



Spokeo Fined $800K By FTC For Marketing Its Services To Employers 81
nonprofiteer writes "Spokeo was one of the first public-facing person-profiling companies to attract the ire of those profiled. Taglined 'not your grandmother's phonebook,' it offers up profiles pulled from public records, social networking sites, etc, including your address, worth of your home, who's in your family, your estimated wealth, your hobbies and interests, and more. People freaked out when they first discovered it. Apparently, the company was selling reports to employers, but not following principles set forth by the Fair Credit Reporting Act. The Federal Trade Commission is fining them $800,000. FTC also chastises them for writing fake positive reviews around the Web."
Re:I am safe. (Score:5, Insightful)
I typed in my own name. They had nothing on me. They found a few other people of the same name, but they were clearly not me.
In some circumstances that can be much much worse.
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Just make sure that those it has info on are better than you and you should be in the clear.
How exactly do you make sure of that? It's not really something you have control over.
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Wow!... I'm only in my late 20's. Cool!
But will anyone believe it's not you (Score:2)
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Yeah, wasn't there a Japanese fellow who has been having all types of problems for years because he has the same name as a sex offender (or something equally bad)? I think /. ran a story on it about 2 months ago or so (sorry, can't find it).
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How did you get through so many Anonymous Cowards...so quickly?!
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Found me.
From 10 years ago. That's about the time I stopped using my real name on the internet.
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ow would that help? Pr0n has never nagged me, never harangued me, and never made me sleep on the couch.
Neither has my wife :P
Do not settle on the first girl you go out with, take a small samples before. If you are dumped, find-out why, then seduce a girl who tolerate, or even better when possible, like, that behavior.
When the sampling is done, find one that do not features the behaviours you disliked and seduce her.
That is simultaneously, the most logical and coherent and the most utterly useless advice I've ever seen. Unfortunately relationships are never logical nor coherent, thus it's just useless.
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Basically, I think what he's saying to say is try to find a girl that likes bondage, threesomes, and anal. He's just being coy about it.
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From 1997 to 2006, I lived on State Route 26. Spokeo lists me currently on "State Route, Unit 26" and their map is off by quite a few miles (right township though) and estimates the home value at 10 times what was paid for it in 1997 and at least 3-4 times what it's currently worth. It also thinks I'm a political donor (I'm not), likes shopping (I don't), and am Catholic (insulting). The only information correct is the first name of my brother and mother.
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I took a look at the website. From what I can tell, anything beyond partial phone number, possible street-level addresses and bogus value, possible relatives probably just to confirm the match... pretty much everything else is a sample of what a report would look like. The interests, for example, all have question marks. The random names I typed in have very similar interests to yours.
Unless you gave the bastards money?
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I decided to take a look at my name. My God, they mangled it to the ends of the earth. The addresses were wrong (right city, bizarrely wrong streets & #s), my mom was also my sister(?!?!?!), and depending on which address I clicked on, I had anywhere from 1 to 7(?) (I only have 4, if you include my wife) family members. My favorite was the 1 member, which was just me. What, am I the new Adam or something?
Quality service- sign me up! lol
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Re:I am safe. (Score:4, Informative)
They found me. They found the address I lived at for a few months, but not the one I've been at for a few years. My sister's name is right, but she's apparently 40 years older than she really is, and exists in five different places at once. My father's name is "Father", and my mother's name is "Mother". They're male and female, respectively.
I'm unimpressed.
Several years ago, I told a friend on IRC that I could track him down in real life. He didn't believe me. I went through our chat logs, found his first and last real names, and the city he lived in. I then used a plain old phone book (you know, like grandma has) to call his potential family members. I eventually got hold of his mother's catering company, and she passed on a greeting for me. My information, discovered through plain old communication, was more accurate than what this thing has.
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I have a fairly unique last name. There are only 2 distinct families with it in the entire US, and the other family has yet to use my first name for one of their sons. Therefore any search for my first and last name always comes up with me (discouting large lists of names where the first and last name don't actually appear together). Somehow this site has me living in 4 different states, and one of them i've never even visited. In one of the states where I
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There are currently only 6 living people in the US that have my last name. And just like you, Spokeo confused me with Santa Claus or something with how bad it messed everything up. Best part- I check the different addresses listed, and each one might have been a different person according to the details.
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and the other family has yet to use my first name for one of their sons.
I think a patent is in order
Or maybe I should register it as my trademark?
Who could it be? (Score:2)
According to this company that does "Background Checks", someone named "Anonymous Coward" lives in Redmond WA, on Microsoft Way...
http://www.spokeo.com/search?q=Anonymous+Coward&s2=t24#:3517900871 [spokeo.com]
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At least your mom is listed as "mom" and "sister", like mine did! (And no, I'm not from Kentucky)
Re:I am safe. (Score:5, Funny)
You're not the one from NY?
http://www.spokeo.com/search?q=Anonymous+Coward&s2=t24 [spokeo.com]
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Gah, sorry, I didn't notice your post when I first skimmed this thread!
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You're not the one from NY?
http://www.spokeo.com/search?q=Anonymous+Coward&s2=t24 [spokeo.com]
Interesting that the one in Washington State is located in... Redmond.
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Hrm, it says there are three Anonymous Cowards [spokeo.com], one each in New York, Pennsylvania, and Washington.
And none of those are you?
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Nice slap on the wrist... (Score:5, Insightful)
$800,000 and a "don't do that again, or at least don't get caught" is a slap on the wrist in this type of market.
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Yea, fines are always a slap on the wrist kind of deals. Very rarely will they ever seem to be of a size enough to make the company think twice.
Re:Nice slap on the wrist... (Score:5, Interesting)
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It would also mean a greater likelihood that Spokeo would take the case to court, and cause a lot more work and headaches for the investigators.
So? Investigating is what they get paid to do. They don't have to *enjoy* it.
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How is it even legal for employers to request that kind of information? It isn't in the UK.
Not enough (Score:2)
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Yea, often times they just budget fines like this into their operating expenses.
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So yeah, for Apple $800k is nothing. For many businesses $800k is a death sentence. I hope it is the latter for Spokeo, but it won't really matter as the torch will simply pass to the next scumbag in line.
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Spokeo is wildly inaccurate (Score:3)
I can't imagine anyone using spokeo for anything important, as their info is not even close to being correct. When I checked my profile a year or 2 ago (When you could see it all without paying), it had me living in a million dollar home (off by more than an order of magnitude), with a several hobbies which weren't even the slightest bit correct (knitting, and horses I think), and had someone the same age as my mother living in the house, despite the fact that she never lived there, had any mail delivered there, or anything. I don't remember the rest, but category after category I was reading it thinking "wow, I barely even know myself".
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and had someone the same age as my mother living in the house, despite the fact that she never lived there
Give Spokeo the credit that is due -- they do know about that woman you have chained up in your basement.
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Of course the people who paid for the data believe it. They paid good money for it, which is a powerful mechanism for making people want to believe what they read, particular when it is presented as being factual.
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it had me living in a million dollar home (off by more than an order of magnitude)
Oh I see how it is, mister fancy-pants $10M+ home.
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Well, going around calling yourself 'Lord' is going to lead to errors like this.
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Yeah, and I don't have the faintest idea where they get these numbers from (other than from their ass). I checked again now and my formerly million dollar home is now worth $44k, which is much closer, but now about 30-40% too low. But the numbers don't even make any sense. They don't come from the state assessed values. And they don't come from any of the automated appraisal sources like zillow, bank of america, epraisal etc. They have my entire block of mostly identical houses all listed in the low to mid
Dup of yesterday's story (Score:1)
About invasive species hitching a ride on the wake of a tsunami [slashdot.org].
Well, in metaphorical terms, I guess. At least the dupes are getting more sophisticated.
It found me - Big Deal (Score:2)
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I didn't bother to go through the "removal" process. I hope it works for you. I did go back to the site and took a closer look and it has 6 entries for me from what I can tell - Some old stuff, some more recent stuff and what not. Different old phone numbers, addresses, etc. As to who uses it, mainly uninformed people who believe the information is correct, probably. To me it's been a game for a long time. For example - Four Facebook profiles, each with different information but very close to same name (I d
Privacy is dead (Score:2)
A company like this should be shut down. If someone voluntarily gives their data to a social networking site like Facebook, shouldn't that data remain private to Facebook? You opted on your own to give Facebook that data. So Facebook can store it as you want it. You didn't put your contact information on FB so that Spokeo can poach that data and use it to sell your information.
Isn't that data technically property of Facebook/Myspace/etc. anyways? Sure you can chose to give out your data elsewhere and anywhe
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You didn't put your contact information on FB so that Spokeo can poach that data and use it to sell your information.
If you ask Facebook, that's *exactly* why you put your information on Facebook. That's the only reason Facebook exists.
When did it become acceptable to post information about people without their permission?
Since the First Amendment.
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When did it become acceptable to post information about people without their permission?
When people started living together.
Seriously, these types of endeavours are analogous to the 18th century "town gossip". And by "these types", I include the credit reporting agencies. They were considered to be borderline rude busybodies then, and the characterization hasn't changed much. If they didn't have politicians in their pockets, there'd be a simple solution to their shenanigans. Simply require them to report to the target what they are reporting to the customer.
That gives me a chance to blow a
Anyone have a paid password to check myself out? (Score:2)
Because currently it costs money. Posting this story might drive people to buy their product, even.
Fined for what, exactly? (Score:3)
Apparently, the company was selling reports to employers, but not following principles set forth by the Fair Credit Reporting Act.
Call me cynical, but it sounds like their real crime was not being one of the Big Three credit agencies, probably do worse stuff, more often.
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Remove your profile (Score:3)
Looking at the site, there is a 'remove' option in the privacy link.
http://www.spokeo.com/privacy [spokeo.com]
I wonder if it actually removes you or if they just add your ip to the list of info. i.e. "Likes using Firefox"
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There used to be a service called eliyon (Score:2)
OK I am taking this from memory , but back around 2002 there used to be a website called , I think, Eliyon (don't take my memory as infallible here) which offered up profiles of people including, I distinctly remember, very personal stuff which could only be inferences about their characters, like, oh, the fact that they might be addicted to masturbation.
Apparently this would have been gleaned, I really have no idea, from information from porn websites or chat room logs, in some sort of arrangement
I'm pissed at them, and at AOL. (Score:2)
Okay. I've had Spokeo remove my data before, and assumed I'd be gone when I double checked today. Nope: they have/had multiple records for me, showing multiple addresses, and a lot of personal data. So I told them to remove the listings again. Let's see how long it lasts, this time.
Perhaps even worse, though, is that in each case they had an partial email account listed for me, ending in @aol.com. I haven't had AOL since the 80s, (QuantumLink, PC-Link, etc.) but I have had a couple of AOL IM accounts, and t