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The GoDaddy Saga Continues 203

Posted by timothy from the needs-more-illustrations dept.
First time accepted submitter wbr1 writes "Domain registrar Namecheap is accusing GoDaddy of violating ICANN rules and hindering domain owners from moving their domains to another registrar. They are allegedly doing this by submitting incomplete information to the new registrar, making it difficult to process the move." Adds user bs0d3: "Godaddy has responded to these allegations today and insist that their practice of rate limiting Whois queries is standard practice to combat Whois abuse. Furthermore, they accuse Namecheap of playing foul because they released a statement before ever contacting godaddy directly to resolve these issues."
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The GoDaddy Saga Continues More

The GoDaddy Saga Continues

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  • You don't get to be #1 (Score:4, Insightful)

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday December 27, 2011 @08:46AM (#38502176)

    by playing fair.

    • Re:You don't get to be #1 (Score:5, Interesting)

      by houstonbofh ( 602064 ) on Tuesday December 27, 2011 @10:03AM (#38502760)
      That is the truth. I had to consolidate registrars for a company. It was a challenge to get them all off GoDaddy. But it was a real battle to get them off NameCheap. For some I had to renew them with NameCheap before they would move them!

      Pot, let me introduce you to this kettle here. I think you may have a lot in common.

      • Re: (Score:2, Informative)

        by LifesABeach ( 234436 )
        GoDaddy's "throttling" of account information speaks volumes. Is GoDaddy's business model fundamentally corrupt? You have to love the irony.

      • Re: (Score:2, Insightful)

        by Anonymous Coward

        How close to expiration were they when you tried to transfer them? There are rules in place to prevent some activity on an almost expired domain (whois updates, etc.).

        • Between 2 weeks and nine months. Some of the short ones went quick, and some of one not due for almost a year were still hung up 6 months later.

      • Takes one to know one.

        Also, I doubt the pot calling the kettle black gives EITHER of them a free pass on actually being black.

      • I'm currently on GoDaddy and have felt rather dirty ever since I heard about their CEO, Bob Parsons, hunting an elephant [huffingtonpost.com]. I also hate their interface -- too cluttered and too much marketing/advertising/crap in there. I'd like to know a good, reputable, registrar that I could move to. Anyone have suggestions?

    • I thought they got to #1 by a two pronged method:
      1) Relatively cheap
      2) By being the most BRAWNDOTASTIC company around with bikini babes and their CEO riding around on a custom Orange County Chopper when he isn't hunting down elephants personally.

  • But of course they would (Score:5, Funny)

    by mihalisgr ( 2493310 ) on Tuesday December 27, 2011 @08:48AM (#38502188)
    If they create artificial means so that their customers would have trouble moving away from them, that would mean more customers, more publicity, a more tech-savvy image, robustness and.. Oh wait...

  • Namecheap is a good registrar (Score:4, Informative)

    by InterestingFella ( 2537066 ) on Tuesday December 27, 2011 @08:49AM (#38502196)
    I have used many registrars and Namecheap has always been the best one. Their interface is also super clean and efficient. Their prices are one of the most competitive ones, they offer free private registration, dns hosting and everything you need. And did I say their interface is super clean? You get everything done easily and quickly, without them trying to shove extra services as premium prices down to you. If you have ever tried to register domain with GoDaddy you know what I'm talking about - the whole registration process itself is pain in the ass and you need to keep unticking all those extra services they try to offer you.

    With my years of experience and managing over hundred domains, I can only recommend Namecheap.

    • Re:Namecheap is a good registrar (Score:5, Informative)

      by houstonbofh ( 602064 ) on Tuesday December 27, 2011 @10:10AM (#38502822)
      I used them too, and was very happy right up to when I tried to move the domains off. Why the move? Consolidation, but mainly because the foreign domain proxy office service could not be removed when we finally opened and office in that country. (Kinda expensive for some countries...) Then I found the problems. The are not actually the registrar for many of the foreign country domains, and they have some real problems moving your domains away. In some cases, I had to renew for another year, with another full year of the proxy office which I no longer needed, just to get my domain back. I got to know all the techs, since they only have a handful. Nice guys, but powerless in this case. Much more pleased with SafeNames. More expensive, but for a reason.

    • Re:Namecheap is a good registrar (Score:5, Informative)

      by jez9999 ( 618189 ) on Tuesday December 27, 2011 @11:16AM (#38503536) Homepage Journal

      Just to add another testimonial: I use Namecheap for my 20-odd domains and they have been fine; easy administration, prompting me when I needed to renew them, decent prices, decent customer service.

      I haven't tried to move any domains away from Namecheap, so I'm not sure whether they're a bit dodgy there; it'd be a shame if they are.

      Their strong anti-SOPA stance also gives them brownie points in my view.

    • You get everything done easily and quickly, without them trying to shove extra services as premium prices down to you.

      I just tried transferring one domain to see what they hype was about, and I have to agree.

      My current registrar used to fit this description but in the past couple years they've added so much upsell to the site that they're losing me as a volume customer.

      I have to wade through all their stuff about how they're "very excited" about their social media efforts, and besides all the un-checking of

  • WhoreDaddy (Score:5, Informative)

    by unity100 ( 970058 ) on Tuesday December 27, 2011 @08:51AM (#38502208) Homepage Journal
    As whory as a whore can be. With all due respect and reference to the whores.

    That is not something new godaddy started doing just recently. They had the habit of pulling such shit for close to a decade now. the only provider that is FAR worse, is 1&1 in all its incarnations. I had to bail out numerous clients out of their hands - both godaddy and 1&1. some, i wasnt able to bail out, and these were generally those with 1&1.

    The array of problems they cause ? it ranges from what you read here, to locking your domain down, preventing you from paying for renewal and sending you to collections over $9-10 a year. Just google it.

    • Re:WhoreDaddy (Score:5, Funny)

      by InterestingFella ( 2537066 ) on Tuesday December 27, 2011 @08:55AM (#38502228)
      Please, don't compare GoDaddy to prostitutes. At least the services prostitutes offer are honest.

    • Re:WhoreDaddy (Score:5, Informative)

      by 1s44c ( 552956 ) on Tuesday December 27, 2011 @09:16AM (#38502362)

      That is not something new godaddy started doing just recently. They had the habit of pulling such shit for close to a decade now. the only provider that is FAR worse, is 1&1 in all its incarnations. I had to bail out numerous clients out of their hands - both godaddy and 1&1. some, i wasnt able to bail out, and these were generally those with 1&1.

      I once registered a domain with 1&1. Never again. Everyone should be warned to never go near those scumbags.

      • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

        by se7en11 ( 833841 )
        Just to throw another opinion into the mix. I've used 1&1 for over 6 years now and have had very little issues. We currently have 4 dedicated servers and around 30 domain names registered with them. They are a big company and you don't really get that personal touch when you call support but we've been happy with them.
        • wait until you chance up against one serious issue. or even, try to cancel/move out your stuff.
          • Agreed - I thought 1&1 was fine, although overpriced (they gradually jacked up the price as time went on, presumably thinking it'd be too big a hassle for me to leave at that point). The problem was they decided I still owed them money after I had cancelled. Not only did they not inform me of this bogus charge, they sent it to a collection agency so I had to find out on my credit report. 1&1 - I give you money, you give me service. I stop, you stop. End of transaction. Please do not give these

    • the only provider that is FAR worse, is 1&1

      I know this is just one person's opinion, but I've been using 1&1 for years and I've been very happy with them. I have about 20 domains there and never had a single problem.

    • I personally had to deal with both companies....1&1 in particular was UGH with that interface.... plus I had to deal with the whole RegisterFly fiasco a few years ago. ICANN'T still hasn't gotten their act together. The whole domain industry is filled with shady characters. Web hosting is too, but at least you have the option to roll your own server if needed.

  • Who to believe? (Score:4, Interesting)

    by SJHillman ( 1966756 ) on Tuesday December 27, 2011 @08:56AM (#38502238)

    I've heard a lot of great things about Namecheap from customers and third party reviewers. I'm considering moving one of my domains there to give them a try.

    I've heard a lot of bad things about GoDaddy from customers and third party reviewers. I'd never consider giving them business - however, I do use them to find if a domain I want is already registered because their domain search is faster than a lot of other sites. I also used to work for a company that purchased SSL certificates from GoDaddy. Using their website is not fun and their customer service less so.

    All things considered, I'd have to believe Namecheap over GoDaddy, regardless of how hot Danica Patrick is.

    • Re:Who to believe? (Score:5, Funny)

      by vlm ( 69642 ) on Tuesday December 27, 2011 @09:23AM (#38502408)

      All things considered, I'd have to believe Namecheap over GoDaddy, regardless of how hot Danica Patrick is.

      Yeah regarding her, that is just weird. In the specific area that godaddy operates in, that being wanna be models who also have a promotional accessory line of domain registration, are there any other hotties out there with a DNS registrar as a marketing gimmic who I could transfer my domains to? I think having her own domain registrar is much trendier than the traditional model accessory line of clothes and perfumes and small dogs in purses and adopted foreign babies and such. The netsol CEO guy just isn't doing it for me, I'm sure he's a nice guy but I'm looking for someone more, uh, female. I'm pretty close to posting a personals ad in the local newspaper "distinguished older engineer seeks hottie for domain registration services, please send pix of router and/or firewall".

    • Re:Who to believe? (Score:5, Informative)

      by Lumpy ( 12016 ) on Tuesday December 27, 2011 @10:02AM (#38502744) Homepage

      That is not a safe thing to do. Godaddy will register a domain you search for if you let it sit 24 hours. At least that is what I observed the lst time I went domain name speculating for a customer.

      We searched on GoDaddy for 5 different domain names, the customer dragged his feet for 2 days and when we came back to register, ALL of them were registered and were available for "purchase" at their auction site.

  • Sorry to bs03d (Score:4, Interesting)

    by wbr1 ( 2538558 ) on Tuesday December 27, 2011 @08:58AM (#38502250)
    When submitted this I had not looked at recent submissions and bs03d had submitted a story on the same subject, using the same title! [slashdot.org] I voted his up, but for some reason mine was accepted with additions from him.

    But yeah! I got my first accepted submission on my first try. (Sarcastic self-congratulatory pack pat ensues).

    I thought this was interesting for many reasons, but I can attest that incomplete information can hinder things very much. I have never worked directly with name registrations, but I used to process DNS records about 13 years ago, and it was painful when I would get an incomplete request.

  • Not the first time (Score:3)

    by assertation ( 1255714 ) on Tuesday December 27, 2011 @08:59AM (#38502252)

    I seem to have a vague memory of there being another mass exodus from godaddy a few years ago. Does anyone remember what the issue was?

    • Re:Not the first time (Score:5, Informative)

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday December 27, 2011 @09:06AM (#38502300)

      People left after the CEO posted a video of him killing an elephant maybe a year or so back, not sure if that's what you're talking about.

      • That does sound familiar. Thanks.

      • So, did he kill it by bunga-bunga?

  • Let me put it straight: (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Kagetsuki ( 1620613 ) on Tuesday December 27, 2011 @09:00AM (#38502256)

    "Dear GoDaddy. You openly supported something that revokes our rights and would give you more power to abuse us with while others in your position openly opposed it. Fuck you. Die."

    No tears from us. Go Namecheap!

  • Shooting yourself in the foot isn't good enough... (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Tridus ( 79566 ) on Tuesday December 27, 2011 @09:02AM (#38502272) Homepage

    So now they've broken out a bazooka.

    Seriously, they piss their customers off with their handling of SOPA. After that, their plan is... technical incompetence? Mishandling of accounts? Their lousy customer service is now in the spotlight because of this, and it's going to make their problems even worse because people remember a reputation for bad service long after they've forgotten all about SOPA.

    You can't fix that with more ads from a second rate race car driver.

    • >Their lousy customer service is now in the spotlight because of this, and it's going to make their problems even worse because people remember a reputation for bad service long after they've forgotten all about SOPA.

      Sorry to tell you there are enough idiots out there that want to save $.50 on a domain name to keep GoDaddy afloat long enough for the rest and new comers to forget what GoDaddy did/does.

  • 16 Domains. (Score:5, Interesting)

    by andydread ( 758754 ) on Tuesday December 27, 2011 @09:13AM (#38502342)
    Didn't plan on doing all this extra work during Christmas holidays. I just migrated 16 domains from GoDaddy to NameCheap. Wow I wish I knew they existed before hand. The interface is clean. NO endless checkboxes to uncheck. Thank you GoDaddy for introducing me to NameCheap. I am now GoDaddy-free and it feels really good. use SOPAsucks to get a discount. awesome.

    • Re:16 Domains. (Score:5, Informative)

      by Howard Beale ( 92386 ) on Tuesday December 27, 2011 @10:11AM (#38502852)
      Unfortunately, the SOPAsucks code has reached its maximum allowance. Here are some more discount codes (ripped from their blog): Get reduced price registrations and transfers on com/net/org/biz domains using coupon code XMASJOY. Enjoy 10% off your first month of shared/reseller/business hosting using coupon code SNOWTIME and 10% off first month VPS hosting using code XVPS.

  • Interesting (Score:3, Interesting)

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday December 27, 2011 @09:14AM (#38502348)

    I'd never heard of Namecheep before this debacle and I found it curious how there were so very many references to it on Slashdot and the other new site forums. It was so dominant that my cynical side was wondering if it wasn't an astroturfing campaign.

    Now we have these accusations. Frankly, at first blush, it sounds like dramatization on the part of Namecheep and standard incompetence excuses from GoDaddy. But, I also notice that only Namecheep is complaining. I don't see the same complaints from Network Solutions or Register et al, so I'm again wondering if this is some form of astroturfing because I am positive that GoDaddy has not targeting Namecheep exclusively.

    • Re:Interesting (Score:5, Insightful)

      by vlm ( 69642 ) on Tuesday December 27, 2011 @09:36AM (#38502506)

      I did some research and astroturfing seems unlikely in this individual situation.

      First of all there's not dozens of "pro-namecheep" fanboy posts. There's like three. So I clicked on them to check out their posting history

      InterestingFella (2537066) seems "real"
      SJHillman (1966756) seems "real"
      andydread (758754) seems "real"

      It seems likely to me that namecheep does in fact rock.

      Its kind of like whenever we talk about simple web hosting and ipv6, like fifty people come out of the woodwork to say he.net rocks. Or whenever we talk about colo virtual servers, again, like fifty people come out of the woodwork to say linode.com rocks. Based on personal experience as customer, its not a conspiracy or advertising, its simply that they're absolute best of breed and they do in fact rock. So I would be inclined to believe the /. groupthink and tend to think this namecheep place does in fact rock in the world of DNS service.

      What I don't get, is that "gandi" or whatever place in like France or someplace used to get all the /. mindshare as being the "best". What happened to them? I recall it was "hard" to use if you lived in the USA, something about sending them money, but thats all I remember about ghandi or gandi or whatever they were.

      • Re: (Score:3)

        by Sloppy ( 14984 )

        I still use Gandi and I live in USA.

        The only "hard" thing about them is that every single year when I pay them, it triggers VISA fraud alert (i.e. VISA calls me and wants me to confirm it was a legit charge) because they're not used to me buying a lot of stuff from Europe anymore.

        And that's really a VISA problem rather than a Gandi problem, and actually if you think about it, it's not a "problem" at all -- confirming rare exceptions is good. I just wish VISA would realize that this yearly charge is like c

      • Just to confirm that, vlm (69642) seems "real".

        Now somedy just append another verification here, so we can continue running the byzantine generals problem.

      • Re: (Score:2)

        by kyrio ( 1091003 )
        People still suggest Gandi on here. I only just heard about them a couple of months ago from a suggestion in Slashdot comment.

      • What I don't get, is that "gandi" or whatever place in like France or someplace used to get all the /. mindshare as being the "best". What happened to them? I recall it was "hard" to use if you lived in the USA, something about sending them money, but thats all I remember about ghandi or gandi or whatever they were.

        I tried them out a few months ago based on prior Slashdot cred. The bank did wonder about a charge to France, but that didn't bother me too much.

        What bothered me first was that I didn't get any

    • If it's astroturfing, then probably the first astroturfing campaign to have a positive effect. It's better to give your money to an astroturfer than to GoDaddy. So I'm all for an astroturfing campaign that encourages an even greater exodus from GoDaddy.

      Regardless, I think you've just got your tin-foil hat on a bit tight. I've heard of Namecheap. Funny anecdote: I never used them b/c they have the word 'cheap' in their name and I tend to avoid things with that word. As an old retail boss of mine would always

    • Namecheap appeared to be the most commonly-recommended registrar in threads on switching. (To the point that a guide was written using it as the 'switch-to'.) It's possible that they are getting a large percentage of the people switching.

    • It's not just Namecheap. I transferred a dozen names this weekend to a (non-Namecheap) registrar and the whois info is now in limbo. i.e. whois is still showing Godaddy info even after receiving "your domain transfer is complete" messages from the gaining registrar.

      Note that I've done transfers from GD numerous times in the past decade (exactly the same way) and they've always cleared immediately. This time it's definitely different.

    • Namecheap may not be astroturfing, but they are putting out the word/cause.

      I can't say if it is for business reasons or if they are drinking from the same water cooler as the rest of the anti-SOPA crowd. Namecheap might be one of the few GoDaddy is targeting as Namecheap is proclaiming that you should transfer not only to be against SOPA but to save endangered wildlife from GoDaddy.

      http://community.namecheap.com/blog/2011/03/30/elephants/ [namecheap.com]

      N.C. has painted a target on themselves.

    • Re: (Score:2)

      by kyrio ( 1091003 )
      You haven't heard of Namecheap because, a) you are in fact trying to do damage control, b) the television makes every decision in your life, c) you are incompetent, or d) you don't actually deal with domains and so you have no knowledge of anything other than (b).

      Though I use a different registrar, Namecheap is one of the most recommended registrars out there. It's a very well known name in the industry. The only reason I didn't choose them in the end is that another registrar was better suited to myself

  • Icann rules and whois (Score:4, Interesting)

    by pinfall ( 2430412 ) on Tuesday December 27, 2011 @09:24AM (#38502416)
    Godaddy limits whois queries as is their limited right to do so. However, the ability to meter queries does not apply to the transfer of domains which must be a transparent process. The problem is that Godaddy can easily transfer bulk transfer out requests but they are getting stuck by their stupid registrant query limit.

    The fact that Icann let them get away with this bs for so long is ineptitude. Remove this dumbass query limit and all is well.

  • Anyone want to take bets on how long it will be until Danica's driving another car? Namecheap should offer to sponsor her.

  • "their practice of rate limiting Whois queries is Whois abuse".

    There, more honest.

  • Shitty business practices (Score:5, Interesting)

    by LoudNoiseElitist ( 1016584 ) on Tuesday December 27, 2011 @09:56AM (#38502666)

    I moved to Namecheap a few months ago after becoming sick and tired of GoDaddy's shitty business practices. I decided to move to Namecheap shortly before my registrations with GoDaddy expired.

    Before allowing me to transfer my domains, I was informed that I had to update my Whois info to make sure that it was accurate. There was no way to *not* do this. I could not begin the transfer process until this was done. I had done it a few months prior when ICANN requires yearly updates. This was something new.

    Upon being forced to update my information (none of which was actually changed), my domains were forced into "locked" status, and thus prevented from being transferred for *two* months. Despite the fact that ICANN has released numerous statements saying that this behavior is not allowed, GoDaddy enforced this policy, despite me calling and talking to ten or fifteen different individuals.

    I eventually had to renew each domain with GoDaddy, wait the two months, and then attempt the transfer to Namecheap again.

    GoDaddy is a shit company, and I sincerely hope that an elephant tramples Bob Parsons.

  • GoDaddy is blocking my domain transfer (Score:2, Informative)

    by Anonymous Coward

    For anyone who doesn't believe GoDaddy is now just explicitly blocking transfers - I've tried for two days now to move a single GoDaddy domain I have (that I bought through Google) to EasyDNS and GoDaddy is just blocking the transfer (see message below). I don't know if I'm more upset with GoDaddy or Google at this point (who continues to resell GoDaddy and provides no help here). Note that the (obscured) link to GoDaddy for support below points to a page with a PIN, with no information on where the PIN is

  • Business with GoDaddy (Score:3, Informative)

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday December 27, 2011 @11:38AM (#38503808)
    We were using GoDaddy to host some of our corporate servers. Due to their stubbornness and inflexibility on small points we ended up losing a lot of important business email. When I tried to go up the chain of command to get the issue addressed they flatly refused to allow me to talk to anyone higher up. I made many efforts to go around them to no avail. We ended up dropping use of them. We will never do business with that company!

  • Data point from the last 24 hours (Score:3)

    by thatseattleguy ( 897282 ) on Tuesday December 27, 2011 @12:01PM (#38504120) Homepage
    <disclosure>
    I think GoDaddy sucks large avian eggs on a variety of levels (morally and technically); I try hard to convince any client who comes to me with domains or hosting there to switch to something else - anything else. (I usually recommend Pairnic.com as a registrar and Pair.com for hosting, but other great options exist.)
    </disclosure>

    That said, I transferred a client's domain from GoDaddy just last night (to Pairnic) and the process was exceedingly quick and smooth. Since GoDaddy allows you to log in an "approve" a transfer in process, the whole thing was done in 20 minutes from start to finish. Never had one go that fast, so I have to give credit to GoDaddy where it's due here. At least in this case, they were not putting up any roadblocks.

    But yes, I'm glad to be almost completely rid of them. Even if Danica is smokin' hot.

    • Re: (Score:2)

      by jamesh ( 87723 )

      Same here, although I transferred my domain about 2 weeks before i'd heard anything about SOPA. The process was simple and trouble free.

      A competitor publishing statements to the effect that "GoDaddy is deliberately disrupting the domain transfer process" without hard proof is the sort of thing that gets a lawsuit pointed in their direction. A bunch of transfer requests with missing information is not "hard proof" in itself, you'd have to show deliberate intent. And there is precedent for companies who have

  • A pause from the Namecheap love fest (Score:5, Interesting)

    by Just Some Guy ( 3352 ) <kirk+slashdot@strauser.com> on Tuesday December 27, 2011 @12:43PM (#38504562) Homepage Journal

    I transferred an expiring domain to Namecheap last week for reasons unrelated to GoDaddy's asshattery, but I saw a blog post (that I can no longer find, alas) pointing out something in Namecheap's TOS [namecheap.com] that bothers the hell out of me. Specifically:

    You agree that Namecheap, in its sole discretion and without liability to you, may refuse to accept the registration of any domain name. Namecheap also may in its sole discretion and without liability to you delete the registration of any domain name during the first thirty (30) days after registration has taken place. Namecheap may also cancel the registration of a domain name, after thirty (30) days, if that name is being used, as determined by Namecheap in its sole discretion, in association with spam or morally objectionable activities (as well as any activities set forth in Section 4 above). Morally objectionable activities will include, but not be limited to 1) activities designed to defame, embarrass, harm, abuse, threaten, slander or harass third parties; 2) activities prohibited by the laws of the United States and/or foreign territories in which you conduct business; 3) activities designed to encourage unlawful behavior by others, such as hate crimes, terrorism and child pornography; 4) activities that are tortious, vulgar, obscene, invasive of the privacy of a third party, racially, ethnically, or otherwise objectionable; activities designed to impersonate the identity of a third party; 5) and activities designed to harm or use unethically minors in any way.

    Note the part about "Namecheap in its sole discretion" and imagine that the guy answering the "abuse@" email is having a bad day. Suppose I have a blog on a domain registered through them and I:

    1) Embarrass a local politician.
    2) Get AdSense revenue from a post saying that the Egyptian government sucks.
    3) Say I think it's OK for someone to smoke pot, even if it's illegal where they live.
    4) Say something that someone, somewhere, thinks is vulgar or obscene.
    5) Make fun of Justin Bieber.

    Namecheap could decide in its sole discretion that any of those is sufficient to delete my domain from the registry. Frankly, that's bullshit. I know that Namecheap is unlikely to do something so boneheaded, but I'm utterly against them having the right to yank me off the Internet just because they don't like what I've said. And although I'm talking here about Namecheap specifically, I recognize that a lot of other registrars have similar terms. Does anyone use a more freedom-respecting registrar that they would recommend?

    • Following up to myself, the blog post I mentioned [zacwe.st] points out the nearly identical terms and conditions in GoDaddy's and Namecheap's contracts. Gandi has the same objectionable terms. I've written to NearlyFreeSpeech to ask for clarification of their policy but haven't heard back yet, and it looks like Hover specifically avoids any "morality clauses".

      • Re: (Score:2)

        by lgw ( 121541 )

        All that really says is "if your web page is likely to get us sued, or otherwise in legal trouble, find a different host." I don't see a problem with that - you can't expect otherwise from a hosting company; why would they eat the expese of a legal mess caused by a customer?

        • But it's not for web hosting - it's for domain registration. In what conceivable world could a domain's content cause legal trouble for a pre-SOPA American registrar?

        • why would they eat the expese of a legal mess caused by a customer?

          So customers engaging in controversial speech patronize them?

          At least in theory - it sounds like a losing business model given the current state of the US legal system.

    • Re: (Score:2)

      by kyrio ( 1091003 )
      Sounds like generic terms that won't actually be used by a good registrar for anything other than domains used for illegal purposes. Domains used for child pornography sites, for example.

      • But there are already laws that kick in there, hence the phrase "illegal purposes". If their terms of service said something like "we can delete your domain if ordered by a court of law", then I'd have no problem with it at all. Instead, they open the floodgates for deleting domains for any reason they feel like.

      • Re: (Score:2)

        by jamesh ( 87723 )

        Sounds like generic terms that won't actually be used by a good registrar for anything other than domains used for illegal purposes. Domains used for child pornography sites, for example.

        I don't buy that. I want a registrar that will only delete a domain when ordered to do so by a court. That "sole discretion" clause sounds like a bad idea.

  • playing foul because they released a statement before ever contacting godaddy directly to resolve these issues

    Oh, but conspiring with the media mafia and bought congressmen to censor the internet for profit. That's playing fair?

    I hope they go bankrupt before 2012.

  • Furthermore, they accuse Namecheap of playing foul because they released a statement before ever contacting godaddy directly to resolve these issues.

    Funny, when I put up my anti-GoDaddy site, they tried to have my server shut down (along with all my other sites) and, when that failed (my provider told them to pound sand), tried to have my domain pulled due to incomplete or incorrect contact information. When my registrar notified me (via the admin email on that domain) I informed them that they are more than welcome to write me at the address on file and/or call me at the number on file.

    Namecheap is using GoDaddy's tactics, here, and GoDaddy can't take

  • That's why I don't trust this industry. "GoDaddy", can it be more porn? And "Namecheap", say no more!

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