NYPD Is Beta-Testing Google Glass 158
Presto Vivace writes "The New York City Police Department is trying to determine how useful Google Glass would be for law enforcement. From the article: 'The New York City Police Department's massive and controversial intelligence and analytics unit is evaluating whether Google Glass is a decent fit for investigating terrorists and helping cops lock up bad guys, VentureBeat has learned. The department recently received several pairs of the modernist-looking specs to test out. "We signed up, got a few pairs of the Google glasses, and we're trying them out, seeing if they have any value in investigations, mostly for patrol purposes," a ranking New York City law enforcement official told VentureBeat.'"
Not really a good time to bring up Beta testing.. (Score:1, Redundant)
Re:Not really a good time to bring up Beta testing (Score:5, Funny)
I wonder how bad Beta slashdot looks on Google Glass?
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> I wonder how bad Beta slashdot looks on Google Glass?
Have you heard the old joke that ends in the phrase, "Coffee break is over; back on your heads."?
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That may be the hardest I've ever laughed at a Slashdot post. All my Internets to you, good sir or madam.
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Well one problem is that about 1/4 is covered by an empty white column.
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google glass offers only ~20% of usable space for content, so in other words they are match made in heaven
Timothy confirms Slashdot Classic will be gone. (Score:5, Insightful)
I think we've all read the "Slashdot Tries Something New; Audience Responds!" [slashdot.org] submission from Timothy at this point.
I was horrified to read this particular sentence within it:
Most importantly, we want you to know that Classic Slashdot isn't going away until we're confident that the new site is ready.
That confirms that Slashdot Classic will in fact be gone at some point. That, of course, also means that it will most likely be replaced with the shitty beta site.
I had some hope this morning that the complete hatred shown by so many users here would be taken seriously. Clearly, that is not the case. The very valid complaints have been totally ignored.
The beta site cannot be salvaged. It is so inherently broken that there's no possible way it could ever be ready to replace the Slashdot Classic site, regardless of how much work they put into it.
I think we should mark today, February 6, 2014, as the day that Slashdot died. This confirmation from Timothy basically guarantees that many of us will be driven away against our will, all due to this shitty, shitty beta site going live. The community just won't survive that, I'm afraid to say.
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Amazing how some people can be totally blind and arrogant, and continue marching to their death like that ...
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I was referring to Dice being on a death march.
It helps if you find out clarifications before you shout insults.
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Extend the boycott to the source of our collective angst.
That would be The Quadrangle Group [quadranglegroup.com] and General Atlantic [generalatlantic.com], the owners of Dice Holdings.
I'm sure they're not too pleased as is [edgar-online.com] with Dice Holdings, but might be unaware that their subsidiary is killing a cash cow through sheer stubbornness.
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In what way is Slashdot a cash cow for them? I've been using it for more than a decade, and never paid a penny. Most of the time I've had ads switched off. And blocked with ad-block anyway. And even those odd occasions when ads have been switched onI've never clicked on one.
I'm sure that describes much of the slashdot community.
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In what way is Slashdot a cash cow for them? I've been using it for more than a decade, and never paid a penny. Most of the time I've had ads switched off. And blocked with ad-block anyway. And even those odd occasions when ads have been switched onI've never clicked on one.
I'm sure that describes much of the slashdot community.
That the ads are there is evidence that it brings in money. Slashdot does not show ads for free, as a public service. Ad revenue are based on several factors - exposure (views), click-through, and targeting.
What brings exposure here at slashdot are the discussions. The contributors, not the headlines.
What increases targeting is that we're a fairly homogenous group. You'd have much more success hawking a PS/2 keyboard here on Slashdot than you would have hawking eyelash curlers. This makes ads on slash
Cockney rhyming slang (Score:5, Interesting)
May "olives and feta" be our code for "fuck the beta" going forward. Like, you're in a bar in Palo Alto and somebody mentions how their company is redesigning their site and you go, "so it's olives and feta" and they either know what you're talking about or they don't.
At least they're noticing (Score:2)
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I mean the post that timothy had on hearing us is approaching the level of some of the most highly commented discussions on /., and it's going to keep growing. Maybe the editors can show that to their Dice overlords and get them to back the hell off of the aggressive monetizing Beta is and refocus on a way of compromising while still keeping the damn community and not tanking the awesome place that has been /. for so very long
Any compromise that ditches Slashdot classic isn't a compromise.
There is no sane way to turn the Beta into a working system - it cannot be done incrementally, because it's so fundamentally different.
The only compromise that could work would be to support both interfaces. Which the powers that be are not interested in doing - they must have an awful lot of face invested, when they're willing to let their jobs go down the drain rather than admit failure.
Polish the turd all you want, but it's not going to bec
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Youre right.
Giving cops Google glasses will only encourage the smart ones to abuse their abilities and the dumb ones to hang clip-ons on them.
But I couldnt have read about it on my not-so-smart-but-more-secure phone, because BETA looks like garbled ass on it.
Re:NYPD (Score:4, Informative)
It optimizes the Web 3.0 paradigm for maximal user experience and audience impactfulness.
Re:NYPD (Score:5, Funny)
It optimizes the Web 3.0 paradigm for maximal user experience and audience impactfulness.
How much pepto did you have to drink before you could say that and not vomit in your mouth? The internet wants to know.
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I think you meant to ask, "What methodology did you use to leverage Procter & Gamble(tm) Pepto-Bismol(tm) to ensure stakeholder regurgative response return?" Remember, in today's fast-moving web forum environment, you have to upgrade regularly to best-of-breed communicational strategies for the optimal user experience.
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urge... to kill... rising...
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We'll network about that murder strategy of yours, X. I think it has potential for impactfulness, but we need to cover all the modalities for rapid corpsification.
(I'm really hoping to get a job with Dice.)
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The internet wants to know.
Sorry but... actually it doesn't.
Most of it has just seen the beta site for the first time, and feels a bit sick at the moment.
Will it suck as bad as... (Score:1)
,,,Slashdot's Beta?
Soooo close to endgame. (Score:3, Informative)
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Will they write a special NYPD app... (Score:2)
to tell the officer exactly how far to shove the toilet plunger up the suspects ass during an interrogation? Point out the locations of local mosques for illegal surveillance? Figure out which community to target the illegal stop and frisk campaign on next?
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Slashcott (Score:4, Informative)
Please post this to new articles if it hasn't been posted yet.
On February 5, 2014, Slashdot announced through a javascript popup that they are starting to "move in to" the new Slashdot Beta design.
Slashdot Beta is a trend-following attempt to give Slashdot a fresh look, an approach that has led to less space for text and an abandonment of the traditional Slashdot look. Much worse than that, Slashdot Beta fundamentally breaks [reddit.com] the classic Slashdot discussion and moderation system. If you haven't seen Slashdot Beta already, open this [slashdot.org] in a new tab. After seeing that, click here [slashdot.org] to return to classic Slashdot.
We should boycott stories and only discuss the abomination that is Slashdot Beta until Dice abandons the project.
We should boycott slashdot entirely during the week of Feb 10 to Feb 17 as part of the wider slashcott [slashdot.org]
Moderators - only spend mod points on comments that discuss Beta
Commentors - only discuss Beta
http://slashdot.org/recent [slashdot.org] [slashdot.org] - Vote up the Fuck Beta stories
Keep this up for a few days and we may finally get the PHBs attention. Links of note:
Discussion of Beta: http://slashdot.org/firehose.pl?op=view&id=56395415 [slashdot.org]
Discussion of where to go if Beta goes live: http://slashdot.org/firehose.pl?op=view&type=submission&id=3321441 [slashdot.org]
Alternative Slashdot: altslashdot.org [altslashdot.org]
IRC Discussion: slashnet.org #slashdot
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Who, in their right mind, would want to... (Score:4)
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Who, in their right mind, would want to destroy the cross-pollination of innovation within the global technology industry?
Dice, do you have the slightest inkling of what you are about to destroy?
Sadly (Score:3)
- Ubuntu did it with Gnome 3.
- Microsoft did it with Windows 8.
- Numerous sites have done it by forcing facebook login to leave comments, by auto-refreshing & forcing Javascript, and by turning web pages into never-ending feeds (e.g. lifehacker.com's home page).
- Now slashdot is doing it.
Doing what? Getting rid of the gray beards.
There is no money to be sucked from bright bulbs. Those who only want to facebook will carry on like nothing has happened. And ul
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To me, the closest analog is D&D 4th Edition; change everything, explicitly fuck the old guard, hope-and-pray for a rain newbies.
One year later, and thereafter: over half their customer base is gone, and the Pathfinder game is top of the heap.
But then I'm a D&D geek and probably Dice doesn't want me around anymore, either.
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Doing what? Getting rid of the gray beards.
gray beards you say? perhaps the /. user base just isn't shouting loud enough.
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"Dice, do you have the slightest inkling of what you are about to destroy?"
Yes, they know exactly what they are about to destroy.
Winston Smith (Score:2)
We have always been at war with your beta.
No Classic UI (Score:4, Informative)
I've been reading /. since '98, without the classic UI as an option you have lost me as a user. I will participate in the upcoming boycott.
Here's how it works kiddies! (Score:2)
You do something wrong? Cop has video of it.
Cop does something wrong? "Well, I was chasing the suspect and my Google Glass fell off, so I don't have footage of the event. I have NO idea how he fell down and broke both arms, both legs (multiple fractures each), and caved his own skull in so he can't testify...err...caved his own skull in..."
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"Well, I was chasing the suspect and my Google Glass fell off, so I don't have footage of the event. I have NO idea how he fell down and broke both arms, both legs (multiple fractures each), and caved his own skull in so he can't testify...err...caved his own skull in..."
sounds like the slashdot beta experience.
The bigger test is coming (Score:4, Interesting)
Several police forces have been hammering people who record police with wiretapping charges. Eventually wearable computers with 3/4G will be commonplace. I am sure that wearable video will help knock down frivolous complaints against police officers for misconduct and will sometimes magically be corrupted when recordings might prove wrongdoing.
However, eventually there will be so many people wearing so many video cameras it'll be impossible for bad apples to say all of the independently recorded videos magically were deleted or got corrupted on the floppy disc. And there will be so many citizens wearing cameras that there will be too many SD cards to confiscate.
A large enough difference in degree becomes a difference in kind. I think digital video will have as large an impact on policing as the telephone and radio. If you've been following, there was a constable in the UK who basically can be seen lying on camera about smelling alcohol on a protester's breath. (Google it, it's all over LiveLeak.) Guys like this will -- one hopes -- get cashiered. Baddies who hope to win the lawsuit lottery by inventing abuse should also expect to have a hard time.
Of course, police have become used to yelling 'Stop resisting' when handcuffing in case they're being videotaped so the Darwinian behavioural game continues.
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Pretty sure all of the wiretapping charges have been dropped by courts, sometimes with the police facing nice juicy fines.
I look forward to the day when the police confiscate my phone so I can get back 40k or so, I back up my phone and photo/video goes up to the network so have fun with the locked phone jackboots (a term I reserve for those police stupid enough to confiscate recording equipment).
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I look forward to the day when the police confiscate my phone so I can get back 40k or so
I hope this will be enough to cover new front teeth, and the discomfort that you will experience when a JBT kicks them out for you. The city may pay you $40K later, if you are lucky. However the "officer" on steroids will not be punished; he will be free to continue his "activities."
The dental chair is not the worst that can happen to you. Police can charge you with any number of imaginary violations, such as "obst
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Many of them carry bags with drugs and "spare" drop guns. If need arises, those items will be "found" on you.
What percentage of cops, do YOU think are walking around with spare drop guns and extra bags of drugs?
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Maybe 10% ? There is no way to find out. Even 10% is too many if the encounter means your conviction. Some departments are 100% honest; other are 100% corrupted. LEOs are routinely lying in court; from that it's one small step to planting evidence.
It doesn't always mean that they are rotten to the core. They simply may want to have an insurance against an error in judgement. (For example, after a chase a cop shoots a drug dealer; then he discovers that the dealer was unarmed. Well, not anymore...) Even a
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I find the notion that somewhere near 10% of all cops are waiting in the wings with bags of drugs and spare guns waiting to plant them on people, and the idea that LEO's perjuring themselves is "routine" to be almost tinfoil-hat worthy.
It's not fashionable to say here, but Io think the overwhelming majority of police are honest, hard-working people looking to serve the public interest. While I suspect there are those who get off on their position, I think most don't get off it on it much more than I "get o
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I find the notion that somewhere near 10% of all cops are waiting in the wings with bags of drugs and spare guns waiting to plant them on people, and the idea that LEO's perjuring themselves is "routine" to be almost tinfoil-hat worthy.
It's simply Pascal's Wager.
It's not fashionable to say here, but Io think the overwhelming majority of police are honest, hard-working people looking to serve the public interest.
I have met very few police officers in my life, and they all appear to be good people. How
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While your math is correct, I simply reject the premise that 10% of cops are holding bags of drugs to sprinkle over people in case of screwups.
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That's OK. We are both guessing.
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It seems cops in NY could certainly use some serious reining-in. In this incident, an officer allegedly kicked and broke the leg of a 10-YO boy who used his mother's phone to video record them, and then also sexually assaulted the mother.
http://www.nydailynews.com/new... [nydailynews.com]
Cretins like that would use Google Glass as a tool of oppression to aid with blackmail, extortion, and control of the population under their purview.
But as bad as thugs like that are, I'll bet even *they* say "Fuck Slashdot Beta!".
Strat
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It seems cops in NY could certainly use some serious reining-in. In this incident, an officer allegedly kicked and broke the leg of a 10-YO boy who used his mother's phone to video record them, and then also sexually assaulted the mother.
http://www.nydailynews.com/new... [nydailynews.com]
There's certainly interactions between cops and citizens that go badly, but this story sounds flimsy, and the video..
The cell phone captured sounds and voices during the confrontations but the video image is herky-jerky from the struggle.
It's currently she-said / cops-say.
I have no doubt the kid got injured in the struggle, but the whole thing doesn't add up as presented. The entire article is written from the viewpoint of the allegations against the police.
*shrug*
We'll see.
Hopefully NYPD beta tests better than Dice (Score:5, Insightful)
DICE, the community is trying to tell you something. We hope you are listening. This Slash Beta idea you all got obsessed with rolling out is a REALLY bad idea. You obviously tried pencil whip the user feedback portion of your launch plan otherwise the comment system wouldn't have devolved into an outright revolt against the Beta in EVERY. SINGLE. STORY. you have posted today.
Additionally, you should keep in mind that while we love Slashdot, we recognize all good things must come to and end. If this is what you want to do, then do it. However, don't expect a large portion of the community to follow you down that path. I know this because they have told you ALL DAY. I know this because this community, unlike many others, is made up of the people who have the skills and abilities to REPLACE you. I know they will replace you because you've made them passionate about the cause. Even I, a 4 digit UID and pro-lurker, am fired up enough to post! Fix this guys or the community will fix it for you.
#IamSlashdot
No you are NOT Slashdot (Score:3)
Hey, do you not think Slashdot has probably got the message now, what with endless thread hijacking and the 800+ comment story where they specifically asked for feedback?
To bring this back on topic, you posting about beta now is ever bit as much an asshole move as wearing Glass into someplace people don't want photos.
#IAmAPersonWhoWantsToReadFuckingTopicalCommentsNotYourPettyVendetta
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Well, be sure to turn out the lights then. Because once the "Just Another Wordpress" site theme is launched and the comments section, the unique feature that makes Slashdot, as we know it is gone. At that point I'll wait and see where the community migrates to and follow suite. Maybe someone will download Slashcode and attempt to launch a new site. Hell it was a good run. But all good things...
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Funny, *I* can still read the comments in Beta.
Stupid Beta Asshole.
grammar isn't that fucking hard.
Don't care Beta Asshole, and anything that pisses you off is a good thing, or at least I think, it is, and too bad , for you.
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Well, true enough, this persistent complaining about beta is annoying, but then again beta indeed is worse than OMG Ponies Slashdot. This complaining is akin to a strike, and supposed to be annoying.
Wrong Target (Score:2)
It's not annoying to the people that matter! It's only annoying the readers you morons.
In fact, do to incessant whining I've decided I really like Beta quite a bit and can we keep it just as it is? I'm going to fight hard for Beta now just because I know it pisses you off.
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In fact, do to incessant whining I've decided I really like Beta quite a bit and can we keep it just as it is? I'm going to fight hard for Beta now just because I know it pisses you off.
I already responded once to you but I had to reply to this comment: I'm in support of both the beta and the classic. I personally hate the beta and prefer the classic, but there is no technological reason why they can't run side by side. I know there are some people who like the beta. That's ok. It's their cup of tea. There is no reason why either needs to be taken away.
Before you say I'm contradicting myself in my signature, I'll also say that I merely picked up the "Fuck Beta" line because it was bei
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Consider this: if beta worked, you could just close the "petty vendettas" easily. (It's one of the things we're complaining about.) Most of the threads spawned pretty much had separate threads for beta and on-topic stories. I thought that separation was pretty amazing considering no one organized that. Yes, there were cross overs, but it wasn't that bad.
No matter what, I think you'll get your wish in a day or two and you can be happy. There's going to be a boycott and you can read your articles without
the slashdot beta is a failure (Score:2)
The fabric of spacetime is in peril (Score:2)
NYPD Community (Score:2)
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I think one of the things I really like about the NYPD is that they don't call us New Yorkers their "audience". On the side of the cars they have the words "Community Professionalism Respect".
What happened to "To Protect and Serve"?
Too many invitations to tennis matches?
Unlike this topic (Score:1)
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Improvment (Score:1)
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Will cops be driving patrol cars while (Score:2)
wearing these? And will they be liable if they are involved in a crash while driving distracted by same?
How well does it work with puke on it? (Score:2)
The primary activity of beat cops is neither tracking down bad guys nor preventing terrorism, but dealing with drunks.
Hey This Is Nice! (Score:1)
Sucks to be them (Score:1)
Google Glass will suck. Here's a typical use case:
Judge: Did Google Glass record the encounter?
NYPD Official: Yes, Your Honor.
Judge: Present that as evidence.
NYPD Official: Ok, I...oh. There was a technical failure -- it's gone!
NYPD beta testing repeal of 4th Amendment? (Score:2)
What will be the focus in augmenting the police officer in this way? Facial recognition, license plate recognition, voice recognition, and easier maintenance of dossiers on private citizens come to mind. Feeding camera video of fleeing suspects, floor plans of houses and apartment buildings, and outstanding warrant information directly to officers already lawfully interacting with people does too. This has great promise but comes with a great threat of misuse.
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Driving? (Score:2)
Will they be driving while using those? Wasn't someone arrested for wearing them? Of course they're cops so the laws don't apply the same...
Great! (Score:2)
Brooklyn Nine-Nine? (Score:1)
Slashdot beta? Do it, do it now! (Score:2)
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alt.slashdot.refugees?
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Heh. alt.geek died years ago and some of us former posters made a Facebook group called "alt.geek refugees", and I think there's a similar group on G+.
I'm sad that Usenet is basically dead save for binaries and a few text froups, some features of the newsreaders have yet to be surpassed.
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I actually looked at the beta site and I do have to say that it looks
truly horrible, yes. So, although everything is offtopic everywhere today,
apparently, let me also chime and say:
Please keep the old system in place. It wasn't broken, so please don't fix it.
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Ye flipping gods... I just went and looked at the beta site.
Whoever signed off on that design needs to have their head examined.
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I'm picturing the NYPD implementation of Google Glass to be extremely buggy. It will have a tendency to shut off right before almost every arrest
like Joo Janta 200 Super-Chromatic Peril Sensitive Sunglasses ?
also fuck beta
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http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs... [emacswiki.org]
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aside from the obvious anti-beta statement that's required -- i think having cops wearing these would be a great thing. how much less shady shit could they get away with if every interaction they have with the public is recorded and available in court? Or simply knowing that they're being recorded would probably make them think twice before doing anything borderline.
and yes, fuck be
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Seems to have been slashdotted.
It might go into history as the last site to be slashdotted.
Unless someone swallows their pride and admits they've been polishing a turd since October, there won't be any future slashdotting, because there won't enough users around to overwhelm a server. Unfortunately, it seems like management at slashdot has too much face invested, and don't dare tell the big brass at Dice Holding that the only possible way to survive is to kill their baby.
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Also, I found the Slashcode repository earlier thanks to someone pointing to the old FAQ -- here's the page for the last version, dated 2006. If someone with the knowledge/ability gets it going on a site, I think more than enough Slashdotters would contribute to pay the bills.
First of all, get it off Sourceforge and fork it at a new location.
SF too is under Dice.com. If they feel free to censor here, don't trust what they host elsewhere either.
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Repeating my comment (slightly edited) now that you're logged in:
Well, I'm seeing Slashdotters say back on Usenet, and it's definitely alive again (I started hanging out there again 3 days ago). With Slashdot admin censoring posts/sigs about any form of protest, and boycott week coming, it'd be a good idea to have somewhere to meet while people feel motivated to bother going there, rather than wait for a full website to be built. (IÂhad suggested talk.general.specific in my earlier comment, but turns
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Homeland Security has already captured 2,000 pieces of stolen art while searching for terrorists supplies or weapons being shipped into the US. In some cases individuals on the receiving end of an art purchase had no clue that the art work was stolen. The loss to the buyer can be quite large.
How large would you say the loss to the buyer is relative to the loss of the person from whom the art was stolen?