Australian ISPs To Introduce '3-Strike' Style Anti-piracy Scheme 78
angry tapir writes Australian ISPs are considering a draft industry code, developed in response to government threats to step in and do it for them, that will implement a 'three notice' scheme for alleged copyright infringement. If an ISP customer gets three notices in 12 months, a rights holder can go to court to obtain their details and potentially take legal action against them. (The other part of the government's copyright crackdown is the introduction of a scheme to have pirate websites blocked — the government has yet to introduce the legislation for it, however.)
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If there is no punishment for false notices, send false notices about people who work with IP or ISPs. As well as politicians and their rich supporters. Problem solved.
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Report the ISP's entire IP address range perhaps, it's sure to get one of them. I'd be interested to know what evidence the ISPs will require when deciding whether a report is valid. Also, whether they will accept reports from any copyright holder (I have a photo of my cat from this morning...) or just media organizations with a lot of lawyers.
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Report the IP addresses of the sites of the major content providers that supported the legislation and the major government websites.
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All the 'three strikes' triggers is action that empowers the IP owners. You think the content providers are then going to send lawyers out to attack themselves?
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No in this proposal it is even better! You have to PAY $25 in order to challenge a strike. So it is free to accuse but you have to pay for the right to challenge?!?!?! With a you get your money back if it was a wrong accusation. Bullshit
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No, they have to pay to accuse you as well. As usual, the lawyers are the winners here
You Mean (Score:2)
What? (Score:2)
considering a draft industry code, developed in response to government threats to step in and do it for them
Last time I checked it WAS the govt's job to do law enforcement, not the ISPs.
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Last time I checked it WAS the govt's job to do law enforcement, not the ISPs.
This is part of the militarization of ISPs. You should be receiving an induction notice from your local ISP any day now.
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Report for duty, and you'd best hope it's not to do KP duty at a really remote ISP somewhere. Those USR Couriers are really dusty these days.
Re:What? (Score:5, Informative)
Traditionally it was a civil matter, publisher vs publisher. The government only provided the courts.
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This is standard practice though - apply pressure to an industry to publicly self regulate so that the government doesn't have to expend resources and political capital doing it.
We saw a similar thing with motorcycles when the zx-12 and hayabusa were released. Having top speeds over 300 and easily affordable caused bad press with people clamouring for the government to do something. In response the motorcycle manufacturers agreed to a 299km/h speed limit so they could show they were doing something and th
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Having top speeds over 300 and easily affordable
Heck. Give them a nice stretch of road in the desert and tell them to have fun.
Maybe even relax the helmet laws if they sign up as organ donors.
Go for it! (Score:1)
The tiny fraction of individuals who are ruining the Internet for the rest of us should get thrown off the web!!
That policy seems both good and fair.
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The tiny fraction of individuals who are ruining the Internet for the rest of us should get thrown off the web!!
That policy seems both good and fair.
You mean trolls like you?
VPN's are about to be.. (Score:1)
VPN's are about to be big business down under.
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It's no wonder there's so much effort in owning TOR nodes and branding it a pedorist tool. The number of people who use TOR has increased, yes, but more dramatic is the ballooning number of people aware (and interested). Say what you will about his patriotism (or
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Your assertion certainly isn't true for everyone. Yeah, some habits will change--people who _only_ download because it's a free and easy way to kill time will replace it with some other free and easy activity. That's a huge majority of pirates. But there's still a large number of people who pirate i.e. specific tv shows because they are interested in that particular show, and pirating is the easiest way to do it right now. Take away pirating and they still want their show--hell, some of them are already
We are all copyright holders (Score:5, Interesting)
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They will find a way to twist the law so that it only applies to the big corps and not the little guy.
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How right you are.
That's why I believe copyright is completely outdated. It only favors the rich companies. However there do need to be some regulatio of what one can do with regards to creative works.
In short: the creator must be given some leverage against companies seeking to profit on the fruits of his/her labor. Today, copyright does the exact opposite.
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They will find a way to twist the law so that it only applies to the big corps and not the little guy.
I think you mean to say they already have.
High priced lawyers are a huge barrier to entry for anyone who wants to sue.
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Good luck waging that battle in court. They have more money than you do. You lose.
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Aussies don'i play baseball, they play cricket.
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Aussies don'i play baseball, they play cricket.
Not true, baseball is also very popular, but cricket gets the most media attention. Likewise ball sports like Rugby League and Australian rules over Soccer although strangely soccer is well reported when Australia in in the finals.
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I've seen the baseball diamonds near my house used exactly twice. Once involved using it for fireworks. It was built around the time of the 1964 olympics like nearly every baseball diamond in the country.
When a bat is going to cost you $300 and a full uniform and gear to play on a team is close to a $1000, there isn't much demand. The Melbourne girls baseball teams positions are more about forfeits than wins.
I don't know why the local baseball teams need such formal rules with such official imported unif
Heh. (Score:1)
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What "VPN industry"? To the extent it exists at all it's just tiny. And they're going to get legislated out of existence around the world in the next few years. No government - driven by the twin demands of the US government (ok, and their own security services) - and a reactionary, right wing media (following the rules of its wealthy, right wing proprieters, who've invested in and therefore benefit from large corporations who are all in bed with most western governments because they don't need to pay ta
what if it's a full count with the bases loaded? (Score:2)
So when they lose 1/2 of their customer (Score:3)
what are they going to do?
Seems like lip service (Score:2)
Seems like someone is paying lip service to the government.
Three strikes and we let the rights holder go to court to get IP addresses? Given the rights holders have effectively had zero effect in getting the customer details from ISPs in the past, what are they going to do once they get them? If they can't get through the first stage of the legal battle and get thrown out at the discovery process, what chance have they got of actually successfully suing someone?
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I hope some kind of court order would be needed before ISPs will hand over the customer details. However
Not already there? (Score:2)
I am surprised lobbies had not already obtained such a measure in Australia.
It looks outdated now that similar laws are dying in other countries. In France the law was voted but it seems the government is not willing to enforce it. Perhaps it is related to the ruling that considered Internet access is human right.
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I am surprised lobbies had not already obtained such a measure in Australia.
It looks outdated now that similar laws are dying in other countries. In France the law was voted but it seems the government is not willing to enforce it. Perhaps it is related to the ruling that considered Internet access is human right.
And you'll pretty much be looking at the same thing in Australia.
ISP's will pay lip service is a "voluntary" industry code, the same way the news media abides by its "voluntary" industry code (that means only the ABC and SBS are held to any kind of standard, Newscorp and Fairfax can do what they like). If an ISP does enforce the will of the rights holders they'll start to bleed customers and there's one large ISP that is pretty much assured not to do anything that stupid who would love to move up from th
Unavailable Content (Score:2)
Australia is a second class citizen for content. Movies, Netflix, books, you name it. Publishers withhold content or charge much more for it because they can, just bloody minded tradition. That drives most of the "piracy".
The idea that our government is pushing to help people restrict content that is not available here anyway is appalling. If it is not available under free and equitable terms , it does not deserve copyright. But then the industry whispers in the ears of ministers and we do not have a v
Here in Canada... (Score:1)
Companies? (Score:2)
Can we get a three strikes policy for companies that charge exorbitant prices for digital media only in Australia?
You call that a proxy server? (Score:3)
THAT'S a proxy server
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Fixed the Summary (Score:2)
As an Australian rights holder, how do I opt-out? (Score:4, Insightful)
I'm an Australian author. I recently published my 10th novel. I make my living from selling books, primarily on Google Play, but also Amazon and Apple.
How do I opt out of this scheme? How do I request that even if someone downloads a copy of a book I normally request payment for without doing so, that they face no legal harm from anyone? The article mentions "rights holders" can get in contact with potential "infringers"; how would they notify me? I work from home, is my street address on file somewhere?
I found that when I ask these kinds of questions it leads to conclusions that should embarrass the people trying to implement them. The truth is; invariably, these kinds of schemes do absolutely nothing "for me" as downloads of my books would not even be detected by whatever system they want to put in place, even if I was stomping and shouting and demanding all the evil pirates ceased immediately.
This is, and always is, solely an effort to protect a foreign industry, Hollywood. An industry which gives the common Australian absolutely no consideration at all. Digital downloads are often more expensive here than the US, simply because "that's what the market will pay", which is code for, "Australia's high standard of living means we can gouge the shit out of them". Shows arrive late, miss our holidays, are screened out of order or are incomplete.
Why is this good for Australia and Australians in any way? If nothing else, and setting aside my own personal objections: why are we actively protecting a foreign industry and doing absolutely nothing to protect our domestic productions?
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Since you asked, here you go. :)
https://play.google.com/store/... [google.com]
Gotta protect (Score:1)