you got that from, but Jesus most often addresses men on this point.
For example Matthew 5:27-28
In the King James Version of the Bible the text reads:
27 Ye have heard that it was said by them of
old time, Thou shalt not commit adultery:
28 But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh
on a woman to lust after her hath committed
adultery with her already in his heart.
The World English Bible translates the passage as:
27 "You have heard that it was said,
'You shall not commit adultery;'
28 but I tell you that everyone who gazes at a
woman to lust after her has committed
adultery with her already in his heart.
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'Needing' is just as guilty as 'doing': Does that mean no-one is able to throw the first stone because we're all sinners? Or perhaps, true Christians don't need fucking (other women), once married.
Matthew 5:29
And if thy right eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell.
He further argues that offense (presumably sin) should be removed from the body at any cost. How that
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> Does that mean no-one is able to throw the first stone because we're all sinners?
Yes
> Or perhaps, true Christians don't need fucking (other women), once married.
Not only true Christians
> He further argues that offense (presumably sin) should be removed from the body at any cost.
So? Would any sensible man or woman want to keep sin present in their life? I mean -- once you discount the short-term pleasure -- is theft, envy, adultery, lies, profanity, ingratitude or murder really worth it? Is that
Yes, that's the point (Score:2)
> Does that mean no-one is able to throw the first stone because we're all sinners?
Yes, that's the point he was making. See also "And why worry about a speck in your friendâ(TM)s eye when you have a log in your own?"
The fact that meant nobody is qualified to be throwing stones at her immediately follows Jesus speaking those words:
7 When they kept on questioning him, he straightened up and said to them, "Let anyone among you who is without sin be the first to throw a stone at her." 8 And once again
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Sorry, I hit Submit without addressing the other items you mentioned.
> How that relates to a sin of needing casual sex, is not explained.
A few years ago I was quite surprised to learn that I actually don't need to fuck random women. I need food, I need water; I did just fine dating my wife and not having sex with her until after we were married. Before I started dating her, casual sex with various women was fun and all, much like I understand heroin feels really good. We don't actually NEED to go arou
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Or why they don't kill their wives when the put the sheets out the morning after they marry (Conservative Christians have a very high divorce rate)
One of my favorites is this one: Deuteronomy 22: 13 - 20 13 “If any man takes a wife and goes in to her and then hates her 14 and accuses her of misconduct and brings a bad name upon her, saying, ‘I took this woman, and
Re:The Internet of Things.... (Score:5, Insightful)
I don't know what kind of anti-Christian comic book you got that from, but Jesus most often addresses men on this point.
What Jesus said and what how people 'interpret' his words to fit their personal agenda are two very, very, very different things.
Re: The Internet of Things.... (Score:3)
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It's kinda strange that all these holy books are so vague and open to interpretation. The Koran is the worst because it's supposed to be the literal word of god, and you would think he could do a better job.
See, that is your 'interpretation' based on your islamophobic personal agenda. The bible, according to many christians, is also supposed to be the literal word of god and its simplistic origin stories, by virtue of being the incontestable word of god, supposedly render null and void established, well proven and observable science like the laws of physics and evolution. From a scholastic, a historian's, point of view the situation is this:
The Koran was written after the death of Mohammed. Is it therefore a
Re: The Internet of Things.... (Score:2)
Ah. The introduction of thought crime as a means of control. Doesn't matter just what you do, also what you think. Therefore you're alway guilty of sin and therefore always subservient to the religious leadership. Frankly, this introduction of the concept of "thought crime" is in my opinion, one of the most evil things ever invented by mankind.
Lol (Score:2)
That's funny.
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That's probably true in your social circle.
In my church, a man and a woman who both were up front on platform had an inappropriate relationship. The man apologized to the whole church and left. We don't know who the woman was. The attention was on the man.
By the way, I wish I hadn't left. When I sent him a kind note on Facebook, he replied something along the lines of "I'm sorry for disappointing and perhaps disillusioning everyone". I told him we never had thought he was perfect. We know of one perfect p
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The bible-belt also demands men don't masturbate: They don't make the same demand of "loose women".
The usual excuse for this rule is the story of Onan, which is so vague he could be doing almost anything, premature ejaculation or 'coitus interruptus' are possibilities. But the problem is this one event becomes a universal rule for most Christian sects. God told Abraham to kill his first-born but the church doesn't demand everybody copy him, to prove their faith or obedience to god.
In both cases, the
You got the story wrong (Score:2)
> The story of Onan is just a story which mentions he didnt screw his dead brothers wife as was the law.
Yes, there actually was a law for this, but the punishment for refusing such a marriage was a particular form of public humiliation, not death. You can find that specific law in Deuteronomy 25:7-10 [biblehub.com] if you're curious.
The problem was that Onan absolutely did marry and then screw his dead brother's wife, both metaphorically and literally. When he slept with her, he pulled it out to avoid having kids. T
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I thought the bible belt was all about how those "loose women" should not "open their legs". They usually don't say anything about those men who want to have sex with the women. For bible belters it is almost always the woman's fault (which is damn ridiculous).
The bible Belt is full of the kinkiest, most perverted people on the planet.
Their religion simply allows them to have a clear conscience about the shit they do. It's like Oh, I'm sorry I screwed the neighbors wife, his 3 kids, and their dog." So it's BOOM!, forgiven until next weekend.
Re:The Internet of Things.... (Score:5, Funny)
It's obviously the "free hand of the market" moving up and down...
(Sounds of "Dick In A Box" music welling up in the background...)
Why, why, why? (Score:5, Funny)
Why would anyone think this is a good idea?
I wouldn't even have an internet-connected thermostat in my house and that just controls the HVAC.
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Remote BDSM games with a remote partner. Esp. during a pandemic
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Remote BDSM games with a remote partner. Esp. during a pandemic
No, I get that, but it *still* doesn't make it a good idea, especially with the abundance of reported security issues surrounding internet-connected things. Also, unless this device does other things, like vibrate, simply being able to unlock it remotely isn't a sustainable game as you can't make someone put it on remotely. (Okay, maybe you can if he's really committed to the games. I'd like to see/hear that enticement.)
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especially with the abundance of reported security issues surrounding internet-connected things
Who pays attention to that outside the tech community? Almost no layman even understands 'internet security' and I am pretty sure that if you ask most purchasers of this product whether they even consider the possibility of 'losing control to someone else', the answer would probably be "I don't think that is possible".
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especially with the abundance of reported security issues surrounding internet-connected things
Who pays attention to that outside the tech community?
The guy that had to saw that thing off his dick is paying attention now. Also women have become locked into their devices, and it eventually gets sort of messy once a month - yes, it has happened. Thos folks got themselves a first class understanding of the insecurity of IOT now.
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Oh, these locks had this vulnerability reported months ago. They had some pretty basic API fuckups IIRC.
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Remote BDSM games with a remote partner. Esp. during a pandemic
Well, they are getting the epitome of bondage and sadism. Would that actually be a threeway once player 3 enters the game?
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Remote BDSM games with a remote partner. Esp. during a pandemic
See, they read BDSM, confused it with BSD, and thought it was secure...
Re:Why, why, why? (Score:5, Insightful)
I mean, I'm a little teary because of how hard I laughed at this.
I refuse to allow my IoT lights to be reachable from outside the house. And those have fucking switches that I could turn off if someone hacked them. And when the base is disconnected they work like normal lightbulbs, just without the scheduling and fancy colors.
And here's this dude who lets his dick cage be accessible on the internet, and it apparently doesn't have a backup key or safety override. That's a magical amount of stupid.
I'm glad he was stupid enough to share, because now it's going to be on the internet forever.
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He didn't make it accessible on the internet directly, it depended on a third party service operated by the manufacturer which he had no control over.
A lot of devices these days depend on an external service, a lot of users are stuck behind NAT so there's no other option for them. The devices operate like malware and regularly phone home for instructions.
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Not an answer to your question, but this seems like a good time to mention the classic movie Hell Comes to Frogtown [wikipedia.org]
To make sure that the rebellious Hell follows his orders, he is forced to wear an electronic protective codpiece that will explode if he disobeys or tries to abort his mission.
Re:Why, why, why? (Score:4, Insightful)
Why would anyone think this is a good idea?
Nobody would. That's the *point*. Fetishes are transgressive and feel dangerous, which turns out to be stimulating to monkey brains.
It's not my cup of tea -- not many peoples' for that matter (again that's part of the point) -- but I don't look down on people who do want to do this sort of thing. I *do* look down on people who actually try it without any contingency plans.
Universe is telling you something... (Score:5, Insightful)
Maybe you shouldn’t be reproducing if you trust your appendage to a cloud connected cage.
Willpower. (Score:2)
Wow. Apparently "just say no" isn't enough. Now you got to lock it up.
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Apparently this is actually a bondage / S&M toy. So I wonder if the possibility of getting remotely hacked is perhaps part of the thrill.
The #1 problem (Score:5, Interesting)
The #1 problem here is that this sex toy for BDSM play did not have a safety override that could be easily triggered with a kitchen knife. The fault lies squarely on the manufacturer.
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The #1 problem here is that this sex toy for BDSM play did not have a safety override that could be easily triggered with a kitchen knife. The fault lies squarely on the manufacturer.
You can't let the user off that easily.
This falls squarely in the "play stupid games, win stupid prizes" territory.
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Nope, you can let the user off. Just like those fluffy cuffs you use for a fun night with the girl can still be opened if you lose the key there is absolutely an expectation that a toy which can injure you has a safety override.
BDSM play isn't new, and largely its practitioners are quite careful with their sex organs so it's hardly "play stupid games" territory for a device that absolutely should have a fail safe mechanism.
If you crash your car and the airbag doesn't work do you blame yourself for not havin
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Isn't not letting the user get off easily the exact point?
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The #1 problem here is that this sex toy for BDSM play did not have a safety override that could be easily triggered with a kitchen knife ...
Considering what the product is designed for, I'd prefer a safety override that could be triggered with a hair pin or something that isn't likely to make matters worse in the event of further complications ...
Or, literally, a key.
But, ya, a knife seems like exactly the wrong override solution for this. :-)
Also, why does this need to be internet-connected? It's a cage lock. Unless it does something else too (like vibrates), how often do you need someone to be able to interact with it? Remotely?
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Not at all. A safety can be a physical key, just like every other similar type device.
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Re:The #1 problem (Score:4, Insightful)
> The #1 problem here is that this sex toy for BDSM play did not have a safety override that could be easily triggered with a kitchen knife
When it comes to an object like this, the lack of a safety override may actually be a selling point to a user who, err, explicitly seeks out situations without safety overrides.
This case is reasonably bizarre, so I'm not totally sure what good advice here is (beyond the obvious). I will say that it's a real shame that the hacker didn't end the situation with the cryptocurrency transfer; that would have made for a funnier story.
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who, err, explicitly seeks out situations without safety overrides.
Safety override does not imply easy to tamper with. A simple key would do. Give that to the wife too.
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That's surely how they must of worked because you could give everything an IP address. I think they were dumb to even buy an IoT sex toy but that's just me. I don't trust IoT unless I'm controlling all the components.
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It was only a matter of time (Score:2)
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Why you would put your cock in a cage? Might as well cut it off with a cigar cutter.
I know this doesn't really answer the "why" but, to be fair, the cage thing is easily reversible ...
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Yeah, damn, those "always on" vibrators are lethal. So and so will never sit straight again.
and this is why you don't pay extortionists (Score:5, Insightful)
Why does it surprise people when criminals don't keep their promises? They're going to great efforts (bitcoin) to hide their identities - clearly they're not worried about you leaving them a negative review!
"I paid the ransom and they still refused to unlock my junk - 0/10 would not recommend!"
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Why does it surprise people when criminals don't keep their promises?
Well, the guy admits to being a bitcoin owner - so we can infer that he's rather gullible.
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If he bought bitcoin during the $20k bubble a few years ago he’s still ahead today where one is worth $36k.
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Then he'd want to cash out immediately (better yet, a few weeks ago), never look at BTC again, and thank God he dodged the bullet. Because if he waits another couple months, he'll be back in the red.
I guess he could buy a small amount, something he can afford to lose, and just treat it as a stake on the card table. But it's probably not wise to bet on a game with unknown rules. There is nobody who can predict if, much less when, BTC will spike again. Closest to that would be the hypemasters and other sophis
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Why does it surprise people when criminals don't keep their promises?
Even extortionists rely on their reputation.
Now that I know dicknappers don't keep their word, they will receive nothing from me.
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Yikes. (Score:4, Funny)
Should have wrapped it in PPTP.
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Actually, I still haven't remembered what PPTP stands for, and I remember things like barb and ppp from the 1970's. I have the vague feeling that it's one of the Ethernet protocol wrappers.
Oh. I looked it up, and it's a Microsoft protocol. That explains it.
Re: Yikes. (Score:2)
Pick Better People To Speak To (Score:2)
Y'all can't be that hard up for peeps to talk to.
Thor_Reaally.jpg? (Score:5, Insightful)
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P2P takes on a new meaning.
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Say what? No way. (Score:2)
I looked up a pic of that thing when this story first came out. It doesn't wrap around behind you or seem to get held on in any serious way I can figure. It looks like a play toy for mental stimulation not for being locked up in real chastity. No matter your size or shape that thing should just slip off your dick if you're not hard. Maybe some lube to ease it off if it's on there really tight.
From the pictures I'm not even sure how it stays on by itself even without hackers involved.
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You can't tell from the pictures of just the device, but in the Pen Test Partners article [pentestpartners.com], the description of the device pretty much explains how it would be almost impossible, or downright terrifying, to try to remove manually...
We discovered that remote attackers could prevent the Bluetooth lock from being opened, permanently locking the user in the device. There is no physical unlock. The tube is locked onto a ring worn around the base of the genitals, making things inaccessible. An angle grinder or other suitable heavy tool would be required to cut the wearer free.
So it sounds like just sliding it off would require your balls to flatten as well - that's the kicker.
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There's a simpler solution
doubtless the Lockpicking lawyer would call this "an inexcusable design flaw", but it's a useful one.
From the writeups of this I've seen... (Score:5, Insightful)
Apparently the company has instructions for how to unlock the device with a screwdriver. And the security researchers who found the issue had a couple of other ideas https://www.pentestpartners.co... [pentestpartners.com]
Internet-connected penis prisons still seem like a really fucking dumb idea, though.
Re:From the writeups of this I've seen... (Score:5, Funny)
Apparently the company has instructions for how to unlock the device with a screwdriver. And the security researchers who found the issue had a couple of other ideas https://www.pentestpartners.co... [pentestpartners.com]
Internet-connected penis prisons still seem like a really fucking dumb idea, though.
Irony: Article about a penis cage lock by a penetration testing site.
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Ohh, that's funny. That line should of been in the song.
A Chinese Dick Trap!! (Score:4, Funny)
May be embarrassing but.. (Score:5, Informative)
That's what hospitals are for.
There's a plethora of tools and contacts available to your average ED that would have assisted, and made that a reasonably safe task, rather than 'going it alone' and risking emasculation..
I've absolutely no problem with people gaming like that if it makes their life better and happier, but do go the safe route after.. It'd be even more embarrassing to go to the ED with a penis on a block of ice and trying to explain how it was cut off than it would having the cage removed.
And yeah, another call to increase security as well. I think they'll be going on a crash course into how to secure those devices soon. :)
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You as a 15 year old are probably more skilled, and resourceful, than most adults. Definitely more resourceful than Mr. Bolt Cutters, when a smaller tool would have sufficed. He's never heard of this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... [wikipedia.org]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... [wikipedia.org]
or the "right tool for the right job."
Now that you know the secret that most adults are incompetent compared to intelligent, resourceful 15 year olds, still at least try to appear to listen to those adults in positions of authority over you.
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JFC, diction matters (Score:5, Informative)
"Nonetheless, he was able to break the cage, but the cutters still cut through him"
They didn't cut THROUGH him, they cut INTO him. Or they CUT him. Cut through him makes it sound like he snipped his whole fucking dick off, and he didn't.
I'm more angry about the word choice here than some guy in chastity making a questionable decision. (Next time, just go to the ER, dude. They'll forget about you 10 minutes after you leave. They've got a lot of other stuff on their minds right now.)
That's when... (Score:2)
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No no no, he was turned on when the unknown internet stranger locked up his junk. Such is the way of masochism.
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Seems like Darwin (Score:3)
Anyone who is willing to put their penis in an Internet enabled Chinese manufactured trap should probably stay out of our future gene pool anyway.
Moral of the story... (Score:2)
Kind of appropriate ... (Score:2)
that this was written up on vice.com :-)
Should have put a lock on his account (Score:5, Funny)
Ironic part is he had this lock on and still got screwed!
Butt Plugg (Score:2)
play stupid games.... (Score:2)
More bigottedness (Score:2)
> a China-based manufacturer.
Who cares where they are based?
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Who cares where they are based?
China is currently the home of low margin electronic goods, because they can make stuff very cheaply, and that means keeping costs as low as possible, which inevitably means cut corners (and dicks apparently). And security is hard (unlike this chap's... you get the idea), and is one of the first things to go. More expensive items can be made in more expensive locations like Germany, Japan and the good old US of A, because margins are higher and it's not necessary to shave off
What could go wrong? (Score:2)
Hackers: some branding for you (Score:2)
Well, I'll say! (Score:2)
So chastity play is fun and effective (Score:2)
There are many benefits to chastity play within a romantic couple.
Increased attention, increased passion, increased attentiveness, increased stamina, ability to edge to endless orgasm without going over the edge (including fully body orgasm without ejaculation), increased emotional bonding (like being in high school dating again-falling in love all over again). Real world chastity play runs 3-9 days...
I don't judge guys who do it with a pro but it won't have all those benefits. Their chastity play can go
Free Willy! (Score:3)
I don't think I have to say more.
Seriously... WTF? I had a... *ahem*... hard time believing the article or how such a ridiculous story could be true, or even why anyone would put their dick in a cage to begin with.
I have come to the conclusion that if someone's dumb enough to lock their dick in a cage, then they probably deserve whatever happens to them.