AI Pioneer Accused of Having Sex With Trafficking Victim On Jeffrey Epstein's Island (theverge.com) 273
A victim of billionaire Jeffrey Epstein testified that she was forced to have sex with MIT professor Marvin Minsky, as revealed in a newly unsealed deposition. The Verge reports: Minsky, who died in 2016, was known as an associate of Epstein, but this is the first direct accusation implicating the AI pioneer in Epstein's broader sex trafficking network. The deposition also names Prince Andrew of Britain and former New Mexico governor Bill Richardson, among others. The accusation against Minsky was made by Virginia Giuffre, who was deposed in May 2016 as part of a broader defamation suit between her and an Epstein associate named Ghislaine Maxwell. In the deposition, Giuffre says she was directed to have sex with Minsky when he visited Epstein's compound in the U.S. Virgin Islands. As part of the defamation suit, Maxwell's counsel denied the allegations, calling them "salacious and improper." Representatives for Giuffre and Maxwell did not immediately respond to a request for comment.
A pivotal member of MIT's Artificial Intelligence Lab, Marvin Minsky pioneered the first generation of self-training algorithms, establishing the concept of artificial neural networks in his 1969 book Perceptrons. He also developed the first head-mounted display, a precursor to modern VR and augmented reality systems. Minsky was one of a number of prominent scientists with ties to Jeffrey Epstein, who often called himself a "science philanthropist" and donated to research projects and academic institutions. Minsky's affiliation with Epstein went particularly deep, including organizing a two-day symposium on artificial intelligence at Epstein's private island in 2002, as reported by Slate. In 2012, the Jeffrey Epstein Foundation issued a press release touting another conference organized by Minsky on the island in December 2011.
UPDATE (8/10/2019): Jeffrey Epstein "died by suicide early Saturday in his Lower Manhattan prison cell, three law enforcement officials told ABC News."
A pivotal member of MIT's Artificial Intelligence Lab, Marvin Minsky pioneered the first generation of self-training algorithms, establishing the concept of artificial neural networks in his 1969 book Perceptrons. He also developed the first head-mounted display, a precursor to modern VR and augmented reality systems. Minsky was one of a number of prominent scientists with ties to Jeffrey Epstein, who often called himself a "science philanthropist" and donated to research projects and academic institutions. Minsky's affiliation with Epstein went particularly deep, including organizing a two-day symposium on artificial intelligence at Epstein's private island in 2002, as reported by Slate. In 2012, the Jeffrey Epstein Foundation issued a press release touting another conference organized by Minsky on the island in December 2011.
UPDATE (8/10/2019): Jeffrey Epstein "died by suicide early Saturday in his Lower Manhattan prison cell, three law enforcement officials told ABC News."
That black book is a bitch (Score:5, Interesting)
I have a feeling we are going to hear a lot more names we are familiar with before this is over.
Re:That black book is a bitch (Score:5, Interesting)
Likely two US Presidents. It seems doubtful, given their association, that an offer wasn't made. Given their past behavior, if an offer was made, it seems doubtful they declined.
If true it's a hell of a blackmail leverage, wonder if that leverage was ever exercised. or how often.
Re:That black book is a bitch (Score:5, Insightful)
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Re:That black book is a bitch (Score:4, Informative)
Interesting, Paul Allen's on page 1. His name is misspelled but the 206 area code and vulcan.com email address are unambiguous.
Tony Blair on page 6, Edgar Bronfman on page 8, Jason Calacanis and Naomi Campbell on page 9, John Cleese, Phil Collins, Steve Forbes, David Frost, Dustin Hoffman, Michael Jackson (well, duh), Mick Jagger, more lords and ladies and Kennedies than you can shake a stick at...
While interesting at first, I don't think this black book proves anything other than starfuckery on Epstein's part.
Re:That black book is a bitch (Score:5, Insightful)
It's not meant to prove anything, but it does provide a list of suspect people. Not all of them are pedos, but it's pretty likely and pedos we do hear about will be on the list.
I think we should be very careful casually throwing around statements like this. Saying that it's pretty likely that an associate of someone who is an accused pedophile is themselves a pedophile without any other evidence is misguided at best. Let's see where the evidence leads.
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Let's see where the evidence leads.
Well we are not going to see. Somehow Epsine on suicide watch already and after a not-guilty plea managed to commit "suicide" in a 4x9 cell. With marks on his neck that "appear" self inflicted
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The watch failed. His ass committed suicide this morning.
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"Not all of them are pedos, but it's pretty likely and pedos we do hear about will be on the list."
Maybe you have difficulty writing clearly? You said precisely what the GP warned against and you denied.
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So many words. So much justification. I don't know whether you misspoke or meant what you said and are furiously back peddling now, but your statement was simple and clear, unlike everything that came after.
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"Not all of them are pedos, but it's pretty likely and pedos we do hear about will be on the list."
Maybe you have difficulty writing clearly? You said precisely what the GP warned against and you denied.
Since you made the same mistake maybe I'll spell it out even more clearly. That is what I said. This is what nite hawk said [...cut...]
@burtosis, instead of repeatedly defending yourself, acknowledge that you made a typo which caused this confusion. Presumably you meant to say "Not all of them are pedos, but it's pretty likely ***any*** pedos we do hear about will be on the list." I don't think many would disagree with that statement. Doubtful Epstein has two different address books for pedos and non-pedos.
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It was simple and clear yes. Due to the evidence now in the FBIs possession, "any pedos we hear about will likely be on that list." There was no back pedaling, nite hawk accused me of saying that associates of his are likely pedos which is not the same thing.
I'm puzzled as to how you can write, and presumably reread, "Not all of them are pedos, but it's pretty likely..." and continue to insist you didn't suggest that "it's pretty likely that an associate of someone who is an accused pedophile is themselves a pedophile".
The fact you also stated that " and pedos we do hear about will be on the list" does not take away from the fact that you also wrote the first half of that sentence.
*Ding Ding* In rereading this post prior to hitting submit I think I've spotted t
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If you want some fun, check out page 79 [documentcloud.org].
Well now, isn't that interesting? Must be a coincidence or something.
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You're giving Clinton too much credit (Score:5, Interesting)
But he didn't sell us out because anyone had dirt on him. He sold us out because he's a rat.
Now, where Clinton comes out ahead of Trump is we know, from campaign contributions, exactly who he sold us out to. With Trump there's still some serious questions about that.
Re:You're giving Clinton too much credit (Score:5, Funny)
Now, where Clinton comes out ahead of Trump is we know, from campaign contributions, exactly who he sold us out to. With Trump there's still some serious questions about that.
Oh please... Trump was a billionaire before he started his campaign. Who's going to be able to buy a guy who already has more money than you can shake a stick at?
Nobody can control Trump. Epstein was tried and let go with nary a wrist-slap under previous administrations, but not this time. Everybody connected with the Epstein scandal has been out to undermine Trump ever since Trump won the presidency because they're scared. They're trying to distance themselves from Epstein. They're trying to move to places without US extradition. They're trying to smear Trump in all the mainstream media. It's not working, and Trump's administration is going to blow this Epstein thing wide open!
Re:You're giving Clinton too much credit (Score:4, Informative)
> Who's going to be able to buy a guy who already has more money than you can shake a stick at?
Besides his creditors? Donald Trump has bankrupted himself repeatedly.
Re:You're giving Clinton too much credit (Score:5, Funny)
As in, nearly once?
He's never bankrupted himself, just six of his businesses.
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I appreciate the legal distinction. But it still leaves creditors with moral, and some legal, power over him.
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He's never actually declared bankruptcy personally, but his finances have probably been underwater repeatedly, given that his legitimate businesses have been unprofitable. His profits come from scams and cons like Trump University. The most obvious reason to hide his tax returns is to prevent people from knowing that he was in debt when he took office, to an extent exceeding his assets. He's made hundreds of millions of dollars taking golf trips though, since he is paying himself (in the form of mar-a-lago)
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In the 1990 the Trump Organization owed $9 billion and Trump's personal owed $975 million to various banks.
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Re:You're giving Clinton too much credit (Score:4, Informative)
Clinton ended up winning not necessarily because he attracted a chunk of GOP voters, but because of a weak economy [wikipedia.org], and the Democrats who controlled the House and Senate refused to pass a budget without a tax increase, then managed to dump the blame for it onto Bush for reneging on his "no new taxes" pledge. If you scroll down on that approval rating link, you'll see that Bush's approval rating peaked at over 80% right after the war, and was at 60%+ in late 1991 when candidates were throwing their hats in for the 1992 election. By mid-1992 shortly before the election, his approval rating had dropped to nearly 30%.
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Honestly he swung right with the Third Way type of campaign because American leftists had proven time and time again they were completely incompetent at winning national elections.
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Pfft easier to just offer some weak idiot to have their name put on a building in a city.
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Yep. The TDS crowd should pay attention to the fact that the victim was recruited out of Mar-a-Lago. There's fire behind that smoke.
Their problem is that Clinton was a frequent guest as well, and it would be heresy to take him down.
My guess is that their hatred eventually grows strong enough to throw Clinton under the bus. Plot twist, though: Trump pardons himself.
Re:That black book is a bitch (Score:5, Interesting)
Court records also report Trump banned Epstein from his Maralago Club because Epstein sexually assaulted a girl at the club. The released court records also say Trump never has sex with the women.
Trump wont pardon Epstein.
Hate Trump all you want, but dont spread lies.
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Trump wont pardon Epstein.
Only God can pardon Epstein now.
Re: That black book is a bitch (Score:2, Informative)
Re: That black book is a bitch (Score:4, Insightful)
President had six with at least one intern, in the oval office. and the Democrat party voted for him and for his wife who enabled his long-term sexually harassing behavior towards his staff. I'm afraid most Democrats will publicly ignore such issues, and only condemn them privately.
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Re: That black book is a bitch (Score:5, Informative)
While Bill Clinton was impeached, he was not convicted. He was acquitted of the necessary "high crimes" due to lack of evidence. There was no question that he had a lengthy sexual relationship with an intern, a direct employee of far less age, power, and status who reported directly to him. Bill Clinton lost his law license for getting Moniica Lewinsky to lie for him in the Paula Jones case, where she denied that relationship under oath.
The impeachment was not completed because he was not convicted. He continued to receive strong Democratic support: the Democratic party treated him much as Hillary Clinton did, by continuing to support him politically and publicly even if they were embarrassed by his personal sexual activities.
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If Bill ran today there's no way he would get the party's nomination, yet Trump does despite the identical character flaw.
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I think you're confused
Nope, not confused at all. The picture showing the kids in the cages dates back to 2014, during the Obama admin. The executive order that Trump signed is also public record. You can go look this stuff up.
Truth is truth no matter how bad the troll mods want to hide it.
Re: That black book is a bitch (Score:5, Informative)
No, he was acquitted because the Senate voted strictly along party lines to acquit.
Or are you too young to recall the phrases "blue dress" and "biological residue"?
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No, he was acquitted because the Senate voted strictly along party lines to acquit.
Or are you too young to recall the phrases "blue dress" and "biological residue"?
Is this all deflection? We have a problem in this country, where there is no bar to go over - there is no bar to go under. There is no bar.
It's a real hoot to be discussing a consensual blowjob between consenting adults that happened almost 30 years ago, while dismissing hush money paid to porn stars while your wife is pregnant at home.
And most amusing that the party of the moral high ground took that bar, crushed it, melted it, vaporized it with lasers, and sent it careening into the sun to make certa
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This might actually be a weakness for the Democrats: they have at least some principles, which often causes them to commit self-harm, whereas the Republicans have no principles at all, which allows them to be much more ruthless.
Re: That black book is a bitch (Score:2)
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Likely two US Presidents.
The accuser says she met Trump, but he did not act inappropriately with her, and she did not have sex with him.
Trump appears to be attracted to adult women, and doesn't seem to have any specific attraction to underage women. So why would he risk it?
She has also made no allegations against Bill Clinton, although there are records of him visiting the island. Bill Clinton also has no known history of being specifically attracted to underage women.
The allegations against Prince Andrew are much more substantia
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Bill Clinton also has no known history of being specifically attracted to underage women.
He does have a history with young women close to the same age as his daughter, who are subordinates in his organization.
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Trump appears to be attracted to adult women, and doesn't seem to have any specific attraction to underage women. So why would he risk it?
“Veal is a very young beef and, like a very young girlfriend, it's cute but boring and expensive.” P.J. O'Rourke
Please note . . . Trump's favorite food is steak . . . with ketchup. Definitely not veal.
I can't remember or find the quote exactly, but I think O'Rourke said that, given time, veal will develop itself into a steak.
Re:That black book is a bitch (Score:5, Informative)
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Re:That black book is a bitch (Score:4, Insightful)
Okay, but the age of consent is 18, so playing cigars with Lewinsky at age 21/22 was not against the law per se.
Bill Clinton's opponents tried to impeach him when the Lewinsky scandal came out, but nothing stuck hard enough. Bill Clinton even had the nerve to get on TV and outright lie to the entire nation: "I did not have sexual relations with that woman." Yet nobody could take him down even with that huge lie right out there for all to see.
Here's to hoping the whole Epstein investigation yields better results, finally putting an end to sex trafficking and the whole blackmail problem throughout our gov't/elite.
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She was legal, and she pursued him.
I could say the same thing about all the women that slept with Harvey Weinstein.
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She was legal, and she pursued him.
I could say the same thing about all the women that slept with Harvey Weinstein.
You are not wrong. Weinstein's women had a more defined goal however. Not certain what Lewinsky's was, although her "friend" Linda Tripp apparently offered much encouragement to her pursuit.
I think when we talk about consenting adults and heterosexual sex, we sometimes forget that there is a male, and a female. Lewinsky didn't have to give a blowjob to Slick Willy, and the ladies had sex with disgusting sleaze Weinstein for a reason.
And as it turns out, some of the shakers and movers of #metoo, like As
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Well, when the word on Epstein first hit the news, one of the Democrats basically said it would be hitting both sides of the aisle and that people needed to be ready to condemn it whether ally or opponent.
Of course, when I read that my interpretation was - as typically happens, this was apparently an open "secret" amongst the people in power. So lots of people knew it was going on, but the guy was rich so no one stopped him.
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Likely two US Presidents. It seems doubtful, given their association, that an offer wasn't made. Given their past behavior, if an offer was made, it seems doubtful they declined.
If true it's a hell of a blackmail leverage, wonder if that leverage was ever exercised. or how often.
Eh? What's that? I thought only "right wing extremists" could believe there was anything wrong with a US President flying about with Epstein ...
Re:That black book is a bitch (Score:5, Insightful)
I have a feeling we are going to hear a lot more names we are familiar with before this is over.
There was a time when I'd completely agree with you.
Sadly as I've aged I have come to realize that money and position often overrule truth and justice.
Maybe more names. Maybe truth. But little justice. I'm guessing.
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A bunch of democrats and 2 British prince's have been named in the unsealed documents so far
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So sexually mature girls were treated to a lavish lifestyle as part of a completely consensual agreement which also involved sex and money?
I mean some of it was technically illegal due to old puritanical laws in certain jurisdictions but certainly nothing morally or ethically wrong that I can see. Why are people making such a big deal out of it?
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Nah, there's nothing wrong with coercing, pressuring, groping, sniffing, and kissing young girls... Seriously, just ask Creepy Uncle Joe Biden. [youtube.com]
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Agreed 12-13 is pushing it. It might be that there is better information than I found with a quick search on what they are talking about which indicated 15-16 for at least this particular girl. It's hard to say without being there. I'm skeptical of the idea that a pack of 16yr old girls in a billionaire's private entourage didn't know exactly what 'massage' was code for and I'm certain the people paying for massages knew exactly what it was code for.
Groping/etc depends on context. In normal circumstances co
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So sexually mature girls were treated to a lavish lifestyle as part of a completely consensual agreement which also involved sex and money?
I mean some of it was technically illegal due to old puritanical laws in certain jurisdictions but certainly nothing morally or ethically wrong that I can see. Why are people making such a big deal out of it?
And we made it here, finally, the vindicationn and exhoneration.
Wester civilization has extended childhoood well beyond sexual maturity. Being that humans will accept being a child as long as they can. Sexual maturity is no longer the metric. Indeed, some SJW's and even some conservative kooks are trying to extend childhood into the 30's.
But there law just happens to be the law, shaitan. It is really difficult to keep sexually mature, by law, children from engaging in sex with each other, but as adult
Mind-body Problem (Score:2)
Doing it wrong right to the end. [owl232.net]
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Why do people think mind/body problem is a problem anyway ?
The mind is a process.
Just like erosion isn't a physical thing, but it's state of physical things over time, the mind is the same.
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That is your personal belief. There is about as much evidence for it (namely zero) as for the other models. The question is completely open.
I've been dreading this moment (Score:3)
Minsky developed the NN? (Score:5, Interesting)
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While I never really looked into his work (there was never any interesting enough in it), this is about what I expect. That guy had not clue about his chosen field of research. They probably kept him on for the press exposure.
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Erhm... sorry dude. Nice troll, but OP is correct here. /shrug try harder next time?
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Bullshit. MIT has always been mentioned alongside Carnegie Mellon as leaders in the industry. LISP Machines were created there and the number of advancements that came out of MIT AI and Media labs is a who's who list. Seriously, go fuck yourself with your attempt to sound like you have a clue you fucking hipster millennial tech douche wannabe.
I'm in my 40's. Went to CMU and studied AI there. Don't double down on wrong...
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I'm saying is that a fast and large address space GUI workstation for running LISP is not "AI", but a tool for AI, allowing for example programs that needed more than the 256K of 36 bit words PDP-10s were limited to.
I can't supply examples because I'm a hard science type who, for the record, isn't jealous in that domain because I indeed got admitted to MIT and can, for example, list advances from MIT's biology department made by one of my faculty advisers [wikipedia.org]. My relevant computer role during the early 1980s w
List of names? Done. (Score:3)
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WTF - this article is wrong on so many levels (Score:5, Interesting)
Sorry, this is a bit of a personal rant from an old guy...
Marvin Minsky did not develop the Perceptron or anything resembling Neural Networks. He distorted and twisted the ideas of others for personal gain. Instead the real honor falls to Frank Rosenblatt (1958), and the pioneers before him, Mculloch & Pitts (1943). Marvin Minsky was one of the few fraudulent MIT professors to be caught and called out by DARPA and forced to re-pay millions in grants that developed nothing but deceptively worded fluff publications. In that scandal, Minksy's closest associate was fired from MIT, but Minksy had garnered enough fame by then that firing him was seen as even more damaging to the reputation of MIT than keeping him. Instead, he was deposed to the Icon Media lab, where he was 'kept' in relative isolation.
Minksy was a pervert in high school. He demonstrated a willingness to use women as objects when he was a young man, resulting in a life-long feud beween Minksy and Rosenblatt when one of Minsky's victims turned out to be a friend of Rosenblatt's. This is highly summarized.
Ever since, Minsky did his best to destroy Rosenblatt. Minsky published a critique of Perceptrons in a way that was more than an attack on the idea, he used it as an attack to damage Rosenblatt personally as much as possible. As a result, Rosenblatt fell into a state of depression and took his own life.
Just a few years later Rosenblatt's Perceptrons were enhanced with the concept of a sigmoid function, leading to the explosive growth of today's modern neural networks.
Minksy and his 'associates' have done much over the years to hide Minsky's sordid past and protect his reputation.
It's time the world learns the truth about all psychopathic savants like Minsky and Epstein. Such people should never receive such hero worship or be allowed to become such free ranging monsters.
https://towardsdatascience.com... [towardsdatascience.com]
http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/v... [psu.edu]
Re:WTF - this article is wrong on so many levels (Score:5, Informative)
Just a few years later Rosenblatt's Perceptrons were enhanced with the concept of a sigmoid function, leading to the explosive growth of today's modern neural networks.
You are leaving out an important step (or two), Backpropagation [wikipedia.org] which was developed by many researchers together. There is also the advancements by those that figured out how to make NNs work on GPUs which was obviously also important. There were even more people involved in doing that.
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Great addition, thank you. I actually made some attempt to not be overly verbose, thus many details were glossed over. Those that know the basic theory of NN know there can be no error backprop without a continuously differentiable function like the sigmoid (which perceptrons lacked)... but I was trying to emphasis the 'who did what' aspect of neural networks over the theory.
The short of it all is that Minsky was a very intelligent scoundrel, just like Epstein. It's no big surprise that they 'partied' to
The Perceptrons Book was well regarded (Score:2)
It absolutely did prove that Rosenblatt's neurons could never represent anything complex. There may have been private vendettas, but the science was good.
Then along came the Sigmoid functions and the rest is history.
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Minsky's famous book, that led to the first "AI winter" criticized "perceptrons" for not being able to learn functions even as simple as XOR. At the time of writing, Minksy was well aware that two-layer perceptrons could learn XOR with no problems (and indeed can learn any function).
I wouldn't say the use of sigmoid activation functions lead to modern neural networks. The use of nonlinear activation functions (like the sigmoid) lets NNs learn nonlinear functions, but the sigmoid itself placed limitations on
Evidence vs Accusation. (Score:2, Informative)
This is getting old, if the crime was so serious why wasn't evidence gathered at the time, or shortly after, or a year, two years after. Accusing someone and destroying their reputation and career a decade or so later is yet another example of the shameless shaming of men. Worse it's a posthumous accusation that is taken out on the man's family using barratry.
Looking to the deposition:
Since the CVRA joinder motion, there has emerged a substantial amount of evidence — some from plaintiff’s ow
Re:Evidence vs Accusation. (Score:5, Insightful)
What is getting old is how easy it is for some to ignore the difficulty, trauma, and shame that a young woman must endure after having been raped and enslaved.
There are still too many people in this world who think it's OK to force a woman to give birth to a child they do not want, while living in a society drenched in sexual exploitation at every level. Descendant of black slaves in the US have been able to vote longer than women.
From what I read even Ms Menninger and the rest of the judiciary are having a hard time believing anything she says...
If that were the case then Epstein would be out walking around on bail until his trial.
These are the types of girls that ridicule other girls who study hard and try to make something of themselves, the female equivalent of the jocks that beat up the nerdy guys at school. These are the popular people who turn out to be losers in life because they want to be 'cool'.
She knew exactly what she was doing then and now she is playing the victim to try to make a buck by jumping on the shaming bandwagon.
Wow. Just wow. I pity any woman in your life. Your sentiment above is exactly why poor and vulnerable young women end up being someone's sex slave.
There is no way any 16 year old girl can know what she is doing or getting in to when she is lured into a private jet, surrounded by opulence, and 'convinced' to perform. Epstein, on the other hand, knew exactly what he was doing, which is why he went through great lengths to create secluded places to engage in his illegal activities. He could have simply walked into a brothel in Nevada or Amsterdam, but apparently that didn't offer him the power trip and pedophile experience that psychopaths like him seem to crave.
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What is getting old is how easy it is for some to ignore the difficulty, trauma, and shame that a young woman must endure after having been raped and enslaved.
The word 'raped' isn't in the deposition, which you clearly haven't read. If a crime has been committed collect and present the evidence to a court of law. I'm always suspicious of people who revert to emotional pleas that contain no fact and have consequences that destroy peoples lives.
There are still too many people in this world who think it's OK to force a woman to give birth to a child they do not want, while living in a society drenched in sexual exploitation at every level. Descendant of black slaves in the US have been able to vote longer than women.
When did this become a discussion about reproductive rights. Get a grip, no wonder you're having issues with being objective.
From what I read even Ms Menninger and the rest of the judiciary are having a hard time believing anything she says...
If that were the case then Epstein would be out walking around on bail until his trial.
This is about Minsky. At least *try* to stay on-topic.
These are the types of girls that ridicule other girls who study hard and try to make something of themselves, the female equivalent of the jocks that beat up the nerdy guys at school. These are the popular people who turn out to be losers in life because they want to be 'cool'.
She knew exactly what she was doing then and now she is playing the victim to try to make a buck by jumping on the shaming bandwagon.
Wow. Just wow. I pity any woman in your life.
Why? It's the women in my life that first
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This is getting old, if the crime was so serious why wasn't evidence gathered at the time, or shortly after, or a year, two years after.
Who will you believe?
The evidence.
Freedom of speech is a principle that supports the freedom of an individual or a community to articulate their opinions and ideas without fear of retaliation, censorship, or legal sanction
Funny how things work different in real world, isn't it?
First, those aren't my words and I wouldn't phase free speech that way. I would say "Free speech is a responsibility that when used wisely allows truth to correct society".
Everyone can have an opinion. As soon as you make an allegation to the legal system without any evidence to assert it you are abusing your responsibilities to free speech. It is a true observation that free speech is sometimes abused and the barratry we see he certainly seems to be evidence of that.
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This is getting old, if the crime was so serious why wasn't evidence gathered at the time, or shortly after, or a year, two years after.
Because Epstein bribed his way into a plea deal.
That doesn't explain why she "burned" the evidence she says she collected and essentially you're saying Minsky is guilty by association because she says so and he can't defend himself.
At any time she could have said "No" and never stepped onto a private jet flying to a private island again. No one knows what happened, all we know is what she claims to have happened in her pursuit of damages from Maxwell. Meanwhile, Minsky, the peace of mind of his family and, his reputation are all collateral damage
High Intelligence Does Not Mean Ethical Behavior (Score:2)
A report [technologyreview.com] by Technology Review states, "Remarkably, while at Harvard in 1956, [Marvin Minsky] also invented the confocal scanning microscope, an instrument that is still widely used today in medical and scientific research."
Minsky was a genius.
Many people are shocked that Minsky was having sex with under-aged girls even though he had such a brilliant mind.
Too often, people associate moral behavior with high intelligence. This association is false. High intelligence does not necessarily produce moral behavi
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High intelligence does not necessarily produce moral behavior.
Sometimes high intelligence produces a sense of privilege.
So the one making the news... (Score:2)
Prove it (Score:2)
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/0... [nytimes.com]
Very similar feel to the case - no solid time lines, famous people accused, long time ago, word against word, conspiracy theories etc.
Now that case above was a man making the accusations but the idea that women never lie about these things is dead in the water too (not that it ever lived):
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-... [bbc.co.uk]
It's easy to pull at people's emotions by going on about how hard it is for a woman to come forward about rape and abuse - and it is - but that doesn't chan
Sad truth (Score:3)
Somewhere between 1~12% of humans are sexually attracted to children...the pedophiles we know about are just the tip of the iceberg. Our society needs to find a healthier way of handling them that allows them to out themselves without being unfairly discriminated against, it would be better and safer for everyone.
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without being unfairly discriminated against
Define discriminate. I can have sex with people that I am attracted to. But that's because someone like Lisa Ann floats my boat. Someone for whom an under aged person turns them on? Sorry. We will discriminate. It's possible that chemical castration, with periodic checkups to ensure ongoing efficacy could allow them to live normal lives in all other aspects. But as far as the sex part is concerned, Nope. Not gonna happen.
Go ahead and call that discrimination. I don't care.
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My, my, how convenient! (Score:3)
Talk about having the wrong kinds of enemies. I, too, am quite skeptical.
My theory is that Epstein had lots of recordings, probably both audio and video, or people in high places behaving in low ways. Hard to be sure what happened, but I know what evidence to watch for next. Mysterious and "spontaneous" fires at all of his houses and the sudden discovery that all of his fireproof safes weren't.
Epstein is gone (Score:5, Insightful)
How convenient then, that Epstein was able to commit suicide today in his cell (in a hold under a 24 hour watch, just a week after a failed previous attempt).
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In this case, something entirely different. Epstein and his amoral crew were more into the MKULTRA craziness, yeah, all about fucking with people's minds. You do want to be alone with those people and eat or drink anything, thirsty, bring a flask, otherwise you can end up doing something quite bad and be convinced you wanted to do it. Why wait for people with corrupt morales when you can do it in minutes with the right application of modern technology and drugs. All scientist who touched Epstein or were tou
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In this case, something entirely different. Epstein and his amoral crew were more into the MKULTRA craziness, yeah, all about fucking with people's minds. You do want to be alone with those people and eat or drink anything, thirsty, bring a flask, otherwise you can end up doing something quite bad and be convinced you wanted to do it. Why wait for people with corrupt morales when you can do it in minutes with the right application of modern technology and drugs. All scientist who touched Epstein or were touched by Epstein should be investigated, want the real dirt, that is where to go.
"The question isn't whether you are paranoid, it's whether you are paranoid enough."
2 points to whoever knows that quote without looking it up.
Oh hell i can't mod chats I post in, and I can't tell if you looked it up.
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It didn't sound quite right, so I did have to look. From Max Peltier, in "Strange Days".
> The issue's not whether you're paranoid, Lenny, I mean look at this shit, the issue is whether you're paranoid enough.
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Yes! My mind is not a computer :/
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You might want to learn more about Marvin Minsky, because your criticism of him makes no sense. He was the most prominent critic of neural networks, and his book Perceptrons [mit.edu] debunked much of the early hype and contributed to the first AI Winter [wikipedia.org].
Artificial insemination (Score:2)
The old meaning of AI
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Meh. Machine learning != AI
You are correct! But I think programs that can rewrite their own code might be a little closer.
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Machine learning is literally not AI.
Fixed that for you. A neural net is literally just a bunch of linear functions. Training is nothing more than fitting those linear functions to data. There’s literally nothing intelligent about it. It’s also the reason why machine learning models can only okay for interpolation. You cannot use them for extrapolation since most data doesn’t exhibit linear scaling. Machine learning models are literally just connected linear fits and in no way represent the true model.
AI is a field where we ASPIRE to build intelligence similar to human intelligence. Its a research field.
From it there have been great advances in computer vision, machine translation, speech recognition and other fields. If you had any exposure to early speech recognition systems you'd know just how far advanced modern systems like Siri, Alexa and others have become. Finally speech interfaces have become a reality. Just because its now ubiquitous, doesn't mean it isn't an amazing advancement in the field.
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You aspire to build intelligence, really? Because nowadays the field seems largely content making classifiers. MLPs will never be useful for abstract reasoning, they should never have been counted as an ANN.
Just think up a new name for the field of designing classifiers for mass surveillance and advertising and let the term AI be less of a bad joke. The symbolic efforts might have been a failure, but at least they tried ... Deep Learning is giving up.