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Sen. Feinstein Says Anarchist Cookbook Should Be "Removed From the Internet" 538

schwit1 writes with this snippet from Ars Technica: In the wake of the Thursday arrest of two women accused of attempting to build a bomb, Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-CA) wrote on her website that the 1971 book on bomb making, which may have aided the terror suspects in some small way, should be "banned from the Internet."

The senator seems to fail to realize that not only has The Anarchist Cookbook been in print for decades (it's sold on Amazon!), but also has openly circulated online for nearly the same period of time. In short, removing it from the Internet would be impossible.
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Sen. Feinstein Says Anarchist Cookbook Should Be "Removed From the Internet"

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  • Sen. Feinstein (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 03, 2015 @10:38PM (#49402431)

    Should be removed from congress.

    • Re: Sen. Feinstein (Score:5, Insightful)

      by DigiShaman ( 671371 ) on Friday April 03, 2015 @10:50PM (#49402481) Homepage

      Talk to the fuck-tards that keep electing her.

      • Re: Sen. Feinstein (Score:5, Insightful)

        by dgatwood ( 11270 ) on Friday April 03, 2015 @11:10PM (#49402569) Homepage Journal

        Tell the people who lead the California Republican Party to pick candidates who are closer to the center.

        • They can't win with 30% of the registered voters, not even if they dug up Ronald Reagan.

        • She's an incumbent, which gives her a big advantage. Add to that the number of rabid "I'll never vote republican EVAR" folks in California, she's got enough that she'll never get voted out.

          Only bright spot is she's currently the oldest serving senator. At some point probably reasonably soon, she'll have to leave because of age.

        • With California's election system it doesn't have to be a Republican. People just need to vote for another Democrat in the primary. The 2 candidates with the most votes in the primary advance, regardless of party. Anyway, I read somewhere that she isn't running again in the next election (unless I'm confusing her for Boxer, who is not planning to run again in 2016). Kamala Harris, current Attorney General of CA, is the frontrunner for Boxer's seat. Harris is awful but some people, especially gun owners
      • Fuck-tard here. In the last election it was Feinstein vs. Fiorina. I voted for Feinstein.

        • No, Elizabeth Emken was Feinstein's opponent last time.

          Fiorina ran against (and was defeated soundly by) Barbara Boxer, California's other senator, in 2010.

    • Re:Sen. Feinstein (Score:5, Informative)

      by ShanghaiBill ( 739463 ) on Friday April 03, 2015 @10:50PM (#49402489)

      Should be removed from congress.

      She was reelected in 2012 with 62% of the vote. The only way she can lose is if the California Republican Party nominates someone sensible, and the chance of that is remote. The California Republican Party self destructed back in 1994, when they adopted a virulently anti-immigrant platform in a state that is 40% Hispanic and 13% Asian That have been mostly irrelevant ever since, and California is now a one party state.

       

      • by amiga3D ( 567632 )

        It wouldn't matter if the Republican party nominated a Hispanic Lesbian to run against her. Feinstein is part of the machine and will return again and again.

        • +1 truth.

        • Re:Sen. Feinstein (Score:5, Insightful)

          by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 04, 2015 @02:51AM (#49403227)

          You are mistaken. It would make a difference. It would show a change of attitude.

          The problem isn't that Republican party is dominated crotchety white guys (and i say that as a rotchety white guy myself). The problem is too many of those Republican crotchety white guys are racist, violent extreme nationalists, religious fundamentalists. torturer lovers, and/or have turned into Randroids.

          Not all Republicans are bad people nor are all actions of Democrats good (see Al Franken that along with Obama support mass surveillance). However a fair chunk of Republicans have gone off the deep end. They've let America's influence get to their head. The earth isn't 6000 yaars old. It's ok to be non-white American or gay. Its ok not to be religious. People in other countries create things too. Military should only be used if rare situation where there is no other choice for self-defense... not as an excuse to bully other nations.

          Lincoln was a Republican for goodness sake. Eisenhower too. Post Reagan though (who was a pretty decent President) being Republicans has turned into a horror show. Its become a synonym for who can act like a bigger asshole to the "inferiors" in the rest of the world. What's really scary though.. a fair chunk of Americans have been buying into their mystic we are Gods chosen people and the ubermensh gibberish these last few years. I shudder to think the hell on earth that will break out if the racist mystic war monger faction of the Republican party manages to win the republican ticket and go on to become President. ISIS are unquestionably fanatics but there currently is judeo-christian counterpart to found among some in America. Dangerous organizations like Heritage Foundation , war mongering neo-cons, and crazies like Coulter have nothing to do with freedom or rights.

          • The powers in the Democratic party are far more racist and violent than those in the Republican party. You need look no further than Eric Holder.
      • To be fair, we had two terms from a republican governor / governator, but he's a RINO. Also the rebuts have maintained a large enough minority to torpedo any funding legislation since any tax changes require 67% supermaj. Also they have not hesitated to legislate at the ballot box, c.f. Prop 8.

      • 8.6% registered Republicans in her district, city of San Fran. Dems could run a Dead Yellow Dog and it would still win.

        Republicans could run anyone you care to name and lose.

      • Re:Sen. Feinstein (Score:4, Interesting)

        by Opportunist ( 166417 ) on Saturday April 04, 2015 @05:33AM (#49403579)

        From over here in Europe, the whole of the US looks like a one party state with the party having two artificial flavours.

  • It has been removed from Dianne's Internet. Oh wait. She just logged into another machine. brb

  • by Idimmu Xul ( 204345 ) on Friday April 03, 2015 @10:39PM (#49402437) Homepage Journal

    yet holding a position of responsibility for it

    so fucking stupid

    • by bayankaran ( 446245 ) on Friday April 03, 2015 @11:11PM (#49402575) Homepage
      Feinstein, the late senator Ted Stevens (Internet is through tubes) are senior citizens who are behind the times when it comes to technology. They may not be able to comprehend "internet" not because they are stupid, but because its a truly radical idea which is impossible to fathom for the many who did not grow up with it. This is one of the reasons you still have senators or congress members - mostly old - who does not use even email.

      Recently Indian government tried to ban the documentary "India's daughter." The Indian home minister is a seventy plus Rajnath Singh. His first reaction is to "ban" the documentary. He knows "ban" worked in the nineteen fifties, sixties and seventies.
    • Out of touch with the world she lives in

      yet holding a position of responsibility for it

      so fucking stupid

      That's not "stupid," that's today's California.

      • by amiga3D ( 567632 )

        There are plenty of other states with representatives as bad or worse than Miss Feinstein. Although California also has Pelosi and she makes Senator Feinstein look like a genius.

    • What?
      ssh root@Internet
      rm -f /world/anarchists/bombing/cookbook.doc
  • by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 03, 2015 @10:39PM (#49402441)

    Says that Sen. Feinstein should be removed from the senate.

  • Ugh (Score:5, Funny)

    by Njorthbiatr ( 3776975 ) on Friday April 03, 2015 @10:42PM (#49402447)

    So what time is the book burning? I've got a whole library to go through. We'll have to hunt down that cloud so we can stab it with pitchforks, though.

  • Inspire (Score:4, Insightful)

    by a whoabot ( 706122 ) on Friday April 03, 2015 @10:46PM (#49402469)

    She's also mentions Inspire Magazine.

    Inspire used to be edited and mainly authored by Samir Khan Samir Khan was an American citizen, convicted of no crime; he was never even indicted. He was assassinated on orders of Barack Obama along with Anwar al-Awlaki in 2011.

    So when these criminals like Feinstein talk about banning books, note they may also mean assassinating the authors.

    Land of the Free, Home of the Brave.

    • by amiga3D ( 567632 )

      You know he went to Yemin and created Inspire to actively recruit and train individuals in the US to build bombs in their mother's kitchens and teach them how to become suicide bombers. The entire thrust of his fucking rag was to justify mass murder against American citizens. Inspire's purpose was to inspire a jihad within the United States. This piece of shit turned traitor against not just his country but his own family. I've never really been a fan of President Obama but occasionally he does do good

  • hostfile her (Score:4, Insightful)

    by deadweight ( 681827 ) on Friday April 03, 2015 @10:50PM (#49402485)
    Can I suggest we hostfile her computer so just about anything goes to a Barney The Dinosaur archive page or something. She will be happy and so will we.
  • Setting aside how stupid this idea is, how stupid Feinstein is, and our first amendment rights: Most of the things in "The Anarchist Cookbook" simply do not work or have absolutely terrible methods. This is a book that tells you to dry gunpowder in a pot over an open flame. It also states that you can get high by smoking banana peels. It's utterly useless and there are plenty of resources out there if you want to learn how to make explosives. This is nothing but a publicity stunt, and a terrible one at th
    • by tsotha ( 720379 )
      That's what cracks me up about these kinds of stories. Of all the books to ban, the one that will get aspiring bomb makers to blow themselves up is not the one. Amazon carries much better books on the subject. Some were published by the US government, ironically.
  • by Anonymous Coward

    The Anarchists Cookbook is simply a very bad book. Not bad because of the motives of those reading (generally), but bad because much of the instructions given in there are bad, sometimes dangerously so...

    Back when I was a kid, lets say "thinking" about playing around with this stuff, I quickly realized that things it were saying to do were really bad ideas. At the time I remember actually thinking it must have been put out by the CIA in an effort to thwart potential bombers, either by making devices that

  • by Cafe Alpha ( 891670 ) on Friday April 03, 2015 @10:53PM (#49402499) Journal

    "unclear on the concept!"

    • by rtb61 ( 674572 )

      It is about banning ideas about rapid combustion. Current easiest method of self immolation, fuel air. Get large metal container and spark plug. Make hole in container filling cap for spark plug. Put some highly flammable fuel along with a bit of liquid detergent, screw on cap with spark plug fitted. Shake it on up, the more the merrier. Attach conductive wire to spark plug, stretch wire out and move out of range, and attach other end of wire to battery. Now that one is so old that I learned about it as a

  • I saw it on a shelf at "the anarchist bookstore" about 10 years ago.

  • ... what the internet is in the first place. You can't stop ISIS from bragging about torturing people on the internet and this ignorant has been thinks she can ban a book from the internet?

    Just speak when spoken to Feinstein.

    Comments like hers are worse than that dumb comment about the internet being "tubes". That guy at least wasn't sitting there trying to hold a 21st century book burning.

    You think we've come farther and every so often you're reminded that vast portions of society including many people sad

  • Hahahahaha hahahahaHAha ahahaha AHAha! Ha.
  • because you'll poke your eyes out with that shit. it's very dangerous

  • by Irate Engineer ( 2814313 ) on Friday April 03, 2015 @10:59PM (#49402533)

    I wonder how many copies of The Anarchist's Cookbook sold this week!

    It is not hard to make dangerous things that go boom. Heck, some of the things that I blew up behind my garage when I was 13 would probably send me to Gitmo now. Believe it or not, that doesn't make me a terrorist.

    Maybe it would be smarter to examine why people might want to make bombs and kill people, and work to make a world where people don't want to make bombs and kill people, even if the The Anarchist's Cookbook was on every coffee table in the world.

    The War in Terror, just like the War on Drugs, will not be won simply by "just saying No". Until human motivations are examined, it will all be a horrendous waste of life, effort, and resources for no gain.

    • by ledow ( 319597 ) on Saturday April 04, 2015 @12:10AM (#49402783) Homepage

      Making things go boom isn't terrorism, but it's treated as such. Reading books about how things could be made to go boom isn't terrorism. Intent is behind terrorism more than any amount of relevant knowledge.

      Every driver, however, has a terrorist tool at their hands. You can buy bottles of gas for a pittance. You can't stop the tools because the tools are so damn simple and cheap and basically include every compact source of energy we have and use (I'm waiting for the first electric battery / supercapacitor terrorist, but the energy density is probably still too low to do anything but blow your own head off).

      Terrorism is designed to invite terror. To make you fear the people doing it.

      By doing what we're doing as a planet now - making terror so terrifying and then beaming it into every home - we're basically playing right into their hands. One guy, with one simple device can make the news worldwide. Even if it's a complete botch (I'll say "shoe bomber", you tell me if you've heard of him, now tell me why you now have to take shoes off in airport security when you NEVER used to have to).

      Want to defeat terrorism? Stop giving a shit about them.

      The UK was dealing with terrorists willing to bomb cities and bring down planes since the 70's (and a lot further back than that because we were arseholes). We learned how to deal with them - ignore them. Don't stop catching them, but just make their efforts have so little impact that - in this case - they give up the terrorism and become politicians.

      IRA bombings in the UK (and London especially) only invited comments like "Fuck, I'll be late for work now" or "Does anyone know which buses are still running?" Stop terrorism being terrifying and you're just some pillock who blew himself up.

      It's the same with historical "terrorism". We're all scared of Nazi's and Naziist groups. Want to destroy them overnight? Change the international symbol for toilet to a swastika, and label it a "Nazi". "Where's the Nazi, I need a shit?" Instantly destroys the power in the word and the association it has.

      But, no, places like France and Germany continue - over FIFTY YEARS LATER - to ban Nazi-related items. It's a Streisand effect. The best part of my walking-tour of Berlin I did a few years ago - they stop outside a building with a car park. They tell you that's where Hitler's bunker was. You're so fucking terrifying, your legacy is under a car park, mate.

      People don't know how to deal with terrorists because they are far too self-centered. "What if *I* was blown up?" Fuck that, what if we allow people to get infamy so easily just because they tried to blow other people up? What if we make terrorism so terrifying they are instantly heroes for our enemies and we cower in fear of them? What if we spend billions on a international manhunt for one man in the public eye proving that MILLIONS of people are scared of one man who did nothing noteworthy himself but orchestrated others? What if we live in a world where terrorists get on the news and science doesn't? Fuck THAT.

      Terrorists are cocks. And we're pandering to their media whims, like fucking dickheads. Want to see a proper reaction to terrorism?

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?... [youtube.com]

      You beat terrorists by removing the terror. Then they have nothing left.

      • I'll say "shoe bomber", you tell me if you've heard of him

        Yep, I remember him quite well. Do you know what I remember most about him? How he looked dazed, bruised, and bloodied as he was led off the plane. The real impression he made on me was this: after 9/11, anyone who tries to hijack or destroy a plane in flight is now almost certain to get the shit beaten out of them by angry passengers who have determined that it's better to take their chances and fight back. Hell, that alone makes me feel a hell of a lot more confident about airline security than any of

    • by Z00L00K ( 682162 )

      The genie is already out of the box. It won't stop the real terrorists, but it will keep the knowledge off limits for the general public so it may actually take longer to discover a terrorist. If people forget that they should look out for people stashing a ton of fertilizer for their 1/2 acre land we know it's just going to get worse.

  • by Dan East ( 318230 ) on Friday April 03, 2015 @11:17PM (#49402593) Journal

    I would expect nothing less of a true politician. Whether it's the small town politician slapping down even more stop signs after an accident occurred, a school board politician enacting rule after rule that parents and students must jump through in order to protect the school board from litigation, or a senator talking about "removing" a 40+ year old book from the internet, they all have one thing in common: doing things for the sake of being seen doing things, as if they have solutions or actual control over things they do not. It's all about the image. Smoke and mirrors.

  • by rwyoder ( 759998 ) on Friday April 03, 2015 @11:27PM (#49402627)

    "You can't take something *off* the Internet; That's like trying to take pee out of a swimming pool!"

  • What the hell makes you think they could stop a textfile even if they tried?
  • by kuzb ( 724081 ) on Friday April 03, 2015 @11:43PM (#49402701)

    If learning to make makeshift firearms, explosives, traps, poisons, and other such things interests you, The Poor Man's James Bond is a better series of books. While I don't agree with taking the Anarchist's Cookbook away categorically, it is a pretty dangerous publication in that the instructions (particularly those dealing with explosives) are not very well written, leave out critical steps and safety information. They could potentially cause serious harm or death to the person trying to make them if they do the process like the author outlines.

    Remember, this book was written by a pissed off kid during the Vietnam War. He wasn't an expert with practical hands-on experience. It was something he wrote by researching topics at the public library, and then kept submitting it to publishers until one accepted him.

  • Politicians really live in their own little bubble worlds when 99% of the ignorant masses are more tech savvy than our own lawmakers. The words "out of touch" seem woefully inadequate to describe the kind of mind numbing ignorance that we've come to expect from our own politicians. What makes it even more depressing is that this doesn't even come remotely as a surprise.

    If this doesn't make a case for term limits then I have no idea what would. Some of these people would be ill suited to even push a mop at

  • Available on Amazon ... http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb... [amazon.com]
  • Here https://www.feinstein.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/e-mail-me

  • by Skylinux ( 942824 ) on Saturday April 04, 2015 @02:42AM (#49403205) Homepage

    ~10 years old. Wanted to make a large "Silvesterknaller" (small explosive for New Years).
    Went to a public library and looked at a few old books, describing how to make black powder and other things that go boom.

    Bought a few chemicals, build an electronic igniter and it went boom. It was too easy to achieve so I lost interest in blowing things up.

    It's like the brouhaha about 3D printing guns. Every hardware store has better stock to make something that accelerates a projectile /FacePalm

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