US Bans Exports To Chinese DRAM Maker Citing National Security Risk (zdnet.com) 101
An anonymous reader quotes a report from ZDNet: The Trump administration on Monday announced it was banning U.S. exports to a Chinese semiconductor firm named Fujian Jinhua Integrated Circuit Company, citing national security concerns. In a statement released by the U.S. Department of Commerce (DoC), officials said the Chinese chipmaker posed "a significant risk of being or becoming involved, in activities contrary to the national security or foreign policy interests of the United States." DoC officials are now barring US companies from selling any products to Fujian Jinhua, which was recently nearing completion of a new dynamic random access memory (DRAM) factory project. "When a foreign company engages in activity contrary to our national security interests, we will take strong action to protect our national security. Placing Jinhua on the Entity List will limit its ability to threaten the supply chain for essential components in our military systems," said Wilbur Ross, Secretary of Commerce.
They are involved in IP theft. (Score:5, Informative)
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That's OK, they won't get in any trouble, they'll only have their lifestyles re-implemented.
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Wrong.. they engaged in IP copying. No matter how much some groups scream, copying information isn't, and never will be theft.
Gosh, how is it that there are so many legal scholars like you on Slashdot?
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You can't steal IP. i don't think you know what IP is.
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There has been little pushback from the left or right concerning the sanctions and increased tariffs the Trump administration has enacted against China or Russia. Hell the Chinese have been practically mute on the increased tariffs. Maybe they are just waiting things out to a new administration takes office? If that's their plan they might be in for a rude surprise when the next administration maintains and even strengthening the existing sanctions and tariffs. Trump has did something none of his predecesso
Re: Snopes Fact Check: MOSTLY TRUE (Score:3, Insightful)
China is a communist country first and foremost. Youâ(TM)re forgetting this in most of your arguments.
Chinaâ(TM)s government manipulates the international markets to enable them to eventually collapse the whole thing. If China is able to manufacture and produce everything needed without concern for money, they can effectively cut off the rest of the world. They have taken over market segment by market segment and made it so nearly everything from tooth brushes to airplanes cannot be manufactured w
Re: Snopes Fact Check: MOSTLY TRUE (Score:4, Interesting)
China has been exporting deflation to other countries by keeping prices low you idiot.
No Comma Faggot, is that you?!
You don't really understand the whole 'currency thing,' do you? The Chinese need to keep the value of their currency down if they want to keep their prices low (i.e stay competitive), not the other way around.
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It's really precious that you think the degenerates weren't always here. What you are noticing is that the quality posters have left, so the signal-to-noise ratio has lowered.
You didn't notice the noise when the signal was strong. Now you are straining to hear it through the static.
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Mute? The Chinese enacted counter sanctions on all their major US import products. Which include agricultural produce and airplanes and airplane parts. They also tried to negotiate with the US, but since each negotiator the US has sent them so far sings a different tune, they have realized it is better to just wait until the US has its mid-term elections until they try again.
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US patents are exactly that. US patents. they don't effect China in any way.
In other words... (Score:2)
In other words, ya gotta pay to play bitches! Call me when your check clears.
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In other words, China has a big red button somewhere that p0wns anything connected to the network that has that brand of RAM.
Our beloved president's noose is getting tighter.. (Score:1)
Way to go Mr President. While your noose [around China] is surely getting tighter, it may be advisable that you evaluate whether in the end, you may bite the arm that feeds you.
Folks are already paying a bit more for goods coming from China; China could dump the dollar. If this ever happened, we'd be in big trouble, fast.
Re:Our beloved president's noose is getting tighte (Score:4, Insightful)
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They, and the communist party, can bare it.
An elected official? (And with term limits) Not so much.
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So will China
China knows Trump will be out by 2024 at the latest. Perhaps as soon as 2020, if everything at Walmart ends up with jacked up prices. Trump's support base aren't exactly the kind of people who enjoy spending more money for things (otherwise they wouldn't be so afraid of the socialism boogeyman).
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1 gallon of milk has always cost about the same as 1 gallon of gasoline.
Food in the US is cheap.
Medications are an indication of price gouging made possible by requiring everyone get "insurance".
That distorts the supply and demand curve, much in the way easy to get loans inflate college tuition prices.
Not to mention this jerk [wikipedia.org] who milked it as much as he could.
Rents are going a little crazy in several cities, but only due to the number of people relocating to an area. Prices are quick to rise and slow to fal
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Dude. The Orange beast is fed by Russia. It's a natural gas steam engine.
Export control for competitive advantage? (Score:5, Interesting)
All rather rich coming from Wilber Ross former vice chair of the bank of cypress.
"Jinhua is nearing completion of substantial production capacity for dynamic random access memory (DRAM) integrated circuits. The additional production, in light of the likely U.S.-origin technology, threatens the long term economic viability of U.S. suppliers of these essential components of U.S. military systems."
If competition is now a national security issue what isn't? Is there any limit to what controls designed to prevent export of Nuclear and military technology be used for? I understand the Micron drama but it's an abuse to misuse export controls in this way for revenge.
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America: past patent pirate (Score:2, Informative)
China are clearly IP thieves, have been for some while, and are working against the west with no idea or desire of how to play fair.
Is turnabout fair play? "Why America was the China of the 19th century."
* https://foreignpolicy.com/2012/12/06/we-were-pirates-too/
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Re:National security concerns? (Score:5, Informative)
You could replace "China" with "The United States" in your comment above and you would be absolutely spot-on about the early days of the US, as they blatantly broke British copyright laws, printed books cheaply without paying royalties and such.
Somehow, it seems emerging powers, if large enough, routinely take that route.
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So two wrongs make a right then?
Look, there's no comparing a small agrarian republic printing books and a megapower stealing stealth fighter designs and nanotech fabrication techniques. Not in the same ballpark, not the same league, ain't even the same motherfuckin' sport.
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So two wrongs make a right then?
No, actually three wrongs make a right, provided you turn on average 90 degrees.
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There was more to it than that. The USA "stole" things like steel manufacturing processes and railroad technologies like steam engines, etc. Before that a lot of cotton-mill designs were also copied without license.
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China are clearly IP thieves,
You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means. You can't steal IP it doesn't physically exist. You can violate it, you can't steal it.
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Crying wolf (Score:5, Insightful)
Ever since Trump declared Canada to be a threat to national security, it's really hard to take these declarations seriously.
I wonder what deal is he trying to wrangle from the company. Maybe he needs more investments in his golf courses and hotels.
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Those Canadians would still be selling burnt syrup ....
.. if it wasn't for AMERICAN ingenuity and reverse osmosis filtration! .....
.. Terrible, so sad...
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Canada strong army (Score:3)
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We also can't trust the American government with ownership of mission critical components. And government and corporations are just as entangled here as they are in China, the US government simply does a better job of obfuscating it.
Literally almost everything Trump accuses China of doing, the American government is equally guilty of doing. There are no good guys here.
Re: Hate the man? Love the policies (Score:2)
Helping the wrong side?
Dude... you are the disease. Red pill, wrong side, the world is not binary. Right and wrong arenâ€(TM)t the only options. There are at least 50 shades of... well whatever.
Stop fucking polarizing. Polarization is the sickness of America. Itâ€(TM)s fucking toxic and you and any other asshole who votes red or blue is responsible for the downfall of the U.S.. I mean seriously, get a book and learn what happened to the Roman senate due
The Other Shoe Dropped (Score:4, Interesting)
Now that Bloomberg article makes sense: it was supposed to set the stage for this. The doubt thrown on it has made them walk back the rhetoric, so the 'national security' verbiage doesn't make so much sense any more. That said, aside from some novel rowhammer-style attack (was that ever fixed?), I can't see DRAM being a security problem. Reliability, yes, but not security.
In any case, the military will add it to their 'will not buy' list, just like other Chinese/Russian tech. Trying to impede the completion of the factory is unnecessary unless they think it'll produce relabeled counterfeits. Presumably, Chinese-made NAND isn't a problem? The NAND fab they're about to open is going to have 50% larger production than the world's current-largest NAND company, and that's going to cause prices to plummet fast.
Commie IPhones (Score:2)
But not imports from same company? (Score:2)
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Fujian still has not started manufacturing a single damned thing yet.
DUH! (Score:2)