Trump Blew Up More Than Just TikTok and WeChat (bloomberg.com) 145
An anonymous reader quotes a report from Bloomberg: U.S. President Donald Trump's decision to ban dealings with ByteDance, owner of video-sharing sensation TikTok, appears to codify what his administration has already been warning. A second edict targeting messaging app WeChat and its parent, Tencent, seems weirdly overdue. The executive orders issued by the White House go beyond stopping average Americans from becoming unwitting spies for the Communist Party through their postings and data. The implications could hurt not only the Chinese targets, but the U.S. companies they work with, including Apple and Alphabet's Google.
Though TikTok and WeChat have been getting all the recent attention, the orders state that American companies cannot work with ByteDance or Tencent (though an unnamed U.S. official later stated that Tencent transactions were still OK). That clarification notwithstanding, the wording of the orders does imply that regardless of intention such bans could extend further, to include Americans advertising on dozens of products offered by either Chinese company, or to selling them cloud-storage services, or perhaps the most nuclear option: distributing their apps, even within China. [...] Even though Chinese smartphone brands dominate their domestic market, iOS and Android remain the dominant platforms and Apple and Google cover almost the entire global ecosystem with their respective app stores. If they can't do business with ByteDance, for example, even after a TikTok spin off, then the Beijing company might be unable to distribute its own apps, even within China.
Though TikTok and WeChat have been getting all the recent attention, the orders state that American companies cannot work with ByteDance or Tencent (though an unnamed U.S. official later stated that Tencent transactions were still OK). That clarification notwithstanding, the wording of the orders does imply that regardless of intention such bans could extend further, to include Americans advertising on dozens of products offered by either Chinese company, or to selling them cloud-storage services, or perhaps the most nuclear option: distributing their apps, even within China. [...] Even though Chinese smartphone brands dominate their domestic market, iOS and Android remain the dominant platforms and Apple and Google cover almost the entire global ecosystem with their respective app stores. If they can't do business with ByteDance, for example, even after a TikTok spin off, then the Beijing company might be unable to distribute its own apps, even within China.
In summary (Score:5, Funny)
China: TikTok!
U.S.: Tick, tock.
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China: TikTok!
U.S.: Tick, tock.
Exactly! We have met the enemy and he is us
Re: In summary (Score:2)
We're are own enemy for letting the Communist Chinese getting this far for infiltrating our behemoth social media companies advocating censorship at every level, or for pulling the plug now on companies that let foreign influencers make decisions that don't have America's interests at heart??
Re: In summary (Score:2, Insightful)
Re: In summary (Score:1)
No, I think he meant having a president that makes EOs like he thinks we are a dictatorship
You're like a decade late with that commentary.
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Two decades, actually.
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Why do you care what China does? Trump certainly doesn't. He told Xi personally he though it was the right thing to do.
In fact the leaders Trump admires most are China, Russia, Saudi-Arabia and Turkey. Think about that for a moment...
Re: In summary (Score:4, Interesting)
Re: In summary (Score:2)
My thoughts exactly
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What do you mean, just like your typical US corporation that puts profits first and the interests of the people, what the fuck, are you joking, interests of the people FUCK OFF, profits, profits, profits, dummy.
The USA is losing the economic war with China and is doing silly shite that makes it worse. Provides greater incentive for the Government of China to declare war on M$ and Google and any other US tech corporation.
Do you know what China has to do to kick the USA's arse all over the global map. Offer better free software, with the source code and then sell proprietary games and other apps. Done and finished, MS and Google are as customer abusive as it gets, they are sitting ducks right now and Trump is setting them up as victims of an economic war against China and of course Russia and do no forget India all three will push theirs and use Trump as an excuse to kill competition from US businesses.
The only winners in this game, are us, cool have fun idiots.
Re: In summary (Score:2)
How cute, you actually think the same government that disappeared the people who uploaded Covid data to Github would allow large scale open source projects to exist and be sold by CCP controlled corporations.
Re: In summary (Score:2)
Do you know what China has to do to kick the USA's arse all over the global map. Offer better free software, with the source code
lol
Wake me up when that happens.
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Do you know what China has to do to kick the USA's arse all over the global map
Free or closed IP, China will have to (re)create a lot of stuff they are currently relying on. Such as the app stores of Android and iOS. And developing their own microprocessors so they don't need Intel, AMD, ARM and Qualcomm anymore.
I think the Chinese are now serious about this. Thump made it clear enough to them that they can be cut off from might
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Sorry, hit submit instead if preview...
Trump made it clear enough to the Chinese that they can be cut off from western technology at a whim. It will take them a few years, but I expect that they will see that technological independence effort through.
After that, we may see western and Chinese tech drifting apart, each doing their own thing.
Trump game: Heads I win, tails free trade loses! (Score:2)
Can't tell if you're feeding a troll or toying with a sincere fool, but your comment deserves favorable moderation and has none. It's obvious that part of the trolls' destructive gaming of Slashdot involves moderation abuse, but can they be playing both sides? Not just giving out lots of discussion-busting mods on one hand, but on the other hand somehow preventing you [not just rtb61] from getting the positive moderation you've earned?
However my own response is mixed agreement. I think you are mostly advoca
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We're are own enemy for letting the Communist Chinese getting this far for infiltrating our behemoth social media companies advocating censorship at every level, or for pulling the plug now on companies that let foreign influencers make decisions that don't have America's interests at heart??
Yep.
If it were a smaller, less scary country we'd have invaded it by now and made it a democracy like we did in Vietnam. Those were the days of real leaders in the Whitehouse!
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Maybe it's just me, but...
What's the problem with the Chinese government having access to a billion videos of teenage girls dancing to the Laffy Taffy song? How does that affect national security?
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Stevie Ray and Jimmy Vaughan: Tick tock, tick tock, tick tock people....
The Vaughan Brothers - Tick Tock [youtube.com]
What a corny song.
One night while sleeping in my bed I had a beautiful dream ....
That all the people of the world got together on the same wavelength
And began helping one another
Now in this dream, universal love was the theme of the day
Peace and understanding and it happened this way
People of the world, all had it together
Had it together for the boys and the girls
And the children of the world look forward
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All that came crashing down on August 27, 1990.
Because of Garth Brooks releasing the No Fences album?
I'm kidding. Also I didn't read those lyrics.
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SRV was pretty corny
https://www.youtube.com/watch?... [youtube.com]
I love it.
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Geopolitics and rivality aside, the USA looks every day more as a fascist dictatorship, where the Great Leader gets to choose what its citizens -sorry, its underlings- think, do and use, and less a plural, democratic country where the best option wins by its own merits.
so what? (Score:5, Insightful)
Tencent seems to be a major investor in a variety of tech/gaming companies, but those companies are valuable in the eyes of investors so when one group of investors leaves, another will swoop in. Doesn't seem like China has a lot of leverage here.
And anyways, why are people so much more concerned about what a foreign government knows about them, then their own government, whose jurisdiction they fall under. Americans got a clear view of what their government was doing with the AT&T and Snowden leaks, but somehow, it's China they are more worried about? A country that can't affect them?
China can't arrest you on American soil just because you said Xi looks like Winnie the Pooh. Get your fucking priorities straight.
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Here's the thing though, we live in a free society.
Letting the guy in charge tell everyone what messaging app they can use and therefore who they can talk to is antithetical to our ideals. If our freedoms disappear the moment they becomes inconvenient, then how are we any better than China?
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This is the rule now? POTUS can just decide to block websites and apps if he feels like it?
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Tencent invests when it wants to distribute those games and movies and TV shows in China. If they stop being distributed there it will be a huge financial loss for the Western companies making them.
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I'm not worried that Xi will come to my home and arrest me for calling him Winnie the Pooh, and I'm not worried that Trump will come to my home and arrest me for calling him an orange, baby-handed cheeto man. What I am worried about is a foreign power having a ton of influence and control over what can be said here in the US because of how much of the media they control, which means they have a ton of control and influence over all of our public discourse. This isn't an irrational fear - it's happening dail
For those still stuck in the 1950's Red Scare (Score:5, Insightful)
The NRA sells their list of gun nuts to anyone who wants it. That is valuable information for invasion, which neighborhood requires a surgical missile strike to remove the enemy.
If it can't be bought from Google or Facebook or Experian, these communists have more bored hackers than we do, especially the males. Due to one child policy, there are million of young men with nothing to do but hide in their bedroom in their parents house and hack into commercial databases.
For Government or private firm with sensitive information, they should not use any unsecured service, be it Facebook or Google or Zoom or Tok Tok for any thing to do with sensitive information. That is just common sense. For the common person, it is your choice to tell the world you will be on vacation for a month, or your kid is alone waiting for someone to pick them up at the park at 3:30 every Tuesday, or download a random app that tracks you exercise path precisely every day with times where you are most secluded for attack.
But it is not the communists. It is everyone that is collecting data and not securing it or treating it as a profit center instead of secure information. There was an episode of the Rockford Files was back in the 1970's the explored this. A US group was setting up a centralized database of US citizens. They question was what were the risks involved. Too bad we never really has a debate over that question. It just happened.
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Re:For those still stuck in the 1950's Red Scare (Score:4, Interesting)
The suspicions (well-founded suspicions) against TikTok et al is not merely privacy-violations. They are suspected and credibly accused of being tools of the foreign adversaries, used not so much to collect data (except, maybe, to sell it to help finance the operations), but to manipulate public opinion.
Which manipulations they've been doing since 1960-ies too — spending more money on fostering various "peace" movements [medium.com] in the West, than they gave Ho Chi Min.
I'd very much the services like Mail.ru and Yandex to be added to this list. And Telegram — investigated.
Whether they sell the information or not, police departments simply having the lists of gun-owners will make the data available to any successful invader. "Red Dawn" (the original), I believe, was warning against just such a possibility.
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LOL, you say it as if "manipulating public opinion" isn't what the US is doing. Remember when the US tried to tell us war crimes are good?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... [wikipedia.org]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... [wikipedia.org]
Re: For those still stuck in the 1950's Red Scare (Score:2)
Neither of your links have anything to do with war crimes. Was your comment just a horrible troll, or did you have some kind of point to make?
Re: For those still stuck in the 1950's Red Scare (Score:1)
blah blah blah
Your comment has nothing to do with his links, which were about two different "hearts and minds" campaigns,. Since you haven't commented on the topic at hand, I presume that you agree that his comment had nothing to do with war crimes?
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Yes. We have guns too — and we shoot them at enemies once in a while. Does that mean, we must — just to be fair — allow enemies to shot their guns at us?
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No, shoot all you can. Just don't pretend you're any different from them - you're the same scum.
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Where we prevailed — Japan, South Korea, Western Germany — people became wealthy and free within a generation, maybe two. Where we failed — North Korea, Eastern Germany, Vietnam, Cuba — millions and millions continue to live in dire poverty and under murderous oppression.
Fuck you, asshole.
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Mwahahahaha. You're truly stupid if you believe this crap, and really ignorant about postwar history, too.
Fuck you, asshole.
Fuck me with what, you dickless eunuch?
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Arguing with shills is quite pointless, they're here to repost the talking points and be gone.
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Which manipulations they've been doing since 1960-ies too — spending more money on fostering various "peace" movements in the West, than they gave Ho Chi Min.
Yeah really, man, only those dirty commies want peace and equal rights for everybody.
Re: For those still stuck in the 1950's Red Scare (Score:2)
I think the point of his comment was to show that those dirty commies are misusing people's desire for peace in order to push their own agenda.
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And that agenda was -wait for it - peaceful coexistence. A war, even a cold one, is expensive.
Re: For those still stuck in the 1950's Red Scare (Score:2)
And that agenda was -wait for it - peaceful coexistence
That's adorable. Yes, I'm sure that the nation which was pushing anti-vietnam war sentiment while keeping all of eastern Europe under it's thumb just wanted peaceful coexistence. Just like their funding of Western anti-nuclear sentiments while building up their own nuke stockpiles clearly shows a desire for disarmament.
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Right, also the bomber gap, the missile gap, the mineshaft gap and so on.
Dude, go back to the 1950s where you belong.
Re: For those still stuck in the 1950's Red Scare (Score:1)
I'm not sure what your obsession with gaps is, but I'm fairly certain that I don't belong in the '50s. You, on the other hand, seem to be a throwback to the '30s. Newsflash: communism lost, mainly because it was stupid.
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Peace is achieved through victory. The commies — dirty and otherwise — demanded we achieve it by surrendering.
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Our cause was just. Where we prevailed — Japan, Western Germany, South Korea — people live happy and wealthy lives.
Where we did not — Cuba, North Korea, Vietnam — life is a misery.
Pick your side.
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You fool, had it not been for the US military presence, Europeans would've had GULAGs instead of Disneyland!
Yes. The pocket called "Russia". Eastern European NATO-members [defensenews.com] are bending over backwards to keep US military there, as we're their only hope against the flea-bitten bear.
False.
Partially — the part, where we prevailed is land of milk and honey. W
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Irrelevant and off-topic. We're not discussing America's own information-spreading [foreignpolicy.com] here — only Trump's action against the enemies' attempts at same.
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The suspicions (well-founded suspicions) against TikTok et al is not merely privacy-violations. They are suspected and credibly accused of being tools of the foreign adversaries, used not so much to collect data (except, maybe, to sell it to help finance the operations), but to manipulate public opinion.
I wonder what else manipulates public opinion?
Ads, influencers, TV shows, movies, documentaries (including the made up shit like Ancient Aliens), music, shortly put any wide reaching information out there.
Everybody tries to sway public opinion to their side, whichever that is.
The best weapon against manipulation is called NOT BEING STUPID. A weapon most people unfortunately lack.
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And so the President steps in and cuts off those manipulators he can legally cut off...
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Leaving only himself as the biggest of all.
First steps to dictatorship taken already.
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The suspicions (well-founded suspicions) against TikTok et al is not merely privacy-violations. They are suspected and credibly accused of being tools of the foreign adversaries, used not so much to collect data (except, maybe, to sell it to help finance the operations), but to manipulate public opinion.
So the same thing Facebook is up to? Okay, time to ban Facebook.
Weird that Trump would start with TikTok and WeChat though, considering how much he complains about Facebook and Twitter being biased against him.
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They are American companies, which fact protects them from such bans of American President. Had he really been a Hitler-sympathizing dictator (like FDR [mises.org]), he would've found a way to shut them down.
TikTok is not an American company, so the US Executive can do (almost) what he wants.
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Had he really been a Hitler-sympathizing dictator (like FDR [mises.org])
Nowhere in that Mises piece does it say FDR sympathised with Hitler or describes him as a dictator. In fact the piece says
Roosevelt preserved civil liberties, while the dictators did not.
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Sorry, I meant Mussolini — a different Fascist...
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Sorry, I meant Mussolini — a different Fascist...
Yeah, it's really easy to get Hitler and Mussolini mixed up. Even their names sound alike.
He did say that...in 1933, when much of America and the rest of the world liked Mussolini. That quickly went south two years later when Mussolini invaded Ethiopia, and it was gone entirely when Italy militarily aligned itself with Germany in 1939.
Bu
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Names? Names aren't relevant — their Fascism was quite similar, though, as were their dictatorial traits. Fuhrer-lead glorious Collective above the stupid Individual!
Ah, please, who's ever — in the US or in Europe — cared for Ethiopia?
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Names? Names aren't relevant
Says the guy who says FDR was a fascist dictator and Hitler sympathizer and linked to an article that doesn't support his claim. Oh wait! I meant Mussolini!!! LOL. Sure, pal. Names are irrelevant.
BTW, guess who else praised Mussolini? Winston Churchill. I guess that makes him a fascist sympathiser in your book.
Ah, please, who's ever — in the US or in Europe — cared for Ethiopia?
Western democracies? [wikipedia.org]
Just because you may not care about Ethiopi
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My accusations against FDR stand perfectly well with "Hitler" replaced by "Mussolini". Your objections collapse and crumble. Therefore, my argument is valid and your attempts at rebuttal — aren't.
Roosevelt's civil liberties-record is better than that of the eu
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My accusations against FDR stand perfectly well with "Hitler" replaced by "Mussolini".
I really don't care that much about your accusation that FDR was a dictator, Mussolini-sympathizing or otherwise. Yeah, I think it's a pretty brain-dead thing to say, but what I really posted about was your idiocy in thinking your source backed up your ridiculous claim. Your article simply doesn't support your accusation that FDR was a dictator, period. Furthermore, anyone who confuses Mussolini for Hitler is either intellectually deficient or mentally impaired. Or both.
Your objections collapse and crumble. Therefore, my argument is valid and your attempts at rebuttal — aren't.
HAHAHA! Good one! And thanks.
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Your post is actually hilarious. Do you really think that the US is in danger of being invaded and the only thing protecting it is gun owners?
US conservative conspiracy theories are getting worse, I swear.
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you know the war in Afghanistan has been going on for NINETEEN YEARS because of that, right?
An armed aggressive populace drains invaders dry over time. We will be bleeding our economic capital into Afghanistan until my grandkids have grandkids, and all because the population will _never_ stop taking pot-shots at us.
Re: For those still stuck in the 1950's Red Scare (Score:2)
The US should ban all data about Americans from being transmitted outside the US and impose large fines on violators. Leave people free of course to transmit their own data willingly with full disclosure. If a company wants to do business in America, then locate here. And if a company wants to collect data then detail what they are collecting.
Again (Score:5, Insightful)
Turns out, all they're doing is running scared.
Because they're incompetent losers.
Tired of "winning too much" yet?
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i think he means you shouldn't fall for/spread neither chinese nor us propaganda. which only suits the interests of their respective elites.
meaning you're in the elite yourself with your own agenda, or you're just a gullible fool doing a disservice to humanity.
Re: Again (Score:2)
i think he means you shouldn't fall for/spread neither chinese nor us propaganda.
His comment doesn't even hint at that.
meaning you're in the elite yourself with your own agenda, or you're just a gullible fool doing a disservice to humanity.
This is a blatant personal attack with no bearing on anything that was discussed.
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If we're going to take offense with companies we've been friends with who have human rights abuses, the front of the line should be SAUDI ARABIA. In addition to them recently gratuitously murdering a US journalist, they were the majority of the 9/11 hijackers.
China is way behind them.
So unless the administration is not going to look at facts, China is not high on the enemy list of America.
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If we're going to take offense with companies we've been friends with who have human rights abuses, the front of the line should be SAUDI ARABIA. In addition to them recently gratuitously murdering a US journalist, they were the majority of the 9/11 hijackers.
Saudi Arabia is a shitty dictatorship for sure, but they're also one of the few reliable allies we have in the region. Pragmaticism rules the day. After all we worked with Soviet Russia to defeat the Nazis.
China is way behind them.
So unless the administration is not going to look at facts, China is not high on the enemy list of America.
No serious person could look at the state of the world today and conclude that Saudi Arabia is a bigger threat to US interests than China. In regards to military conflicts:
If Saudi Arabia decided to go to war with the US, it would be over in a week. If China decided to go to war with the US it would l
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China is not the enemy of America, but they are the enemy of democracy. Not because they are going to hurt us directly, but because they run a fairly successful dictatorship. People will look at the incompetent mess in their own governments and will start asking questions like "should we get someone capable in there and actually give them power to fix things?" and "what's the point of voting when nothing ever changes?" And pretty soon they'll be putting their own Stalin-wannabe in their capitol.
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Pretty sure the suspicions of Kaspersky were at least founded on a slightly more sane rationale than the drunken ramblings of a russian expatriate's bar buddies formerly arrested by the Feds for public drunkenness(not an easy feat to accomplish) working for a left wing think tank in DC.
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Nothing solid was found on Tiktok
https://www.forbes.com/sites/r... [forbes.com]
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"Nothing solid was ever found on Trump either"
Are you insinuating he hasn't been cleared of all the bad things you unpatriotic traitor ? Even the AG said he had been cleared!
Are you calling the President and the AG LIARS ?
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That's because outside of spherical horse conditions you can't prove a negative.
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"Nothing solid was ever found on Trump either..."
LOL. What a surprise coming from you.
"...equating absence of evidence with evidence of absence..."
You mean what you just did when you said "on the contrary" with regard to "nothing solid was ever found on Trump"? Not that the article you linked to said "nothing was ever found", but you suggested that it did and literally then claimed that there was evidence of "nothing".
You are as transparent a liar as you are ignorant.
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The Intercept article I linked to speaks for itself — after almost two years of investigation, the special prosecutor found nothing to substantiate an accusation of any "collusion". Not only did Trump not do, no one did. No crime was found to have been committed — by anyone.
Yes, I mean exactly that. Nothing solid on Trump, nothing soli
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Trump is declaring no freedom of speech. (Score:5, Interesting)
If it's not his news, it should not be yours. He's currently showing a willingness to damage mail-in voting in favor of crowding you in with his maskless MAGA hats, risk of contagious disease notwithstanding.
He doesn't care if the people who vote for him die. His time is clearly limited. You will keep the populist demagogue in power. You must!
This screwball orange-faced comb-over apparently has appeal with people who have been screwed over too many times but, he is far from their savior.
Keep imploding, US-America ... (Score:1)
Thanks for doing it in such a hilarious slapstick way. :)
It's almost as if Admiral Benson from Hot Shots is running your country.
No hard feelings. ... done. :D
We'll recover the wasteland when you're
Where is the fucking jurisdiction? (Score:5, Informative)
Can someone explain to me how a US president can arbitrarily decide any company is no longer to allowed to do business in the country?
Do we have checks an balances or WTF?
Re:Where is the fucking jurisdiction? (Score:4, Informative)
Can someone explain to me how a US president can arbitrarily decide any company is no longer to allowed to do business in the country?
I can't explain why the NEA should exist, but the NEA is a 1976 law giving these powers directly to the president, and only excludes 13 special cases still requiring an act of congress.
https://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml?path=/prelim@title50/chapter34&edition=prelim [house.gov]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Emergencies_Act [wikipedia.org]
The categories of "emergency" are vast and encompassing, listed here
https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/research-reports/guide-emergency-powers-and-their-use [brennancenter.org]
It's history of abuse is partially documented here:
1976 through March 13, 2020, 69 emergencies have been declared; 34 have expired and another 35 are currently in effect
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_national_emergencies_in_the_United_States [wikipedia.org]
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I can't explain why the NEA should exist
There are times when it makes sense to have the country move very quickly to deal with some problem. You don't always have the luxury of waiting for congress to come back from vacation to start doing something.
However, history shows that's ripe with potential abuses. So I think a state of emergency should not be allowed to exist for longer than 1 month. After which it should take a vote of congress to extend up to 3 months. To extend it any longer, it needs to be approved by 2/3rds of the states and 2/3rds
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Footloose was right. Tiktok is sending propaganda to US citizens by getting them to post dancing videos. Obviously dancing is the work of the devil. Think of the kids.
Executive orders (Score:3)
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I made my kids uninstall that crap, after my wife had allowed it, months ago. No, I don't like the executive order but fuck tiktok, fuck all social media for that matter.
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fuck all social media for that matter.
You're posting on one now. And we appear to have less censorship than most other social media sites.
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Would you miss this latest incarnation of Slashdot if it went away? I certainly could live without it. Slashdot peaked a long time ago. Honestly, I don't feel like Slashdot influences anyone - most around here seem to stubbornly hold their positions no matter what. You don't hear about Slashdot influencing elections - temporarily overloading web sites (and maybe not so much anymore) and trolls are the worst that Slashdot can offer. The audience for Slashdot is pretty small too.
Teaching an adversary wha
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You're a bit late to the party.
https://www.federalregister.go... [federalregister.gov]
fix it OS/hardware level (Score:2)
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How about going after OS providers (US ones) that allow these companies to collect data?
It's okay when US companies run roughshod all over your privacy. Here, have a mobile OS maintained by an advertising company, some "smart speaker" listening devices sold and maintained by a major online retailer, etc...
It's the same mentality that makes abusing executive power to push an agenda perfectly acceptable, so long as it's your favored political party that is doing it.
crazy (Score:1)
Yeah well thats what happens when you let american companies be the gatekeepers of the internet. Do business with america at your own peril.
I don’t get the uproar about Tik Tok (Score:1)
What’s the “security” concern around videos of teenagers making 30-second dance clips with filters anyway?
That would be foolish, but, I suppose, possible. (Score:1)
If the US starts acting that way, China will just (possibly with the agreement of the WTO) invalidate any patents, trademarks, copyrights, etc. that they need for use within China. That they definitely can do. Whether they could export the works, though, would require the agreement of the WTO...which the US has already declined to support. And China would have a very strong case given the extortionate threats that have already been issued.
Blantant Trade Protectionism (Score:2)
That headline is too long (Score:2)
"Trump blew up" is all we wanted to have, you could have kept the rest.
And this is authorized by ... ? (Score:2)
And this is authorized by ... ?
Subject line reuse.
It'll be useful long after the election, no matter who wins in 2020. And 2022. And 2024. And ...