Supreme Court Considers When US Patent Violations Are 'Induced' Abroad (arstechnica.com) 31
The US Supreme Court today will take up a case that will determine how much help an overseas manufacturer can get from the U.S. without running afoul of US patent laws. From a report on ArsTechnica: The case originates in a dispute between two competitors in the field of genetic testing. Both Promega Corporation and Life Technologies (selling through its Applied Biosciences brand) make DNA testing kits that can be used in a variety of fields, including forensic identification, paternity testing, medical treatment, and research. Promega licensed several patents to Applied Biosystems that allowed its competitor to sell kits for use in "Forensics and Human Identity Applications." The license forbade sales for clinical or research uses. In 2010, Promega filed a lawsuit in federal court, saying that Life Technologies had "engaged in a concerted effort to sell its kits into unlicensed fields," thus infringing its patents. A Wisconsin federal jury found that Life Tech had willfully infringed and should pay $52 million in damages. But the district judge overseeing the case set aside that verdict after trial, ruling that since nearly all of the Life Tech product had been assembled and shipped from outside the US, the product wasn't subject to US patent laws.
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OK, couple things:
Imagine that - more votes counted than ballots cast in DEMOCRAT-controlled areas of Michigan.
Nowhere in the article does it say which number was higher: votes or ballots.
But let's suppose your assumption is correct. Is there any possible explanation given in the article?
"He blamed the discrepancies on the city’s decade-old voting machines, saying 87 optical scanners broke on Election Day. Many jammed when voters fed ballots into scanners, which can result in erroneous vote counts if ballots are inserted multiple times. Poll workers are supposed to adjust counters to reflect
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"I think there's a term for that, and it might rhyme with "voter suppression"."
By who? The city has been Democrat controlled since I lived there in the 60s. Did the Republicans come in and take over the election?
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The Michigan state house and senate are both Republican controlled. Who do you think approves the budget for new voting machines?
Michigan's aging voting machines a 'catastrophe waiting to happen' [mlive.com]
They knew about this in advance.
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The Michigan state house and senate are both Republican controlled. Who do you think approves the budget for new voting machines?
Michigan's aging voting machines a 'catastrophe waiting to happen' [mlive.com]
They knew about this in advance.
Oh, and I suppose they collude to only put the good machines outside of the city. Seriously, wtf does that have to do with voter suppression? Tin foil hat much, or do you have actual evidence you can link to?
china makes cheap knockoffs and there rules (Score:2)
china makes cheap knockoffs and there rules make so they can get away with it / the JV rule where the ownership usually is 51%-49% with the foreign firm owning the majority.
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No patent protection on tech manufactured overseas?
Different things are patentable in different countries. For instance, America allows patents on software, and DNA sequences. Many other countries do not. There are also issues of jurisdiction. In this case the infringing product was sold in the UK, so maybe it should be resolved in British courts.
Lawyer up (Score:2)
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Next time, don't listen to non-lawyers such as the above on slashdot. Forbidding worldwide sales in geographic areas not covered by the patent(s) being licensed would almost certainly be seen as anticompetitive and invalidate the entire license.
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Uh... a patent protects the market. It'd be fine for Samsung to make the devices overseas in a jurisdiction where the devices didn't infringe, as long as they didn't then import and sell them in the U.S.
Duh.
Common issue (Score:2)
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but they can say that jays small shop is willing to ship any where so they are being sold to US customers and you can't shut down jays shop it's in the only supermarket for 50 miles in the very rural area that it is in but gets a good amount of tourists in the area that want to send local stuff home (not movies).
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dude... do you even grammar?
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The patented parts of the product were not produced in the US
Um, one of them actually was. Whether that's enough to constitute infringement of Promega's U.S. patent is the exact question the Supreme Court is taking up [scotusblog.com]:
Whether the Federal Circuit erred in holding that supplying a single, commodity component of a multi-component invention from the United States is an infringing act under 35 U.S.C. 271(f)(1), exposing the manufacturer to liability for all worldwide sales.
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Patent was for a process, not any individual components.
Sorry, but that's just flat wrong. The asserted claim that gave rise to the appeal (claim 42 of U.S. Patent No. RE 37,984) is not on a process at all, but on a kit with five individual components:
Patents? (Score:1)
Isn't this a simple contractual dispute? Probably there is no such thing as a simple contractual dispute. It just doesn't seem to be about patents as it is about licensing. Look up "Apple"? Yeah yeah, trademarks, but the idea is there.
Just to clarify... (Score:5, Interesting)
A Wisconsin federal jury found that Life Tech had willfully infringed and should pay $52 million in damages. But the district judge overseeing the case set aside that verdict after trial, ruling that since nearly all of the Life Tech product had been assembled and shipped from outside the US, the product wasn't subject to US patent laws.
It's infringement under US Patent law to make, use, or sell a patented invention in the US. However, it's also infringement to import a patented invention, made elsewhere, into the US. So you can't, for example, escape liability by saying "oh, we don't manufacture in the US. We manufacture in Mexico and then heave them over Trump's wall to waiting buyers." So, something had been assembled and shipped from outside the US would still be subject to US patent laws if it was being shipped to the US.
In this case, LifeTech manufactures their kits in the UK and sells them in Europe (and elsewhere). One component of the kit is manufactured in the US and shipped from the US to the UK, and the question is whether that component brings those sales under US patent law.
So, just to clarify, the summary should be "since nearly all of the Life Tech product had been assembled and shipped from outside the US to locations outside the US, the product wasn't subject to US patent laws."
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IMHO, this is one of the most idiotic part of US patent law. US companies should be free to manufacture and ship any product to another country, irrespective of US patents.
The patents that should be applied are those in the other country at the time of import, using that country's laws.
There is no gain to the US in preventing US exports of products that are in violation of US patents. The result of this crazy law is what happened here: the products will be manufactured elsewhere and shipped to the end marke
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It's not about the patent , it's about possibly wasting the court's time over a matter that
was outside of US jurisdiction.