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Peter Thiel Is Joining Donald Trump's Transition Team (theverge.com) 820

Peter Thiel's time spent campaigning for Donald Trump during the election season has paid off. According to a statement released today, Donald Trump has named Thiel to the executive committee of his presidential transition team. The Verge reports: Thiel, who donated $1.25 million to Trump's campaign late in the election cycle, mostly stood alone among colleagues in his support for Trump, who was publicly disdained in the Valley. Thiel's support came at a cost to businesses like startup accelerator Y Combinator, which soon attracted negative publicity for having Thiel as a part-time adviser. Thiel also brought criticism to Facebook, where he is a board member, although Mark Zuckerberg defended his place at the company. Thiel further angered First Amendment supporters by bankrolling the Hulk Hogan lawsuit that brought down Gawker. Thiel said before the election that he would find some way of working with the Trump administration, and although his final role is unclear, his appointment to Trump's executive committee signals the relationship will indeed continue.
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Peter Thiel Is Joining Donald Trump's Transition Team

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  • by turkeydance ( 1266624 ) on Friday November 11, 2016 @11:31PM (#53269371)
    he reaps the rewards.
    • by dbIII ( 701233 )

      he reaps the rewards.

      What sort of rewards? Did that story about Thiel feeding off the blood of the young (injections supposedly for longevity) turn out to be the utter bullshit it sounds like or is he really that weird and creepy?

      • by ShanghaiBill ( 739463 ) on Saturday November 12, 2016 @12:24AM (#53269607)

        is he really that weird and creepy?

        I have met Peter a few times, and listened to him talk many times. He is certainly weird, but I don't think he is creepy. He has a lot of original idea and insights, although many of them are ... well, weird ... like his idea to start an independent libertarian utopia on an ocean platform [wikipedia.org]. He is a self-described libertarian, so I was surprised to see him endorse Donald. But the American people voted for change, and if Peter lands a spot in Trump's administration, it certainly won't be business as usual.

        • by ATMAvatar ( 648864 ) on Saturday November 12, 2016 @12:31AM (#53269637) Journal

          like his idea to start an independent libertarian utopia on an ocean platform [wikipedia.org].

          Would you kindly vote Trump?

        • by dbIII ( 701233 )
          A bit of an aside, but personally I think the people who push for some sort of Utopia should read the original book of that name. It's a satire. The bit about never needing lawyers is a major clue, especially since it was written by a lawyer.
          A Utopia need perfect people. The Salem witch trials demonstrates what happens when a little Utopia finds a few people who are not perfect in their midst. One person's Utopia is another's nightmare, so it's hell for anyone who isn't perfect, such as every child ever
        • by FlyHelicopters ( 1540845 ) on Saturday November 12, 2016 @01:23AM (#53269831)

          if Peter lands a spot in Trump's administration, it certainly won't be business as usual.

          When is the last time a Republican Administration had an openly gay man in a senior role?

          Peter would make a decent tech adviser to Trump. For all the people bitching that Trump is a raciest, homophobic, bigot... well, you're not paying attention...

          • So Trump's cozying up to Evangelicals, conservative Catholics and other social conservatives with pretty strong guarantees of a Supreme Court willing to rip up abortion and gay rights didn't happen?

  • Crony Capitalism (Score:4, Insightful)

    by srwood ( 99488 ) on Friday November 11, 2016 @11:38PM (#53269397)

    A little conflict of interest here with his company Palantir Technologies and its half a billion dollars in defense contracts.

    • by prefec2 ( 875483 ) on Friday November 11, 2016 @11:45PM (#53269425)

      Why? Corruption is the standard in Washington. I wait for the day when Trump voters find out that Trump is also part of a rich elite. That they will stay poor and have no jobs. Lower taxes is BTW only good for people who earn that.much that they have to pay them.

      • I wait for the day when Trump voters find out that Trump is also part of a rich elite. That they will stay poor and have no jobs.

        This is the problem with stupid people, they are too stupid to work this out, and will never work it out as he'll continue to shout loudly that it's someone else's fault. We have a rich elitist 1%er telling the working class that he's on their side, and they fell for it hook line and sinker. It takes a special kind of stupid to get sucked into that one.

    • by dywolf ( 2673597 )

      He'll be appointed Press Secretary or Minister of Information is my guess.

  • Oh, my bad, that was the other side's policy. I got confused there for a second.
    • Re: (Score:3, Informative)

      by lucm ( 889690 )

      Oh, my bad, that was the other side's policy. I got confused there for a second.

      Do you mean the "furniture for pardon" program implemented during the Clinton presidency? Or the more popular "cash for pardon", also implemented by Clinton? Or maybe the more recent "donate to the Clinton Foundation to meet the secretary of state" program? There's also the classic "sell uranium to the Russians as long as they contribute to the Clinton Foundation" program.

      You'll have to be more specific.

      • Re:pay to play (Score:5, Insightful)

        by Kohath ( 38547 ) on Saturday November 12, 2016 @01:25AM (#53269837)

        How about the $750,000 speech Bill Clinton gave for Ericsson 9 days before telecom equipment was left off a list of items prohibited by Iran sanctions [nbcnews.com]. Just a coincidence probably.

        • Re:pay to play (Score:5, Insightful)

          by Imazalil ( 553163 ) on Saturday November 12, 2016 @02:44AM (#53270039)

          You're willfully missing the point.

          Clinton is questionable as hell, and that is why she wasn't elected.

          Trump promised (or technically implied so, maybe there is a literal swamp he'll be draining somewhere) to clean things up. Now, he is putting people into government that were throwing money at him. Sure, they're a transition team and all that, but so much for a clean break. Screaming Clinton this, Clinton that doesn't make Trumps hypocrisy any better.

          • by Sycraft-fu ( 314770 ) on Saturday November 12, 2016 @03:15AM (#53270105)

            Humans are sadly very tribal so the Trump supporters are going to be unwilling to admit he's not what they wanted him to be. One common denial tactic you'll see is a redirection where someone points out that Trump or his people do something bad, is to point out a time that the other team, Secretary Clinton in particular, did something similar. To them that justifies it in the sense "We are still in the right because the other guy would have been even worse." It is a way to deflect acknowledging criticism.

            You saw the same thing with supporters of President Obama. When he was criticized for things that went against campaign promises, such as offering government transparency, supporters inevitable dredged up President Bush. Basically since President Bush had done something they would argue was worse, that would excuse what President Obama did.

            Same shit, different side. Expect to see plenty of it as there is essentially no way at all that Trump can keep most of his promises. Many that see them selves as on that "team" won't want to acknowledge criticism as valid, so they'll deny it when they can, or use redirection like this when they can't.

          • Clinton is questionable as hell, and that is why she wasn't elected.

            No not really. She seems no more questionable than many, many other politicians, certainly less so than Trump. And bear in mind that the Republicans have had it out for her for decades. Everything with a sniff of dirt has been dragged out in public and pounded on. Given that level of scrutiny, few people would look as clean as a whistle.

  • It's the transition team, people.

    You very, very rarely go from "transition team" to "cabinet position". It's a somewhat meaningless post, other than access to give advice. Who thinks Trump will be taking most of the advice he gets, rather than acknowledging it, then ignoring it and doing what he wants to do anyway?

    • by PopeRatzo ( 965947 ) on Friday November 11, 2016 @11:48PM (#53269445) Journal

      You very, very rarely go from "transition team" to "cabinet position".

      Trump chose his vice-president to lead his transition team.

      This is a guy who, as governor of Indiana, when facing a breakout of AIDS in the rural community due to drug use, chose "prayer" as his only solution.

      This is a guy who signed a bill with a government mandate that families hold funerals for miscarried or aborted fetuses.

      This is a guy who as governor, instructed law enforcement to investigate women who miscarried to make sure they weren't aborting their fetuses.

      • Re: (Score:2, Insightful)

        by Anonymous Coward

        That's the Vice President

        Sorry he wasn't your pick but the electorate didn't have a problem with him.

        • by Bob-Bob Hardyoyo ( 4240135 ) on Saturday November 12, 2016 @04:24AM (#53270243)
          No, no, no, We have a huge problem with him. Hillary was just EVEN FUCKING WORSE.
      • by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 11, 2016 @11:55PM (#53269485)

        Good. I want the Republicans to go all in: have Roe v. Wade overturned, ban abortion, eliminate the fillibuster, repeal the ACA, lower taxes on the top earners while shifting the tax burdern to the lower and middle classes, have gay marriage overturned, everything. Make things as painful as possible for as many people as possible. Most people, it seems, only respond to pain; make them feel it.

        • You know whats sad - most "conservatives" I know would still manage to find a way to blame it on the democrats.

        • Good. I want the Republicans to go all in: have Roe v. Wade overturned, ban abortion, eliminate the fillibuster, repeal the ACA, lower taxes on the top earners while shifting the tax burdern to the lower and middle classes, have gay marriage overturned, everything. Make things as painful as possible for as many people as possible. Most people, it seems, only respond to pain; make them feel it.

          You must be the guy in front of me with the license plate holder that said "Sticks and Stones May Break My Bones but Whips and Chains Excite Me". (The actual plate was 'N2LTHR').

        • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

          Good. I want the Republicans to go all in

          Lots of liberals said the same thing back in 1980 when a B-movie actor was elected president.

          He was re-elected in 1984 with one of the biggest landslides in history.

          Over the past year, many people have underestimated Donald Trump ... "he will flame out before the Iowa Caucus", "he can't survive Super Tuesday", "he can't win over moderate Republicans in the upper midwest", "he is leading the Republican Party into the wilderness", "he doesn't stand a chance against Hillary". So far, they have all been wrong.

          • by Alypius ( 3606369 ) on Saturday November 12, 2016 @02:35AM (#53270019)
            I have faith in America for that exact reason. Reagan was an idiot who was going to start a nuclear WW3. W was going to impose a theocracy. Trump's not even inaugurated yet. Let's calm down, be vigilant, and see what happens.
        • by amiga3D ( 567632 )

          I love you people. You're every bit as entertaining as the idiots who ran around screaming about Obama when he was elected. Have a little faith in the system, it's worked for over two centuries. Obama shoved bad shit through when first elected and the backlash was he had to work with a Republican majority in Congress. If Trump starts going all right wing he'll wind up drowning in Democrats. I expect to see him undo the worst of Obama's policies and then hopefully he'll sit down with ALL of Congress and

      • by dbIII ( 701233 )

        This is a guy who as governor, instructed law enforcement to investigate women who miscarried to make sure they weren't aborting their fetuses.

        Isn't it strange how the people who scream "small government" and "freedom" go out and employ extra people just so that they can poke their noses into the most private places.

      • by physicsphairy ( 720718 ) on Saturday November 12, 2016 @12:11AM (#53269549) Homepage

        mandate that families hold funerals for miscarried or aborted fetuses

        This was so crazy that I had to look it up. Turns out "hold a funeral" is "dispose of remains properly" -- the bill required that fetal remains be either interred or incinerated. Generally speaking that would be the responsibility of the healthcare facility in custody of the remains.

        Tell me straight, is "require families to hold a funeral" truly the most accurate and reasonable way you could come up with to indicate the nature of the bill, or is it a purposeful deception?

        • by Trailer Trash ( 60756 ) on Saturday November 12, 2016 @12:40AM (#53269687) Homepage

          mandate that families hold funerals for miscarried or aborted fetuses

          This was so crazy that I had to look it up. Turns out "hold a funeral" is "dispose of remains properly" -- the bill required that fetal remains be either interred or incinerated. Generally speaking that would be the responsibility of the healthcare facility in custody of the remains.

          Tell me straight, is "require families to hold a funeral" truly the most accurate and reasonable way you could come up with to indicate the nature of the bill, or is it a purposeful deception?

          This is what happens when you believe what you read at Media Matters. In this case, MM was blindly copying from Esquire:

          http://mediamatters.org/resear... [mediamatters.org]

        • by denzacar ( 181829 ) on Saturday November 12, 2016 @01:39AM (#53269887) Journal

          The law in case [in.gov] requires treatment of what is nothing but medical waste as if it were a dead body. [iowa.gov]

          Throughout the law in case, legislators explicitly removed ANY limitation of gestation time or any choice from the pregnant women on the matter - making it a law that 1-week, 2-week or 20-week abortion MUST be treated the same as a body of a grown human being.
          It MUST be issued a burial transit permit and it MUST be either buried in a graveyard (i.e. interred) or cremated - at the expense of the clinic or the parent(s).
          It cannot be disposed of as what it is - medical waste. As was the case prior to that law.

          Furthermore, law requires informing the parent(s) of the "fetus" about "counseling that may be available concerning the death of the miscarried fetus".
          Which is treating a removed cyst as if it is a dead human. And if the human is dead due to a surgery, that means someone killed it.
          I.e. Abortion is murder.

          Also, parent(s) are required to sign off on the "final disposition of the miscarried fetus" - i.e. the burial.
          Thus, the law DOES require families to hold funerals (as only licensed funeral facilities may conduct burials of human bodies) - if they chose not to have the burial of the "fetus" taken care of by the clinic.
          In which case, the clinic must bare the costs of the procedure - IF they can even find someone willing to do the "interment or cremation". [theatlantic.com]
          Cause while on one side there is an active campaign against anything abortion related in that state, on the other there is no money in it for the funeral homes.
          For either of those reasons, they tend to refuse to provide burial services to clinics.

          "We're all figuring it out," said Patti Stauffer, the vice president of policy at Planned Parenthood of Indiana and Kentucky. So far, she hasn't had much luck finding potential funeral homes and cemeteries - a lot of the businesses she's called have told her no. "It's not like we have hundreds of people that are interested in working with us," she said.

          That doesn't mean implementing the law won't be logistically challenging, though. "There's going to be a lot of man hours involved," said Curtis Rostad, the executive director of the Indiana Funeral Directors Association. "I think a lot of funeral homes are going to be doing a lot of man hours to do this, for not a lot of income."

          Which in practice leaves clinics with a single solution - to shift the burden of the burial of the "fetus" onto the patient.
          "Fetus" must be treated as a dead body...
          Clinics can't find a business partner to do it for them...
          But a patient can simply walk into a funeral home with their burial transit permit and their bag of medical waste and have the "fetus" interred or cremated. Yay!

          I.e. Either the parent(s) must take the "body" to a funeral home and have it buried at their own expense - OR the clinics will be forced to have parents take the body to a funeral home and have it buried at their own expense.
          Or clinics can simply close. That's an option too.
          Just like coat hangers and falling off a stool are an option.

      • This is a guy who, as governor of Indiana, when facing a breakout of AIDS in the rural community due to drug use, chose "prayer" as his only solution.

        This could be awkward, aren't Christians traditionally the enemies of vampires [thedailybeast.com]?

      • Well, he's still less batshit insane than either Clinton or the rest of the Republican presidential candidates (except for Kasich).

        That is truly damning by faint praise, but there you have it. The best and the brightest....

      • by 0100010001010011 ( 652467 ) on Saturday November 12, 2016 @01:19AM (#53269813)

        Pence is Trump's impeachment insurance.

        Trump's the first republican to hold a pride flag on stage. http://m.washingtontimes.com/n... [washingtontimes.com]

        On Sunday, at a rally in Colorado, Mr. Trump proudly held up a rainbow flag with the words “LGBT for Trump” written on it to a cheering crowd of thousands. It was an historic moment for gay equality and the Party of Lincoln as the 2016 GOP nominee for President of the United States held high the flag for gay equality. No other Republican Presidential nominee in history has embraced the LGBT community in such a loud and proud way.

        He's also said trans could use what ever bathroom they wanted and Caitlyn Jenner took Trump up on bathroom offer. http://www.cnn.com/2016/04/28/... [cnn.com]

    • by Kohath ( 38547 )

      Also, since when does anyone care who is on the transition team? The transition team disappears in a few weeks. They don't make policy.

      Try not to wet your pants every day between now and the inauguration.

  • by tlambert ( 566799 ) on Friday November 11, 2016 @11:47PM (#53269433)

    "Thiel further angered First Amendment supporters by bankrolling the Hulk Hogan lawsuit that brought down Gawker"

    I'm pretty sure the only people who felt angered at this as a first amendment issue were the folks at Gawker.

    Everyone else was pretty happy to see the Silicon Valley Version of TMZ (Thirty Mile Zone) go away, and quit outing the sexual orientation of businessmen whose only possible reason for being considered "public persons" was having been promoted as such by Gawker in the first place.

    Peter Thiel and Hulk Hogan: I personally cheered for the verdict in this case, and am glad Thiel backed it.

  • Both Peter Thiel and Donald Trump are thin-skinned rich white guys who bully anyone that they think insults their thin-skinned specialness.

    Both have shown clearly they are FOR free speech when that speech is FOR them, and AGAINST free speech when that speech is against them.
    That means they are neither pro free speech, the first amendment, or basic human rights.

    It is not surprising that a narcissistic misogynist xenophobic racist bully would enlist others like him to a transition team.

    Trump's history is full

    • Trump's history is full of contracts where he refuses to pay and unilaterally changes how much he'll pay after he gets the product. If this sounds familiar it's the same as what Darth Vader did with Lando Calrissian when he took Han Solo's carbomite-frozen body to Jabba the Hutt.

      Trump glaring menacingly at liberals: "I am altering the deal. Pray I don't alter it any further."

    • Both Peter Thiel and Donald Trump are thin-skinned rich white guys who bully anyone that they think insults their thin-skinned specialness.

      Both have shown clearly they are FOR free speech when that speech is FOR them, and AGAINST free speech when that speech is against them.
      That means they are neither pro free speech, the first amendment, or basic human rights.

      It is not surprising that a narcissistic misogynist xenophobic racist bully would enlist others like him to a transition team.

      Trump's history is full of contracts where he refuses to pay and unilaterally changes how much he'll pay after he gets the product. If this sounds familiar it's the same as what Darth Vader did with Lando Calrissian when he took Han Solo's carbomite-frozen body to Jabba the Hutt.

      Those who voted for Trump for President are in for a few nasty surprises when he does the same things to our allies, to our treaties, to his own campaign promises, and to the people of this land. Unfortunately, so are the rest of us.

      E

      Relax everyone. This is just the echoes of the Clinton campaign dying down.

      Clinton ran a campaign of spite and malice, she created a tidal wave of hatred and loathing, the waves of which are still sloshing around the tub.

      It'll take about two weeks (from the election). People will see Trump acting presidential, that he isn't a monster, and that his plans are sensible and good for the country.

      In the mean time, just let them work it out of their system.

      Maybe it'll make their transition quicker.

  • wut (Score:5, Insightful)

    by ArylAkamov ( 4036877 ) on Saturday November 12, 2016 @12:25AM (#53269613)

    Thiel further angered First Amendment supporters by bankrolling the Hulk Hogan lawsuit that brought down Gawker.

    I didn't realize publishing private sextapes and ignoring orders from judges was a first amendment issue, but hacked nudes were a completely different, terrible thing to do.

    http://i.imgur.com/CQ5qgvu.jpg [imgur.com]

  • Cleaning the swamp? (Score:5, Interesting)

    by Kwyj1b0 ( 2757125 ) on Saturday November 12, 2016 @01:26AM (#53269845)

    I've been hearing a lot of talk about "Give Trump a chance", and "let's judge him when he gets to office" by people who voted against him, but are practical enough to want a good leader.

    However, this seems to be a pattern with Trump - using donors or people who already agree with him in key positions and advisors. His economic team [wsj.com] consists of big donors, and discredited hacks like Stephen Moore and Larry Kudlow (this is non-partisan; even economic advisors of previous republicans presidents [typepad.com] don't agree with Moore). He takes an climate-change skeptic (Myron Ebell) to lead the EPA transition.

    Yet, I haven't heard a peep from most people who supported Trump about this. The "blue collar" crowd who supported him was about people sick of "Establishment politics", and instead wanted someone "looking out for the working class". Trump's isolationist and trade-war leaning policies, and embrace of supply-side economics have a proven record of hurting workers. Together with clear cronyism (to be fair, this was obvious before the election), I'm surprised that the "blue collar" crowd isn't even slightly upset.

    Trump's supporters seem to still be in the post-game high - "Our team won!"; are they going to hold him to his (crazy) campaign promises? Are they going to expect him to loosen libel laws, build a wall, bring back sweatshop factory jobs? A co-worker remarked "Trump's victory speech was a step towards healing", instead of realizing that the stirred up crazy is still out there; he doesn't get credit for not being as crazy enough to follow through on his campaign promises.

    • by DogDude ( 805747 )
      Yup. Ironically enough, the dummies who voted for him are the ones who are going to be the most fucked over: poor, uneducated people in the middle of the country. Fuck 'em. I think that Trump is a human piece of shit, but my taxes will go down, and if things get too scary, I can leave. Those dumb fuckers are going to have to live with what they did. They won't learn from it, but karma's a bitch.
  • by FlyHelicopters ( 1540845 ) on Saturday November 12, 2016 @12:00PM (#53271311)

    http://www.cnn.com/2016/11/11/... [cnn.com]

    Nomani, a former Wall Street Journal reporter and co-founder of the Muslim Reform Movement, first made her self-described "confession" in a Washington Post column on Thursday. Since it published, she told Costello, she has received a torrent of abuse on social media. It's a symptom, Nomani insisted, of an increasingly hostile "liberal honor brigade."

    And that is what the left doesn't understand... and it is one of the reasons Clinton lost...

    Liberals, self-proclaimed "tolerant" people, attack anyone who doesn't hold their values.

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