The Mayweather-McGregor Fight Shows It's Impossible to Stop Social Media Streaming of Big Events (vice.com) 88
An anonymous reader shares a report: Nearly 3 million viewers are estimated to have watched the fight this weekend via online streams, according to Irdeto, a digital security firm. Though many of these were slick, traditional streaming websites, there was also a new surge in social streams. Between Periscope, Instagram live, Facebook live, YouTube, Twitch, and smaller platforms like Kodi, Irdeto identified 239 streams of the fight over the weekend. And with the option to have private, share-with-just-your-friends streams (like private Facebook Live feeds), it's likely there are many more streams of the fight that were running than Irdeto wasn't able to track. Social media livestreaming has exploded in recent years, creating a whole new avenue for illegal sharing. In 2015, when Mayweather squared off against Manny Pacquiao in another much-anticipated fight, Periscope was only two months' old. Facebook and Instagram's live feed functions were still a year away. Now, they're as ubiquitous as the platforms that host them. Plus, with every smartphone now equipped with a high definition camera, most homes connected to high-speed internet, and the ease of streamable services on already-familiar social media sites, it's no wonder there was such a torrent of pirated feeds.
Watched on Twitch (Score:1)
They took down a few streams but I had 6 queued up so no problem.
Only an idiot would pay 100 bucks for a boxing match.
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Re: Watched on Twitch (Score:2)
*cough*
The only other viewer, at my house, was my dog. He was largely uninterested and the girlfriend was entirely uninterested. $100 isn't that much money. You should have seen my coke budget from a few years ago. Now that was a waste of money.
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only an idiot watches 2 men beat each other up for money
Re: Watched on Twitch (Score:1)
I'm an idiot.
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Boxing fans - I guess we're the new deplorables.
panem et circenses (Score:2)
I am very surprised this wasn't free.
Remember kids, Panem Et Circenses.
Those who dont study history are doomed to repeat it (no, thats not the translation, for those who cannot be bothered thinking..)
175 million to punch someone (Score:5, Insightful)
There is something disappointing that punching someone earns 2 people $175 million dollars. Shame we dont have as much enthusiasm for Nobel laureates as we do for sports and the oscars.
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Sort of like novel writing (Score:2)
There is something disappointing that punching someone earns 2 people $175 million dollars. Shame we dont have as much enthusiasm for Nobel laureates as we do for sports and the oscars.
It would probably end up like novel writing [youtube.com].
Re:175 million to punch someone (Score:4, Insightful)
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Two people punching each other has some entertainment value. I'm not sure what, but apparently plenty of people are willing to pay $100 to watch that.
It's a combination of things:
- appealing your primitive emotions (watching members of the same species smashing each other is a strong enabler);
- forbidding you from experiencing the same event personally, with the exceptions of some very specific places and people (aka "creating scarcity");
- making this a rare enough event (aka "creating more scarcity")
- making you believe you want to watch it (ads, commercials, more ads, more commercials)
- peer pressure ("all my friends watch it, I should too, otherwise t
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Before I was married I found my girls in metal clubs. I rarely drink and never did drugs.
Now that I'm married and have kids, even metal clubs are a thing of the past.
But married or not, I never was able to enjoy that kind of weird combination of things you mentioned. I think I'm just a hippie who had the misfortune of being born 3 decades too late.
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"It's not about what we value more... but about how much money the public will pay for watching you do your stuff."
Uh huh.
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Well, people do pay money for classes (Score:2)
Shame we dont have as much enthusiasm for Nobel laureates as we do for sports and the oscars.
Well, people do pay large sums of money for the privilege of attending their classes, regurgitating what they said, and working with them. Yes, there's certification at the end of it, but the value of that degree comes in part from the reputation of said collection of intellectuals.
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There is something disappointing that punching someone earns 2 people $175 million dollars. Shame we dont have as much enthusiasm for Nobel laureates as we do for sports and the oscars.
You get two Nobel laureates in the ring for a no-holds-barred punch-up, and I'm sure you'll find lots of people willing to pay to watch :D.
Yaz
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Everybody can understand the value of punching (Score:2)
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It's not so bad. It's a proper sporting event, even if it's a weird novelty match. Yes, it's a violent contact sport, but I have no issue with that.
I'm not disheartened to see it receive so much attention. It's a good deal better than the vacuous garbage they normally print in the tabloids, or show on crapholes like msn.com.
Kodi is not a streaming platform (Score:5, Informative)
Why must reporters be so completely incompetent? Kodi is a media player. It is not a "social streaming service" by any stretch of the imagination. It is best compared to a *web browser*. Are people blaming Chrome and Firefox for online streaming? I don't think they are. Do some fucking research!
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Firefox and Chrome have many other common legitimate uses. Kodi is generally used for piracy and serves no purpose other than streaming. There's a big difference no matter how butthurt you trolls get about it.
Butthurt or not, what you said was stupid. The typical Kodi user probably has never even used it to stream even once. There are plugins to allow that, but Kodi is pretty damn nice for just playing video files.
1. YHBT.
2. I'd like to see the numbers on that. I would not be surprised if the inadvertent Kodi users who simply purchased a magic black box on the internets or at a flea market now outnumber the intentional ones who want to play legimate format-shifted copies of media to which they have a license.
You probably ought to try out more pirating. Once you do, you'll quickly start to think of streaming as a niche case. "Sports" might be the only thing where you'd ever be willing to forgo the nicer performance of playing local files.
Most people are able to appreciate high-resolution video, but most people also seem to be willing to put up with low-resolution video. Even 480p carries a stunning amount of detail compared to the VHS crap that w
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In the UK streaming is better quality than broadcast TV. Broadcast HD streams are only 1440x1080 resolution, and the standard chosen only supports up to 30p as well. The compression is terrible too.
In comparison YouTube has better resolution and average bitrate, and Netflix is in another league.
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Well, I've never streamed a HD broadcast in the USA, but my understanding is that there's quite a bit of variation in bitrates, such that some stations are better than internet streaming, and some are worse.
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So wrong. Kodi is used to play media and it can come from anywhere. iTunes can be used to play pirated music or legitimately purchased music, all at the discretion of the user.
Re: Kodi is not a streaming platform (Score:4, Interesting)
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Firefox and Chrome have many other common legitimate uses. Kodi is generally used for piracy and serves no purpose other than streaming. There's a big difference no matter how butthurt you trolls get about it.
What the hell are you talking about? I've used XBMC (now Kodi) since it was on the Xbox. The original. I have numerous media players in the house (Kodi) and I've never once streamed a single thing with them. Kodi serves plenty of other purposes than streaming.
$100 (Score:2)
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This. I'm a huge boxing fan, and even used every penny of what I had saved to that point in my life to see Muhammad Ali's last fight in Nassau. I still refused to pay the large price to see this fight. I waited to see the highlights on the news. Boxing is killing itself by excluding casual fans. It's the casual fans that become hard-core fans. Everyone in the country talked about Ali and later Tyson. Their fights were national events that became a part of the American culture. Now, only the few hard
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Also, I thought it was already included if one subscribes to Showtime on cable TV too when I checked on CATurday evening/night. Lame!
was this 'pun intended' ? (Score:1)
'pun intended' ? mmm, couldn't resist.... how appropriate.
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Why would you want to? (Score:5, Interesting)
That's what these events are. They are a place for the wealthy, the well to do, and the well connected to show off. This is conspicuous consumption writ large. If you are the person putting this boxing match together, you want people to show up and show that they're present because that's how you get people to go the next time.
Used to be you'd have to have the camera swing over the stands and maybe send a few people with a mic down to interview a few choice people who agreed to ahead of time. Now? Now, they do it all for you. Maybe you have to send a few official invites out, maybe comp a few tickets but otherwise, social media doing all of this is the stuff of dreams for promoters.
The only people who hate the steaming are those who haven't figured out a way to profit off of it yet.
Also that non muilt-cast streming sucks (Score:3)
Also that non multi-cast streaming sucks.
... and very few would have payed even without (Score:2)
Once again the topic of piracy and an article's implied reasoning that each illegal stream took directly away from revenue. It's been discussed for well over a decade now, and I'm still convinced that true fans and people who can pay for some form of entertainment do so, even considering illegal alternatives.
Likewise, those with merely a passing interest in a form of entertainment and only participate in that form of entertainment if they can do so free, would not pay ever, even if there were no other way
illegal sharing my ass (Score:1)
How is that any different than having a few friends to sit in front of a screen?
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How is that any different than having a few friends to sit in front of a screen?
I thought that too was illegal now...
Nearly 3 Million watched the fight (Score:2)
and at least 1 billion did not watched the fight and maybe 0.25 million knew about the fight only because it was streamed.
Although it's not sourced, they should know the publicity of the fight is pretty limited to their region (USA). If not for the streaming network, a lot of people wouldn't even know they exist.