Retail Copies of Office 2013 Are Tied To a Single Computer Forever 464
An anonymous reader writes "With the launch of Office 2013 Microsoft has seen fit to upgrade the terms of the license agreement, and it's not in favor of the end user. It seems installing a copy of the latest version of Microsoft's Office suite of apps ties it to a single machine. For life. On previous versions of Office it was a different story. The suite was associated with a 'Licensed Device' and could only be used on a single device. But there was nothing to stop you uninstalling Office and installing it on another machine perfectly legally. With that option removed, Office 2013 effectively becomes a much more expensive proposition for many."
LibreOffice (Score:5, Informative)
No. (Score:5, Informative)
Compared to AppStore (Score:5, Informative)
One computer and can't move to a different computer? That's ridiculous. So if sell your computer and buy a better one, you have to re-buy the software? Or if your computer breaks? Or your computer is stolen? I wonder what your insurance company will say if your computer is stolen, they pay for a replacement, and then you say that instead of restoring your apps from your backup you want them to pay for new copies?
Re:What happens when the machine dies? (Score:5, Informative)
Re:Abandon all ships ye who enter here... (Score:2, Informative)
Microsoft is doing their damndest to make me not want to use Windows anymore. Everything about Windows 8 sounds like an anti-consumer nuisance, they've spent 6 years turning the Xbox dashboard into the worst piece of clumsy advertising software as opposed to a valid gaming console OS, and now this crap.
Yep, you're days are numbered Microsoft. Have fun burning what little bit of good will still exists for you.
Microsoft isn't -- anti-Microsoft bloggers looking for ad views without any supporting information are doing their damnedest to make you not want to use Windows anymore, specifically by targeting the anti-Microsoft bias that a specific subset of people seem to have. A second article that got all of its information purely from the first is not a confirmation, either.
An empirical test, though -- I've, in fact, moved a 2013 license between systems without any problem. YMMV, and I didn't read the license agreement, but one post trolling for ad views being referenced by a second blog trolling for ad views, both being linked by Slashdot in its continuing quest to troll its readers to drive ad views isn't really a good reason to make any decisions, except perhaps not reading Slashdot anymore.
Re:No. (Score:5, Informative)
That's Office 365.
Re:No. (Score:4, Informative)
Re:No. (Score:5, Informative)
Re:Who cares? Anyone like Office anymore? (Score:5, Informative)
Re:just use virtual machines (Score:4, Informative)
I just posted this on my facebook account. Feel free to post it everywhere.
Microsoft has just raised the bar on greed. MS Office 2013 has a non-transferable license, it can only be installed on 1 computer. So, you lose this computer or it dies or you upgrade, you lose your license to MS Office 2013. See http://www.geek.com/articles/geek-pick/retail-copies-of-office-2013-are-tied-to-a-single-computer-forever-20130213/ [geek.com] for moredetails.
Credit where it is due (Score:5, Informative)
The story linked from the Slashdot article mostly just summarizes Turner's already-concise (but still more-detailed) article, and wraps it in a different set of ads.
Re:Can I re-install on another computer? (Score:4, Informative)
But there was nothing to stop you uninstalling Office and installing it on another machine perfectly legally. With that option removed, Office 2013 effectively becomes a much more expensive proposition for many
Re:What happens when the machine dies? (Score:5, Informative)
BTW, I've seen manufacturer's procedures for changing spark plugs call for disconnecting the battery. You'd literally have to phone them and re-activate your stereo every time you replaced your plugs. This has been going on since the 90s, and it is obvious you've never heard of it.
Re:What happens when the machine dies? (Score:5, Informative)
You do realize that most OEM car radio's require an activation code to be entered before they will work if power is lost? so you change the battery or it gets run down you have to put in the access code. Now the difference is in the original owners manual/paperwork there is a card with the code on it, most people lose this and are happy the can call a dealer and get it for free by giving the VIN# of the car.
GMC & some others take it a bit further with their ECU's on some of the higher end cars in that the first time they power up they talk to all the sensors on the buss and burn them into WORM memory (real worm or presented as worm) and are useless if moved to another car (i'm not quite sure how they handle single sensor changes vs multiple).
Re:just use virtual machines (Score:4, Informative)
How would it phoning home make things different? All the software sees is the inside of the VM, which remains the same.
Phoning home could prevent two different copies of the VM running at the same time - which is not the point. If my computer dies, I should be able to transfer legally acquired software from the old, dead machine to the new one. By running Office inside a VM, the user can do that - and Microsoft would not be able to tell, no matter how often it phones home.
Re:Anything MS can do Apple can do Eviler.... (Score:4, Informative)
In fact my $20 upgrade to Mountain Lion travels with my Apple ID. I sold an older MacBook and bought a new(er) one that had Lion on it. After I signed into the AppStore my Mountain Lion install worked fine...
Or the $20 Pages or $20 Numbers applications I bought.. once... that work on any Macs I own... at the same time.
Re:just use virtual machines (Score:5, Informative)
And I'll continue to use Libre Office :) No activation, no ribbon, works fine and does what I need.
Another nice drop-in replacement is Kingsoft Office [kingsoftstore.com], a pretty full MS office clone without all the post-2007 braindamage the Microsoft added. I've been installing it for friends and family who need to work with Office documents but don't (or can't) want to pay MS's Office price (don't even get me started about Office 365, from the folks who also brought you Win8). Oh, and the whole suite is a 39MB download, compared to a DVD's-worth for MS Office. Even if you want the full-on commercial version rather than the free one (which only adds VBA and macros) that's all of $49.95.
(Not affiliated with Kingsoft in any way, just happy to have something I can drop on people's machines when they need to occasionally work with Office documents).
Re:just use virtual machines (Score:5, Informative)
I'm not sure how true the summary is tbh.
I bought Office 2013 Pro Plus through my university's website and it said it was quite clearly licensed for a maximum of 2 machines at once.
That implies that at very least the license can work on two computers and I honestly don't think there's anything magical about the copy and license I purchased even if I did get a student discount (there are perks to remaining a student for life, even alongside working full time!) - certainly the media I received looks like any other copy of Pro Plus and there is no mention of "Super special student offer that magically allows you to run it on two machines at once" though that doesn't of course mean that there aren't regional/license differences - perhaps bundled OEM copies with new machines have the restriction mentioned in TFA rather than retail versions which I presumably received?
Further, the wording "maximum of two at once" almost seems to imply that you can change the machine it's on, just as long as you don't exceed the maximum.
But in my case I was actually pleased to see Microsoft had explicitly decided to authorise you running one copy on multiple machines, if anything this is a step forward - an explicit recognition from Microsoft that people do have multiple machines and expect to not buy a copy per machine, and expect their license to work on multiple computers as mine does.