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Yelp For People To Launch In November 447

HughPickens.com writes: Caitlin Dewey reports in the Washington Post that 'Peeple' — basically Yelp, but for humans will launch in November. Subtitled "character is destiny," Peeple is an upcoming app that promises to "revolutionize the way we're seen in the world through our relationships" by allowing you to assign reviews of one to five stars to everyone you know: your exes, your co-workers, the old guy who lives next door. You can't opt out — once someone puts your name in the Peeple system, it's there unless you violate the site's terms of service. And you can't delete bad or biased reviews — that would defeat the whole purpose. "People do so much research when they buy a car or make those kinds of decisions," says co-founder Julia Cordray. "Why not do the same kind of research on other aspects of your life?"

According to Caitlin, one does not have to stretch far to imagine the distress and anxiety that such a system will cause even a slightly self-conscious person; it's not merely the anxiety of being harassed or maligned on the platform — but of being watched and judged, at all times, by an objectifying gaze to which you did not consent. "If you're one of the people who miss bullying kids in high school, then Peeple is definitely going to be the app for you!," says Mike Morrison. "I'm really looking forward to being able to air all of my personal grievances, all from the safety of my phone. Thanks to the app, I'll be able to potentially ruin someone's life, without all the emotional stress that would occur if I actually try to fix the problem face-to-face."
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  • by smooth wombat ( 796938 ) on Thursday October 01, 2015 @12:23PM (#50636175) Journal

    What could possibly go wrong?

    • What could possibly go wrong?

      Oh, nothing, absolutely nothing could possibly go wrong with this.

      • by ArmoredDragon ( 3450605 ) on Thursday October 01, 2015 @12:53PM (#50636519)

        Sounds good. Perhaps everybody on slashdot should start with a review of Bennet Hasselton.

        • by JustAnotherOldGuy ( 4145623 ) on Thursday October 01, 2015 @01:00PM (#50636601)

          Sounds good. Perhaps everybody on slashdot should start with a review of Bennet Hasselton.

          Is it true that Bennet Hasselton smokes crack and molests children?

          I'm not saying it's true, I'm just asking questions.

          • by gstoddart ( 321705 ) on Thursday October 01, 2015 @01:48PM (#50637067) Homepage

            I believe you've just demonstrated the point .... the ability for random people to review other people without their consent is going to lead to libel and slander.

            You can't just say "well, someone reviewed you, tough".

            This is going to lead to lawsuits and all sorts of crap. What an idiotic thing to be building. I just don't see this being anything other than a series of bad outcomes, all because someone thinks they have a business model.

            Trusting the founder of an app who stands to make money from it telling us this will be used responsibly is like having an oil company tell us there will be no spills .. you simply can't trust them to be doing anything other than serving their own interests.

            "positivity app for positive people" is a nice slogan, but it's competely bullshit.

            • by cayenne8 ( 626475 ) on Thursday October 01, 2015 @02:12PM (#50637261) Homepage Journal

              I believe you've just demonstrated the point .... the ability for random people to review other people without their consent is going to lead to libel and slander..

              You can't just say "well, someone reviewed you, tough".

              This is going to lead to lawsuits and all sorts of crap.

              Yep. and while I'm generally against meddling lawyers and all...THIS is one online app I'd like to see crucified by the legal types out there.

              This can hit and hurt people, and not being able to OPT out (or better yet require you to OPT IN) is going to potentially be able to hurt a LOT of people. There's a reason I and many others don't do Facebook or other social media. I don't want connections to others, friends or foes at all, much less have them rating me on my personal traits and habits.

              If others was to participate in things like this, sure, ok..have fun. But don't include ME in there if I don't want to participate.

              If I find myself mentioned on there at all, I for one will be immediately hiring an atty and begin legal proceedings. In this case, it is easily justified.

              • Yep. and while I'm generally against meddling lawyers and all...THIS is one online app I'd like to see crucified by the legal types out there.

                To play devil's advocate, what's the legal basis for "crucifying" an app like this? Random people already have the ability to review anyone without their consent. To my knowledge, there's no law that prevents me from starting my own personal website and publishing my personal opinions about you or anyone else I might care to "review".

                If what I say is untrue or grounds for harassment there are already laws in place to deal with that (as the GP suggested, that's what libel laws are for), but you would (as f

                • Well I think the law would be able to prevent somebody from extorting you in a manner I've seen mentioned. Basically if somebody uses spambots to shit on your reputation and extorts you for money to have it removed, and if you've got proof of that occurring, then you have the right to ask the site admin to remove the sham reviews, and if they don't, then they can be held liable for extortion.

                • by Grishnakh ( 216268 ) on Thursday October 01, 2015 @05:01PM (#50638937)

                  The problem I see right away with this app is the problem of anonymous reviews. If the app only allows people to review each other but from real-name accounts, so you know exactly is criticizing you, that's free speech, and it still allows you to sue to reviewer for libel. However, if the app allows anonymous reviews, I can't imaging how it won't be immediately bogged down in libel lawsuits against the company itself, considering how damaging this can really be to people.

          • by j2.718ff ( 2441884 ) on Thursday October 01, 2015 @02:32PM (#50637473)

            Is it true that Bennet Hasselton smokes crack and molests children?

            I'm not saying it's true, I'm just asking questions.

            I read the article, and apparently, only positive reviews are visible for a person until that person signs up. Fortunately, I suspect there's a workaround... continuing with your example:

            Of all the accused crack-smoking child molesters, Bennet Hasselton is by far the best!

            • by WillAffleckUW ( 858324 ) on Thursday October 01, 2015 @02:35PM (#50637507) Homepage Journal

              I rated Bennet Hasselton 5 stars in Professional "delivered crack to children in a professional and timely manner"

              • I rated Bennet Hasselton 5 stars in Professional "delivered crack to children in a professional and timely manner"

                Exactly. Who decides what a positive review is? Anything ranked 5 stars? So, if I mark 5 stars and say terrible things, it is open for all to see?

                Also, how can I look at the bad reviews about myself in order to determine whether I want to risk them becoming public? Sign up? Which automatically makes them visible for all?

                And then there is this:

                You can’t opt out — once someone puts your name in the Peeple system, it’s there unless you violate the site’s terms of service.

                So the only people not in the system are the ones who violate the terms of service? Well, plan on your terms of service being flagrantly violated.

                And, the founde

            • by GrandCow ( 229565 ) on Thursday October 01, 2015 @03:00PM (#50637715)

              I read the article, and apparently, only positive reviews are visible for a person until that person signs up. Fortunately, I suspect there's a workaround... continuing with your example:

              Of all the accused crack-smoking child molesters, Bennet Hasselton is by far the best!

              What's stopping someone who wants to write a review from signing up under the persons name in order to get the bad reviews to show?

      • by AmiMoJo ( 196126 ) <mojoNO@SPAMworld3.net> on Thursday October 01, 2015 @01:12PM (#50636723) Homepage

        Correct. The plan is to create a massively controversial site that millions will rush to in order to check their own profiles, slander their enemies and astroturf themselves. Owners rake in advertising revenue, then shut down once the lawsuits become impossible to ignore and walk away rich.

        • by Pseudonymous Powers ( 4097097 ) on Thursday October 01, 2015 @01:28PM (#50636895)

          Owners rake in advertising revenue, then shut down once the lawsuits become impossible to ignore and walk away rich.

          Yeah. The thing about litigators is, they don't stop coming after you when you decide to "walk away". They only stop once you don't have any more money. I'm sure that this Peeple thing is set up as a corporation, and thus has "limited liability", but in practical terms I'm not sure that phrase really means anything anymore.

        • Almost
          The correct plan is to find some other company stupid enough to believe the above and buy out the one that proposed this idea......

          Getting rich on the internet doesn't require that you have a good business plan, it only requires that you convince someone else that you do.

    • by Kjella ( 173770 ) on Thursday October 01, 2015 @12:36PM (#50636315) Homepage

      Let's face it, what could possibly go right? They won't ever know if you've really been in a personal / employment / neighbor / whatever relationship so this will be just random unverified garbage. You could have random spam bots keeping you at a steady 5 star or 1 star average depending on what they feel like. And that's just until somebody sues the hell out of them. It's got zero credibility and is never going to get any.

    • by Spy Handler ( 822350 ) on Thursday October 01, 2015 @12:37PM (#50636337) Homepage Journal

      Chinese Communist Party recently implemented a people "rating" system similar to this:

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?... [youtube.com]

      Did Yelp just get bought out by China?

    • by willworkforbeer ( 924558 ) on Thursday October 01, 2015 @12:42PM (#50636399)
      I think I just crashed the Peeple server with my submission about Bobby Tables.
    • I'm just thinking of the one business, that Yelp went after, that would give discounts to clients that gave them bad reviews. And depending on the cleverness of the bad review, up to a 50% discount.

      Hay Yelp, bite me.
    • by trout007 ( 975317 ) on Thursday October 01, 2015 @01:05PM (#50636647)

      I doubt these people have the answer but whoever can figure this out will be rich beyond belief. The real problem with this idea is it seems like it's like Yelp which just accepts and store reviews. That is pretty meaningless in real life. There are people in my life who seem to be well loved by many but I can't stand. On the flip side there are some real jerks that I get along with fine depending on what we are doing. Going fishing is great but working on a project not so much.

      The real goal would be something like the Netflix recommendation algorithm. If I get along with someone it should see who else that person gets along with and I may get along with them even if not too many other people like them. And that is just for one type of activity and it's not always a one - one relationship.

      • I think you're right. We're on the verge of some big changes. There is a lot of whining and griping about this, but there is no stopping it.

        I think within 10 years there will be ubiquitous information and facial recognition that will utterly transform our society.

        For good or bad, probably both, we are all going to lose our anonymity. Imagine how different things will be if everyone can glance at you and their phone will tell them who you are, give a few metrics about what you are like, etc. Now when some
      • The real goal would be something like the Netflix recommendation algorithm.

        Interesting, considering that everything Netflix recommends for me is something I think absolutely sucks.

    • "It looks like you're looking for a job. It'd be a shame if potential employers saw these reviews calling you a racist. We can help you out with that, for a small fee, of course."

  • by JustAnotherOldGuy ( 4145623 ) on Thursday October 01, 2015 @12:25PM (#50636191)

    My first review of Julia Cordray on Peeple:

    "Peeple co-founder Julia Cordray is a greedy bitch who sees noting wrong with a platform that allows reliable, anonymous character assassination. I have it on good authority that she also has sex with dogs while smoking crack and watching kiddie porn."

    • by Hartree ( 191324 ) on Thursday October 01, 2015 @12:30PM (#50636253)

      Now, now. Stop insulting the dogs like that.

    • Useful, cool and funny.

    • by Archangel Michael ( 180766 ) on Thursday October 01, 2015 @12:34PM (#50636295) Journal

      You should modify it to say In My Opinion, because your opinion is free speech. Hearsay "I have it on good authority" means that they can compel your source in court, when suing you for liable or slander. And if you are knowingly spreading false reports (made up shit) you are subject to libel and slander tort.

      In My Opinion, Peeple co-founder Julia Cordray is a greedy bitch who sees noting wrong with a platform that allows unreliable, anonymous character assassination. She is a worthless twat and a horrible human being who cares nothing for her fellow humans.

      • I predict that slander litigation will be a booming business for what were previously ambulance chasers.

      • That's still pretty thin ice if you get nasty enough, saying "in my opinion" isn't a panacea.

        Back on topic, this is the most completely insane and frankly evil idea I've heard in a long time. There is no possible good that can come from this, and a whole lot of bad. I was pretty unhappy with the surveillance society up to this point but it just got a great deal worse. May they be sued into the dictionary as a salutary lesson regarding the fate of those who implement really bad ideas. I want future generatio

        • If you use Qualitative terms and epithets you're fine, because one man's ugly is another man's Julia Cordray. Oh wait, I'm being redundant.

      • by JustAnotherOldGuy ( 4145623 ) on Thursday October 01, 2015 @12:59PM (#50636583)

        Hearsay "I have it on good authority" means that they can compel your source in court, when suing you for liable or slander.

        No problem, god spoke to me in a dream and told me it was true.

        You aren't going to fuck around with my religious liberty AND my right to free speech, now are you? Because that would be bad. Almost as bad as creating a website or application that encourages free-flowing libel.

        (And finally, for the sake of all the wannabe lawyers, I never actually made that review, I only said that it would be my first review. It's like saying "I'd like to rob that bank over there and someday I'll do it." As far as I know those aren't actionable statements.)

      • Ah, but now the rest of us can say:

        I heard from JustAnotherOldGuy on Slashdot that "Peeple co-founder Julia Cordray is a greedy bitch who sees noting wrong with a platform that allows reliable, anonymous character assassination." and that he "[has] it on good authority that she also has sex with dogs while smoking crack and watching kiddie porn." I've seen nothing to contradict those claims."

        ... and be perfectly truthful and thus not libelous at all!

    • I cannot condone dogs who smoke crack and watch kiddie porn!
    • She's kind of chunky and wears to much jewelry.

  • by Austerity Empowers ( 669817 ) on Thursday October 01, 2015 @12:26PM (#50636207)

    [social network entrepreneurs] were so preoccupied with whether or not they could that they didn't stop to think if they should

    This is truly a terrible idea that can serve no good end except to that segment of the population that judges itself on popularity through conformance. My HOA would love this. I can't wait until this starts being used on job interviews.

    I for one intended to get out my personality pink plastic flamingos and get ready for the apocalypse.

    • by rwa2 ( 4391 ) *

      Eh, I'm not a great judge of character, so I would find this useful.

      If this was the exact same service except for drivers instead of "people", I'm sure everyone would be saying this is the best thing since... campaign finance reform? Well, probably even better than that.

      Imagine an overlay on your windscreen that highlighted other cars that would drive recklessly, or get into lots of accidents, or drive too slowly. You'd be able to deal with them much better by knowing how careful to be around them and th

      • by plover ( 150551 )

        The difference there is that your driving record could be based on verifiable facts taken from the public record. "You had an accident in 2013 where at trial you were found 50% at fault." "In 2012 you pled guilty to driving 75 on a 55 road when you paid your traffic ticket." This is purely random digits, assigned out of spite, fear, hate, love, admiration, or whatever. Worse, it might be digits that are bought and paid for by the account owner (hire a sock puppet army to boost your score) or as a result

  • This should be fun (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 01, 2015 @12:27PM (#50636215)

    "once someone puts your name in the Peeple system, it's there unless you violate the site's terms of service"

    Can't wait to violate me some terms of service!

    • "once someone puts your name in the Peeple system, it's there unless you violate the site's terms of service"

      Can't wait to violate me some terms of service!

      Came to say that. Can't get outta the system, get kicked!!

  • Problem solved.

    • "it's there unless you violate the site's terms of service."

      Problem solved.

      (Sloshdot ate the first quote)

  • by smellsofbikes ( 890263 ) on Thursday October 01, 2015 @12:28PM (#50636231) Journal

    This seems like a great opportunity for legions of civic-minded people to give one-star ratings to everyone and make the service useless.

  • by willworkforbeer ( 924558 ) on Thursday October 01, 2015 @12:30PM (#50636247)
    "says Mike Morrison. "I'm really looking forward to being able to air all of my personal grievances, all from the safety of my phone."

    Let the airing of grievances begin! It's a Festivus miracle!
  • by BenJeremy ( 181303 ) on Thursday October 01, 2015 @12:30PM (#50636259)

    This has bad idea written all over it, and I hope they get raked over the coals in courts around the world for it, not just for the harassment angle, but also the potential for defamation.

  • by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 01, 2015 @12:32PM (#50636269)

    My children's generation will never the immense empowerment that comes from being able to tell someone you're likely to never, ever see again in your life, exactly what you think of them, face to face, without repercussion. I spent the last week of my High School internment doing just that, and the empowerment that came from it is exhilarating to this day -- as is the fond memory of telling the 'jock star' of High School who was also Bully #1 to me from elementary age on, "That's right bitch, put the bread on top." right in front of my mother as we checked out of the local grocery store five years post graduation, where that son of a bitch still bagged groceries.

    I wonder, how long will it take for this to turn into a shit-storm, where you can easily identify the cocks and cunts with poor people skills that have nothing better to do with their life than to trash other people on yelp. WTF.

  • by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 01, 2015 @12:32PM (#50636271)

    ...is right here in this screenshot [twitter.com]. Irony alert.

  • This seems like it was specifically designed to to generate libel lawsuits.

  • No opt out? (Score:4, Funny)

    by MiniMike ( 234881 ) on Thursday October 01, 2015 @12:34PM (#50636291)

    once someone puts your name in the Peeple system, it's there unless you violate the site's terms of service.

    Challenge accepted!

    • The WaPo article claims that negative reviews will be delayed for 48 hours in case of disputes, and that if you haven't registered for the site (and therefore can't contest negative reviews), the negative reviews don't get displayed. I'm not sure I can swallow a salt crystal big enough for this. And even if your negative reviews are hidden if you're not registered, there's no way you can complain unless you take it to them outside the app, because the moment you register for the site so that you can complai

  • You can't just write bad crap about everyone on the web -- it's legally actionable. If anything you say can be proven to make someone lose money directly they can sue for damages. Good luck.. :)
    • This is why you write things like "mindmaster064 is a cunt that did not read the article and thinks Yelp is involved with this".

      There, nothing legally actionable about that. :)

  • Called Peeple Pleaser We all get together, say a few hundred thousand of us download the app, and it will automatically upvote each other into the stratosphere.
  • by jmcwork ( 564008 ) on Thursday October 01, 2015 @12:36PM (#50636311)
    Somewhere around New Coke and "Highlander 2"
  • by newbie_fantod ( 514871 ) on Thursday October 01, 2015 @12:39PM (#50636367)

    Just don't use their crappy app. From TFA...

    If you haven't registered for the site, and thus can't contest those negative ratings, your profile only shows positive reviews.

  • Now people can be judged by the mistakes they make at 14 for the job they apply for at 55! How awesome is that??ha??
  • Because human nature for many lets me down more often than not, my thoughts on where this will go.

    • People will change their phone numbers (part of the terms for someone saying they know someone).
    • People may stop using Facebook, and Facebook may ban them.
    • The site will be flooded by mostly binary distributions of 5 star vs 1 star.
    • The founders will make a fortune, regardless of if it flops.
    • A whole new industry in law will develop around quick libel suits.

    I'm gonna refer to the Han Solo quote on this one (and I'm

  • by Trachman ( 3499895 ) on Thursday October 01, 2015 @12:51PM (#50636503) Journal

    This new website will be a private competition to NSA (or other agency) databases. Or a complement. Peeple will complement everyone's profile with the insights that would normally never be recorded on internet.

    Currently US intelligence community "does not" have the files for absolute majority of the citizens. What they do have is databases, available to be queried and the profile of the websites visited, people contacted, or other activities. Imagine this as an old fashioned address book, supplemented with the key interests, ranked by popularity of the connections.

    Privacy becomes a privilege. It comes with the cost.

  • Peeple? (Score:4, Funny)

    by mccrew ( 62494 ) on Thursday October 01, 2015 @12:54PM (#50636539)
    Peeple? More like Creeple.
  • This sounds like it'll be totally useless at best and a source of libel at worst.

    From the Washington Post article:

    To join the service – which is being beta tested – you must be at least 21 and have an established Facebook account. All reviews you write appear under your real name, and are contextualised in one of three categories: personal, professional or romantic. You can improve your public “positivity rating” by writing more positive reviews than negative ones.

    I guess the "establ

    • So if I don't register for the site, then only positive comments about me get posted but if I register the negative ones get posted too? What's the incentive to register? Why not just stay unregistered and tout that 100% positive rating on Peeple?

      Sounds like an innovative and forward-thinking way to make sure I never, ever register!

      And god help them if they allow someone to falsely register as me, because if that happens my lawyers will be feasting on their entrails.

  • Ratemyprofessor.com (Score:5, Interesting)

    by goodmanj ( 234846 ) on Thursday October 01, 2015 @01:08PM (#50636671)

    The college professors of the world say "Ha ha, now let's see how much YOU like being secretly judged!"

  • If you could only post positive things, this app could have had great potential. One of those "if you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all" kind of things. It would still work the same way, but it wouldn't allow people trolling people and ruining their lives.
  • Is October Fool's Day a thing now? This has to be a joke. No lawyer or investor with any sense would get anywhere near this.

    This idea is worse than MeowMeowBeenz.

  • Panopticon: noun: a building, as a prison, hospital, library, or the like, so arranged that all parts of the interior are visible from a single point. ref [reference.com]
  • There is a petition on change.org to ban this app:

    https://www.change.org/p/apple... [change.org]

  • by GodInHell ( 258915 ) on Thursday October 01, 2015 @01:17PM (#50636771) Homepage
    I look forward to suing the hell out of Peeple.
  • by saccade.com ( 771661 ) on Thursday October 01, 2015 @03:40PM (#50637983) Homepage Journal
    I think we're back in the world of WebVan and Pets.com.
  • by ebusinessmedia1 ( 561777 ) on Thursday October 01, 2015 @09:34PM (#50641287)
    Libel and slander laws will be useful for prosecuting the dolts that start "rating" people on Peeple. I would also think that many Plaintiffs will include Peeple's principals and investors inn those lawsuits. That will keep their burn rate real hot!
  • by aralin ( 107264 ) on Thursday October 01, 2015 @10:56PM (#50641697)

    This makes me really happy to have a dual citizenship in one of the EU countries. The right to be forgotten law will be awesome for this site.

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