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Congress Opens Probe Into FBI's Handling of Clinton Email Investigation (arstechnica.com) 390

An anonymous reader quotes a report from Ars Technica: Two House committees announced Tuesday that they would conduct a joint probe into the FBI's handling of the Clinton e-mail investigation. The Clinton investigation concluded with no charges being levied against the former secretary of state who was running for president under the Democratic ticket. House Oversight and Government Reform Committee Chairman Trey Gowdy (R-S.C.) and House Judiciary Committee Chairman Bob Goodlatte (R-Va.) said in a joint statement that they are unsatisfied with how the probe into Clinton's private e-mail server concluded. Among other things, the chairmen want to know why the bureau publicly said it was investigating Clinton while keeping silent that it was looking into President Donald Trump's campaign associates and their connections to Russia.

"Our justice system is represented by a blind-folded woman holding a set of scales. Those scales do not tip to the right or the left; they do not recognize wealth, power, or social status," Goodlatte and Gowdy said in a joint statement. "The impartiality of our justice system is the bedrock of our republic, and our fellow citizens must have confidence in its objectivity, independence, and evenhandedness. The law is the most equalizing force in this country. No entity or individual is exempt from oversight."

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Congress Opens Probe Into FBI's Handling of Clinton Email Investigation

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  • by Altus ( 1034 )

    The 4 dead service members from last week and the absolute cluster fuck that resulted in their deaths... but at least we are on top of this... thank god.

    • Re: (Score:2, Funny)

      by barc0001 ( 173002 )

      > The 4 dead

      Thanks for the reminder! They better open another investigation into Benghazi!

    • by amiga3D ( 567632 ) on Tuesday October 24, 2017 @05:28PM (#55426747)

      We've got hundreds of special forces troops running around in Niger. Some of them got caught in an ambush and fought their way out of it losing 4 team members. It's not a fucking video game. People make mistakes and people die. I don't know if you know this or not but Trump doesn't go on those missions. It was a routine mission and likely the first anyone in the administration knew about it was when they found out 4 soldiers were killed. I served in the eighties and we had people die from training exercises or just working. Turning 18 year old guys loose with heavy equipment can lead to that. One rolled an off road fork lift, one electrocuted, one rolled a 2 1/2 ton truck. It's dangerous work even when people aren't shooting at you. It's the fucking military. Check out how many Sailors die every cruise.

  • Hrm.... (Score:3, Insightful)

    by Kierthos ( 225954 ) on Tuesday October 24, 2017 @03:45PM (#55426031) Homepage

    One wonder if Gowdy will manage to show up for more than 20% of the witness testimony this time. Or is he just going to implicitly acknowledge that this is a gigantic waste of time and money, and serves as nothing other than a distraction from what a colossal clusterfuck the Trump presidency has been thus far?

    • Re: (Score:2, Funny)

      by godrik ( 1287354 )

      How dare you compare clusterfucks to the Trum administration!? Clusterfucks are insulted!

    • Trump is more than happy that you complain his administration is a clusterfuck. because it keeps you and the other sheeple ignorant as to real changes he is making.

      I say that as an outsider to both parties, able to see when the Democrats are clearly being snookered and going down a really bad path.

      Speaking of wondering about such an investigation, one "wonders" if the investigation will do anything about the FBI director drafting orders to clear Hillary months before the investigation was over [ussanews.com]...

      That is the

      • because it keeps you and the other sheeple ignorant as to real changes he is making.

        Ah, yes. The "Trump is really an 11th-dimensional chess wizard" argument. That kind of cognitive dissonance must be a real bitch to maintain.
        • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

          by SuperKendall ( 25149 )

          Trump doesn't have to be anything other than mildly clever to simply get a few things done while people like you call him a monster because he tweets and you all react like the pavlovian dogs you all seem to want to be.

          I think it utterly hilarious that people claim, in the same breath, that Trump has a huge ego and cares what others think. How many egotistical people do YOU know that give a rats ass what YOU think about them? None. So he smiles when you call him names and signs another order dismantling

      • Democrats (the party committee) still think they are going to do well next election by doing the same things again. I dont know why that is. Its really hard to comprehend.
  • by xzelldx ( 735818 ) on Tuesday October 24, 2017 @03:47PM (#55426041)
    You keep doing it, ad infinitum.
  • Trump's Benghazi (Score:2, Insightful)

    by Anonymous Coward
    We need independent prosecutor to gather evidence to convict trump of gross negligence and Treason by essentially allowing the slaughter of US service members in Niger. Impeachment is simply not enough for negligence of this magnitude, we need to see serious and long term jail time. Not even a year in, and multiple impeachable offenses and convictable crimes. OMG.
  • Bone spurs (Score:3, Insightful)

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 24, 2017 @04:01PM (#55426145)

    If itâ(TM)s ok to investigate Obama over his birth certificate.. an offense allegedly and speculated to have been committed decades ago, why canâ(TM)t we investigate Trumpâ(TM)s draft dodging? Last I checked draft dodging was a crime. Some other guy had to go die in Vietnam because Trump paid his way out of the draft. Anyway at the very least we should investigate how bone spurs can disappear over time. You never know, Trump might get the Nobel prize for medicine for such a discovery.

  • what a load (Score:5, Insightful)

    by cmdr_klarg ( 629569 ) on Tuesday October 24, 2017 @04:03PM (#55426161)

    The impartiality of our justice system is the bedrock of our republic, and our fellow citizens must have confidence in its objectivity, independence, and evenhandedness. The law is the most equalizing force in this country. No entity or individual is exempt from oversight.

    LOL
    *snort*

    That ranks up there as one of the biggest piles of unadulterated bullshit I've ever seen. I don't care which tribe you subscribe to, everyone should realize that our justice system is anything but evenhanded or impartial.

    • The impartiality of our justice system is the bedrock of our republic, and our fellow citizens must have confidence in its objectivity, independence, and evenhandedness. The law is the most equalizing force in this country. No entity or individual is exempt from oversight.

      LOL
      *snort*

      That ranks up there as one of the biggest piles of unadulterated bullshit I've ever seen. I don't care which tribe you subscribe to, everyone should realize that our justice system is anything but evenhanded or impartial.

      It's bullshit, but not for the reason you think. All of this talk about impartiality, objectivity, independence, blah blah blah, is an excuse for re-opening Hillary stuff in order to distract from investigations the current POTUS is facing.

    • by Shark ( 78448 )

      Glen Greenwald (of Snowden fame) gave a pretty enlightening talk at Yale on that very topic, for those interested:
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?... [youtube.com]

  • by Archtech ( 159117 ) on Tuesday October 24, 2017 @04:13PM (#55426245)

    "Those scales do not tip to the right or the left; they do not recognize wealth, power, or social status".

    Ha ha, very funny. Of course they don't! The rich, powerful, and politically connected always get EXACTLY the same treatment as the poor from the justice system.

    Being on good social term with the judge, the DA, or the Attorney General could never do an accused person the slightest good. And the prosecution would be just as likely to frame up a wealthy, influential political donor as the lowest miscreant.

    Yes, folks, thank goodness it's a government of laws, not persons!

    • And even when the scales do tip in the correct direction, you get a shitfuck president like Trump who will pardon pieces of shit like Arpaio.
  • by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 24, 2017 @04:22PM (#55426305)

    "I could stand in the middle of fifth avenue and shoot someone, and people would still vote for me."

    Yes, Trump fuckers. I will post this delightfull quote from your beloved peodophile in chief every chance I get, or untill I'm IP banned.

    And downmodding me to hell won't change the fact that you knowingly, freely, and willfully elected for president a man who thinks that you're all fucking morons, and told you to your face.

  • Correct Title is "Trey Gowdy, having no evidence of any crimes, desperate to change the current subject before Congress ie treason in the Trump Campaign, demands an EIGHTH chance at Hillary.
    • Re:Wrong Title (Score:4, Interesting)

      by eaglesrule ( 4607947 ) on Tuesday October 24, 2017 @06:47PM (#55427103)

      Destruction of evidence and lying to congress is considered to be criminal acts, and there seems to be an increasingly amount of evidence of that occurring. The immunity deals, the refusing to seize laptops as evidence, the allowing key witnesses to attend Clinton's unrecorded 'interview', needs to be examined under greater scrutiny. Of course the biggest question is why he declared the decision to not press for indictment occurred at the end of the investigation, and not months prior as the internal memo seems to indicate.

      Maybe if we're lucky, we'll get another outburst of "We're not weasels!" from Mr.Comey after his mask of false sincerity begins to crack under pressure.

  • "Our justice system is represented by a blind-folded woman holding a set of scales. Those scales do not tip to the right or the left; they do not recognize wealth, power, or social status," Goodlatte and Gowdy said in a joint statement. "The impartiality of our justice system is the bedrock of our republic, and our fellow citizens must have confidence in its objectivity, independence, and evenhandedness. The law is the most equalizing force in this country. No entity or individual is exempt from oversight."

    And the award for Best Comedy of All Time goes to...

  • by alabica ( 5129817 ) on Tuesday October 24, 2017 @05:20PM (#55426699) Homepage
    This is yet another effort in futility by the congress. They are spending too much time and resources on probes against one and another. They need to be discussing the economy and how to create even more jobs, compete with China and a few others countries that are threatening to overtake the US in terms of global economic domination.
  • by mysidia ( 191772 ) on Tuesday October 24, 2017 @05:22PM (#55426711)

    What happened to the government Of the people, For the people, by the people, with the Rule of law and justice and faithful execution over all politics as the commanding principle for all officials and government employees?

    We are now probing investigations, because the investigation might have been done improperly.

    How long before we have to investigate the investigation of the investigation?

    OR how about a probe of the investigation of the investigation of the investigation of the investigation of X.

    FINALLY how about an infinitely recursive investigation? We'll do an investigation of A and B, and investigation of the investigation of A and B, and the investigation of all potential investigations that cover A and B.

    • by HornWumpus ( 783565 ) on Tuesday October 24, 2017 @06:18PM (#55426989)

      Answer to first question: You grew up and realized it was a fairy tale.

      Investigations only _start_ when the opposing party gets control of the process. Even then, the mutual dirt they have on each other keeps the serious stuff by the powerful out of the light of day. Like teenage kids with MAD dirt on each other, nobody is going to be the first.

      Which is why the RNC is afraid of Trump. He isn't in on it. He will send Hillary to prison, even if it ultimately sends half of DC to prison. We can only hope.

  • by steveha ( 103154 ) on Tuesday October 24, 2017 @06:09PM (#55426929) Homepage

    A common meme is: "The Republicans already tried to look into this and couldn't make anything stick. So clearly Hillary Clinton was innocent and the Republicans are just digging for dirt and hoping to find something." Variations on this have already been posted in this discussion.

    What's extraordinary here is that the Director of the FBI intervened personally on Hillary Clinton's behalf. He wrote a draft of his speech exonerating her before the FBI ever interviewed her [cnn.com]. Her aides were given broad immunity [cnn.com], which is usually used to compel people to talk[1], but then they were allowed to just say things like "I don't remember". Hillary Clinton, or someone working for her, wiped her email server after a subpoena was issued [washingtonexaminer.com] requiring her to hand it over to Congress, and there were absolutely no consequences from that. A usual FBI investigation would collect as much evidence as possible as early as possible, but that wasn't done in this case... the Anthony Weiner/Huma Abedin copies of Hillary Clinton emails were found during an investigation of Weiner [cnn.com], but they should have been found earlier. When the FBI is actually investigating they are thorough about collecting evidence. They should have grabbed every computer Hillary ever touched, and as Huma Abedin was an aide to Hillary, every computer Huma ever touched. (They could have copied the hard disks and given the computers back right away.)

    Most extraordinary of all: the Director of the FBI claimed that "no reasonable prosecutor" would prosecute Hillary Clinton as no proof of ill intent was found, yet the laws she broke do not require intent but only require proof of mishandling of data.

    ...prosecutors are not required to prove motive. [...] Clinton could have been prosecuted either for willfully mishandling classified information or for doing so through gross negligence.

    http://www.nationalreview.com/article/447209/hillary-clinton-e-mail-investigation-grand-jury-subpoenas [nationalreview.com]

    Consider what happened to David Petraeus [wikipedia.org]. He was guilty, but what he did wasn't even a tenth as serious as what Hillary Clinton did. But the Director of the FBI didn't whitewash the investigation for him, so his career was over. (By the way, he didn't go to prison, so he still got better treatment than the "little people" would get. Consider the case of Bryan H. Nishimura [fbi.gov]. I would say that what Nishimura did wasn't even a thousandth as serious as what Hillary Clinton did, but he was treated much more harshly than she was. Note that he wasn't charged with any "intent", just the mishandling of data.)

    I'm pretty sure that if a member of the Trump administration mishandles classified data, he or she won't get the special treatment that Hillary Clinton got. But the Democrats will get a President elected again sometime in the future and I would like to get a precedent established that the laws apply to Democrats as much as to Trump and his staff. I know that the law is not enforced perfectly even-handedly in this country (or any country in the real world) but I am appalled at the epic whitewashing done on behalf of Hillary Clinton to protect

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