China To Implement Cyber Security Law From Thursday (reuters.com) 59
China, battling increased threats from cyber-terrorism and hacking, will adopt from Thursday a controversial law that mandates strict data surveillance and storage for firms working in the country, the official Xinhua news agency said. From a report: The law, passed in November by the country's largely rubber-stamp parliament, bans online service providers from collecting and selling users' personal information, and gives users the right to have their information deleted, in cases of abuse. "Those who violate the provisions and infringe on personal information will face hefty fines," the news agency said on Monday, without elaborating.
Re: "the right to have their information deleted" (Score:1)
You know it. It's like when Facebook says it can take up to two weeks to delete a profile. Of course, so they can go through all your stuff to make sure you're not hiding and get an archived copy to pass around.
Enforcement (Score:3)
Re: Enforcement (Score:5, Insightful)
China has a very easy way: play ball or don't do business here. They understand that whatever you're offering, someone else is more than willing to fill the gap, there is no such thing as a company they can't survive without.
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China has a very easy way: play ball or don't do business here.
Obviously. I was wondering how China would gather evidence about companies complying. Will the government enforce daily scans of every companies entire data store?
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No need, the Chinese governments has enough informants. They gave up to $70k cash to citizens that inform the government about US spying within their country and in a few years they got 20 CIA operatives killed.
It's also clearly evident when someone is spying on you and selling data online, this sort of thing would effectively remove any targeted advertising in China, and without targeted advertising, the data is worthless.
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You say that like only communist governments consider themselves above the law.
Which is worse: Being able to delete your information BUT the government keeps a copy, or being unable to delete your information AND the government keeps a copy?
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So true. In the US right now we have no privacy from private companies or the government. It's mostly illegal for the government to spy on us, but they keep getting caught doing it anyways with no punishment for anyone involved.
Now, in China it will be illegal for private companies to spy on people, although they will probably do it anyways. The government spies on people, but they don't hide that fact at all.
Which is better?
What is going to happen to popular spyware products in China? Windows 10, Androi
Mainly it sounds GREAT (Score:2)
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how can we spin this to make trump look bad?
There is hardly any need to do that, since he is doing it so well. Seriously, hearing him in a public speech, saying '...no president in history has been as badly as me...' had me in stitches. I didn't know whether to laugh or cry - and this is supposedly the leader of the free world? What did he expect - that people would line the streets, waving palm-fronds and singing 'hosannah' wherever he went? Compare to other political leaders - Obama was reviled in obscene ways by the right-wing outlets in America,
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Wimp? Gee, what gave it away, that he weenied out to the Saudis or is ceding the Pacific basin to the Chinese?
Hi modus operandi (to put lipstick on a pig) is to loudly proclaim just about any good thing is about to happen through his auspices. When one or two of them do (out of sheer happenstance) he takes credit. All the rest of his waffle is forgotten because when you shovel as much as he does, no one can be arsed to keep track of it all.
I like the report in the Wash. Post where they say he likes his secu
Boo China (Score:2)
whaaaa (Score:5, Insightful)
China treating privacy with more respect than most western countries... what a time to be alive
Re:whaaaa (Score:4, Informative)
personal data + analytics = power (Score:2)
In the West, whoever can afford to buy your data and sufficient analytics and brains/AI to watch the campaign feedback are probably the next government.
The Chinese government have realised this, and are trying to make sure that data isn't available (commercially) for their individual citizens. They see it as a significant risk to their establishment I'd guess. I hope the EU countries pass similar laws.
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... otherwise it'll be the effective end of their democracies and government by the rich and powerful (who will make sure that the majority of the public believe the opposite is what's actually happened).
They want the exclusive right (Score:2)
China deserves +1 insightful (Score:2)
So China implemented the law that Trump so recently repealed? Sounds like China is the place to be for next 4 years.
Now where did I put my smokediver suit...
something better (Score:2)
Still haven't learned from history (Score:2)
(see subject of this post)
The harder they try, the harder they'll fail. History repeats itself and will continue to do so ad infinitum.