US Treasury Sanctions 16 Russians For Hacking, Election Meddling (engadget.com) 129
An anonymous reader quotes a report from Engadget: The Treasury Department has leveled sanctions against 16 current and former GRU intelligence officers (some of whom were targeted in earlier indictments) for their involvement in multiple campaigns against the U.S., including the Democratic National Committee hacks, World Anti-Doping Agency hacks and election meddling efforts. The targets include Elena Khusyaynova, the primary accountant for the Project Lakhta influence campaign that included the Internet Research Agency. The sanctions also target associated entities like the Federal News Agency.
As with the indictments, the sanctions will only have a limited effect. The measure blocks all property and interests from these people that might be in U.S. jurisdictions, and Americans are "generally prohibited" from conducting transactions with them. The targets live in Russia, though, and it's doubtful that they'll travel to countries where the sanctions will hit them. This is more a symbolic gesture than one intended to curb Russian hacks and manipulation attempts.
As with the indictments, the sanctions will only have a limited effect. The measure blocks all property and interests from these people that might be in U.S. jurisdictions, and Americans are "generally prohibited" from conducting transactions with them. The targets live in Russia, though, and it's doubtful that they'll travel to countries where the sanctions will hit them. This is more a symbolic gesture than one intended to curb Russian hacks and manipulation attempts.
More than just the USA (Score:4, Interesting)
Thing is that the sanctions mean that most Western banks are prohibited from providing them with services because they are also present in the USA. That's a lot more problematic.
Further plenty of countries will be happy to arrest them pending extradition to the USA, including pretty much the entire EU amount others. They will also be unable to get diplomatic passports for pretty much anywhere now, and if Russia issues false identities to get them diplomatic passports they are invalid and that diplomatic immunity is out the window.
For reference just ask Meng Wanzhou how that is working out for her...
Basically if they ever want to step outside Russia they need to be very very careful where they go.
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Thing is that the sanctions mean that most Western banks are prohibited from providing them with services because they are also present in the USA. That's a lot more problematic.
It simply means that free, independent nations will increasingly make their own arrangements, cutting out the US-controlled banks and institutions entirely. This is already well under way in Russia, China and Iran - and a lot of other countries can see which way the wind is blowing.
If someone potentially hostile is holding your testicles, it is wise to take steps to change the situation. Perhaps by getting someone else to deal the aggressor a smart blow to the head, or - all else failing - by grabbing his n
Remember when Michael Flynn started Lock Her Up? (Score:3)
So let's apply the same legal standards to Hillary (Score:1, Insightful)
Flynn: no lawyers in his multiple FBI interviews
Hillary!: nine lawyers in her one FBI interview, no notes by FBI allowed
Flynn: failed to register as a foreign agent while he was a private citizen
Hillary!: made millions via Clinton Foundation from Russia while she was Secretary of State approving Uranium One deal. [nytimes.com]
Flynn: going to jail
Hillary!: Free despite setting up a private email server, almost certainly hacked by multiple foreign intelligence services, and putting classified data on it. Free despite h [nypost.com]
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Flynn: no lawyers in his multiple FBI interviews
Hillary!: nine lawyers in her one FBI interview, no notes by FBI allowed
Flynn: failed to register as a foreign agent while he was a private citizen
Hillary!: made millions via Clinton Foundation from Russia while she was Secretary of State approving Uranium One deal. [nytimes.com]
Flynn: going to jail
Hillary!: Free despite setting up a private email server, almost certainly hacked by multiple foreign intelligence services, and putting classified data on it. Free despite having her uncleared maid handle top secret information [nypost.com]. Free despite directing subordinate to remove classification markings and send classified data via her insecure email [thehill.com].
So? Clinton was found innocent. Flynn and the entire Trump administration are criminals. Your point?
Found innocent?
By who?
Comey weasel-worded Hillary!'s "innocence" by claiming she didn't knowingly violate laws regarding the handling of classified data, which is actually irrelevant per the law. Not only that, that's factually false anyway, because Hillary! is known to have directed a subordinate to actually remove classification markings and send a secure fax via nonsecure email [cbsnews.com].
And why weren't Cohen or Flynn offered immunity prior to their FBI interviews, like Cheryl Mills was? [politico.com]
The list of double standar
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You are correct. A good chunk of the Constitution revolves around stopping the powerful from siccing the power of government onto their opponents.
Since we're loving "But they did it!" arguments, the Republicans dragged on the Whitewater investigation to try to ultimately remove Clinton for a "process crime", that they cry is unfair now. Luckily, they didn't remove him for something unrelated to the original investigation. I.e. didn't successfully use the final step to "get" their political enemy, the rea
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So? Clinton was found innocent.
No, she wasn't. She's never been tried because Comey claimed that her blatant breaking of the law was just a "stupid move" and thus he went above and beyond his own authority and said she shouldn't be tried. That's not the job of the FBI - that's the job of the prosecutors.
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Mr. Trump, who branded his rival “Crooked Hillary” and said she would go to jail if he were president, said in an interview with reporters and editors at The New York Times that he was no longer interested in pursuing Mrs. Clinton
This was in November of 2016, just after he won. I don't know how that could be more clear.
Also, what do you mean by "more independent attorney general"? I haven't been following that closely, but I had thought the nominee was just one of his lackeys. In other words, totally dependent. Is that guy out?
How gullible can on e get!? (Score:2, Informative)
Flynn: no lawyers in his multiple FBI interviews
Hillary!: nine lawyers in her one FBI interview, no notes by FBI allowed
Flynn: failed to register as a foreign agent while he was a private citizen
Hillary!: made millions via Clinton Foundation from Russia while she was Secretary of State approving Uranium One deal. [nytimes.com]
Flynn: going to jail
Hillary!: Free despite setting up a private email server, almost certainly hacked by multiple foreign intelligence services, and putting classified data on it. Free despite having her uncleared maid handle top secret information [nypost.com]. Free despite directing subordinate to remove classification markings and send classified data via her insecure email [thehill.com].
ALL those stories were created by the Russians to discredit Clinton to get Trump elected. I cannot believe you're so gullible - but there are millions of people like you in this country and coupled with Republican election rigging, we now have a baboon in the White House who ruined Obama's great economy, got played by the North Koreans like the idiot he is, saddled future generations with debt and environmental ruin, committed treason, made the CFPB worthless, we never got that trillion dollars in infrast
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...we now have a baboon in the White House...
Well, his enemies called Lincoln a gorilla and the missing link. So far as I know, that puts Lincoln and Trump in a class apart, as the only US presidents every compared to apes or monkeys.
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With the important distinction that one of them was called a gorilla because of his looks, and the other because of his intelligence. There is no need to specify which is which.
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Yes, it's "a nation ruled by laws, not men".
No one ever mentioned women.
The bigger picture (Score:4, Interesting)
Spies in 2012-2014 caught trying to recruit US:
"Evgeny Buryakov, 39, who posed as an employee in the New York City office of a Russian bank [VTB bank], according to the federal complaint. The man he met regularly for the handoffs was Igor Sporyshev, 40, "
https://edition.cnn.com/2015/01/27/us/new-york-alleged-russian-spy/index.html
They went around New York developers offering lucrative Moscow property deals in exchange for getting sanctions lifted against Russia.
VTB bank, the bank involved, were sanctioned, the spies were prosecuted and their diplomat handlers kicked out.
This is why Trump was negotiating Trump Tower Moscow all through the election, which would have seen him basically receive $130 million in name licensing fees, and it's why VTB bank was to finance the project.
This is why he lied about the deal, despite knowing he'd already signed onto the deal, and continued to lie until Cohen's trial.
This is why his lawyer, Giuliani, lied about him signing the deal, only admitting Trump had signed it when confronted with the contract.
This is Moscow hid the deal, and went along with Trump's lie, helping him conceal it. They knew he was lying, they had a copy of the letter of intent he so carefully hid from the FBI... yet they cooperated in the lie.
You see why Trump just handed control of Syria over to Moscow? There's trust there, Trump knew Putin would conceal the lies he was telling to the FBI.
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Russia can have Syria. Let's see how that works out for them.
Russia doesn't want Syria. You may not understand, but some people just want to keep the peace, trade with one another on a fair basis, and live a decent life. It's not compulsory to exploit, plunder, cheat and kill in order to feel valid.
The Russian government waited as long as it possibly could before giving support to the Syrian government. Another month or so, and Syria would have gone the same way as Libya - much to Washington's satisfaction.
Since 2015 Russia has given Syria the minimum help it needed
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Russia doesn't want Syria. You may not understand, but some people just want to keep the peace, trade with one another on a fair basis, and live a decent life.
Okay, but we're talking about the leadership of Russia here, and they don't fit that description, so that's irrelevant.
Since 2015 Russia has given Syria the minimum help it needed to
...become a wholly-controlled puppet of Russia.
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Spies in 2012-2014 caught trying to recruit US... They went around New York developers offering lucrative Moscow property deals in exchange for getting sanctions lifted against Russia.
That's damned odd, since the sanctions were only imposed in 2014 and later. Did those guys have precognition, or what?
Moreover, the Russian government has never had the slightest motive to try to get sanctions lifted. They have done Europe a lot of economic harm - tens or hundreds of billions worth - and Russia a great deal of good. (Had you noticed that Russia, not the USA, is now the world's leading exporter of wheat? And safe, healthy wheat - not the GM muck the USA produces).
https://russia-insider.com/s [russia-insider.com]
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Going to bet that if Trump ever woke up and said "fuck it, why the hell not" on declassifying EVERY document of hers from her tenure at State, you'd find a whole lot worse coming from her office in terms of corrupting elections than anything Mueller has on these Russians.
I'd take that bet. You can bet that Trump and/or the RNC already has staff looking for such a smoking gun, and one had been found it would have been released already.
Just like if we ever got the full truth on the weapons and cash-running in Libya (what Benghazi was really about) and how it basically fucked our counter CWMD efforts up the ass for a generation, the investigation would make the Church Committee look like a bunch of back-slapping between buddies for State and the CIA.
Selling arms to terrorists, pay for play, and the like are all standard elements of the playbook. Clinton was the status quo candidate, that's not a surprise. But the status quo didn't involve bending over for Russia. Things are so very worse than the status quo now that it still surprises me a little that the Trumpanistas can't see it.
"Meddling"? (Score:2)
Scooby gang: "Mr. Russky???"
Mr. Russky: "Yes, it was me! And it would have worked too, if it weren't for you meddling social media censor kids!!!"
Square jawed policeman: "Good work kids! And where he's going, I don't think his meddling tricks will ever work!"
The targets live in Russia, though, and it's doubtful that they'll travel to countries where the sanctions will hit them. This is more a symbolic gesture than one intended to curb Russian hacks and manipulation attempts.
Square jawed policeman: "Oh .,.. well, never mind then ... maybe they will ... "
Mark my words. (Score:2)
This is the begining.
After 16 people were able to reverse the "natural" outcome of the elections of the "greatest democracy in the world", Major powers will change democracy in a way that you can only vote parties previously approved by real powers. No people will be able to create new parties or run for president except for designed ones... just like happens in IRAN, Middle East "democracies", and other repressive countries.
The brainwashing against democracy has begun, once people has realized the false s
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Symbolic (Score:2)
The Gov should create an AI that trolls those people online mercilessly.
This ought to be interesting in 2020 (Score:2)
I agree with the principle that people who can't vote in an election shouldn't be allowed to influence it. But I simply don't think that's a goal that's realistically achievable without compl
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Any non-American posting anything on social media visible in the U.S. for/against any candidate in the 2020 Presidential election can now be told, "please delete your post or you could be accused of election meddling, and face sanctions prohibiting Americans from conducting any transactions with you in the future."
I agree with the principle that people who can't vote in an election shouldn't be allowed to influence it. But I simply don't think that's a goal that's realistically achievable without completly breaking other freedoms of social interaction.
Barring foreigners from commenting on elections in a country is of course silly and pointless [1], but barring organized false-flag comment campaigns seems very reasonable to me. We call this shilling, and it is frowned upon in all social media.
[1] I must assume the same principles apply if the country is the USA or any other country.
Re:THERE WAS NO ELECTION MEDDLING (Score:5, Insightful)
Actually, deliberately spreading false statements in an effort to sway voters one way or another sounds like election meddling to me -- trying to add votes is called fraud, not meddling.
US, UK, Italy, Brazil,... People are falling for it everywhere.
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deliberately spreading false statements in an effort to sway voters one way or another sounds like election meddling to me
So CNN, NYT, WaPo, HuffPo, etc should be locked up for election meddling?
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every clueless fuck that voted for trump should be forced to at least re-take (and pass) junior high (lets get real here, most never did pass and graduate high school, so we have to go back a few grades) civics and american history.
Hillary Clinton won CA by 61% to 31% [nytimes.com] over Donald Trump - 2nd only to Hawaii. Yet, if you dig into the statistics [census.gov], you'll find that California is number 1 in percentage of residents 25 and older who never finished 9th grade, and ranks 50th in terms of high school graduation rates.
Seems to me that you should change your perspective about who actually passed...
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Actually, deliberately spreading false statements in an effort to sway voters one way or another sounds like election meddling to me...
That includes Obama's failed attempt to influence the UK Brexit Referendum in 2016.
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All Obama said was that he was not going to prioritize a trade deal with the UK. In fact that pretty much what US policy has been since Obama made his Administration's position clear. It's not like the current Republican president or the republican-contrklled Senate has made any grand overtures to Britain. A trade deal between the US and post-Brexif Britain is no closer today than during the referendum. Trump is no more going to rescue Britain from its attempt at economic and political suicide than Obama wo
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A lot of nonsense is talked about "trade deals" between governments. In fact, of course, governments cannot make any positive contributions to trade - or, really, much of anything else.
But they can screw it up thoroughly if they put their minds to it.
"Free trade" is what people did before there were governments to stop them. It's politicians, and only politicians, who impose tariffs, tell us what we can and can't buy or sell, and thus make global commerce run as smoothly as a car with the handbrake permanen
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I have a hard time figuring out whether you're naive or a moron. Goods that traverse any border by their very nature are the province of governments. Why do you think the Framers put the interstate commerce clause in the Constitution?
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I have a hard time figuring out whether you're naive or a moron.
Well, that's the Dunning-Kruger effect for you.
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Maybe go figure out why the Hanseatic League was such a big deal when it started, you'll understand that 'free trade' didn't really exist before controls were put in place.
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Re:THERE WAS NO ELECTION MEDDLING (Score:4, Informative)
At worst this was inappropriate vetting of an NGO. The whole "Obama used State Department cash to undermine Netanyahu" is nothing more than a conspiracy theory with no evidence. Even the article you link to makes it clear that OneVoice probably used the money in a fashion not intended for.
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That includes Obama's failed attempt to influence the UK Brexit Referendum in 2016.
One of the main reasons many of us voted Leave.
If Obama ordered me to drink a triple Glenmorangie, I would seriously consider not doing so.
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Actually, deliberately spreading false statements in an effort to sway voters one way or another sounds like election meddling to me -- trying to add votes is called fraud, not meddling.
And who is the anointed judge of which statements are true, and which are false?
You, presumably.
Re:THERE WAS NO ELECTION MEDDLING (Score:5, Insightful)
Actually, deliberately spreading false statements in an effort to sway voters one way or another sounds like election meddling to me -- trying to add votes is called fraud, not meddling.
And who is the anointed judge of which statements are true, and which are false?
You, presumably.
Truth exists. You can ignore it or call it lies, but you can't ignore the consequences of ignoring it. Many things were said by Trump and the Russian aids that were trivially proven untrue, usually with a 30 second Google search.
The fact that Trump defends this behaviour after the fact by minimizing it and ignoring it, or flat out lying, is extremely shameful and a complete and total violation of his oath of office. He swore to protect the country against ALL enemies foreign and domestic. Any entity that promotes propaganda and lies is an enemy, for a democratic society depends on truth for its proper functioning.
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Truth exists. You can ignore it or call it lies, but you can't ignore the consequences of ignoring it. Many things were said by Trump and the Russian aids that were trivially proven untrue, usually with a 30 second Google search.
Whether truth exists, as you say, or not is a question that philosophers have been arguing about for several thousand years - and they still haven't decided.
Imagine a world with no human beings, or reasoning animals of any kind. In that world, does truth "exist"? What is, certainly is. But where does "truth" come into it? Truth is a feature of statements: we say that some are true and others are false. No people, no statements, no truth or falsity.
It is a bit worrying that your concern for truth seems narro
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Lastly, your innocent remark about relying on "a 30 second Google search" to establish the truth knocks the bottom out of any credibility you might have had. Google? Really?? I suppose the 30 seconds is how long it takes you to look down the list of Google hits and find one that suits your particular bias.
Nice try, but the truths in question are not the nature of existence. They were frequently things as simple as the size of his inauguration crown, whether or not it rained, whether or not he defeated isis, whether or not he had killed obamacare..
Hell the post has like a list of 6000.. I'm sure they'd appreciate it if you pointed out any inacuracies..
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Nice try, but the truths in question are not the nature of existence. They were frequently things as simple as the size of his inauguration crown, whether or not it rained, whether or not he defeated isis, whether or not he had killed obamacare..
Hell the post has like a list of 6000.. I'm sure they'd appreciate it if you pointed out any inacuracies..
Funny list.
The only one that matters at all (at least to anyone who isn't a US citizen) is "whether or not he defeated ISIS". Obviously he didn't: even if he were disposed to, his staff and the denizens of the Pentagon, State and the CIA would have put him straight.
Inasmuch as there is something called "ISIS", it has been defeated in Syria by the efforts of Russia, Syria, Iran and Hezbollah. (Where by "Syria" I mean the Syrian armed forces, the Syrian government, and many Syrian citizens whether acting as i
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"Many things were said by Trump and the Russian aids that were trivially proven untrue, usually with a 30 second Google search."
Yes but not the biggest and most important ones. A major domestic political party did rig their primaries contrary to the interests of the actual voters in the party and all this bullshit about russia has been news primarily for the purpose of distracting you from that.
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Here [politifact.com] is one of many that he used to try and subvert the democratic process. This is what our country is based on. I will just tell you if you can't understand this: this is important.
Here [politifact.com] is one that he used to justify cutting taxes even further for the 5,000 richest people in the country. I think that's important, because *someone* still needs to pay those taxes. These tax cuts have not come wi
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"You think that isn't important?"
I don't recall having said either way. Also, you do know you are referencing a site with partisan bias. A subtle clue is something inflammatory like "pants on fire" in a headline. Snark is not a typical characteristic of legitimate unbiased news sources.
Not that there is much point, you are clearly a partisan and partisans don't use the reasoning centers of their brains to evaluate political issues.
For someone who is not a partisan and reading this. The only issue I'd speak
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Snark is not a typical characteristic of legitimate unbiased news sources.
I have never heard this claim before. It's awfully convenient, given that most political comedy is left-leaning. Just another reason to dismiss anything that makes Trump look bad? I've been dismayed to see that people have been so willing to cast aside even the idea of fact checking, holding politicians accountable for what they say.
Incidentally, you seem to be confused about what the word partisan means. Partisanship is about favoring one party or person or side. It's not about disfavoring one party or
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"I have never heard this claim before. It's awfully convenient, given that most political comedy is left-leaning."
And to left leaning or right leaning is synonymous with biased. Both toward left or right but also toward partisan politics. As it happens almost all right leaning news includes a comedic and snarky element as well. That is actually what made the old Colbert Report parody possible and subtle. You are likely too offended by what they are saying to catch when they are joking and treat it all as li
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given that this isn't a conversation about Trump
The fuck? (again)
You: "Trump didn't do this thing. And Hillary was worse because she rigged the primaries in some unspecified way."
Me: "Trump did do this thing, here are three examples. And the primaries were not rigged, that's how primaries work."
You: "I'm the one sane person in an insane world, and you are clearly one of the loons. So I don't have to listen to you. Also, Trump's claim is valid because anecdote."
Me: "That's not what sanity is."
You: "This isn't a conversation about Trump. Also some
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Actually, deliberately spreading false statements in an effort to sway voters one way or another sounds like election meddling to me -- trying to add votes is called fraud, not meddling.
And who is the anointed judge of which statements are true, and which are false?
You, presumably.
Political speech is the most protected of all, even lies, lest the government, i.e. those with armed police behind them, become the Arbiters of Truth.
The question here is you don't know which troll posts are foreign government-placed on myriad sites.
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"Meddling," huh? Can you quote the law section that prohibits election "meddling?" Is that part of the FEC regulations? No, that would only apply to registered electioneers. Just what law is it that forbids "meddling," anyway?
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There was, there was. You're just too dumb to notice.
"Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye".
- Matthew 7:5
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"Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye".
Are you suggesting that he's dumb and should get smart, or that his party is also corrupt and he should address that? Because either way, every time we look (at republican request) for democrats meddling in elections, we actually find republicans meddling in elections instead.
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So chris steele who prepared the thoroughly debunked dossier
That 'debunked' dossier has been pretty damn accurate on most of the claims it has made. Some things are still unverifyable (like the pee tapes).
Re:THERE WAS ELECTION MEDDLING (Score:5, Insightful)
The average voting American citizen has the equivalent of the 8th grade education. (they may have a higher degree in actuality, but after 8th grade, most students start to diverge and focus on their specialties).
So think about your political knowledge back in 8th grade, you have a general idea on how the US government power is distributed, what the elected officials in general do. But most of your view on politics is based on your Family, friends, church and neighbors.
Myself I grew up near a blue state capital (most of my friends and neighbors where State Employees and very Democrat), but my family is very republican. So I grew up with conflicting messages, probably why I am a moderate today, because I can understand the points made and realize the other side isn't the evil monster as partisans tend to express.
So what did the Russians hackers do that meddled in the elections? Realizing the general naivete of the population, they were able to find what topic they feel strongly about (not overly political), find a group of people with an opposing idea. Befriend both sides and radicalize them, so topics like police shooting unarmed minorities, because they assume they are dangerous because of their looks, becomes political. And they are painted as only caring for the minority and not the general population. While the other side is painted as racist.
So now we have Hillary Clinton who was a public servant vs Donald Trump, who was a boastful personality. Your Russian Friends who are now influencing you and your feelings and pushing your view on topics to the extreme, have now either turned you in a loud mouth radical, or seeing the other side (mainly Clinton) as the enemy.
I heard a lot of Trump Voters who voted for him, not because they liked Trump, but because they were afraid of Clinton, because to them the Clinton Supporters seemed like crazed LiBeRaLs who wanted to bankrupt the country with all their welfare, and because of e-Mails which in the grand scheme of things was just stupid. While Trump with Russian Facebook influence was moderated down, and outraged was calmed, to well he will change after becoming president.
If the Russian Trolls were saying they were Russians pushing a political agenda in America it wouldn't be so bad, as people would take it as such. But they pretend to be peoples friends, and are US Citizens like them. Just to influence the elections and the government.
Progressive = idiot (Score:3, Informative)
story [washingtontimes.com] you should read.
Yep, Clinton paid Steele to get Russian contacts to write up fake info on Trump so she could... challenge a lawful election if she lost. You morons fell for it. The guy who made it all up is literally laughing at how stupid you are.
Hillary Clinton paid for lies, you bought it, and are screaming your head off repeating it. Face it, you don't like democracy and refuse to accept the outcome of an election, something that Clinton had said was "horrible" to think anyone could do it. Yet
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My family is/was very Republican, too. But they're also assholes. I mean, I haven't kept up with my generation either so I'm not sure what they're like now, but their parents were a bunch of shitlords, and enablers of shitlords. Not all of them were full-fledged assholes in their own right, but all of them made excuses for the assholery of the others so nothing ever had to be fixed or addressed. So I learned a different lesson than you learned.
Leftists may have their heads in the clouds, but they're trying
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Leftists may have their heads in the clouds, but they're trying to help.
Pelosi said she is going to take away the only significant tax cut I've had in my life.
Kate Stynle was killed by an illegal felon using a firearm, they did not convict him and still refuse to protect US citizens by their sanctuary cities and refusing to protect the border.
They are unwilling to accept the outcome of a lawful election that got Trump into the White House
They are attempting to pass an amendment to overturn free speech because of Citizens United case.
Obama shipped thousands of firearms to Mexico
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Pelosi said she is going to take away the only significant tax cut I've had in my life.
Either that tax cut is temporary for you and will be followed by worse taxation, or you make enough money to where you don't really need a tax cut.
Kate Stynle was killed by an illegal felon using a firearm, they did not convict him
So I read up, and while that's a very sad story, you're blaming that whole incident on a party who may well have been telling the gospel truth in his defense. Meanwhile, you're not placing any blame on the BLM Ranger who illegally left the weapon unsecured in his vehicle while he went to dinner with his family. And the man who pulled the trigger could not reasona
Drinkypoo IS A LIAR (Score:1)
Story [reuters.com] where IRS admitted wrongdoing IN COURT.
You used a lot of hand waving to make your points, including quoting the corrupt Comey. You know its all bullshit and I provided the easiest example of it. You know you lie and I just called you out for it.
Drinkypoo IS A LIAR. He thinks removing your rights, or even killing you to support a narrative to remove rights from people he doesn't like is acceptable. Do not listen to him, he is evil.
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Story where IRS admitted wrongdoing IN COURT.
Too bad you didn't read the part that said "Republicans claimed the targeting of conservative groups showed political bias in the IRS under former Democratic President Barack Obama. House Republican investigators found no connection to the Obama administration, according to a 2014 report." That's right, even the Republicans couldn't find any evidence of their claims that the IRS' actions were politically motivated. Thanks for proving that you can't read, it makes it a lot easier for people to assume that yo
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A few things you need to learn...
Citizens United v FEC [wikipedia.org] was to keep "the government from restricting independent expenditures for communications by nonprofit corporations, for-profit corporations, labor unions, and other associations". Not just corporations. But your selective choice of words speaks volumes...
President Obama topped the list of Saudi arms offers [reuters.com], more than any other Administration. Yet you conveniently left him out of your list, skipping from Trump to Bush - why?
California is suing the [reuters.com]
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They are unwilling to accept the outcome of a lawful election that got Trump into the White House
Who told you that? They're a liar, and you're an idiot. No one is challenging the outcome of the election. Although, since you mention it, there have been multiple signs of every kind of election meddling on the part of the Republicans. Vote fraud, voter fraud, Russian collusion... It's like they went down a list of possibles.
Too bad all of your examples are bullshit. Bullshit like that is typical religious reich "trying to help". Help themselves.
What do you call the "Resist" movement then?
"Not my president!" ; "Impeach Trump!" (on what grounds??) "He lost the popular vote, he shouldn't have won!"
You Leftists have absolutely denied the legitimate outcome of the election, from wanting to scuttle the electoral college itself to working feverishly with the baseless "Russian Collusion" story that Clinton, FusionGPS, and her cronies cooked up to de-legitimatize the election results.
All Mueller has really found indicates that some Russians paid for som
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Russians used to be very friendly towards the USA - especially when they thought it was the land of milk and honey, where streets were paved with gold.
They are still prepared to treat the USA in a friendly way - as far as one can with someone who has tried to poison one and who is known to carry razors up both sleeves and a garrote in his pocket.