Three Execs Get Prison Time For Pirating Oracle Firmware & Solaris OS Update (bleepingcomputer.com) 119
An anonymous reader writes: Three of four TERiX executives were sentenced to prison yesterday for a scheme through which they created three fake companies to pirate Oracle firmware patches and Solaris OS updates. By doing this, the execs avoided paying a per-server fee for every Oracle product their company serviced, instead paying for one patch/update alone.
Court documents show that Oracle was aware of the scheme and eventually connected the dots between the fake companies and TERiX when one of the execs downloaded files from Oracle's servers via one of the fake company's accounts from a TERiX IP address. Oracle filed a complaint with the FBI, but also a civil suit. A judge awarded Oracle damages last year totaling $57.423 million. The judge also barred TERiX from servicing Oracle products.
Court documents show that Oracle was aware of the scheme and eventually connected the dots between the fake companies and TERiX when one of the execs downloaded files from Oracle's servers via one of the fake company's accounts from a TERiX IP address. Oracle filed a complaint with the FBI, but also a civil suit. A judge awarded Oracle damages last year totaling $57.423 million. The judge also barred TERiX from servicing Oracle products.
Jailtime, another great reason to avoid oracle (Score:2, Informative)
Seriously, now I need to go get an insurance policy to pay out if Oracle sticks me with criminal charges? Sounds like this should have been purely a civil matter.
Re: Jailtime, another great reason to avoid orac (Score:2)
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even if you are using the software to fix things the author sold with bugs in the first place?
why would anyone do business with Oracle or any other company with this business model? I would expect no bugs or free patches asap.
yes Even if. fraud is fraud no matter how immoral the individual/company is you are commiting fraud against. If you think Oracle is the devil (won't argue with that) then DON'T FUCKING DO BUSINESS WITH THEM. It isn't like they make anything that has no alternatives to them.
I'd like to be a fly on the wall in cell block D (Score:5, Funny)
Cellmate: I stabbed my mother to death, then fed her remains to a pack of coyotes that live in my neighborhood. And you?
TERiX CEO: I gave away firmware and OS software patches without paying the necessary service royalties to Oracle.
Re: I'd like to be a fly on the wall in cell block (Score:1)
Not CEO, just EO - cannon fodder.
Re:I'd like to be a fly on the wall in cell block (Score:4, Funny)
FTFY.
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Cellmate 2: I ran youtube-dl to download the latest Britney Spears song
and shared it with my friends.
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Bri-?..man you're old
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What if it was "Justin Bieber song " or "Taylor Swift song?"
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only if you do money laundering you go that place. In the other one more like
I ripped off A bunch of old people with my phone scam
Re: Why are they not catching them Chinese? (Score:2)
Should have just defrauded pensioners (Score:3)
Fake billing old people is a much safer crime.
I mean, they profited off of it. (Score:4, Insightful)
Re: I mean, they profited off of it. (Score:1)
Re: I mean, they profited off of it. (Score:2)
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Guess you are the typical snowflake who thinks that nobody should be punished for "non violent" crimes.
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Yes hard prison time for non violent offenders seeking a profit. Clearly you are right here /snark
Do you think fraud should not be a crime? I mean this case all sounds a bit stupid because Oracle's business model has always been ruthless and focused on selling consultation services after the customer pays through the nose for the licenses. Which is never nice. (I don't like Oracle personally and would never want to use their products. Because of price and because I usually just don't like the software either.) But did the Telerix's clients now have to go spend more money to get legitimate licenses for
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Never steal from the Mafia (Score:1)
If you steal from the Oracle you get hurt.
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(missing global symbol for _xmlStructuredErrorHandler on threaded builds using solaris default) for _years_.
Bug fixed in solaris-userland for over a year (I have been lobbying them to fix it for AGES), but still not in S11 SRU updates
(I often wondered if they left it as a hidden symbol JUST to screw with PostgreSQL builds/installs)
Regardless, if you are running oracle hardware, you shoul
What the *Bleep*? (Score:4, Insightful)
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Re:What the *Bleep*? (Score:4, Interesting)
The problem is what people did to fuck up the economy in 2008 wasn't illegal. He who has the gold makes the rules.
Re:What the *Bleep*? (Score:5, Informative)
bill clinton paved the way by repealing the Glass_Steagall act https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... [wikipedia.org] bill clinton basically allowed wallstreet investment banks to use people's private money to gamble with, the Glass Steagall act should be restored
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Not relevant for a number of reasons:
1) What a president signs, a president owns. See George H. W. Bush and "read my lips".
2) The vote may have barely passed or even lost without the president whipping support for it
3) Going back to #1, if a president vetos a bill and Congress overrides, then that's 100% on Congress.
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Still not relevant for the same reason's I'll copy and paste since you ignored each of them:
1) What a president signs, a president owns. See George H. W. Bush and "read my lips".
2) The vote may have barely passed or even lost without the president whipping support for it
3) Going back to #1, if a president vetos a bill and Congress overrides, then that's 100% on Congress.
Who owns Taft-Hartley? Republicans, because they overrode Truman's veto.
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Do I need to pull out the youtube video were he waxes philosophical about how we don't need it anymore, or what?
Oh fuck, here it is anyway. But go right on blaming the repub congress for this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?... [youtube.com]
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Because they wanted it too. (Honestly-- do people really not understand that money grubbing corruption is not an exclusive to republicans?)
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Bill Clinton was a Republican (Score:2)
A lot of it was (Score:2)
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Corporations are people. Money is free speech. And they are free to contribute to municipal, state and federal elections. I can only wonder how many direct attorneys received generous contributions from companies like Oracle.
Re: What the *Bleep*? (Score:2)
Kiss my ass Oracle. (Score:1)
Yet one more reason why I won't do business with Oracle. These updates and firmware use to be free, now they're throwing people in prison because they got free updates that fixed Oracle's shitty products. Screw HPE too... Dell still offers free unencumbered firmware updates.
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Yet one more reason why I won't do business with Oracle. These updates and firmware use to be free, now they're throwing people in prison because they got free updates that fixed Oracle's shitty products. Screw HPE too... Dell still offers free unencumbered firmware updates.
Cisco pulls the same shit; no active maintenance contract on the hardware or software means no updates / fixes for you.
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I keep thinking that eventually security patching will be a legal requirement, but I can't quite decide whether it will go so far as to require vendors to make security patches available for free.
I'm sure companies would howl and try to block such a requirement, but there may be counter-arguments that say you can't compel people to install patches that they can't afford, either, so any requirement to be patched probably would coincide with some level of free security patch access.
It's obvious that fees for
If you cannot afford (Score:3)
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Re:If you cannot afford (Score:4, Insightful)
And just work the deal
Or even better, do what we did: Tell Oracle to fuck off, and move everything to PostgreSQL.
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That will just further alienate Oracle's customers and hasten the demise of Solaris and SPARC
Come on. This is Oracle we are talking about. Like MS before them their customers are on lockin with P-SQL specific code and financial stuff they can't get rid of. Why bother to be nice?
Amazingly bad publicity? (Score:2, Funny)
Hmm..
When I was eight-year-old, we lived in a large hut made of uncooked brick, seven siblings of us plus our father, our mother, an aunt and three cousins.
One week-end our dad set up a rogue Windows Update server to proxy our updates on the LAN, WSUS something, but without paying for the Windows Server 2003 or 2008 license. The next couple of weeks allowed us actual Windows XP security while saving a lot of Internet bandwith among our computers. It was great. We celebrated with a tournament of 4-player MS
Re: Amazingly bad publicity? (Score:2)
Your littlr story is cute, but has nothing to do with the crime comitted.
The company in question took Sun/Oracle updates that require customers to pay Sun/Oracle for and SOLD them to hundreds of clients as if they were selling legal copies bought from Sun/oracle.
Kinda like walking into a record store and buying records pressed while-you-wait from bootlegs.
I can't wait to hear what Oracle does to all the company's clients without support contracts.
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Your littlr story is cute, but has nothing to do with the crime comitted.
The company in question took Sun/Oracle updates that require customers to pay Sun/Oracle for and SOLD them to hundreds of clients as if they were selling legal copies bought from Sun/oracle.
Kinda like walking into a record store and buying records pressed while-you-wait from bootlegs.
I can't wait to hear what Oracle does to all the company's clients without support contracts.
Quite easy. Send their lawyers over with scary threatening letters of injunctions to shutdown all the illegal Oracle Servers ... unless of course they sign a contract with no discount of course plus a legal fee surcharge for having to pay the lawyers to threaten you.
Oracle is more evil than MS (Score:3)
I have been saying this for a few years now ever since the Java lawsuit against Google that no one is a bigger threat to innovation, FOSS, and software development freedom than Oracle.
Their products suck, buggy, ultra expensive, and require contracts which are leased rather than rented with SAAS with all sorts of stipulations.
MS on the other hand is moving in the other direction but still have a ways to go. Windows being free for non commercial use is one example and unlike Oracle their products are at least improving. Oracle is going the other way around and throwing people in jail who want a bug fix.
The most outdated shit requiring insecure IE and ancient versions of Windows on desktops is all because of fucking Oracle because they charge an arm and a leg to upgrade so Java6 (last employer) is still being used with customer financial data all because Oracle wants to charge too much money to upgrade that the cost accountants won't pay. .... end rant
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That's what you get ... (Score:2)
... for skimping out on paying a little upfront for an independent IT consultant and some scripting jobs on a Linux/Postgres setup.
Bottom line: Steer clear of Oracle. There is nothing Oracle can do that countless Foss stops can't do better and way cheaper.
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The Oracle DB running on (now) Oracle hardware, is the fastest DB on the planet, by orders of 1 or 2 magnitudes over any F/OSS DB.
Only other old behemoths like DB2 or sybase come close to it.
I guess you are only comparing mini DBs running on a PC.
Dum basses (Score:2)
why not to use Oracle (Score:2)
This is a good case of why not to use Oracle, use MySQL or Postgres
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If you want to stay away from Oracle MySQL is a bad choice. They own it.
MariaDB on the other hand...