The Intercept Releases First Batch Of New Docs Leaked By Snowden (theintercept.com) 55
executioner quotes a report from The Intercept: The Intercept's first SIDtoday release comprises 166 articles, including all articles published between March 31, 2003, when SIDtoday began, and June 30, 2003, plus installments of all article series begun during this period through the end of the year. Major topics include the National Security Agency's role in interrogations, the Iraq War, the war on terror, new leadership in the Signals Intelligence Directorate, and new, popular uses of the internet and of mobile computing devices. You can download this batch directly here, or download the documents via Github.
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How about instead of this batch release nonsense we dump all of the data and get the public outrage all of the way at once, instead of spoonfeeding it to the masses at the controlling entities' behest?
The public's collective memory is short.
The thinking is that when you keep it in the news, no one will forget.
Of course, that can backfire when everyone becomes numb to the stories.
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How about instead of this batch release nonsense we dump all of the data and get the public outrage all of the way at once, instead of spoonfeeding it to the masses at the controlling entities' behest?
The public's collective memory is short.
The thinking is that when you keep it in the news, no one will forget.
Of course, that can backfire when everyone becomes numb to the stories.
It will backfire the second you admit to someone interested in the facts of the matter that you are withholding them for dramatic effect.
Your agenda is then obviously dramatic effect, not transparency.
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N-n-n-n-nailed it.
Then again, as the voting here shows you, if you do anything besides put Ed Snowden and anyone associated with his leaking of data on a pedestal, you've already lost. People don't give a flying fuck about content: they care about the presentation.
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Yes, you can, idiot boy.
It is valuable to know that the NSA was tracking every phone number dialed in America. Who called who.
And yet, nobody was killed because we found out the NSA was doing this.
Hell, the NSA thinks MAYBE all these phone numbers assisted with 2 terrorist related events. At least, that's what they told Congress, under oath.
Of course, the FBI is going "whee!"
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Hell, the NSA thinks MAYBE all these phone numbers assisted with 2 terrorist related events. At least, that's what they told Congress, under oath.
In an unclassified environment.
Most of this stuff is classified, you can go to federal prison for talking about it in unclassified environments. Take from that what you will.
I would say that the crap in Ukraine can directly be attributed to the leaks, as Russia learned how to work around the intelligence agencies so that their movement to annex parts of the Ukraine was not detected until it was too late.
I would also expect that the Paris attacks could have been stopped with the access they allegedly had.
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Yeah, that's the trick. You just make your failure "classified".
And there is no chance anything Snowden released surpised Russia. They have well funded, very experienced foreign and domestic spying agencies.
I would expect that only the dumbest, most naive "terrorist" would get caught using the stuff Snowden released. What catches terrorists is hard work, boots on the grounds. Trying to do it sitting behind a desk gets people killed.
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http://www.theguardian.com/wor... [theguardian.com]
Russian guard service reverts to typewriters after NSA leaks
Yeah, nothing at all surprised Russia about the leaks, they changed to typewriters and couriers because of their normal paranoia.
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Excerpt (Score:1, Funny)
05/15/2003
CIA> We'll stop the waterboarding if you tell use where the WMD are located.
Captured Iraqi> But haven't had them in decades!
CIA> To POTUS: There are no WMD in Iraq.
Bush> To Congress: We stopped Saddam Hussein just in time from using WMD against our country.
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Office Newsletter. Huh. (Score:2)
Slow leaks day?
Re: And considering the content... (Score:1)
Republicans hate anything that helps the people.
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Actually, they hate what keeps them from accumulating more money. That it hurts the country is just a side effect. Nobody is evil for evil's sake, it's just simple greed, that's all.
That is how Snowden has been contained (Score:2)
CIA (and many other agencies) spends a ton of money on AWS (Amazon Web Services). Jeff Bezos is an owner of Amazon. Same Jeff Bezos funds the website intercept, which becomes a non-productive avenue to publich Snowden's revelations.
Many of the Snowden's revelations were already known, and his leak did a great public service.
That being said, Snowden's files were expected to be a never ending source of new exciting revelations. Did not happen. Greenwald was bought off, but he didn't know it at that time.
Nobody cares. (Score:5, Interesting)
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It's just fodder for the low political literacy crowd. The leftist nutjobs have put him on their "hero of the people" pedestal, the right-wing nutjobs wanted his head as soon as someone could frame the leak in a treasonous tone, meanwhile anyone with any familiarity with the PATRIOT act was already out of breath from half a decade of complaining that the exact kind of shit Snowden leaked was already legal.
Re:Nobody cares. (Score:4, Insightful)
I don't think it's quite accurate to say everybody thought this was going on. There have been studies showing that people are changing their behaviors online and are becoming more afraid to speak out on controversial issues as a result of the revelations. It would be more accurate to say that most simply don't care or think it's okay as opposed to the minority that do.
Re:Nobody cares. (Score:5, Insightful)
Before the leaks: "LOL stupid conspiratard thinking the govt spies on everyone, put your tinfoil hat back on" (don't tell me you never saw sentiments like this)
After the leaks: "Well duhh, of course the govt spies on everyone stupid. Everybody knows that, that's been common knowledge 4evar!"
TL;DR there's always assholes saying "nothing to see here".
Re:Nobody cares. (Score:5, Insightful)
No. Everyone who used to argue with me about FBI and NSA spying has been very sheepish post Snowden. I don't even have to say "I told you so." And none of them want to defend the lies and subterfuge fed to the press by the security apparatus. None of them think electronic messages should be exempt from privacy and they don't really want to sneak off to the park and make sure they aren't followed to exercise what they were told in grade school was somehow "inalienable." We've been alienated. People care deeply, but they do not think the solution is within gov't. The solution being pursued is to up the game in the private sector. Movements like Let's Encrypt, Apple defaulting to secure crypto, WhatsApp deploying crypto, etc. Once people no long think the NSA is protecting them, they seek solutions outside their reach. They already know the agency is immune to Congressional oversight.
Everyone in IT security cares. (Score:2, Insightful)
If you don't care, it suggests that you have no interest in computer security, which in turn suggests that this is probably the wrong forum for you.
Snowden's revelations have had an absolutely massive worldwide effect on everyone in the industry, from the lowliest techie with an interest in their personal privacy and machine security, all the way up to the largest megacorps like Google and Apple. What's more, it has dramatically altered the encryption landscape in everyday computing, focused many developer
Re: Everyone in IT security cares. (Score:2, Insightful)
If the government can get into your stuff so can the criminals.. Even with the far out presumption that the two are always mutually exclusive.
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Your lack of understanding is amusing.
There is no technical difference between criminals getting into your stuff and the government getting into your stuff. Security is an equal opportunities provider.
And that's why if you do not want criminals getting into your stuff and taking your money, you'd better be secure against all other parties gaining access too.
Re: Everyone in IT security cares. (Score:1)
The government doesn't want your money, it's useless to them, and they can print their own. What they want is for you to let them do whatever they want. So they want to keep you too busy, and too self-absorbed, to care what they do. So the cost of living is still just beyond our paycheques, no matter what they are, and no matter that we're an order of magnitude more productive than ever. We should be down to just working two days a week, spending the rest on civic activities.
Furthermore, the ano
Re:Nobody cares. (Score:5, Interesting)
nobody cares because the press is afraid to do their jobs. they are spoon fed shit from the government and other Big Things(tm) and they are not going to bite the hand. this is how things have been for over 20 years, now. our press is castrated and useless.
people are not told what is going on. how many people have read about the widespread h1b abuse? no one. every normie I talk to and tell this about, its all new to them. they act (and its real) like they never heard anything about this.
the news does not do their job. they are like domesticated dogs. they learned that they could be wild and fight for food, or be tame and get food for just begging and being 'good' to humans. the media is called a lapdog and its not a coincidence.
control the media and you control the message. our government learned that well and, sadly, executed well on it.
our people are kept ignorant by 'news' and 'entertainment' (including sports and the latest R vs D distraction).
they have it down to a science. they really do.
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This.
And, in that family of ideas, we have the "privacy," issue.
People don't give a flying fuck about privacy.
Re:Nobody cares. (Score:4, Insightful)
People do care. Privacy has become a selling point. Without Snowden I doubt that both major mobile operating systems would be going to unbreakable encryption by default, and strongly resisting attempts by governments and law enforcement to create back doors.
The internet has changed a lot since Snowden. Encryption is a lot more common now. There is a sense of urgency that everything should be encrypted, from the most mundane web site to all communications. Look at the number of encrypted chat apps that exist now, and how most of the popular ones have implemented encryption.
We always knew that GCHQ worked closely with the NSA, but he revelation that they are basically a subsidiary and guilty of many millions of crimes was still quite a shock to most people. It has lead to legal challenges and a proposed change in the law to make what they are doing legal, which has brought attention to the issue and a lot of on-going debate about it.
NSA propaganda (Score:2)
So now, instead of knowing what they were doing against the world (including America), we are going to read their marketing team's newsletter. With all the travel abroad and be important for your country stuff. Disgusting.