FBI Releases Hillary Clinton Email Report (cnn.com) 409
The FBI released 58-pages documents on Friday detailing its investigation into Hillary Clinton's use of a private email server while she was secretary of state, and a summary of her interview with agents, providing the most thorough look yet at the probe that has dogged the campaign of the Democratic presidential nominee. CNN reports: Clinton repeatedly told the FBI she lacked recollection of key events. She said she "could not recall any briefing or training by State related to the retention of federal records or handling classified information," according to the FBI's notes of their July 2 interview with Clinton. Fallout from Clinton's use of a private email server continues to dog the Democratic presidential nominee's campaign, as her lead over her Republican counterpart Donald Trump has been cut in half since her post convention bounce last month, according to CNN's Poll of Polls released Thursday. Trump and other Republicans have stepped up their attacks connecting the emails to questions over whether Clinton gave preferential treatment to donors to her family's foundation. The bureau is making the information public in response to numerous Freedom of Information Act requests, including from CNN. "Today the FBI is releasing a summary of former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton's July 2, 2016 interview with the FBI concerning allegations that classified information was improperly stored or transmitted on a personal e-mail server she used during her tenure," the agency said in a statement. "We also are releasing a factual summary of the FBI's investigation into this matter."
"could not recall" (Score:5, Insightful)
"could not recall any briefing or training by State related to the retention of federal records or handling classified information"
Funny, every one of us poor bastards who actually would go to jail over a classified release remembers the briefing distinctly. She, having had the statutory authority to determine what's classified or not with the stroke of a pen (Original Classification Authority) doesn't remember any of the training and couldn't be assed to declassify what she told her subordinates to email her. If she had any integrity, at all, she should shoot herself.
Re:"could not recall" (Score:5, Insightful)
I recall my training on confidential information when I entered the Defense Industry nearly thirty years ago. Hell, I remember the Food Safety course I took at age 17.
It's clear Hillary has some kind of Brain Injury issue going on.
Re:"could not recall" (Score:5, Insightful)
Yes. She sustained this injury early in her life. It is called "I am better than you" syndrome AKA "I am not one of the little people" syndrome.
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I hate to break it to you, but something like 99% of politicians at state level and above have that same problem.
Honestly, I'm not sure if I even need the qualifier. I've met a couple city councilmen who thought they walked on water and that their feces was not odoriferous.
Hillary news break (Score:5, Interesting)
The executive branch has announced that it has thoroughly investigated itself, and it's found that it did nothing wrong.
Re:"could not recall" (Score:5, Insightful)
I recall my training on confidential information when I entered the Defense Industry nearly thirty years ago. Hell, I remember the Food Safety course I took at age 17.
It's clear Hillary has some kind of Brain Injury issue going on.
According to this article [washingtontimes.com],
Mrs. Clinton told the FBI she couldn’t remember if she was ever briefed on preserving records, but said it may have happened in 2012, after she fell and suffered a concussion and had a blood clot.
“Based on her doctor’s advice, she could only work at State for a few hours a day and could not recall every briefing she received,” the agents wrote in their notes.
Clinton became Secretary of State in 2009. I doubt she got her briefing on preserving records in 2012.
Claiming that she can't remember things because of her concussion helps keep her out of legal trouble. However, it doesn't help her claim that her mind is healthy enough to be president. Well, maybe she'll say that her mind was messed up then, but that it's ok now.
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We're not electing HC or DT, we're electing their staff, their group of advisers, speech writers, and policy makers - neither of them is competent to execute even 1% of the office on their own cognition.
Washington Times Cred [Re:"could not recall"] (Score:3, Insightful)
Sorry, but Washington Times is known for political bias and spin. My advice is either find and quote the original source of their info, or ignore them. You might as well cite a tabloid (which they arguably are).
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Half your audience is wondering why you misspelled 'Post.'
Hence, there really isn't anything unclear or confusing here.
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Clinton became Secretary of State in 2009. I doubt she got her briefing on preserving records in 2012.
Ok, I found it [weeklystandard.com]:
"I hereby acknowledge that I have received a security indoctrination concerning the nature and protection of classified information, including the procedures to be followed in ascertaining whether other persons to whom I contemplate disclosing this information have been approved for access to it, and that I understand these procedures." -- Signed by H R Clinton 22-01-2009
Re:"could not recall" (Score:4, Insightful)
She can't even sign right, she did dd-mm-yyyy instead of mm-dd-yyyy!
Maybe she'll claim that makes it not valid...
Yes, she used one of the two logical ways to portray a date, the other being YYYY-MM-DD. The American habit of using MM-DD-YYYY is almost as annoying as refusing to use the metric system
Re: "could not recall" (Score:4, Funny)
There two types of countries. Those that use the metric system and those that have been to the moon.
Re:"could not recall" (Score:4, Interesting)
It's clear Hillary has some kind of Brain Injury issue going on.
Yes, it was a pretty bad head trauma. The cover story was that she had a flu or something and fell over and banged her head, and that's why she was wearing those glasses. The coverup was necessary because the injury actually happened during a plane crash in Iran when she was headed to secret negotiations, which the State Department lied about, then covered up, then covered up the lie, then restored the video where they admitted the lie. It was lies all the way down.
There was also a Navy Seal killed during the crash [eutimes.net]. It must have been a fairly open secret among some folks at the State Department. When Hillary returned to work after a month-long recovery from the crash, officials at the Department gave her a crash helmet as a gift.
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Okay, while I think Clinton has a problem here, you need better sourcing. Russia is known to push faulty stories.
Loony Site (Score:5, Interesting)
I'm not a Clinton supporter and I don't think you have to trust her or the main stream media. But that is a wacko right wing site.
http://www.eutimes.net/2016/08... [eutimes.net]
http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/E... [rationalwiki.org]
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Rational Wiki?
Is that a wiki that deals mostly in fractions? I can't find the page on improper fractions.
That is reciprocal nonsense.
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Oddly enough, I don't and mine was less than 15 years ago.
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Oddly enough, I don't and mine was less than 15 years ago.
You recall at least having HAD the briefing, right? She supposedly couldn't even remember that much, despite having signed paperwork about the briefing. [weeklystandard.com]
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'I cannot recall' saying I cannot recall (Score:4, Interesting)
When a politician (from either party) says 'I cannot recall' while being questioned under oath, it means, 'I will neither conform or deny your question because I am under oath'. Saying nothing of substance give investigators and prosecutors no ammo for perjury charges, which could be filed even if a primary charge gets thrown out of court. Furthermore, Pleading the fifth just makes you look guilty even if you had nothing to do with whatever it is that is being investigated. Saying you cannot recall is a solid legal dodge, and ANY politician with good legal council will use it if you try to push them into a corner.
If you want to hate on Hillary, go ahead. But try to stick to actual character flaws and not tried and true legal tactics to avoid perjury charges. She remembers every bit of it, but she is playing defense so the Hilary witch hunters cannot nail her on tangential charges.
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Translation of fancy language: She is avoiding disclosure of the truth.
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Yup. She's either senile, incompetent or a pathological liar. Just what we need for the next president, yeah?
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(I've seen a similar thing happen with the officers in the military at every base I was ever at, except there you sometimes had the additional difficulty that th
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We all know the plausible deniability angle. Yet we've heard definitive statements; "no classified emails." "The server was never hacked." (today we learn about logins from Tor exit nodes.) "No FOIA responsive emails we're deleted." (Thousands were.)
On one hand we're supposed to accept these unambiguous and informed claims, and on the other we're supposed to believe she — a professional lawyer going back to the Watergate investigation — was oblivious to her legal obligations. The appeal
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Re:"could not recall" (Score:5, Insightful)
Yup. She's either senile, incompetent or a pathological liar.
I vote for "all of the above"...
Doesn't recognize what classified markings look like, doesn't remember any of her briefings on it, losing her blackberry dozens of times...
Does anyone actually believe all this stuff? She's been conveniently "forgetting" things for 25 years, going back to the Whitewater FBI investigation interviews. It's a bit much to believe she has the worst memory ever, but only when it comes to things which are potentially damaging to her criminally and politically.
Don't get me started on the fact that the FBI conveniently released all this damaging information as a Friday-Before-Holiday news avoidance dump.
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Don't get me started on the fact that the FBI conveniently released all this damaging information as a Friday-Before-Holiday news avoidance dump.
Personally, I look at that as giving the media all the time it needs to go through the information before Tuesday.
I wonder when the State Department is going to release Hillary's training records to show she took the training.
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As soon as Obama personally arranges for them to enter the Witness Protection Program?
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Her signed acknowledgement of taking the training is already publicly available. [weeklystandard.com]
Re:"could not recall" (Score:4, Informative)
"It's a bit much to believe she has the worst memory ever, but only when it comes to things which are potentially damaging to her criminally and politically."
Actually, Narcissistic Personality Disorder combined with trauma-induced schizophrenia would produce *exactly* this effect.
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"It's a bit much to believe she has the worst memory ever, but only when it comes to things which are potentially damaging to her criminally and politically."
Actually, Narcissistic Personality Disorder combined with trauma-induced schizophrenia would produce *exactly* this effect.
Sounds about right, but what trauma did Trump experience? :-)
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Haven't heard Trump actually claim to have *forgotten* anything. His Modus Operandi is usually to claim that he CHOOSES to be an asshole who won't pay anybody what he owes them (due to something about not being satisfied with the work output while sending undocumented workers into homelessness when the subcontractor goes bankrupt).
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won't pay anybody what he owes them
Really? Thousands of vendors and contractors and thousands of employees for decade after decade and he's never paid a single one of them? Why do they keep going out of their way to compete to do more work for him? Really. Be specific.
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He "forgets" plenty of stuff when convenient.
http://www.redstate.com/absent... [redstate.com]
Markers [Re:"could not recall"] (Score:2)
By some accounts, it's merely a "C." -- two characters. Comey estimated there were 3 such messages found, per question from a Senator (IIRC).
And it wasn't clear whether the content itself had classified facts, or that the markers by themselves were left in. In other words, presence of markers and presence of classified material in the same given message are not necessarily the same thing.
3 messages with "C." out of roughly 40,000? Would you catch the
Re: "could not recall" (Score:2, Insightful)
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It's okay to make racist comments, as long is the racism is directed at white people.
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Re:"could not recall" (Score:5, Insightful)
if Americans vote for trump it'll be simultaneously the saddest thing and the most fucking funny thing that has ever happened.
It will probably be more like when Ventura was elected governor of Minnesota except on a national level. Endless complaining by the establishment on both sides but not much coming of it by the end.
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We're a Constitutional Republic with not too much power invested in the Executive and a notion of checks-and-balances. As long as that hasn't be perverted too much by previous administrations, it should all be good.
I would worry more about the Republicans in the House and Senate. Not that I want the Dems to have a rubber stamp either.
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"Ark in Kentucky, which many have noticed is landlocked"
Currently landlocked. Have you seen the latest AGW scare maps?
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The dude in Shitsville, Wyoming probably has a pot to piss in which is probably more than we can say for the likes of you.
Escape from New York is itself the deranged ramblings of a very intolerant liberal who couldn't handle the fact that there are people that don't drink his particular brand of Kool-Aid.
My suggestion to you would be to not by such a hysterical ninny. It might help this Brexit thing from being less of a disaster.
Stay Calm and Carry On and all that nonsense.
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Why would you laugh? Things will be horrible shit for just about everyone if Trump is elected. Think it's going to be like watching a reality show for the rest of the world?
Re: "could not recall" (Score:5, Insightful)
Things will be horrible shit for just about everyone if Trump is elected.
Because things are going SO well thanks to Clinton's policies and advice when she was Secretary of State? I wonder how a couple million Syrian refugees feel about that. Or the people now living in that shining bastion of liberty and peace, Lybia. No doubt you're thinking of the nice people in Crimea or Ukraine who are just thrilled to living where USSR 2.0 is testing the waters. Or are you thinking of the people in Pacific Rim nations who ware watching China take over international waters? Or maybe your contemplating the sterling success of economies in Central and South America, where pandered-to lefty kleptocracies are causing more than their usual share of suffering? Yes, definitely - we need the US to do its level best to ensure there's more of the same. Great idea.
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Wait, is this the country that hid the fact that Muslim clerics in their country were molesting kids because they didn't want to offend Muslims in their country?
Fucking hilarious.
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It's heart-warming to know that she summoned the strength to attend briefings and meetings when she knew that as soon as she walked out the door she'd have no recollection of what was discussed... Apparently, the smartest, best prepared candidate for President never opted to take notes when she, as secretary of state, attended high-level meetings regarding the handling and disposition of national secrets/secure documents.
Unless, of course, she simply claims not to remember to help her avoid contradicting or
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In that she mimics another very old person who was President for 8 years- Ronald Reagan. Of course, it turned out a couple of years later, he had a pretty good excuse. [nytimes.com]
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Fun fact, by the time you reach 60 years of age, in a high power posting like SecState, you have learned to filter - a lot, otherwise you'd be completely incapable of retaining any of the important stuff. Senility is already setting in, but if you've learned to cope with it, you've got a good repetoire of pat answers for the unimportant stuff. Maybe she remembers the briefing, maybe she was "multitasking" when it was given, in the greater scheme, it was one of a hundred such "important trainings."
We reall
Monitor Team? [Re:"could not recall"] (Score:2)
Those who end up in jail over such things either somehow left an evidence trail that definitely indicates "intent", not merely carelessness, OR could not afford good lawyers. The wealthy are going to have better lawyers than us. That's life. (It's lopsided in socialistic and commie nations also, where connections are "cash".)
That being said, in my opinion it should NOT be the job of
Re:Monitor Team? [Re:"could not recall"] (Score:4, Interesting)
18 U.S.C 793 (f)
https://www.law.cornell.edu/us... [cornell.edu]
Comey used the words "extremely careless", which, in legal terms, is synonymous with "grossly negligent".
http://legal-dictionary.thefre... [thefreedictionary.com]
"intent" is not "gross negligence", as demonstrated by the separate specification of intent in 18 U.S.C 793 (a), 18 U.S.C 793 (b)
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Comey is an investigator, and is required to understand law as part of his job. His statements were legal declarations, of an investigatory agent, subject of course to an actual trial (which, we should have had). Comey, in fact, is a lawyer.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... [wikipedia.org]
Insofar as the "intent" pagragraphs:
(a) mentions "intent"
(b) mentions "intent"
You made the assertion that "gross negligence" == "intent", which is obviously untrue. If it was true, they would not have needed to specify "gross negligenc
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Comey used a synonym for "gross negligence", and it makes sense that he did so - the pressure on him to avoid an indictment was phenomenal, but he couldn't help but hold onto the last shred of integrity that he had by stating obliquely that indeed, she had committed a crime. Reminiscent of that POW that said one thing but blinked in code another.
I re-read your statement. My disagreeme
Re:Monitor Team? [Re:"could not recall"] (Score:4, Interesting)
And I think we can both agree that ultimately, this should have been adjudicated in a court of law. There was clearly enough to bring charges.
No, that's not what he said :) He was quite specific when he said that "no reasonable prosecutor would bring such a case". It was definitely a crime, but in this case the "number of factors before bringing charges" obviously included the political pressure of the Obama administration :)
Of course not. Setting up the server BY ITSELF is an *intentional* act. Whether or not that intent was to harm the US (as per 18 U.S.C 793 (a) and (b)), or if it was simply "wantonness" (as per jurisdictions that require intention with gross negligence) that it was used in violation of 18 U.S.C 793 (f), simply changes which paragraph she violated.
Comey clearly stated "there is evidence of potential violations of the statutes regarding the handling of classified information". Given those potential violations, the case should have been brought to trial. It was not brought to trial because of political considerations, not legal ones.
Now, It seems to me a reasonable person would agree that final judgement would be rendered by a judge and jury. But it's manifestly unreasonable for you to assert that there was no possible criminal violation here.
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Secret servers are not setup unintentionally. Comey himself called out extreme carelessness.
Q.E.D.
Yes, in fact, it is. It is grossly negligent to set up a secret server and transmit work-related information there, when your work-related emails can have various levels of classification.
Correct. If they had
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When I become Emperor (Score:3)
I despise Trump nor a big fan of Hil, but Teams Red AND Blue have been guilty of this cowardice for decades now.
Just wait until January 21 2017 (Score:3, Insightful)
People who like the government to not get any meaningful work done should be able to rest easy. Those who would like to see something happen will be inevitably disappointed.
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Both of the front runners would be 'competent' presidents. But for different reasons. Trump seems like he would get the job done just because it is the right thing to do and he enjoys doing it. Hillary would do it because it brings her power and she has tons of shady connections to get things done.
The thing is scandal follows the Clintons. It clings to them. Why? Because it seems like *everything* they do is shady. Maybe legal, maybe not. When you have Bill Clinton saying 'house of cards is 99% accu
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January 21 will begin with GOP members attempting to initiate impeachment hearings ... People who like the government to not get any meaningful work done should be able to rest easy.
People who like the government to not get any meaningful work done are terrified of a Clinton presidency. The scenario goes like this:
In addition to increasing the current horde of left-wing judges at lower levels, with Souter dead and Thomas expected to retire after the election she gets to replace two conservative justices w
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People who like the government to not get any meaningful work done are terrified of a Clinton presidency.
Why? We didn't see anything useful done under the Obama Administration. If anything, the laws Obama has signed into law make him the most conservative president to date. The law most frequently associated with him was the largest handout to corporate America in the history of government, bar none. We have never had a republican president to date who would not have enthusiastically signed it into law.
with Souter dead
I presume you meant Scalia? I'm pretty sure David Souter [wikipedia.org] would be surprised to learn that he's no long
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APL used to have a system variable called "quad CT" (and apparently still does, for a progressive value of the word "still") which stands for "comparison tolerance" and governs equality tests on floating-point numbers.
What i
"I do not recollect" (Score:5, Insightful)
See, she's not a malicious lawbreaker, she's a drooling moron. All hail our next Commander-in-Chief!
Seriously, if she can't recall basic instructions, how can she be trusted to lead the country?
[No, don't get me started on Trump. Please, everyone, vote 3rd party.]
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Please, everyone, vote 3rd party.]
Third party voting is like the prisoner's dilemma in game theory. If everyone does it, it works out. If only some people do, those who don't win.
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[No, don't get me started on Trump. Please, everyone, vote 3rd party.]
Sure, great! Which third party do you prefer--the one that just dropped homeopathy from their platform this year and whose nominee flew to the wrong city today, or the one that had the Iron-Cross-tattooed candidate performing a striptease at the podium during their convention?
(The moral of the story is that third parties are a special, highly-distilled breed of terrible, but we happily give them a pass because we all know they're hopeless yutzes doomed to failure.)
Good thing we always hold (Score:2)
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Towards Venezuela? Oh, wait, no, towards Cuba? No, sorry, towards North Korea?
What are the Left's success-stories exactly, again?
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Norway and Sweden are quite successful with about the highest standards of living and the least corruption in the world. Denmark is way up there too. In terms of quality of life they beat the US handily in most metrics.
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What are the Left's success-stories exactly, again?
Well, obviously places like peaceful, socialist Norway. You know, a place that would NEVER do anything a Trump-like person would like. Except, you know, realize they ALSO need to build a wall to keep illegal immigrants out:
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08... [nytimes.com]
What a dilemma! (Score:2)
So, either
What a pickle... An entire jar of pickles!
Get out of here Trumpies (Score:2)
"already" vs. "remaining" (Score:2)
Trump actually goes and meets with international leaders. Hillary will not even meet with our own press... as someone snarked recently Trump has now had more press conferences with the leader of Mexico than Hillary has had with our own press.
As for the five point lead (which you may want to re-check) that has been falling and will continue to fall as we get closer to the election.
The term "October Surprise" did not come about because things in earlier months influenced the elections as much... much more an
Timing Relevant? (Score:2)
I'd like to ask the US readers about the timing of this publication. Specifically, given the proximity to a US Presidential vote in which the subject of the report, Mrs Clinton, is standing as a nominee, it would seem on the face of it that the timing of this release might be politically motivated.
If that's even a theory it doesn't seem to be getting much airtime. But I'm curious as to what our US readership might think. Is t
Ironically you are correct, but not how you think (Score:4, Interesting)
I'd like to ask the US readers about the timing of this publication.
The timing is very meaningful.
Specifically, given the proximity to a US Presidential vote in which the subject of the report, Mrs Clinton, is standing as a nominee, it would seem on the face of it that the timing of this release might be politically motivated.
It is - it was released the Friday before labor day, the time when all the worst news is released because most reporters have gone on vacation, and most people are not paying attention to news.
The timing of this being released today, means this is more very terrible new for Clinton and it is being buried as much as is possible so as few people as possible see it.
Is this a deliberately-timed event by a Republican-leaning FBI,
The FBI is Democrat leaning, as you can tell by them letting a felony slide for Clinton. The FBI said she committed a felony, but they thought it was too inconvenient to prosecute her.
Ask anyone who has ever works with classified material. They would be in jail, for a long time, if they had done just once what Clinton did with great regularity.
President Trump (Score:2)
That's it - I'm going Libertarian (Score:5, Insightful)
Hillary is clearly a lying, deceptive, corrupt, sociopath dirt bag. Whether you are a Democrat or a Republican I just don't see how it can be viewed any other way. Trump is just a buffoon. A carnival barker. An embarrassment.
Neither one of them deserves my vote. So what to do? I suppose I could just stay home and not bother to vote but that seems unpatriotic to me. People fought and died for my right to vote so the least I can do is exercise that right. So I'm voting for Gary Johnson the Libertarian candidate. He hasn't got a snowballs chance in hell of winning but that is not the point. I just can't bring myself to vote for either of those two shit sandwiches so at least I can cast a vote for Johnson with a clear conscience.
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Man, I disagree with some of Hitler's social policies, but I voted for him anyway. I'm sure it'll be alright.
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She supported her husband dropping bombs on a sovereign nation for the sole purpose of giving people something to talk about instead of his committing sexual harassment on federal property. Well, Hilary's own, most trusted, aid has made that claim anyway.
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Ressurecting the old "You're pinko commies. NO, you're fascists." for the win!
Ex-Soviets were comparing Bernie to Breshnev.
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Or somebody dies, mysteriously. I still wonder about JFK Jr's plane going down within two months of her grabbing the New York Senate Seat.
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I pretty much ignore any sentence that includes the three components of "only difference" "trump" and "clinton" because that's a sure sign the sentence is pure bullshit.
Re:Could not recall briefings because of concusion (Score:5, Insightful)
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I know you like linking to that article, but apparently you've never read even the full intro.
The answer is quite simple: The Hatch Act: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... [wikipedia.org]
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You're correct, that's why they used that server for non-governmental emails.
So why did they use that server for governmental emails? And why, when they were being investigated, did they announce that they "lost" 22 million of the emails on that server? (These facts were mentioned in the article that you claimed the GP didn't read. I recommend reading more than just the intro next time.)
The Bush administration did the same thing as Clinton did. It's just as terrible in either case. The main difference
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Who knows, since 22M emails went missing, and with Rs in charge of congress there was no big investigation.
Re:Could not recall briefings because of concusion (Score:5, Insightful)
So you want a person that don't care about security or classified information running the country?
Not saying vote for Trump. But there has to be a better person then either of these two.
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If you're voting for this woman, you're every bit the partisan idiot she was counting on you to be.
And... if you're voting for Trump, you're just an idiot. So where does that leave us?
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Leaves you an idiot, not voting for Hillary does not equal voting for Trump.
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Re:Dementia, Idiot, or Liar (Score:4, Funny)
There's no fourth option. Only combinations of these three choices.
The combination of any three options is a fourth option. Do not pass Go, do not collect $200.
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Thank god for pedantry! What are you: 12?
I'm a 47-year-old English Lit major who works in government IT.
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Wow your life sucks.
Really? I haven't noticed.
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Would you like fries with that degree - check
I have an A.A. degree in general education (1994) and an A.S. degree in computer programming (2007). I haven't worked a minimum wage job in 20+ years.
Government Worker - check
I'm two years into a five-year contract that's fully funded. If the Republicans shut down the government before or after the election, I'll still be working.
Complete Asshole - redundant
I wouldn't be working in I.T. if I wasn't a complete asshole.
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She either lied to the FBI, has dementia, or is an idiot. There's no fourth option.
Option 4. She was kidnapped by aliens between her briefing and her interview and who we currently think is Hillary is a cleverly disguised replacement.
Option 5. Bill had her replaced with a Stepford wife type robot years ago and a few bits got flipped regarding the briefing.
See, there are lots more options. Just none of them are good... or plausible. Unless you believe the stories in the World Weekly News. But they're still not good options.
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Very true in rural, conservative areas of the US.
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/02/upshot/new-geography-of-prisons.html [nytimes.com]
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