Lithuania Calls On EU To Stop Adjusting Clocks For Daylight Savings (theguardian.com) 170
AmiMoJo shares a report from The Guardian: Lithuania has said that it would push the European Union to abolish its law on daylight saving time, claiming that most people find it annoying to have to adjust their clocks twice a year. An opinion poll published this year showed that 79% of people in the nation of 2.8 million were against the annual ritual of adjusting clocks forward by one hour in the spring and then back an hour in the autumn. Proponents of daylight saving time, adopted at the beginning of the 20th century, say the longer evening daylight hours in the summer help save energy and bolster productivity. The European Commission said it was "currently examining the summertime question based on all available evidence."
Eliminate Daylight Wasting Time (Score:1, Insightful)
Daylight Saving Time is a great idea. Ditching it in the winter is the problem. Just keep it year round and eliminate the stupid changing.
Re:Eliminate Daylight Wasting Time (Score:4, Interesting)
This is probably my greatest idea ever.
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Obviously our world is full of clocks that can't handle that now, but it did occur to me that it would be cool to just say something like, Sunset is always at 8:00pm in the center of the timezone. Clocks shift at 3am to make that work for the next day. Sure, that means sunrise at 1:30pm in the winter, but at least we can still enjoy our evenings. Who cares if it's dark out when we're at work?
Maybe in a few decades, all our clocks will use NTP, and something like this could really be done (though I don't
Re:Eliminate Daylight Wasting Time (Score:5, Funny)
OR we could have everyone keep time on their phones and have the phones automatically change the time by a few seconds every day!
This is probably my greatest idea ever.
Please don't tell us any of your other ideas.
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OR we could have everyone keep time on their phones and have the phones automatically change the time by a few seconds every day!
This is probably my greatest idea ever.
Please don't tell us any of your other ideas.
Hey - he's got a great newsletter. And T-Shirts!
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This is a horrible idea. People, pets and farm animals have internal clocks. If we would use your suggested sliding time everybody would all the time try to adjust and never be in sync.
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Probably better to change the time we start work to be an hour after sunrise. Then we've all got an excuse for being late :-)
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That's crazy. Sunrise time changes by more than 4.5 hours over the course of the year, more for people near the poles.
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Daylight Saving Time is a great idea. Ditching it in the winter is the problem. Just keep it year round and eliminate the stupid changing.
Why do you think it matters if we call a certain time of day "8 A.M." or "9 A.M."?
I mean, I'm all for not changing times, and I don't really care what arbitrary point you set to be your "noon", but I can't see that it makes any difference. It's not like your body cares about how we define what hour it is.
Re:Eliminate Daylight Wasting Time (Score:5, Insightful)
If you work until 5pm, and it gets dark at 5:10pm, you've swepnt all your daylight inside. If it gets dark at 6:10pm, at least you have a bit of daylight.
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So, what you're saying is that your employer doesn't realize that "4PM with daylight savings time" and "5PM with daylight savings time" are the exact same time?
I don't think "because people are complete and utter morons" is a good reason to keep doing DST.
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That should have been "4PM without DST", of course.
Re:Eliminate Daylight Wasting Time (Score:5, Insightful)
Ah, so the old "it doesn't matter if the official time moves around, everyone will just have different office hours during daylight savings time, all move in unison (as companies have to work together) change signs/automated messages/websites and have Google recrawl the web" answer that ignores that the way we coordinate changes like that is... by having customary start/end times for businesses and shifting the clocks until we like where we end up.
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by having customary start/end times for businesses and shifting the clocks until we like where we end up.
You realize that the whole point of this article is that tons of people don't like where we end up with shifting clocks and DST, right?
Somehow, astoundingly, the world doesn't end in places that don't have DST.
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I don't like shifting the clocks. I'm responding (in a hypersarcastic tone) to your dumb idea that 5pm DST = 4pm non-DST is relevant, when I'm talking about people working until 5, and the sun going down at 5:15, as though people will all univerally adjust their hours to make sense.
By all means, let's choose one time that works. I don't see why we wouldn't. But it has to take into account that most people will work 9-5, whenever we decide that the clocks should read 9-5. So it fucking matters.
Re:Eliminate Daylight Wasting Time (Score:5, Insightful)
How about we get rid of the notion that people work 9-5 while we're at it. This would help reduce congestion on the roads and make it more likely that people will be able to take care of errands before or after work instead of having to use their lunch break.
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Why do I get the feeling that if we get rid of it, it will only be in favor of people working more hours a day?
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How about we get rid of the notion that people work 9-5 while we're at it. This would help reduce congestion on the roads and make it more likely that people will be able to take care of errands before or after work instead of having to use their lunch break.
It's easy to say when you write code and it doesn't really matter if it happens at 3PM or 3AM. But stores have opening hours, public transport runs on a schedule, nurses work shifts, in all sorts of production facilities you need a whole staff to run the machinery. Or they're done just in time, like when a bakery makes fresh bread or you order a pizza. Some types of work are inherently done in teams or done better by teams or you need to talk to a particular person to make progress. The idea that work in ge
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But stores have opening hours, public transport runs on a schedule, nurses work shifts, in all sorts of production facilities you need a whole staff to run the machinery. Or they're done just in time, like when a bakery makes fresh bread or you order a pizza.
Literally none of those operate on a 9-5 schedule! My local bakery opens from 8 AM to 8 PM. The light rail runs from 5 AM to 1 AM the next day. The hospital opens 24/7 so it literally doesn't matter when their shifts change.
Yes, the whole staff need to get there at the same time, but it really doesn't matter whether other businesses operate with the exact same schedule. In fact, most don't!
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Point is they run to a schedule, usually the same throughout the year. Without the adjustment for summer time you would have different schedules if you wanted the benefit that summer time brings. Then people might change schedules at different times and it all gets very confusing. There is little economic or energy benefit but at 52 degrees north it does feel necessary.
Schools are also an issue, people tend to have to fit work around children. There are a bunch of good economic reasons why keeping to roughl
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The sun rising after 9 here in a winter summer time is problematic, it would also set before 5. In the summer it would rise at 3.30 on GMT and set at 8.30.
No matter how you shift that clock in the winter you're not going to be able to get up at sunrise and still have any sunlight after work. Actually, I'm pretty sure if you go any further north, you're just not going to have daylight in the winter, period.
Also, why is that problematic in the first place? If you actually do any work that requires daylight, your schedule is going to be following the sunrise anyways, and not DST. The DST would need to shift 6 hours each year (at your latitude) if it needs to
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Being a SAD person it being light in the mornings I find helpful. It gets light at 7.30/8 at the moment and I ride to work without needing lights which is nice. For that very reason I wouldn't move much further north...
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Literally all those things are based on a standard job being 9-5 (with the exception of the hospital.) The bakery opens an hour before iconic work time so people can get breakfast on the way to work, and for a few hours afterwards because that's when people prep for dinner (also, that probably fits two 8 hour shifts, because they clean up in the evening and have to bake in the morning). Light Rail is based on the idea that people are most likely to be slee
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But people would slack off if we did that!
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I agree. Almost no one works 9-5. Possible exception would be first shift for shift work, but that's more commonly something like 7-3. Standard office hours are now 8-5 with an unpaid hour lunch.
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The sun is setting at 3.50 or so here at the moment. So it'll be dark at the end of the day regardless. The hour of light in the morning is useful in the winter, else it'd be rising at 9.10 and setting at 4.50 with winter 'summer time' (I'm British, it's British Summer Time not DST for us). I understand for those at lower latitudes it isn't obviously good. It's light 'til after 9pm in the summer with BST too. So I personally like the change.
Re:Eliminate Daylight Wasting Time (Score:5, Insightful)
79% of europeans don't like adjusting their clocks twice a year. That's not the same as 79% of europeans want to stay on standard time year round. The article doesn't say if people prefer DST year round or Standard Time year round.
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This hits the nail on the head exactly. In past years, there have been multiple (apparently serious) proposals in the UK to move to year-round DST. People seriously want to change their clocks so that it no longer matches an obvious and unmissable astrological phenomenon that they see every day.
Nobody ever seems to point out that this is functionally identical to just getting up an hour earlier every day. Instead, it seems that people would genuinely prefer to still get up an hour earlier anyway, but delibe
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If you don't like setting your clocks you could just buy clocks that operate on a LW radio clock. Oh look the German government operates one that covers most of Europe, and in the NW corner the British government operates one too. The only clock I need to change is my watch which invariably needs correcting a bit anyway and my oven clock because nobody does an oven with a radio clock dam it. I carefully chose my microwave to not have a clock. Well OK it does have a clock but if you don't set it then it does
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So, what you're saying is that your employer doesn't realize that "4PM with daylight savings time" and "5PM with daylight savings time" are the exact same time?
I don't think "because people are complete and utter morons" is a good reason to keep doing DST.
Perhaps you are an apartment dweller who never sees the outside except during waiting for a bus or train. But there are a lot of us who have not only our jobs, but outside work to do as well. And those extra hours of daylight during the summer are a godsend.
Where I'm at, it is getting daylight at 4 AM in the summer. Pretty much hard to take advantage of that unless we shift it a little. Work is 8-5, so if I can have that extra daylight at a useful time, its all good. I'd take a 2 hour shift, but that's p
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What's wrong with shifting your own schedule? If it's bright out at 4 AM, maybe you should just get up at 4 AM and do your yard work or TV-watching then. Think of work as an afternoon thing.
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What's wrong with having just your business shift their schedule? What's wrong with shifting your own schedule? If it's bright out at 4 AM, maybe you should just get up at 4 AM and do your yard work or TV-watching then. Think of work as an afternoon thing.
So my personal schedule has to be shifted by a couple minutes a day, my business has to be likewise shifted, and the personal and business shifts have to be shifted based upon the latitude of the persons and businesses in question? Then add to that the mix of different places on the globe not being in the same Day/Night state as mine.
This is like a return to days of youre when most people were subsistance farming, and the limits of commerce were the local horizon. But the qorld is a lot smaller place. Sun
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If you work until 5pm, and it gets dark at 5:10pm, you've swepnt all your daylight inside. If it gets dark at 6:10pm, at least you have a bit of daylight.
Here at the leading (left) edge of EST. December 21.2017, daylight arrives at 7:15am. By 16:00 (4pm) its dark.
I would prefer that the savings time be the time all year around. Thus daylight at 8:15am when the kids are on the way to school, and at 3pm when they leave and have 2 full hours to play outdoors.
Whoops!! Kids no longer play outdoors. They go home to use their cellphones with texting, facebook, etc. That is why they are so many fat kids.
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There's a difference between caring what a particular time is called and caring that everyone agrees on what time it is. As long as there's no confusion, it doesn't matter if the sun is at its peak at 12 or 6.
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People used to think like you. Then trains came along. Then more trains. Then came the eventual collisions, deaths, and other big bummers. Collisions were stopped by more accurately syncing up times across ever wider areas. Unfathomable numbers of people's lives were saved.
You're misunderstanding what I'm saying. Of course we need a time standard. It's just that what label you give to the hours doesn't matter, as long as people agree on what those labels are. "Year-round DST" (what poster I responded to was proposing) is identical to "year-round standard time", except you have a different name for what you call the hours. Calling a particular time of day "8AM" or "9AM" shouldn't make a difference to anyone.
In any case, it should be obvious that the result of year-round DS
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Daylight Saving Time is a great idea. Ditching it in the winter is the problem. Just keep it year round and eliminate the stupid changing.
This. "Spring Forward", then leave it there. No further changes. (Except for the occasional leap seconds.)
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Or, we could just fall back and leave it there. In terms of our body clocks, it's not going to be any difference, and it would still achieve the desired ends of DST not costing any more lives every spring and autumn.
Further north, the days are already plenty long enough in the summer without pushing sunset even an hour later than it already is, and in the winter, if the clocks were still pushed ahead, the sun wouldn't even be up in these places until after 9am. Sure, the extra hour of daylight in the w
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What we *COULD* do is have everyone south of about 45 degrees on DST year 'round, and everyone north of it on standard time year 'round.
Or just redraw the time zones so they include more northwest areas and less northeast areas.
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The argument against is more light in the morning - we "fall back" and suddenly it gets dark (round here at least) at 4pm, but... its light at 8am. If we kept DST all year round, it would be light at 5pm, but it would still be dark at 8am.
Originally the extra light in the morning was to help farmers who get up early (IIRC), but today its more about the commute. the morning commute is already pretty scary, now imagine all those drivers shouting at each other, still drowsy, hung over, etc, but driving along i
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That's fine except for the more northern areas... where the sun already stays out later in the summer anyways. Keeping it year 'round would mean that the sun wouldn't even rise until after 9am in the winter in the areas that are further north.
And of course, places as far north as Alaska wouldn't even need the sun to be out an extra hour in the summer anyways.
I'd rather it be standard time year 'round, personally, but I'd settle for splitting the difference.
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Makes sense to me, it's not really convenient to switch forth and back all the time.
But I will still get up at 05:00 in the morning to avoid traffic congestion when getting to work.
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>"Daylight Saving Time is a great idea. Ditching it in the winter is the problem. Just keep it year round and eliminate the stupid changing."
+1000
This. It should just never stop being summer time. Problem solved.
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The idea of ditching it int he winter is to return some daylight to the morning. I think it was originally for farmers, but nowadays I'd rather they had light for the morning commute rather than the evening one - drowsy, miserable morning drivers going to work in the dark... what could go wrong?!
So yes, but keep the standard time all year round instead. So what if we turn the lights on instead of having daylight at 10pm? Lighting today is a lot more energy efficient than the past.
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But why would we keep the DST? All that other stuff should be rescheduled an hour later. If you want schools to go with the later time, then have them start at 9:30 instead of 8:30, and have kids activities start an hour later. Have businesses start an hour later than they currently do, and have lunch breaks an hour later. You get the same thing without having to lie with clocks.
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I'm of the opposite opinion. Keep standard time year round. Leave the meridian at noon. Otherwise AM and PM have no meaning.
You are aware that almost nowhere the actual meridian is at 12:00? Abolish time zones altogether!
EU law (Score:1)
I was not aware there was an EU law on daylight saving.
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It's harmonised to make trade easier. All countries charge on the same day, although they still have their own timezones.
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Is it harmonized in the sense that you have to do it? Or in the sense that if you do it you must do it on these dates?
I can remember when the UK wasn't in alignment, you you'd be on the same time as Paris for a week at one end, and out by two at the other. And now, thanks to Nigel Farage we'll be able to do it again! That'll stick it to the boche!
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it would be difficult to be the only state not observing it.
Why would it be difficult? More than 150 states are not harmonized with EU and they seem to do fine.
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At least that should be made simple by software. The meeting time should be UTC in the database, and both the client making, and the client receiving the meeting data should handle the conversions.
On the other hand, the synchronisation between Outlook and Sharepoint doesn's even handle DST correctly. When we tried that, our team birthdays wound up being from 23:00 to 23:00 in one half of a year.
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Why would it be difficult? More than 150 states are not harmonized with EU and they seem to do fine.
That is because it mostly only matters when you are dealing with someone close.
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When I deal with Germany or the UK it is a different matter. Then I known that if I put the order in before 16pm on their time they will have it packed the same day so I can get it delivered to me the next day.
You know what's odd about that story? Germany and the UK are one hour apart.
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Know what's odd about you? You can't see the phrase "their time".
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that's interesting - because if member states do not have to have it, why is Lithuania not just scrapping it regardless. Having been to Lithuania (great place BTW, go try their beer) they still have more in common with Russia, which has its own ideas about DST, so I doubt it really matters that Lithuania would be disadvantaged by not being compliant.
maybe its one of those "you don't have to do as we say as long as you do as we say" rules the EU has :-)
Oh gezz - not AGAIN (Score:3)
Remember the Java DST bug?
How about the SWIFT hiccup when the time change got applied backwards.
Or how much it costs to update ever single time zone file on every computer in the world.
I am not advocating for or against DST - I'm advocating for pick you're poison and stick with it. Changing it and mucking around with it is expensive, consumes time I should be spending solving other problems, and is annoying.
Re: Oh gezz - not AGAIN (Score:2)
If you could get all countries to drop it it would save big in software development over time.
Re:Oh gezz - not AGAIN (Score:4, Interesting)
I don't remember that bug but I do remember management making us test everything extensively when DST was changed in the US to a different schedule. And they were right to make us test it too, but everything worked - except for the 3rd party software that was used for timeclocks which fortunately wasn't my problem.
Somehow telling hourly workers in the fall that they would get repaid for that extra hour when we "sprung forward" in the spring wasn't acceptable. Imagine that.
But when I think about all the time and effort that goes into implementing and testing DST schemes as well as time zones I can't help but imagine it is a huge drain on the world's economy (not to mention the health effects).
Even when I lived in Arizona I wasn't immune to this nonsense. The mantra was that if people on the East Coast were at their desks by 8 AM (eastern time) I either had to be at the office by 6 AM or 5 AM depending on whether DST was in effect or not.
You mean I have to get up an hour earlier because THEY changed THEIR clocks? Goddammit.
TBH, I'm not even sure if DST is during the summer or the winter. Others have suggested it before and I know it sounds radical but I'd be in favor of everyone adopting UTC or Coordinated Universal Time as well as adopting 24 hour clocks. For me, sunrise would be at 14:27 today. I can live with that. Everyone in the whole world could at least agree on the time!
The sun rising at 14:27 is no more strange a concept than the fact that Australia and other countries in the Southern Hemisphere are going to celebrate Christmas in the middle of summer.
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A couple of years ago I was frustrated because I was doing a phone interview for a position in Central Time being handled by a recruiter in Eastern Time while I live in Mountain Time.
It's like they had no concept of time zones.
"Your interview is at 1 PM."
"Okay, is that my time, your time or the interviewer's time?"
He seemed annoyed that I asked. Shouldn't it have been obvious? I'm curious what time zone others would guess was right if faced with that.
A small sign of sanity ... (Score:1)
... in an out of control world.
Clearly what we need is a compromise (Score:5, Funny)
Here's my proposed compromise: Keep the "fall back", but get rid of the "spring forward". Sure, it might take some getting used to, but I'm sure we'd manage it sometime over the next 24 years or so.
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Here's the scoop: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daylight_saving_time
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Wonderful hatefact from a tribal chief (Score:2)
“Only a white man would believe you could cut a foot off the top of a blanket, sew it to the bottom, and have a longer blanket.”
Daylight saving time does strike you as something that only a progressive era, white intellectual could think of rather than something simpler like changing school schedules.
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“Only a white man would believe you could cut a foot off the top of a blanket, sew it to the bottom, and have a longer blanket.”
The sewing exercise would be pointless, but shifting the blanket could be worthwhile if it reduced heat loss...
Good luck with that (Score:2)
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Ever been in Paris?
Or Berlin?
Removing DST will not change a jota on shopping or restaurant habbits.
Status quo bias (Score:2)
It just brings confusion into our lives and adds complexity to computer systems.
People are obliged to repeat trillions of times "do not forget to change time tomorrow" for no rational reason, but just because populists are afraid to change anything due to the Status quo bias https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... [wikipedia.org]
Get rid of wintertime, then (Score:3, Insightful)
I find summertime to be much more pleasant anyway. But joke's on them: after the last switch to wintertime I never changed my hours. So now I go to work at 7:30, instead of 8:30. Sure, it's still dark, but at least I get to go home in daylight... Unlike the official time zone, which would have me arrive in the office and go home in the dark.
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That's the problem. I already do this. My partner wishes she could do this. Not all of us can arbitrarily chose our work times.
Changing timetables (Score:2)
Policies should be based on evidence (Score:3, Insightful)
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So annoying (Score:2)
... most people find it annoying to have to adjust their clocks twice a year.
Set your clocks ahead one hour, then six months later set them back - so annoying.
Thankfully, there are so many other things we get to do way more often.
They'd be better off (Score:1)
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Agricultural societies don't give a damn what the clock says and operate when it gets light out and go home when it's dark.
It was only intoduced again after the oil-crisis (Score:2)
Because some people claim that there is some vague energy saving aspect to it.... which has never actually materialized.
France was the first EU country to introduce it in 1976 and Swiss was the last one in 1981. There were earlier attempts at it, but those were luckily only short lived.
Finnish parliament (Score:2)
recently voted in favour of the same, after a citizen initiative. For years there has been a general argument that there's nothing Finland can do, since the EU dictates everything, and not following their rules would make us look really bad. But now we're finally pushing the issue via our MEPs.
I guess it makes it easier to work with timezones when all EU countries switch at the same time. However, to really harmonize things, why not have UTC (or possibly Central European time) across all EU? We only have
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However, to really harmonize things, why not have UTC (or possibly Central European time) across all EU? We only have something like 3 adjacent timezones anyway, and natural solar time has already been ruined by summer time.
Two clocks are useful to everyone on the planet who goes outside. One is UTC, with no DST. The other is delta from sunrise. A smartphone can give you that.
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UTC has no DST anyway.
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Because it is inconvenient for the people living in the eastern and western zone.
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Because it is inconvenient for the people living in the eastern and western zone.
Spain lies almost entirely West of Greenwich, yet it uses CET. There are probably other examples, but this one is pretty obvious when you look at maps of Europe.
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Yes, and? ...
Portugal uses GMT
Personal time (Score:1)
We have the technology for every individual to keep personalised local time, just like we used to with sundials and local time for every village - midday is when the sun is at its highest for me. And we have the technology to make that work and do all the coordination stuff. It just involves some good hard analysis to work it all out to make it work. All of your undoubted objections are just a list of things to analyse and work out. It ca be done!
And imagine the continuous wave of new year's eve fireworks a
My cat (Score:2)
It was December 17th when my cat finally stopped getting mad that dinner was suddenly an hour later.
Yes, pleeeease. (Score:1)
Re:Reaction from most slashdot readers (Score:5, Funny)
Slashdot readers are pretty educated, if only because we know that's where Lithium batteries come from.
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If you think slashdot readers are especially stupid (a not unreasonable observation) you have not had much contact with the broader population.
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you have not had much contact with the broader population.
Everyone should be required to work in retail, similar to how the Israelis compel military service. Nothing got me through enginerding school like the motivation of my retail experience. ~
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Shows what you know then. They only have the hottest women of all of Europe.
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50%: what, Lithuania is a country? other 50%: what, Lithuania is in Europe?
No, it was a British ocean liner [wikipedia.org] sunk by q German submarine in World War I.
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That's only applicable for US readers. European readers will instead consider other aspects of Lithuania.
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You're showing a complete disregard for the complicated history of the Baltic region. Which has me assuming that your American.
Yes, the Baltic states were part of the Soviet Union. But not by choice.
Historically, the Baltic states are closer to central Europe then to Russia, and after the end of the Soviet Union they realigned with western Europe and are members of the EU and NATO.
So no, they're not "covertly meddling in the affairs of other countries". Quite the opposite. They are in constant danger of Rus
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Gee, why not go on quadruple savings time then? You can have the sun out until 1AM!!
Or you could simply admit that DST is just a silly attempt at self-deception to get ourselves to do things earlier. If we want to do things in the sun after work, we need to go to work early and get out of work early. Lying to ourselves about the time is one of the most ridiculous ways imaginable to try to do this.
12 noon should be left as close as possible to true solar noon.
In future years, the idea that the government man
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Bingo.
Unfortunately, I am somewhat skeptical of most people's ability, particularly those in power that would legislate on the matter, to think rationally enough to come to that conclusion.
After all, it's so much more fun to make laws based on what "feels right", isn't it?
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Gee, why not go on quadruple savings time then? You can have the sun out until 1AM!!
Because there are only 24 hours in a day Because that isn't the point of DST.
Or you could simply admit that DST is just a silly attempt at self-deception to get ourselves to do things earlier
No, it is an attempt to allow people to have daylight while they are doing work. This requires working within the fact that in most places, daylight is many hours longer in the summer than in the winter. During early spring before we move to DST, it is getting daylight at 4 AM. The concept that we're supposed to adapt to the local day night cycle of every place on earth just substitutes a much more complicated adjustment then thin
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> Just please stop bringing up this discussion every couple of months.
wat?