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At Least One Major Carrier Lied About Its 4G Coverage, FCC Review Finds (arstechnica.com) 46

An anonymous reader quotes a report from Ars Technica: Four months after receiving a complaint claiming that Verizon "grossly overstated" its 4G LTE coverage in government filings, the Federal Communications Commission says that at least one carrier is apparently guilty of significant rules violations. The FCC did not name any specific carrier in its announcement and did not respond to our question about whether Verizon is among the carriers being investigated. But the investigation was apparently triggered by a complaint about Verizon filed in August by the Rural Wireless Association (RWA).

The RWA, which represents rural carriers, made its case to the FCC by submitting speed test data. The speed tests showed the Verizon network wasn't providing 4G LTE service in areas that Verizon claimed to cover, according to the RWA. Inaccurate coverage maps could make it difficult for rural carriers to get money from the Mobility Fund, a government fund intended for unserved areas. "A preliminary review of speed test data submitted through the challenge process suggested significant violations of the Commission's rules," FCC Chairman Ajit Pai said Friday in his announcement of the FCC investigation. The FCC said its investigation focuses on "whether one or more major carriers violated the Mobility Fund Phase II (MF-II) reverse auction's mapping rules and submitted incorrect coverage maps."

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At Least One Major Carrier Lied About Its 4G Coverage, FCC Review Finds

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  • by dgatwood ( 11270 ) on Monday December 10, 2018 @07:52PM (#57783524) Homepage Journal

    Like the old joke about politicians.

    Q: How do you know a politician is lying?

    A: His/her lips are moving.

    In much the same vein, you know a coverage map is lying because the carrier provided it.

    • In this case though they lied to the federal oversight organization in order to secure extra incentives. It'd be nice to see that carry the same penalties as intentionally lying on any other federally mandated oversight, such as taxes or other financial statements.

      Personally I think that should at a minimum involve jail time for the executive responsible for having the reports produced, but I'm not holding my breath.

      • Until actual penalties are enforced for paying a politician to intercede I wouldn't expect anything but a token financial penalty that's far smaller than the profits gained by violating the rules.
        • Why? It's not the buyer that's betraying the nation, it's the seller.

          I'm still waiting for political corruption to be recognized as the treason it is, but I'm not holding my breath.

    • Those responsible for the lies . . . have been sacked:

      https://news.slashdot.org/stor... [slashdot.org]

      Those responsible for the sacking . . . will also be sacked:

      https://news.slashdot.org/stor... [slashdot.org]

    • If an investigation found that a carrier's coverage maps were accurate, now *that* would be a news story.
  • by Anonymous Coward

    Now ban them from receiving all Mobility Funds in the future. Maybe even sue them to get past funding back.

    • by SpzToid ( 869795 )

      https://www.fcc.gov/mobility-f... [fcc.gov]

      Mobility Fund Phase II (MF-II) will make up to $4.53 billion in support available over 10 years to primarily rural areas that lack unsubsidized 4G Long Term Evolution (LTE) service. MF-II is critically important to supporting mobile voice and broadband coverage, incentivizing the deployment of mobile wireless service through a reverse auction, and ensuring that 4G LTE service is preserved and advanced in those areas of the country that lack unsubsidized service.

  • Oh really!!??? (Score:4, Insightful)

    by BLToday ( 1777712 ) on Monday December 10, 2018 @07:55PM (#57783540)

    Damn, next you're going to tell me the Sun is hot.

  • They didn't name the company. *coughcast*. I wonder who could possibly be that slimey. *coughcast* *coughcast*

  • by Sarusa ( 104047 ) on Monday December 10, 2018 @08:08PM (#57783584)

    Not announcing any names till he figures out how to not implicate his corporate masters at Verizon. Given how this investigation started, and given they're evil bastards who lie about everything I have no doubt they're one of the firms. The only question is who else?

    I'm sure gigantic fines of maybe $10000 will be applied. That'll teach 'em.

    • You know for a fact some of their coverage maps are lies. Therefore you can't trust ANY coverage map until you have independently verified ALL of them. Once you have done that you can claw back all the money paid for building out their networks with interest, plus the cost of the nation wide coverage map survey, plus fines for lying.
  • But it's not like Verizon's lapdog is going to do anything. So there's nothing Verizon is worrying about.

  • by Anonymous Coward

    I have Verizon. My business partner has T-Mobile. We travel for business often. Every time we get to an area that isn't urban his phone stops working (we even SIM swapped to a spare device to make sure it isn't his phone). The T-Mobile coverage map would say full LTE coverage around us for miles but no T-Mobile coverage was there at all.

    My Verizon phone worked even when the map said it shouldn't. So don't be so quick to jump to conclusions.

    • by Desler ( 1608317 )

      Maybe learn to read the whole summary?

      But the investigation was apparently triggered by a complaint about Verizon filed in August by the Rural Wireless Association (RWA).

    • I live south of Baltimore MD, and my daughter was attending college in Fairmont WV. The Verizon map showed (as of three or four years ago) continuous coverage from here to there, and there. There was not; there were numerous long gaps along I-70 and I-68 between Frederick MD and somewhere in eastern WV, and no coverage whatsoever that I ever discovered in Fairmont or the surrounding area for ten or so miles--not even at Fairmont State University, which is on a hill above much of the city of Fairmont. It

    • by satsuke ( 263225 )

      The selection of device makes a huge difference for TMO.

      Pretty much only the latest generations of Galaxy S8 or higher (or Apple Iphone X) support all of the bands they use to the fullest extent.

      e.g. for rural coverage, they might deploy only band 71 // 600mhz band for LTE coverage, rather than putting GSM/UMTS out, simply because there's not enough demand for the closer tower spacing required for 1900 coverage.

  • Get OpenSignal (Score:4, Informative)

    by bill_mcgonigle ( 4333 ) * on Monday December 10, 2018 @09:42PM (#57783912) Homepage Journal

    Run it, use its maps. Carriers lie, radios don't.

    https://opensignal.com/ [opensignal.com]

  • So we already know there will be no penalties, merely some stern words in exchange for an under the table donation.

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