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Donald Trump Signs Pledge To Crack Down On Internet Porn (pcworld.com) 531

Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump has pledged to crack down on Internet pornography via corporate partnerships -- and he could possibly establish a federal commission on the harmful effects of porngraphy, a nonprofit announced Monday. The announcement comes a day after the New York Post ran a full-page nude photo of Melania Trump, wife of Donald Trump, on its cover. PCWorld reports: Enough is Enough, a nonprofit dedicated to confronting online pornography, child pornography, child stalking and sexual predation, published Trump's signed pledge on Monday. Trump's opponent Hillary Clinton refused to sign the pledge, Enough is Enough said, though her campaign told EiE that she supported its goals. "Preventing the sexual exploitation of youth online requires a multi-faceted holistic strategy with a shared responsibility between the public, industry, and government," Donna Rice Hughes, the chief executive of Enough is Enough, said in a statement. "The need for aggressive enforcement of existing laws and adequate funding for Law Enforcement to do the job is long overdue. For nearly two decades, bi-partisan government commissions, task forces, Internet safety groups, and researchers, who have recognized the significant risks associated with unfettered Internet access by youth, and have called upon the government and law enforcement to take aggressive action."
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Donald Trump Signs Pledge To Crack Down On Internet Porn

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  • by Anonymous Coward on Monday August 01, 2016 @04:41PM (#52624205)

    This makes no sense.

  • by Anonymous Coward on Monday August 01, 2016 @04:42PM (#52624215)

    Porn is a menace. We should ban it.

    Ban everything.
    Everything is bad.

  • by WolfgangVL ( 3494585 ) on Monday August 01, 2016 @04:43PM (#52624227)

    Let the kids fap?

  • by Anonymous Coward

    It's time for the ringer to throw the election and make sure the Clinton Coronation proceeds unfettered.

    • That's already baked into the electoral college. Since Trump alienated every possible voting bloc, he needs to win Florida, Ohio and Pennsylvania that Obama won in 2008 and 2012.
      • If Trump loses either Florida or Ohio, it's GAME OVER.
      • No Republican has ever won the presidency without Ohio.
      • The last time the Republicans won Pennsyvalnia was 1992.
      • Even if Trump does win all three states, Hillary could still win the presidency with a handful of battleground states.

      http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/31/us/politics/don [nytimes.com]

      • by sexconker ( 1179573 ) on Monday August 01, 2016 @05:29PM (#52624589)

        Those kinds of factoids are meaningless drivel. No one has done X without Y until one day it happens. Then you'll say no one has done X without Z.

        FTR I hope they both lose.

      • It doesn't help that Trump seems to be willfully trying to throw the election.

      • by Darinbob ( 1142669 ) on Monday August 01, 2016 @08:39PM (#52625495)

        Never mind all that stuff. Trump has shown that he can break all the rules of thumb. Statistics isn't working well here. Statistics won't work well here because there isn't enough data to be meaningful.

        As pointed out by the fivethirtyeight.com person when asked why he got it all wrong about Trump in the primary, after several reasons are given, it ultimately comes down to the very low number of elections we've had for where we've had primaries without incumbents running. We didn't have presidential primaries until the 20th century, and we didn't have binding presidential primaries until after 1968. In a popular primary process, someone like Trump may not really be a rare outlier.

        Although conventional wisdom (as created by news media) says those three states are vital, it's only because those states tend to be relatively large swing states. But the definition of swing state depends upon how far back in history you go. Every election is different, and with changing times each state also becomes very different. Add ten years and the demographics aren't the same anymore. Ie, the anti-Castro rhetoric that won you Florida awhile back might backfire today or in four years. Looking at election maps we don't have blue versus red states, they're all slighty different shades of purple. They're 48-52 very often. Get a solid Republican candidate who's not crazy then it's not inconceivable that California could be a red state, but this gets discounted because every thinks it's locked up and will never swap despite us having several Republican governors in recent history.

        So basically, if you're using stats and math to figure out what's going to happen with Trump then you're going to need to use much more sophisticated math than they use on the news outlets.

  • by Guillermito ( 187510 ) on Monday August 01, 2016 @04:46PM (#52624253) Homepage
    if this isn't a deal breaker for the 22% of slashdotters who would vote for Trump https://slashdot.org/poll/2997... [slashdot.org]
    • by Anonymous Coward on Monday August 01, 2016 @04:54PM (#52624309)

      Nothing is a deal breaker for Trump fans. Trump could rape the father of one of his supporters and the supporter would cheer. Or at least blame Hillary.

      • Re: (Score:2, Insightful)

        by Anonymous Coward

        As opposed to Hillary supporters who still support her after...
        her email problems
        lying under oath to Congress
        taking bribes to sell a uranium company to Russia
        twisting election fund raising laws
        taking bribes to sell hypersonic cruise missile technology to Russia (my best guess on what Wikileaks is threatening to release now)
        stealing taxpayer money through a laundering scheme involving Laureate University
        calling Pat Smith, the mother of Sean Smith who died working for embassy, a liar
        lying to the public about

        • by Alomex ( 148003 ) on Monday August 01, 2016 @06:45PM (#52625011) Homepage

          One big difference though. No Hillary supporter as of yet has clapped wildly after hearing about her mistakes. They acknowledge they are bad things and chose to support her in spite of these flaws. Trump supporters on the other hand cheer after each of his despicable comments calling most Mexican immigrants rapists, calling John McCain (who declined special offers of mercy in Vietnam to support his fellow soldiers) a coward, and insulting the mother of a brave soldier who gave his life for this country.

        • by Fire_Wraith ( 1460385 ) on Monday August 01, 2016 @06:56PM (#52625065)
          Oh, come on, you can do better than that. The relentless scandal factory has been at work since, what, 1992? You're only citing things back maybe 8 years at most. I mean, sure, usually you want to focus on the latest shiny model, but if you're going to list all the models, you need to include the classics. What about Whitewater, the White House Travel Office, Vince Foster, and all that jazz?

          So really, you want to know why Hillary supporters don't give a sh*t about your list of scandals?

          It's because they stopped treating the people screaming about them as if they had any shred of credibility. I've heard people crying "Wolf!" for 24 fscking years. Where? Where's the wolf? The entire right wing has yet, in 24 fscking years, to actually nail her on anything, no matter how minor. Either she's the slipperyest smoothest super-criminal the world has ever seen, or maybe, just maybe, it's a bunch of politically motivated trumped-up (pun intended) BS.

          And hey, maybe there's some actual dirt in there, but when the conservatives are so busy trying fling mud by the ton, you'll just have to forgive me if I find it a little difficult to see.
          • The relentless scandal factory has been at work since, what, 1992?

            Better get used to it. We're going to be hearing this drivel for the next eight years.

            If they didn't want her to be president they shouldn't have matched her against someone who attracts so much attention from neuroscientists.

        • by AK Marc ( 707885 ) on Monday August 01, 2016 @08:40PM (#52625505)

          taking bribes to sell a uranium company to Russia

          Taking bribes to allow a canadian company to be sold to russians. Hardly a scandal, Canada sold a company! And no evidence. Just some people who gave donations and had a favorable result. If that's the bar, then Bush should be in prison for all the bribes he took from energy and telecommunications companies.

          • Probably, yeah. That's how bribery cases are usually decided: based on a pattern of behavior. I don't have to have the officer on tape saying "I'll let you out of this $100 ticket if you buy $50 worth of my daughter's girl scout cookies," you just need to find several cases where the officer stopped someone, didn't give them a ticket, and then *coincidentally* they just *happened* to buy all those cookies. We could indict and convict off that.

            Same thing with HRC's pay-to-play state department. Bill Clinton

      • by Sir Holo ( 531007 ) on Monday August 01, 2016 @07:36PM (#52625241)

        "I could stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot someone, and not see any decline in my popularity." –– Donald Trump

        Yes, that is a REAL quote.

      • by BitterOak ( 537666 ) on Monday August 01, 2016 @08:09PM (#52625367)

        Nothing is a deal breaker for Trump fans. Trump could rape the father of one of his supporters and the supporter would cheer. Or at least blame Hillary.

        People like Trump supporters are nothing new. This is from Shakespeare's Julius Caesar (Act I Scene2):

        "Three or four wenches, where I stood, cried 'Alas, good
        soul!' and forgave him with all their hearts: but
        there's no heed to be taken of them; if Caesar had
        stabbed their mothers, they would have done no less."

        • by MillionthMonkey ( 240664 ) on Monday August 01, 2016 @09:45PM (#52625797)
          Nazi leader Hermann Goering, interviewed by Gustave Gilbert during the Easter recess of the Nuremberg trials, 1946 April 18, was quoted in Gilbert's book Nuremberg Diary:

          GOERING: Naturally, the common people don't want war; neither in Russia, nor in England, nor in America, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But, after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship.

          GILBERT: There is one difference. In a democracy the people have some say in the matter through their elected representatives, and in the United States only Congress can declare wars.

          GOERING: Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country.

    • by Idou ( 572394 ) on Monday August 01, 2016 @04:56PM (#52624327) Journal
      You underestimate the impressive levels of cognitive dissonance practiced by Trump supporters. . . (watch them rant against this post with their one free hand. . .)
  • by Anonymous Coward on Monday August 01, 2016 @04:46PM (#52624257)

    Build a firewall and make the internets pay for it!

  • So much for being the cool candidate.

  • Sigh... My country (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday August 01, 2016 @04:48PM (#52624271)

    America, land of the sexually repressed and violent.

  • by jimbob6 ( 3996847 ) on Monday August 01, 2016 @04:50PM (#52624279)
    Man he is really dedicated to getting back that sex tape.
  • No porn? (Score:2, Insightful)

    by Anonymous Coward

    Without porn the Internet would be a ghost town.

  • Donna Rice Hughes? (Score:5, Insightful)

    by 110010001000 ( 697113 ) on Monday August 01, 2016 @04:53PM (#52624305) Homepage Journal
    Wasn't Donna Rice Hughes the chick that was screwing the married Senator Gary Hart? I remember her. She was screwing a married man. Let me guess: she is a Born Again Christian? Christians would be funny if they weren't so harmful and pathetic.
  • by campuscodi ( 4234297 ) on Monday August 01, 2016 @04:54PM (#52624311)
    I'm pretty sure he just lost the election right now...
    • I'm pretty sure he just lost the election right now...

      He signed a pledge, no one expects Trump to feel beholden to any pledges he signed, his foreign policy is based on getting either ignoring existing pledges or getting other countries to pay for the US to follow them.

      I'd be surprised if he even took time to read this pledge!

    • I'm pretty sure he just lost the election right now...

      I'm pretty sure I just lost my election (but not my speech impediment).

    • by swillden ( 191260 ) <shawn-ds@willden.org> on Monday August 01, 2016 @05:59PM (#52624769) Journal

      I'm pretty sure he just lost the election right now...

      I doubt it.

      There's a large portion of his base that will think this is an awesome idea. The rest just won't believe it. Spend some time talking to Trump supporters and you'll quickly find that they're very adept at ignoring anything he says that they don't like, with a variety of excuses. I expect the "rationale" for ignoring this one will be that the president doesn't have the power to do that without the help of Congress and that Congress won't do it.

      Of course, the same is true of many things his supporters *do* like, but they don't bother applying the same logic. It's really rather incredible. He says outrageous things that land all over the political landscape, and his supporters grab onto the pieces they like with both hands crowing that he's the only one who dares to say it like it is, and simultaneously discard the rest, either because he's just joking, or because he can't actually do it... or even because he has to say that to appease some other part of the base. The degree of doublethink implicit in that last excuse is mind-boggling, but there it is.

  • miss America swimsuit competition?

  • This is a perfect manoeuver to peak against net neutrality rules. "Well, porn *is* legal, so if we craft specific online channels, those who want evil, filthy smut can pay a premium for it." This will be the first step in covering that slippery slope in Astroglide.
  • I assume what he means is now that he's removed Melania's Bio website he will be issuing take down notices to all the sites sporting nude photos of his wife during her modeling career.

  • by ChromeAeonium ( 1026952 ) on Monday August 01, 2016 @05:08PM (#52624417)

    I think the real interesting bit, which the summary decided to leave out, is in TFA:

    Clinton's campaign reportedly says that it supports the pledge's goals.

    If memory serves (and I could be wrong), wasn't Clinton one of the advocates for greater control of video games back when that was the menace du jour that we must protect children from?

  • by Apharmd ( 2640859 ) on Monday August 01, 2016 @05:17PM (#52624491)
    The NY Post just ran a story this weekend about Melania Trump posing nude in a lesbian-themed photo shoot. This is open hypocrisy, really.
  • by AaronW ( 33736 ) on Monday August 01, 2016 @05:21PM (#52624521) Homepage

    I wonder if this has anything to do with the nude [nypost.com] photos [thesun.co.uk] of Trump's wife.

  • by smooth wombat ( 796938 ) on Monday August 01, 2016 @05:52PM (#52624719) Journal

    Just like George Bush expanded the size and intrusion of the government over the people via the TSA and the Department of Homeland Security, Trump will blindly follow his lead and create an even larger, and more expensive, federal government while at the same time claiming he'll cut taxes to increase revenue.

    Where have we heard this fantasy before?

  • by Anonymous Coward on Monday August 01, 2016 @06:08PM (#52624813)

    I am completely against this. It bothers me on a couple different levels.

    1) Can we stop using bigger government to solve problems that don't need to be solved by government? There are plenty of routers and filters available for parents to purchase if they don't want their children to see anything bad on the internet. Or better yet, if you are so concerned, maybe don't give your child their own phone at 7 years old and then expect the government to protect them.

    2) As a Christian, I don't want to restrict your God given freedoms by imposing my morals on you. I think I have a better way. I don't want to force that on you. I want you to see (through how I live my life) that my way is better and willingly and voluntarily joining me on this path. I am so tired of Christians trying to force religion on other further alienating non-Christians.

    Do I think porn is good for relationships? Absolutely not. But why is it the governments responsibility to "protect" relationships? If you want messed up relationships (assuming porn causes messed up relationships), go for it, it is your God given right.

    My apologies to everyone whose God given freedoms have been restricted by Christians who are trying to do "what is best for you" and treating you as children as a result...

  • by Bartles ( 1198017 ) on Monday August 01, 2016 @06:23PM (#52624889)

    I'm sick of headline having nothing to do with the post. Even the article's headline had nothing to do with the article. There's a huge difference between cracking down on porn, and cracking down on child porn.

  • Bad Headline (Score:3, Informative)

    by Big_Oh ( 623570 ) on Monday August 01, 2016 @06:39PM (#52624973) Homepage
    If you click deeply enough to read the actual pledge, it's about child porn and the use of the internet to groom and target children for sexual exploitation. There's something vague about keeping kids away from viewing porn, which could mean anything and so means nothing.
  • by mr.witherspoone ( 852955 ) on Monday August 01, 2016 @08:00PM (#52625339)

    He has one demographic he's ahead in, white men, and he wants to end internet porn? It's official August 1st Donald Trump conceded to Hillary Clinton.

  • by Sigvatr ( 1207234 ) on Monday August 01, 2016 @09:43PM (#52625787)
    I am prepared for the apocalypse. I have enough porn to last decades. Trump will have to take my porn from my cold, hard wanking hand.
  • by superdana ( 1211758 ) on Monday August 01, 2016 @10:04PM (#52625881)
    First they came for the Immigrants, and I did not speak out—
    Because I was not an Immigrant.

    Then they came for the Muslims, and I did not speak out—
    Because I was not a Muslim.

    Then they came for the Porn, and you can bet your ass I spoke out then!

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