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India Proposes New Rules To Access Its Citizens' Data (techcrunch.com) 14

India has proposed groundbreaking rules, akin to Europe's GDPR, that would require technology companies to garner consent from citizens before collecting and processing their personal data. But at the same time, the new rules also state that companies would have to hand over "non-personal" data of their users to the government, and New Delhi would also hold the power to collect any data of its citizens without consent to serve sovereignty and larger public interest. From a report: The new rules, proposed in nation's first major data protection law dubbed "Personal Data Protection Bill 2019," a copy of which leaked on Tuesday, would permit New Delhi to "exempt any agency of government from application of Act in the interest of sovereignty and integrity of India, the security of the state, friendly relations with foreign states, public order." If the bill passes select controversial laws drafted more than a decade ago would remain unchanged. The bill might also change how global technology companies that have invested billions of dollars in India, thanks in part to the lax laws, see the nation of more than 600 million internet users.
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  • by jellomizer ( 103300 ) on Wednesday December 11, 2019 @12:55PM (#59508518)

    If you don't collect information that you don't need to offer the service. Then you comply to the law, and if requested for the information obtained you don't have any to share.

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    • by swell ( 195815 )

      And when the government requires you to collect the information ?

      For instance, when government agents install secret spy equipment in central AT&T facilities. The US government has taken every opportunity to spy in its citizens and often employs the aid of companies and organizations. Do you think that China, Russia, Turkey and Middle East governments are not pressuring tech companies to spy on their citizens for them?

      Apple has made quite a show of resisting government in this regard. Mozilla is quieter

  • GDPR and all US laws regarding privacy and data collection excludes the government and such.

  • Everybody is talking about Uighurs and Xinjiang, but somehow India gets a free pass for doing much of the same. Indian government suspended the self-rule of the only Muslim-majority state in India (Kashmir) and is denying citizenship to Muslim population there.

    They have an official policy that grants automatic citizenship to Hindu people but requires documented "proof" from Muslims. And living in the same place for decades is NOT a proof. Oh, and they're building concentration camps for these people.
    • by jma05 ( 897351 )

      This is silly.

      There is no comparison between India and China. China has a strong central authority that can have its way. India does not. Its politics are quite local, although there has been a shift in recent times, it is nowhere close to China.

      No one knows which party will win India's elections, which is a far cry from China. People protest loudly and often in India.

      > denying citizenship to Muslim population there

      They said they would not be granting citizenship to muslim *immigrants*, not residents. It

      • by Cyberax ( 705495 )

        India does not. Its politics are quite local, although there has been a shift in recent times, it is nowhere close to China.

        What part of "suspended Kashmir autonomy, instituted the central rule and put army there" you don't understand?

        They said they would not be granting citizenship to muslim *immigrants*, not residents. Its rationale was that hindu immigrants from its muslim neighbors may be refugees from religious persecution, but muslim immigrants from its muslim neighbors aren't.

        Sure. And Chinese camps are simply vocational training centers. Nothing more. There are already reports of people living for _decades_ who were forced to move out, because an official deemed them "immigrants".

        It is trying to make Kashmir the same as any other Indian state, removing its special status from 70 years ago, a hold-over from the messy partition era.

        Sure, and the army there is just for military parades.

        • by jma05 ( 897351 )

          I agree that Kashmir is a very messy affair. Drawing any parallel isn't going to be easy.

          The army has always been there and it was always made clear it was there to preserve the territory. There was no double talk. India fought 3 wars over it with Pakistan, which still lays claim to it. And you can bet the army won't be going away soon.

          If any state in US wants to secede and takes overt action (not just Texas dinner talk) or if Mexico demands the old territories back with actual show of military force, you c

          • by Cyberax ( 705495 )

            I agree that Kashmir is a very messy affair. Drawing any parallel isn't going to be easy.

            There is no difference there whatsoever. Both countries decided that a certain ethnicity should not exist anymore and are doing everything to exterminate it. Even the methods are similar.

            India is not re-educating detainees to not be muslims.

            That will be coming. It's already starting, slowly.

            You calling it concentration camps is silly. The detainees can leave for their country of legal home any time

            Except for "detained" protestors, tribal leaders and residents who were deemed to be "immigrants".

            • by jma05 ( 897351 )

              Muslim isn't an ethnicity. Even Bengali isn't a foreign culture to India and is celebrated.
              The issue is dealing with low-skilled economic immigration, same as US is dealing with.
              Unlike US, India does not have "jobs that Indians will not take".

              Reasonable people can disagree on enforcing illegal immigration laws. But to call that "extermination" is absurd. India and Bangladesh some time ago amiably exchanged territories.

              Indian law enforcement is very imperfect, much worse than US. That cuts across all develop

            • by jma05 ( 897351 )

              I would add though that Indian government should have at least added an Ahmadiyya muslim exception clause though since they are persecuted in Pakistan and Bangladesh. They do qualify as refugees and not economic migrants.

              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... [wikipedia.org]

            • by jma05 ( 897351 )

              Since you are so interested in ethnic cleansing, you should focus on actual ethnic cleansing that happened in the very Kashmir rather than imagine hyperbolic hypotheticals for the future.

              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... [wikipedia.org]

              Only 0.5% of Kashmiri Pandits now remain. The rest 99.5% have been *cleansed*.

              Wikipedia Summary
              Goals: Islamisation, ethnic cleansing, independence from India, merger with Pakistan, Sharia law
              Methods: Rape, targeted killing, murder, threats, kidnapping

              Comprehensive ethnic cleansing already ha

    • In fact the situation is exactly the opposite:
      Some/many/most Kashmiris want to be independent or go to Pakistan but the Indian government wants to keep them Indian. So some/many/most Kashmiris want to be DENIED citizenship and the Indian Government WANTS them to keep it.
      Self-rule was just bullshit - Jammu and Kashmir was being treated as a special state and now it is treated as a regular Indian state.

      W.r.t the automatic citizenship to Hindus - the current government just passed a law that allows automatic c

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