FBI Hacked Over 8,000 Computers In 120 Countries Based on One Warrant (vice.com) 90
Joseph Cox, reporting for Motherboard: In January, Motherboard reported on the FBI's "unprecedented" hacking operation, in which the agency, using a single warrant, deployed malware to over one thousand alleged visitors of a dark web child pornography site. Now, it has emerged that the campaign was actually several orders of magnitude larger. In all, the FBI obtained over 8,000 IP addresses, and hacked computers in 120 different countries, according to a transcript from a recent evidentiary hearing in a related case. The figures illustrate the largest ever known law enforcement hacking campaign to date, and starkly demonstrate what the future of policing crime on the dark web may look like. This news comes as the US is preparing to usher in changes that would allow magistrate judges to authorize the mass hacking of computers, wherever in the world they may be located.
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It's too dark, you can't see it without special filters.
Re:Where is this dark web, and how come I've never (Score:5, Funny)
It's like dark matter or dark energy. You can't really interact with it, but we're sure it's there because we can somehow see its effects.
Though in the end, we might find out that it's something completely different that we didn't take into account.
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You're modded funny, and it is ... but it's also completely accurate. Excellent.
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Good jokes are funny because they're true.
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Because none of it is indexed.
www.google.onion
What's the commotion? (Score:2)
They had a warrant!
At this point, that's already more than could be expected.
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Just wait 'til your daughter is really pissed 'cause you grounded her and didn't let her go to a Bieber concert...
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Are you one of them? I'm willing to argue that more than 95% of the adult population would have agreed with the authorities leveraging this kind of power to take down child pornography. As far as most are concerned, we will deal with they're abuse of power when it's not in 99% of the population's interest (and we already do).
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I can say with confidence that it was not "particularly describing the place to be searched".
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I'm fairly sure it said "the computer".
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Yes, all true, but hey, be happy with what little remains of due process and correct proceedings. At least they had a warrant. Sure, they overstepped it and it was certainly never meant to be like that (at least that would be the LESS problematic case, imagine they actually HAD a warrant that was meant to be used like that...).
I think you mean the CIA (Score:2)
The FBI, by law, is not permitted to hack computers in other countries.
If that were true, we wouldn't be in a democracy, but a plutocratic oligopoly pretending to be a democracy, living outside the Rule of Law like a Banana Republic ...
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If that were true, we wouldn't be in a democracy, but a plutocratic oligopoly pretending to be a democracy, living outside the Rule of Law like a Banana Republic ...
And this is news, how?
Re: orders of magnitude (Score:2)
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well, in binary it would be 11 orders of magnitude...
FTFY
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I think you are missing how pedantic some people can be.
I don't think "pedantic" takes a modifier. You either are or you aren't.
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I was going to mod but I must post. There are most certainly levels to the art of pedantry. I am a minor grammarian where there are true doctorate-level grammar nazis just within the walls of /..
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Is it possible to debate the definition of pedantry without also demonstrating it?
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Is it possible to debate the definition of pedantry without also demonstrating it?
And thus ends the thread. :)
Legal requirements in each of 120 countries? (Score:2)
I'm guessing "Several orders of magnitude" is intended to refer to the huge amount of additional taxpayer money necessary to break into computers in 120 countries. Not well written, but that seems to be the underlying issue.
I imagine that there are legal issues in each country. Without following the legal requirements, the FBI would break laws in each country, and there would be a huge international
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FTFY.
Why do so many people struggle with the basic idea that the margin frequently log-jams on political constraints other than funds?
Cynicism as the last refuge of the one-track mind.
OUTER SPACE!! (Score:5, Insightful)
According to the transcripts, the FBI also hacked OUTER SPACE! (check TFA, it is right there, this isn't a joke)
But because it's about CP (Score:1)
But because the warrant was about CP, nobody will want to stand against it because that would seem like he/she is supporting child abuse as opposed to supporting due-process and proper judicial oversight/responsibility.
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Can journalistic websites do basic editing? (Score:5, Informative)
deployed malware to over one thousand alleged visitors of a dark web child pornography site. Now, it has emerged that the campaign was actually several orders of magnitude larger.
several orders of magnitude... really?
Am I to believe that the FBI hacked over 1,000,000 computers? Oh wait, that's not at all what happened. Why is it that journalists and journalistic websites (people and organizations whose entire livelihood depends upon the written word) can't even perform the most basic of editing reviews? Were I an editor, such a clearly hyperbolic and improperly used statement would never have made it to publication.
Note that my gripe is not with the /. editor, but with Motherboard.
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no?
No.
Target practice. (Score:2)
it's a declaration of WAR by the USA? (Score:1)
after all, HRClinton said this during the 2016 campaign..."As President, I will make it clear that the United States will treat cyberattacks just like any other attack. We will be ready with serious political, economic, and military responses,"
glad she didn't win.
although if this is true i believe the US can't do this without asking all those countries if they can do that.
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Maybe you shouldn't do child porn?
Or better yet, harden your computer against hacking. As a side effect, it will also help when the bad guys try to hack your computer to get your bank account or credit card info as well. Seriously, the bigger story here shouldn't be the over broad warrant, but the fact that most people are using vulnerable computers. I'm less concerned about the FBI getting a warrant to hack my computer as I am concerned about the fact that my computer is vulnerable to hacking in the first place.
OK (Score:2)
Is the US now again at it or still at it - playing World Police?
Do those laws valid in the US spread out into the whole world?
Or, the other way around, there are countries where some simple things are penalized with death penalty, would those laws over the wire spread as well to here in the same way and then, when one travels there, applied?
Seems people got nothing better to do than abusing whatever is available to them without any reflections on consequences...
And when Russian Hacks the FBI... (Score:2)
They can claim they were just looking for child porn....
Of which we know the FBI keeps a huge stash of....
Turn it off (Score:2)
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That was the great fear of the GCHQ going back years. The question of the US, FBI and NSA using their tracking ability and having years of perfect clandestine methods exposed in open US courts.
Now that reality of observation and tracking vs interesting people not risking the "internet" is becoming more real.
For years the NSA, GCHQ and FBI could have watched vast criminal networks online and ga
no wrong doing will be admitted (Score:2)
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At least I know I'm not the only one thinking that [slashdot.org].
Every news story the number gets bigger. What, did the FBI not keep track of how many computers they hacked? Or are they just tacking a few extra on and figuring nobody's going to actually look and see if they're telling the truth about the ever-growing pedo menace?
economies of scale (Score:1)
So much for complaints about government inefficiency. They got a lot of mileage out of just one warrant.
I hear the FBI also economizes in its use of the truth, too. Truth is valuable. They don't use it unless absolutely necessary.
More efficiency. These guys are wizards!