Delta's Fully Biometric Terminal Is the First In the US (engadget.com) 53
In what Delta is calling the first "biometric terminal" in the country, they will reportedly use facial recognition at check-in, security and boarding inside the international terminal at Atlanta's Hartsfield-Jackson airport. Engadget reports: Passengers that want to use facial recognition can approach a kiosk in the lobby and click "Look," or approach a camera at the ticket counter, TSA checkpoint or when boarding. Once a green check mark flashes on the screen, they can proceed. Delta -- which plans to introduce fingerprint scanning to fold, too -- says passengers can use this system instead of the passports to get through these checkpoints, but you'll still need your passport for use in other non-biometric-equipped airports (although maybe one day we'll do away with passports altogether). Privacy advocates are concerned about the security risks present in facial scans, especially as it's an opt-out process. Others, however, say it makes air travel a more streamlined process.
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Others, however, say it makes air travel a more streamlined process.
Trading away privacy due to laziness. It's the American way.
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Re:Oooh! I just can't wait! (Score:5, Insightful)
No, we traded our privacy for "Security" then traded "Security" for laziness.
The key phrase in our national anthem "Land of the free and the home of the brave" For freedom we need to be brave. We are scared, we became less brave, so we gave up our freedom.
Freedom isn't safe. People will die and be unjustly hurt in a free society. But if we value freedom we need to be brave enough to stand up and say. We know the risks, we choose to face them for our freedom.
This isn't a problem with any one side of the political system, The Safety argument is used all too often.
Nice Touring Car (Score:4, Insightful)
Looking at a nice Touring car now. Flying is over rated especially shorter distances.
You can drive from Austin to Dallas faster than you can fly when you time it from your front door to the hotel door.
Hell...just the recommend two hour early arrival at the airport gets you half way and more to Dallas.
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Car's gonna depreciate no matter how much I drive it. I have a 2006 with ony 80k on it. It's worth the same as any other 2006 in god condition.
Gas is a fraction of the ticket costs.
I like driving, no stress. That has everything to do with you and not the traffic
I'm a good driver.
Gee...looks like you'll be paying three times as much and getting your face scanned while I'm sitting in the Hotel bar.
What could possibly go wrong? (Score:3)
Knowing Delta's mastery [businessinsider.de] of established technology [usatoday.com] lets me look forward into a bright future with them embracing the spearhead of bleeding edge technology.
--signed, Oscar Muñoz, CEO United Airlines.
Biometrics are dumb (Score:5, Insightful)
Biometrics are dumb for security. Ultimately, they are even worse than passwords. When someone steals a few million irises from their database, the company can't send out a bulk email telling everyone to change their eyes.
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When someone steals a few million irises from their database, the company can't send out a bulk email telling everyone to change their eyes.
Good afternoon, Mr. Yakamoto. How did you like that three-pack of tank tops you bought last time you were in?
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Not only that, but hasn't it been less than 12 hours since there was another story here about all the problems with facial recognition at the airport?
https://yro.slashdot.org/story... [slashdot.org]
It's really bothersome when you see a corporation or an entire industry rush headlong into some new technology even though they know it's rife with problems. It's like they can't stop themselves or something.
Re: Biometrics are dumb (Score:2)
More like, they are more interested in flashy headlines, impressing their board members, and andvertising opportunities than they are interested in actual security.
Caution (Score:5, Interesting)
>"Delta -- which plans to introduce fingerprint scanning to fold, too"
Not a fan of this at all, but would flatly refuse if the biometrics used tried to include fingerprints or DNA. Those are two HUGE no-no's- they are left all over the place and can be collected without your permission or knowledge. One is easy to fake and the other can reveal all kinds of information about you*. Iris is also not safe- it is observable from a distance and also fakeable.
* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... [wikipedia.org]
If you must choose a biometric, make it either retina scan or deep vein palm scan. And even then, should only be used when absolutely essential.
Re: Caution (Score:2)
Biometrics are used at customs, but not as a primary identification source. Your primary source of identification is still your passport.
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Biometrics are used at customs, but not as a primary identification source. Your primary source of identification is still your passport.
There are two ways to do biometrics.
1. Cheap and fast with high error rates.
2. Accurate but slow and expensive.
Most places go with option 1 so accept a high level of false positives. I've been going through the biometric terminals at Australian airports, A human doesn't even look at my passport any more when entering Oz. Given that I've never experienced any trouble going through I'm gathering that they accept a high degree of inaccuracy. When doing this, biometrics should never be used as a means of authen
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Biometrics are used all over the world ... It is necessary today, whether you like it or not.
Oxygen, water, food. Only things that are necessary. Well, maybe toilet paper.
If u travel, then get used to it or take the bus or train.
It will come there next.
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>"I said fuck it, if I'm already in the database, I might as well"
That is how privacy and freedom are lost. Many of us are NOT in "the database" and don't want to be. Do what you will, but please keep in mind that just because it becomes more "norm" doesn't mean it is the right thing to do or that people who resist are somehow backwards, paranoid, or have "something to hide".
Oh, and many (if not most) CCP/CWP/CHPs don't require fingerprinting.
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And once you’ve gotten printed, there is no point in not taking advantage of it. You do you.
Sounds like another partial solution (Score:2)
If they're doing this to passengers, they should definitely do this for employees and TSA agents. And maybe that one douche bag that works at Starbucks.
Now we know why Delta can't keep their systems up (Score:2)
"Who cares about planes taking off when you've got TOYS!" - Delta CEO
Great (Score:5, Interesting)
I guess the hackers would know... (Score:2)
...what my face looks like? Isn't that already public and not private?
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Accuracy? (Score:1)
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Doubles as a taser (Score:1)
You can check in AND get tased and hauled off before having to walk all the way to the gate!
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Pretty sure I used one last week in atlanta. it's at the gate. you scan your boarding pass, walk through the little gate, next person goes. BFD. Why we have gate agents scanning barcodes is beyond me anyhow.
i have NFI why they're calling this biometric. It's just scanning your barcode ... just like the gate agent does. Protip: unless you're flying international you don't show ID to board a plane.
Now, you CAN use biometrics in the airport. Clearme (dot com) uses them at their kiosk which bypasses the
Opt-out link (Score:2)
How does a person opt out? Does anyone have a link?