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Saudi Arabian Teen Arrested For Online Videos With American Blogger (theguardian.com) 213

Mazin Sidahmed and Nicky Woolf, reporting for The Guardian: A male Saudi Arabian teenager has been arrested in Riyadh over a series of online videos of conversations between him and a female Californian streaming-video star that went viral. A Riyadh police spokesperson, Colonel Fawaz Al-Mayman, said the teenager, known online as Abu Sin, was arrested on Sunday for engaging in "unethical behaviour" in videos with Christina Crockett, a popular broadcaster on the conversational live-streaming site YouNow. Abu Sin's real name is not known. "His videos received many comments and many of the commenters of the general public demanded for him to be punished for his actions," Al-Maymann added, according to the Saudi Gazette. The two amassed thousands of fans on the YouNow network, and later on YouTube after videos of the two speaking were uploaded there. The videos featured Abu Sin -- a nickname given to him for his broken teeth -- and Crockett communicating despite their significant language barriers. The popularity of the videos of the two of them surprised Crockett, she told the Guardian in an interview. As a broadcaster on YouNow, she can invite her fans to join her broadcasts on split-screen, which is known as "guesting."
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Saudi Arabian Teen Arrested For Online Videos With American Blogger

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  • by Anonymous Coward

    So they had conversation. So what is the problem? It didn't come clear in this post at slashdot.

    • Re: (Score:1, Funny)

      by Anonymous Coward
      He didn't scream "Alahu Akbar, death to infidels!" at a blonde girl, that's punishable by death if you are a sandnigger
    • Re:So? (Score:5, Insightful)

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 30, 2016 @11:21AM (#52989405)

      So they had conversation. So what is the problem?

      Islam

      • by Anonymous Coward

        Racist! \s

        • Racist! \s

          No, the poster is probably right..... Islamic countries are very strict on how you interact with the opposite sex...

          • The "\s" conveys sarcasm.
          • Racist! \s

            No, the poster is probably right..... Islamic countries are very strict on how you interact with the opposite sex...

            Since when being right is any defense against being accused of racism?

        • Re: So? (Score:5, Insightful)

          by slasher999 ( 513533 ) on Friday September 30, 2016 @12:42PM (#52990191)

          Islam isn't a race, so not it's not.

        • Re:So? (Score:5, Informative)

          by tombak ( 4436895 ) on Friday September 30, 2016 @02:55PM (#52991007)
          I am Iranian and I grew up in an Islamic country (although I moved to Canada at the age of 16). I remember getting arrested for such egregious crimes as: 1) having long hair 2) talking to girls 3) one time just hanging out at a park with a group of friends! no girls this time. I got slapped around at the age of 15 by one of these "religion enforcement police" goons because he accused me of being gay because I had long hair (what??). They took me to jail and I was there till 3 AM and only after my mother begged and pleaded with them would they let me go. It was really hard watching my mother cry while surrounded by a bunch of goons. I had it relatively easy, but these Muslim fanatics have inflicted immeasurable suffering on so many young people in Iran/Saudi Arabia... Anyways, the problem IS Islam, and shame on you for saying he is racist. People like you confuse the issue due to their own ignorance. H
          • Glad that you made it out okay, and I really applaud you for recognizing the problem. Iranians who do that and apostetize - as in, become anything else - Atheist, Zoroastrian, Christian, Buddhist, et al, have hope. Those who claim that it's not Islam, it's the Mullahs, are clueless, and a part of the problem. It's not which imam is gonna run the country - it's the fact that imams run the country in the first place
    • by gweihir ( 88907 )

      He is living in a religio-fascist country with though-police.

  • oh my god! (Score:2, Insightful)

    by Anonymous Coward

    He talked with a woman! Unclean! Unclean!

  • SJW (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Major Blud ( 789630 ) on Friday September 30, 2016 @11:14AM (#52989349) Homepage

    This is the sort of thing that SJW's should be fighting against......instead they decide to focus their efforts on restricting speech in some of the most liberal places on Earth.

    • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

      by The-Ixian ( 168184 )

      Because they are mutually exclusive? That's kind of a myopic view of the world you have there...

      • by Anonymous Coward

        "Because they are mutually exclusive?"

        When you spend 90% of your time arguing against one and put much more effort and resources behind it, while the other you say is horrible and then move on ...

        Yes, yes they are mutually exclusive. People can consume only so many messages during a day, a week, a month. When one message consumes vastly more of that time that is the one that we care about ... or so is impressed upon people. It's why a reduction in a particular crime can seem like an increase because the

        • Meddling [Re:SJW] (Score:3, Insightful)

          by Tablizer ( 95088 )

          It may be a matter of not sticking ones nose in another country's business: fix our own backyard first.

          Meddling in the Middle East just seems to make things worse. If they wanna be medieval and keep resisting modernization, there should come a point where we give up trying to modernize them and instead focus on issues closer to home.

      • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

        by Anonymous Coward

        No, it's because SJWs seem to have all the energy in the world to fight windmill giants like microagressions and the Patriarchy (insert x-files tune here), but yet there are nowhere to be seen when it comes to legitimate instances oppression. SJWs are not about doing the "right thing" (tm), they are about experiencing the moral gratification without doing any of the hard work required.

        Oh and #notallsjws

    • ...No they don't. You're just afraid that they do.
    • This is the sort of thing that SJW's should be fighting against......instead they decide to focus their efforts on restricting speech in some of the most liberal places on Earth.

      You would think they would, but in that part of the world, you would get your teeth kicked out by the police and your ass thrown in a hole and turned loose whenever they feel like it.

      Not like here in the States where they have 'rights'

    • "SJWs" do fight against stuff like this, and they do it all the time. This story was on BoingBoing two days ago [boingboing.net], for instance. That site is about SJW-y as they get.

  • by Captain Scurvy ( 818996 ) on Friday September 30, 2016 @11:19AM (#52989385)
    It will be interesting to see whether continuing incidents like these over the next several years spark enough domestic and international outrage that totlitarian regimes are forced to change their governing practices.
    • by elrous0 ( 869638 ) on Friday September 30, 2016 @11:26AM (#52989463)

      Saudi Arabia will never have to change as long as they have oil. Everyone is too busy kissing their asses to keep that sweet crude coming.

      • Saudi Arabia will never have to change as long as they have oil.

        Well, that and what given a bunch of cash to the Clinton family will get you, of course.

      • by Captain Scurvy ( 818996 ) on Friday September 30, 2016 @12:03PM (#52989805)

        Saudi Arabia will never have to change as long as they have oil. Everyone is too busy kissing their asses to keep that sweet crude coming.

        That dynamic has changed radically with U.S. LTO shattering oil prices and turning the United States into the new swing producer. The Saudis are already being forced to restructure their entire government, and while their cheap oil reserves still make them a major player, their influence in that regard has been severely curtailed. t. petroleum engineer

        • If you're a petroleum engineer then you should realise the incredible power that the Saudis and their cheap oil have over the expensive and hard to process North American crap. Heck the entire industry and countries all over the world breathed a collective sigh of relief at the announcement from OPEC this week.

          The dynamic has changed ... slightly. Not radically. You couldn't even remotely use the word "radically". Heck since we lifted sanctions on Iran we saw how little influence we really have and the past

      • Saudi Arabia will never have to change as long as they have oil. Everyone is too busy kissing their asses to keep that sweet crude coming.

        Actually, the price of oil continuously declining will lead to the same effect. Also, w/ new oil reserves in Canada and US, as well as Russia too struggling to get more cash, there is only gonna be more downward pressure on their prices

    • by Major Blud ( 789630 ) on Friday September 30, 2016 @11:28AM (#52989479) Homepage

      next several years spark enough domestic.

      International, yes, but domestic, hardly. I'm willing to bet that the highly conservative muslim population of Saudi Arabia is in favor of these sort of things.

      If you look at the results of Arab Spring, the totalitarian regimes that were overthrown and replaced with "democratic" ones were done so with what I would not call forward-thinking progressive governments.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... [wikipedia.org]

      • Re: (Score:2, Insightful)

        by Anonymous Coward

        Oppression isn't something a person decides they're in favor of. Oppression is something a person is told they're in favor of. Then, they simply parrot it.

        • by Copid ( 137416 )
          Well, when the oppressed revolt against the oppressors and take over the government, more often than not they decide that maybe oppression isn't so bad after all. Most of human history isn't a struggle to end oppression so much as a battle over whose turn it is to hold the whip.
      • by Ost99 ( 101831 )
        With the exception of Tunisia. They seem to have elected mostly sane people.
  • Comment removed (Score:3, Insightful)

    by account_deleted ( 4530225 ) on Friday September 30, 2016 @11:32AM (#52989533)
    Comment removed based on user account deletion
    • by wbr1 ( 2538558 ) on Friday September 30, 2016 @11:56AM (#52989729)

      Abu Sin knew what he was doing. Sometimes incarceration is a risk you take to try and make a cultural change or statement.

      Abu Sin was a young boy talking to a woman. To say he fully understood the ramifications of his actions is absurd. He almost certainly knew it was a social taboo, but to say he was trying to make cultural change is really stretching. We do not know his intentions, but Occam says hormonal teenager trumps activist any day.

      That said, this probably happens quite a bit with teenagers, just not out in the open. Then, afterwards, after the physical and mental scarring endured, these young men learn hate. And that hate is not towards his oppressors, the regime and religion that beat him down. Instead it is twisted at women or those who do as they did, that they should suffer the same punishments. This is how these types of systems stay in place and prosper.

    • You're undoing your own argument. Culturally, nobody gives a damn if you dance at the Jefferson Memorial, though some people might give a damn if a bunch of people wasted time writing and fussing about legislation to change that law that nobody cares about. On your other topics, you've made your own counterpoint. Culturally, the west has moved very quickly on areas like gay marriage. In practical terms, it's a done deal. There will be lots of little rough edges to clean up for a few years yet. Meanwhile, th
    • [Americans are] quick to point out the injustice of the Saudi criminal code yet conveniently overlook the fact that it is a criminal offence to dance at the Jefferson Memorial, or that until 1967 interracial marriages were illegal in a plurality of states.

      I think most Americans are quick to point out stupid laws in the U.S., too, when they become aware of such laws. But most Americans are just too stupid to vote out the Congresscritters who enact such laws.

    • by Copid ( 137416 )
      Could I summarize this post as, "All countries' laws are basically equal in terms of injustice/ridiculousness?" I'm guessing not, but that's really the only solid claim i can really extract from it.
  • by Anonymous Coward

    Fuck it. The sooner it is wiped off this earth the better.

  • Apparently he was streaming when he was arrested (police arrives at 7:00): https://www.youtube.com/watch?... [youtube.com]

  • If all it takes is that "the general public demanded for him to be punished for his actions" then I demand that Colonel Fawaz Al-Mayman be punished for his actions, along with every member of the police that arrested Abu Sin. Who's with me?

    Think it'll work? *crickets*

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