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US House STEM Visa Bill Fails 133

dcblogs writes "A Republican-led effort to issue up to 55,000 STEM visas a year to students who earn advanced degrees at U.S. universities was defeated in a House vote. It needed a two-thirds vote, or about 290 ayes, for approval. Its supporters came up short, 257 to 158. Both parties support green cards for science, technology, engineering and math advanced degree grads, but can't agree on legislation. U.S. Sen. Chuck Schumer (D-NY), who has introduced his own STEM bill, urged House leaders to seek new negotiations: 'A bipartisan compromise can easily be ready for the lame duck session. There is too broad a consensus in favor of this policy to settle for gridlock.'"
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US House STEM Visa Bill Fails

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  • H1B (Score:2, Interesting)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 21, 2012 @08:07AM (#41409389)

    Did they exhaust the H1B limit already?

  • Wow! (Score:4, Interesting)

    by Alex Belits ( 437 ) * on Friday September 21, 2012 @08:18AM (#41409449) Homepage

    So dumb, they can't pass a law that allows smart people to stay in their country WHEN BOTH THEY AND THOSE PEOPLE STILL WANT TO STAY.

  • by Chrisq ( 894406 ) on Friday September 21, 2012 @08:19AM (#41409459)
    If you pass this bill don't fall into the same trap as the UK. Only allow degrees accredited by Universities with a proven academic record, and not any "overseas branches". Even reputable Universities can be tempted by overseas operations [], and it is much harder to deal with after the event after the event [].
  • Re:Fucking insane (Score:2, Interesting)

    by lexsird ( 1208192 ) on Friday September 21, 2012 @12:38PM (#41412453)

    Here is the problem with that; we're producing bumper crops of retarded kids. Yes, the Facebook dwelling, console gaming, dope smoking idiots that we produce are hardly capable of delivering pizza. Do you know what our education systems focus on? SPORTS, yes indeed. Fuck math, science and all that jazz, little Johnny needs to worry about ball games, that's his ticket. We can produce some modern gladiators but it seems little else with our fucked in the head priorities.

    You can blame a lot of factors for this, and it's been happening for about two generations, education and the quality of people we produce is in a free fall decline. We shouldn't be importing brains, we should be exporting them. But we're not, we're fucked. Go to the hospitals and see who's working on you these days. Everyone you see has a thick accent, and guess why? We can't fill these positions with "white people" because they're too fucking retarded for the jobs.

    Go find you an old professor to talk to about this and be ready for an earful. They will tell you about how we used to have standards and now we just pass them on through for the money. If you flunk them like they should be, you will be out of a job. This kind of insanity starts way before college in k-12, when little Johnny flunks something and the parents get a lawyer and sue you for flunking their little precious. K-12 is a babysitting service not an education system. Their first years in college if not more, are used to fill in what the fuck they should already know.

    We as a society do NOT value education near as much as we should. It's fucking shameful. AND here's a bitch about the numbers. India and China each prospectively produce more honor students than we produce in students period. Did you catch that? Let me repeat it. They each have more honor students than we have students. How the fuck do you think that is going to play out in the future?

    Not to mention our politics are killing us. We have even dumber people in politics. We aren't in "fix it" mode, we are in "pillage and run for the hills" mode. Industrialism is dead here, it's about pillaging natural resources before anyone figures out just how fucked we are. Why? Because manufacturing and labor couldn't come to some kind of a truce where one wasn't burning the other to the fucking ground. Manufacturing took their ball and went home with the help of bought and paid for politicians who opened the door for them to trot the fuck out of the country. Now American labor is standing around with their cock in their hands wonder WTF happened.

    It's all seriously fucked because the ecology of the economy is broken and like a tree that's roots have been chopped up, it's all dead wood, waiting for a storm to blow it over into a heap. Well, guess what? The old myth of our economy being best during a war was trotted out and it fell flat on it's face as we are now so far in debt for that epic stupidity, that we will never see light again in our lifetimes. Yes indeed, we shot our wads on two shit for brains backwater countries that do absolutely NOTHING for our money, but keep draining our wallets, and fucking up our best kids.

    In the mean time, we have a political puppet show of two asshole parties that have proven to be nothing but political whores for whomever pays them the most. Either side would rather watch the country burn to the ground than hand the other a bucket of water to put it out. It's all about the God damned money and power for them, they are nothing but fucking puppets, jumping for whatever asshole entity that wants to pillage us some more. Face it, the rich here can see the ship is sinking and like rats they are abandoning ship. They wring every last dime they can out of us on the way out and down.

    It's looking like the Great Depression for many of our people. We're bailing water, not steaming ahead. These visas aren't a fix, they are a patch to stop the air leaking from our tires so we can get to the gas station, which is closed. Do you think it's going to get better? The babyboome

Marvelous! The super-user's going to boot me! What a finely tuned response to the situation!