A Home Security Worker Hacked Into Surveillance Systems To Watch People Have Sex (gizmodo.com) 141
An anonymous reader quotes a report from Gizmodo: A former employee of prominent home security company ADT has admitted that he hacked into the surveillance feeds of dozens of customer homes, doing so primarily to spy on naked women or to leer at unsuspecting couples while they had sex. Telesforo Aviles, 35, pleaded guilty to a count of computer fraud in federal court this week, confessing that he inappropriately accessed the accounts of customers some 9,600 times over the course of several years. He is alleged to have done this to over 200 customers.
Authorities say that the IT technician "took note of which homes had attractive women, then repeatedly logged into these customers' accounts in order to view their footage for sexual gratification." He did this by adding his personal email address to customer accounts, which ultimately hooked him into "real-time access to the video feeds from their homes." Aviles, who now faces up to five years in prison, sometimes "claimed he needed to add himself temporarily in order to 'test' the system; in other instances, he added himself without their knowledge," officials said. "This defendant, entrusted with safeguarding customers' homes, instead intruded on their most intimate moments," acting U.S. Attorney Prerak Shah said in a statement. "We are glad to hold him accountable for this disgusting betrayal of trust." The scandal has inspired multiple lawsuits -- three of which are ongoing. ADT tried using confidentiality agreements to keep some customers silent.
The company told BuzzFeed that it is "continuing to respond to the lawsuits and has resolved the concerns of most of the 220 impacted customers, including those who have retained attorneys to address the issue."
Authorities say that the IT technician "took note of which homes had attractive women, then repeatedly logged into these customers' accounts in order to view their footage for sexual gratification." He did this by adding his personal email address to customer accounts, which ultimately hooked him into "real-time access to the video feeds from their homes." Aviles, who now faces up to five years in prison, sometimes "claimed he needed to add himself temporarily in order to 'test' the system; in other instances, he added himself without their knowledge," officials said. "This defendant, entrusted with safeguarding customers' homes, instead intruded on their most intimate moments," acting U.S. Attorney Prerak Shah said in a statement. "We are glad to hold him accountable for this disgusting betrayal of trust." The scandal has inspired multiple lawsuits -- three of which are ongoing. ADT tried using confidentiality agreements to keep some customers silent.
The company told BuzzFeed that it is "continuing to respond to the lawsuits and has resolved the concerns of most of the 220 impacted customers, including those who have retained attorneys to address the issue."
Cameras Inside? (Score:5, Insightful)
I have cameras on the outside of my home and record each on a local server. However, I would never want a camera inside my home, not even in public areas. It just feels creepy. And in this case, it is.
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Not just inside, but in your bedroom? WTF...
Kinky people sometimes have sex in the kitchen.
So even do it in the laundry room. Didn't you ever play "Maytag repairman"?
Re:Cameras Inside? (Score:5, Funny)
I would, but my Maytag washer and dryer combo never break down.
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I would, but my Maytag washer and dryer combo never break down.
Just switch it off at the wall. Leaves more time for the main part of the show and you can time the fix for just the seconds before the climax, which is obviously going to help with the repairman fetish.
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Kinky people sometimes have sex in the kitchen.
Isn't having sex in the kitchen fairly "vanilla"?
(Well, except perhaps if you use actual vanilla, then it's not quite so "vanilla"....)
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Remind me not to come to your house for dinner.
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What about for home invasion? Outdoor cameras may not always capture enough details to catch a masked intruder. Inside a home the bungler's mannerisms and things like that can be analyzed. An estimated 3.7 million household burglaries occurred each year on average from 2003 to 2007. In about 28% of these burglaries, a household member was present during the burglary. In 7% of all household burglaries (260,000), a household member experienced some form of violent victimization -- assault, rape, or homicide.
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What about for home invasion?
I can see this as a valid case - especially if the customer's expectation was that:
1. they would be the only ones with access to the videos (ie. password protected, encrypted, etc.) and
2. recordings would only be available to 3rd parties via a subpoena/warrant.
Clearly, 2) wasn't the case here; I don't know if the product/services was sold with 1) being a feature.
Re:Cameras Inside? (Score:5, Insightful)
So, basically over the course of 30 years you have a 0.1% chance or less of being violently victimized in a household burglary, so you install cameras inside that watch you 24x7 in order to potentially catch an intruder via gate analysis?
Sorry, but that has to be about the dumbest solution to a problem I can imagine... even dumber than having a gun in your bedside table unlocked.
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So, basically over the course of 30 years you have a 0.1% chance or less of being violently victimized in a household burglary, so you install cameras inside that watch you 24x7 in order to potentially catch an intruder via gate analysis?
Sorry, but that has to be about the dumbest solution to a problem I can imagine... even dumber than having a gun in your bedside table unlocked.
A woman I worked with husband was one of those. Slept with a loaded 45, safety off, under his pillow. She said it did pretty much wreck their sex life. But his paranoia overrode his libido.
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A loaded Remmie 870 located somewhere you can get to it in a hurry is a much better defense against home invasion than a security camera.
Under your pillow is pretty stupid, though.
There was a picture I saw once, a nice looking lady in sexy lingerie, looking kinda pissed at the guy in bed beside her as he was hugging his rifle, fast asleep.
I dunno. I I felt the need to sleep with a gun, I'd create a hardened safe room, because unless I woke up, the bad guy could off m in my sleep.
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Reminds me about doing door-to-door sales in Texas one summer... when someone opens the door there was an equal probability of a woman coming to the door wearing little or nothing as a man pointing a gun at you. Not sure if the two are related...
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Reminds me about doing door-to-door sales in Texas one summer... when someone opens the door there was an equal probability of a woman coming to the door wearing little or nothing as a man pointing a gun at you. Not sure if the two are related...
Get shot, or get laid. Sounds like deal.
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Re:Cameras Inside? (Score:5, Insightful)
Most people are not competent to do risk management. This is just another example of sleazebags exploiting that by selling them "security" that does not work or makes things worse.
Re:Cameras Inside? (Score:4, Funny)
So, basically over the course of 30 years you have a 0.1% chance or less of being violently victimized in a household burglary, so you install cameras inside that watch you 24x7 in order to potentially catch an intruder via gait analysis?
I do it so I can figure out which one of my kids finished the milk but didn't get another gallon from the fridge in the garage. And to have video of cool family events that might have gone uncaptured, as well as exciting moments like when one of my sons started a grease fire in the kitchen (I put that one on YouTube!). And to be able to check in on the house when I'm at home -- including to see if the stove was left on or similar. And... honestly, the uses are endless.
But I don't have a camera in my bedroom. I have one in the living room/kitchen area, one in the baby's room (to act as a better baby monitor), one inside the garage and three outside the house, including the doorbell camera.
As for anyone looking at me naked, I disclaim all liability for any damage they may suffer. You wanna look, fine, but the result is not my fault.
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But I don't have a camera in my bedroom.
Yeah but you don't need one. You can always have sex in the kitchen when the kids aren't home. (Even when the wife isn't home if that's your thing).
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There is a difference between surviving and rebuilding, and hoping that one of your family members can track down the perpetrator on the off chance something happens.
As for insurance, generally it is a miserable value; you have it because you need to have it. I have homeowner’s insurance (and a hurricane policy) because there is about a 5% chance I will be able to recover the cost over 20 years if something goes wrong. I will consider dropping the policy when the house is paid off, but as long as it
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Why have insurance at all? Statistically nothing is likely to go wrong.
I don't.
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Depends what you want to insure.
In most parts Germany a house insurance is mandatory. But hat basically covers the roof is burning (and jumps over to other houses) or a storm is throwing down shingles and hitting cars or people.
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I question your numbers. Violent home invasions are exceptionally rare. Burglars hide or run when surprised. Most do not turn violent. At last that is the situration here (Europe).
Got a reference?
As to identifying a burglar via camera, that is the wrong approach and has no deterrence value. What you need to do is that somebody gets sent immediately when your perimeter is breached.
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Burglars hide or run when surprised. Most do not turn violent. At last that is the situration here (Europe).
In Europe burglars can be almost 100% sure of getting away if they can outrun the home owner and even if they get caught all that will happen is a relatively short period in jail. For this reason they actively avoid coming armed. In the states, especially with stand your ground laws and the castle doctrine, they can assume that if they don't disable the home occupier then there's a decent chance they will get shot. The calculus is completely different. Plus the number of known serial killers (look up the Z
Re:Cameras Inside? (Score:4, Insightful)
So because many home-owners are armed, they get raped and killed? That sounds like an epic fail to me.
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So because many home-owners are armed, they get raped and killed? That sounds like an epic fail to me.
There is a question: "which came first the chicken or the egg". In Switzerland a higher proportion of home owners are armed than in the states and yet home owners getting raped and killed by burglars is just a non-issue. Also remember that, with of course massive variance in every direction and all sorts of specifics for other social and racial groups, statistically speaking it tends to be rich white home owners in nicer areas that are armed whilst it tends to be poor black renters in bad areas that are ge
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Ah, no. In Switzerland, these weapons are assault rifles and they have to be locked up, unloaded, and the sealed emergency ammunition pack also has to be locked up. No way to get these to work in the short time you have when somebody invades your home.
The argument carries for the amount of amok-runs, but not for "home defense".
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Well rape aside, the killed scenario is definitely a case in America which we hear about over and over again. A home invasion is far more likely to end fatally in the USA than in many other western nations. An altercation with police as well and we hear the same justification "The poor police need to assume all suspects will pull a gun and start blasting at any second" Violence begets violence.
You can see the sad difference here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... [wikipedia.org] where the list is separated and categorised b
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Statistically, that's more likely.
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Burgling in Europe is 5 years in jail. .. no idea what your brain dead reasoning is.
Repeating it is up to 10
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Burgling in Europe is 5 years in jail. .. no idea what your brain dead reasoning is.
Repeating it is up to 10
There is no European wide criminal system so you can't just state that; even when sentences match what you just said, that's a maximum and normal sentences are lower. However, your third offence in many places in the US can lead to life imprisonment which is a "cruel and unusual" punishment and so illegal in Europe meaning that it doesn't happen anywhere. So whilst I'm not saying that sentences are weak; relative to US sentences they are more reasonable for most things in most countries.
The life imprisonme
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The US is an order of magnitude more violent than Europe. It's kind of a first world humanitarian disaster.
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Hell, we're an order of magnitude more violent than Canada.
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You can pretty much substitute any reasonably developed country in that sentence, and a good number of the less developed ones too.
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So aa camera is recording that you got raped and homicided ... and what actually is the point?
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I got those statistics from the US department of justice website .. not an ad. Do you think those numbers are false? What's your alternate numbers? Here is the link to my source: https://www.bjs.gov/content/pu... [bjs.gov]
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*Simple assault (15%) was the most common form of violence when a resident was home and violence occurred. Robbery (7%) and rape (3%) were less likely to occur when a household member was present and violence occurred.
*Offenders were known to their victims in 65% of violent burglaries; offenders were strangers in 28%.
*Households residing in single family units and higher density structures of 10 or more units were least likely to be burglarized (8 per 1,000 households) while a household member was present.
*Serious injury accounted for 9% and minor injury accounted for 36% of injuries sustained by household members who were home and experienced violence during a completed burglary.
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And the US government derives tax revenue from the gun industry ... so how is it not an advert?
What it actually advertises is that 72% of burglars are competent in doing their homework, entering the premises they wish to steal from in coordination with the target people's normal routine. No sane burglar wants to meet a person in the house they're attempting to steal from (non-property crimes being a species of insanity).
The oth
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These stats feel suspiciously like marketing points for a security system (or ad for gun enthusiasts). In how many cases would cameras inside the house solve a crime? I mean if you're lucky maybe helping convict at trial. I'm willing to bet more crimes (DV etc) come from residents inside the home. Which, in some cases cameras could be a tool of a controlling partner.
Cameras inside the home are always a real problem. Especially if they use cloud storage. Have a teenage daughter? When I was in school, I had a friend who as soon as she got home, everything came off. So there ya got your underage girl zipping around the house naked.
There was a case in the Philadelpia area where school issued laptops were used to spy on students at home while the computers were on. Same thing.
If by chance, a couple wishes to record their boinking activity, it should not be on an intern
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Have a teenage daughter? When I was in school, I had a friend who as soon as she got home, everything came off.
How do you know that?
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Have a teenage daughter? When I was in school, I had a friend who as soon as she got home, everything came off.
How do you know that?
Well, I did note she was a friend. But fear not, we were the same age. 8^)
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Re: Cameras Inside? (Score:2)
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In most states it doesn't qualify as a felony unless the value of what's stolen exceeds $1000. Since prosecutors generally don't have the time to bother with misdemeanor crimes the police don't waste the time investigating them. I've been working in the admin area of a police station when someone came in with a photo of the bike they had previously reported stolen parked in front of a neighbor's house in plain view, and heard them tell him that because the bike wasn't worth over $1000 they weren't going t
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It makes you wonder how many people who graduated to serious felonies started with things like stealing neighbors bikes and, when they realized they could do it with impunity, started committing larger and larger crimes. There are enough dumb laws on the books that it would be a disaster if every one of them were enforced all the time, but robbery should not just be ignored.
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My understanding is that most credit card fraud is under $1000 per incident because of the felony cut-off. Buy 5 $800 items and it's still 5 misdemeanors.
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Well, fear is the mind-killer. At least now these people have a documented reason to fear cameras as well ;-)
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We have a couple of cameras inside our cottage, one points at the back window wall and the area under the skylights so that we can check if there's been damage while we're at home. Then there is one in the garage and the walk in closet, since we were renting it through Airbnb and those were supposed to be off-limits areas.
I've worked in physical security for about 16 years now, and ADT has always been known as the crappiest of the security companies. They specialize in residential and retail installations
AirBnb has hosts doing this as well (Score:2)
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I agree, and I think you were probably implying this, even if you didn't say it specifically (I wasn't sure if you meant just somebody setting up the equipment and the service, or not trusting anybody else for the job as in managing the recordings etc).
For me, that would definitely imply absolutely zero cloud connectivity. If anything I would want my home surveillance to be entirely closed circuit. Just a LAN not even connected to the internet that stored any and all recordings on a local server/NAS.
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I agree, and I think you were probably implying this, even if you didn't say it specifically (I wasn't sure if you meant just somebody setting up the equipment and the service, or not trusting anybody else for the job as in managing the recordings etc).
For me, that would definitely imply absolutely zero cloud connectivity. If anything I would want my home surveillance to be entirely closed circuit. Just a LAN not even connected to the internet that stored any and all recordings on a local server/NAS.
Even if you wanted interior cams, it seems like one pointed toward the doors should be sufficient. But cameras in the rooms are a minefield, especially if underage children are in the house.
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"If you wanted interior cams" is probably a good way to put it. I personally don't have, nor do I want any sort of surveillance in my home. I was kind of intentionally making the point that I most specifically wouldn't want that being on a server somewhere outside of my control.
great point about having underage children. It sort of reminds me of stories I've read in the past related to cloud connected baby monitors with cameras and the ability to speak through them.
It's all scary.
I'm not even of the mind
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The potential flaw is the robber taking your server/nas.
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True, as unlikely as that is to happen out here. I live way out in the country where IT work almost certainly involves a 2 hour commute or remote work to the nearest city. Most people out here are farmers and physical laborers. I tell people I work with computers when they ask why I do.
Anyway, while that's a great point in the advantage of having important data on the cloud, I was specifically more concerned about who had access to information, data or footage of me and my family without my knowing. I'm
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Well with some thought, a nas or small server can be hidden, otherwise, I'd assume that robbers are going to grab what looks valuable. And while being rural (I worry more about a bear breaking in then people) helps, there is still a non-trivial amount of crime, though at least where I am, it is usually out buildings being broken into. There was a B&E close by about 20 years back, where the teenage daughter was unexpectedly at home, they tied her to a chair and left really quick but would have ransacked
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If you want to get the discount for the loyalty card just use the phone number 321 123 4567, there are probably a couple hundred people who use it and it works almost everywhere. Most places the number is registered to 'George Orwell'. It always amuses me the number of cashiers who think that's my actual phone number.
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https://help.ui.com/hc/en-us/a... [ui.com]
Safeguarding privacy (Score:5, Insightful)
"This defendant, entrusted with safeguarding customers' homes, instead intruded on their most intimate moments,"
Indeed.
I always thought of companies like Facebook, Amazon, ClearView AI, etc. as "privacy rapists" given what they do with people's data without their knowledge - but this guy took it to a whole new level.
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"This defendant, entrusted with safeguarding customers' homes, instead intruded on their most intimate moments,"
Indeed.
I always thought of companies like Facebook, Amazon, ClearView AI, etc. as "privacy rapists" given what they do with people's data without their knowledge - but this guy took it to a whole new level.
What makes you think his level is any different from Google, Amazon, Facebook and Apple's level?
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What makes you think his level is any different from Google, Amazon, Facebook and Apple's level?
Well, the quote pretty much said it:
You typically hire a security company for, you know, [physical] security, which is what you expect from them.
All those other tech companies, I don't expect that from them - yes, I do expect some data security from them, but it's definitively a different expectation than the one, single thing a security company is hired for.
My main beef with tech companies is that they abuse the use of peop
Re:Safeguarding privacy (Score:5, Insightful)
What I find most striking is that this guy did it around 10'000 times before getting caught. Clearly there was absolutely nothing effective in place to catch or prevent this behavior and he got caught by accident.
Not new at all (Score:3)
Operators of the nude-body scanners used at airports were caught red-handed doing this sort of thing quite frequently when the scanners were new. We were promised that they were all professionals who wouldn't mishandle the data, and in fact they were unvetted randoms hired off the street who did this sort of thing with reckless abandon. In one famous case, nude scans of a famous actor were printed out by staff and circulated, with one actually approaching the actor and asking him to autograph it!
I have no
You think that's bad... (Score:2)
What we learned (Score:3)
ADT has zero internal auditing.
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Not a surprise, their installs are widely known as being among the worst in the industry. Can't make it as an installer at any reputable company? ADT has a job for you!
That's a crime? (Score:2)
C'mon now. Who among us can honestly say they've never hacked into a camera security system for the purposes of watching others have sex... I mean, really...
The "post anonymously" checkbox (Score:3)
The "post anonymously" checkbox is just above the "preview" button. Just sayin.
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Whoooosh! ...
Does Slashdot really need to add an "irony" or "sarcasm" button so people can mark their posts?
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Meta Whoosh.
Shirley you must have noticed when, along with the other regular slashcode updates, they put in the button for the tag </sarcasm>
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Apparently. I'm pretty sure the parent wasn't any more serious than the GP.
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Early in my career of physical security I was replacing the VCR recorders in the Seahawks stadium (yeah, they actually installed VCRs when they built the place) with DVRs. All but two of them were broken before I started, and at shift change one of the guards saw what I was up to and exclaimed, "Damn! Man, why weren't you here two weeks ago?" I asked why, and he said, "After the bars closed that Saturday some really hot chick and her boyfriend got into one of the parking garage stairwells and fucked like
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Expectation of privacy ... (Score:2)
At least this guy seems to have not recorded them or posted them on porn sites. Or has he?
Why do people put these things in their bedroom? (Score:2)
It seems like pointing the cameras at areas any intruder has to go through to get anywhere in the house would be much more useful, and most house layouts I have seen the bedroom and bathroom are of no use. Also if the intruder can see the camera feed, it might be nice for them to not know whether there is somebody in the bedroom, where they are, and whether they are reloading their gun or whatever.
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Except a third of break-ins are through a window, maybe the thief never goes to another room? I'd say have coverage for whole house but only activate the bedrooms upon leaving. Easy to ensure that if you're rolling your home IP camera and secure server, whether a commercial product could be trusted welp... no I wouldn't trust 'em.
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The overhead for a security NVR is incredibly low. Ours is an old cast-off laptop shoved in a cabinet.
There's lots to watch (Score:2)
All those people with their LALS (loud afternoon lockdown sex) all over the city ruin my meditation.
I don't even want a speaker inside my house (Score:2)
An definitely not a camera. Actually, I do have one inside my house, but it's pointed outside.
and absolutely nobody was surprised (Score:2)
The fundamental problem with security is that it requires trust of the people who are providing the service. Often the temptation is too great to take advantage of the situation.
This could easily apply to government as well.
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Indeed. Classical "who watches the watchers". That problem cannot be solved.
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It can be solved. It will in this case.
After ADT execs finish explaining to their shareholders why the balance sheet has a gaping wound that costs 50x what it would have cost to prevent the problem they will employ a watcher.
But does that actually solve the problem, or does it make the voyeurs more clever? Or does it simply push the voyeurs to the watchers who watch the watchers?
I heard a rumor somewhere that the law enforcement teams who police child porn have their own collection of the "best stuff".
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It is reminiscent of the Two Generals Problem which is insolvable - you can reduce the probability of failure to arbitrarily low levels by multiple levels of confirmation (surveillance) but it cannot be made to disappear.
It took _this_ long? (Score:2)
More likely it took this long for somebody stupid enough to get caught doing it. This is a rather obvious attack and the scenario has already been used countless times to explain the problem and also to ridicule the idea of home-surveillance.
Security through unatractiveness (Score:2)
the IT technician "took note of which homes had attractive women,
So you are safe if you are ugly.
Re: Security through unatractiveness (Score:2)
Hey! Only Amazon employees are allowed that! (Score:2)
Nobody else!
Not "hacking" (Score:2)
Adding your own email address to an access list is certainly sneaky and in this case illegal, but I wouldn't call it hacking. There was no coding or computer expertise involved.
Good thing I don’t have cameras in my bedroo (Score:2)
Good thing I don’t have cameras in my bedroom. Or else I might be prosecuted for manslaughter because he would have died from boredom.
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Hacked? (Score:2)
Hacked? (Score:2)
Google invested in ADT months ago to ogle women (Score:2)
ADT and Google Partner To Create Leading Smart Home Security Offering [globenewswire.com]
August 3, 2020
"ADT (NYSE: ADT), a leading provider of security and smart home solutions, and Google today announced they are entering into a long-term partnership to create the next generation of smart home security offerings. The partnership will combine Nest's award-winning hardware and services, powered by Google's machine learning technology, with ADT's installation, service and professional monitoring network to create a more helpfu
Added his email? (Score:2)
He did this by adding his personal email address to customer accounts, which ultimately hooked him into "real-time access to the video feeds from their homes."
Aside from the obvious question as to why people are having sex in front of their security cameras, I find it pretty amazing that there were no safeguards in place to alert users that a new email had been added to their account. That's a pretty huge failure on ADT's part and really bad design.
A former employee? (Score:2)
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IT WILL EXIST FOREVER. (Don't give me that nonsense that it's purged.)
IAAPSP (physical security professional) and can tell you that unless there is a specific reason for maintaining a recording that it does get dumped after x-amount of time. Storage has a cost, it's not free, and 90+ percent of all recorded video doesn't even have a human being in it. Most of the rest consists of people moving into the field of view and back out of it. Ring has no use for the view in front of your doorbell unless there is an event, and if the owner doesn't evidence any interest in the even
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I work at Amazon, we have over 100,000 cameras worldwide (we're the world's largest integrated access/alarm/video install) which record 0.25 to 5 gigs of video each per day, don't try to tell us "Storage is nearly free". Recordings are dumped within 24 hours to 90 days depending on site/location. Fewer than 500 recordings are saved long term, the vast majority 1 minute or less in length, and almost certainly less than 1500 are saved for shorter periods (event investigations mostly) of a month or two.
Video
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The better VMSs (video management systems) have fairly granular control of users. There is a very select group (probably less than 150) users worldwide who can export video from the system, so if video escapes to YouTube or something it's generally not that difficult to find out where it came from in most cases. I know of at least one person who was fired for doing that, there have probably been others. The goal of security is not to make the perfect system, since that's impossible, but to limit exposure